Will Sarah Palin withdraw from the ticket before the election?

Sorry, just don't see it happening. I think she'll be deadweight on this ticket once she begins answering questions and it's obvious she isn't ready. But the only thing worse than making a shitty pick is admitting it. She's staying on, and going down with this sinking ship.

A rare opportunity to comment on Mr. Sullivan?

No way McCain drops Palin. He has committed to the Rove 'Base + 1' strategy lock, stock, and barrel. You think there would have been outrage following a Ridge/Lieberman pick, imagine the outrage of the GOP base having been introduced to a woman they see as their next Reagan only to have her taken away by a candidate about whom they were never enthused in the first place. McCain has cast his lot with Palin. Now, only time will tell whether he can effectively convince undecided voters that he is a reformer despite essentially clutching the Bush mantle.

Great idea for a survey, but when I refreshed it to see how many more people had voted it made me vote again to see. You might need to figure out a way to make it so people cant vote multiple times.

No way. She doesn't deserve the gig, but to drop her is suicide. And Obama-fans and Obamacons should want her on this ticket, if nothing else than to send a message home and destroy the future of that wing of the party in one blow.

Won't happen. Worst Case the GOP gets to run a martyr to the MSM in 2012 from Caribou Baribie to Jean D'arc in one election cycle.

Shouldn't the question have included another option, like will she resign after the election?

I don't think he will drop her. However, if the troopergate report is fast-tracked as reported and it is damaging, if the story around the complaint about her illegally viewing Wooten's files has legs and if reports of the affair turn out to be true (the emergency motion is not pretty and very suspicious considering Richter was her ex-boyfriend) then all bets are off.

I love Andrew Sullivan, but he's kind of losing it over this. He's vastly overestimating the level of problems she's having right now. I find Sarah Palin to be an idiot, but Sully is way off on this one.

The Republicans and Palin are too tone deaf - and have committed themselves too far - to withdraw her now. If she has had an affair their echo chamber will explain that it happens in all families. They and their undereducated, overachieving, meanspirited, sarcastic chick will lose the middle, and then lose the election. Their only hope is to keep her from talking to anyone who might ask her a real question between now and election day. We have to begin a drumbeat - how about a countdown of the number of days before she submits to any real questioning?

The chances of withdrawal are miniscule now. Such a withdrawal would effectively end McCain's campaign, as it would be an admission of his profoundly poor judgment. utter wrecklessness, and, thus, total unsuitability for the job of presidennt. The McCain camp is committed to its Bunker mentality: hide her away, blame the media, and hope all the other dirt comes out the day after the election.

Just yesterday, I thought you should place a poll. Funny how great minds think alike. Only my poll idea was different. The question you should really be asking your readers is: "Has Andrew Sullivan absolutely lost his mind and is now totally consumed with Palin Derangement Syndrome?" or perhaps... "In comparison, does Andrew Sullivan make the DailyKos look like reasoned, unbiased, fair and balanced blogging?" or perhaps... "Has Andrew Sullivan become absolutely unhinged by Sarah Palin?" or even... "Which is more offensive, the hatred with with Sullivan uses the term "Christianist?" or the N-Word to African Americans?"

Come on, we all know the rules. Never admit a mistake, no matter how obvious, now matter how egregious. WMDs are there, we just haven't found them yet. Muhammad Atta really did meet with the Baath party. Unless there is proof of Palin committing a sin so unforgivable that even the Rovians can't blame it on the media, she's here for the long haul.

The GOP is not the Democratic party. There is too much pressure to stay on the party line to boot her from the ticket. What will happen however, you will see a massive fissure within the republican party. The Christianists and Libertarians will have a very obvious split with this. McCain is a very neutral figure at this point, but Palin is exactly what the evangelical base wants. The most likely scenario is that the Republican party will be crippled for at least a decade while the Democrats enjoy their new coalition which includes the businessmen, Latinos, and libertarians that the GOP used to rely on to put them over the top. I think it's a distinct possibility, though, that this is the chance the Libertarian party needs to make itself relevant and send the Republicans to being nothing more than a religious party only relevant in the south. The Libertarians will have to at least take an apathetic stance on pot to get elected (I know... it makes me sad, too) but have a possibility to bring back a truly intelligent and conservative government within a decade.

I can't see her dropping out. The campaign hasn't shown any problem lying about, or flat out avoiding, the skeleton day pride parade coming out of her closet. closet. I don't see them stopping any time soon unless something crazy happens, like an arrest.

Gosh, I hope not. She's doing a fine job screwing the Republicans by herself. If they put someone new on the ticket, s/he might actually prove to be competent and make the Obama campaign really work for the votes they need.

McCain has given up any hope of attracting Hillary supporting dems and moderate Independents, what he has left is a highly engergized base entirely due to the Palin nomination... Removing her and admitting his first executive decision was an outrageous display of misjudgment will alienate the delusional base and drive anyone else who is paying attention away... He, through actions only his own, has placed himself in a cell as difficult to escape from as the one he found himself in in Hanoi...

Can we say October Surprise? The Alaska (Republican led) Legislature is going to issue its report in October. My money is that it finds Palin complicit in a scheme to abuse the office of Governor by illegally accessing confidential personal records; improperly attempting to influence, and ultimately fire a government official in order to pursue a personal vendetta against a former in-law. This will then be turned over to the state personnel board for sanctioning her. McCain, desperately ambitious for the office of POTUS will jetison her; claim she and others lied to him and others; and pick Romney/Huckabee/Guiliani for VP. For those who don't see this happening, compare my proposed scenario to the Keating 5 scandal when McCain threw everyone under the 'Straight-Talk Express'

The only reason Palin would withdraw at this point is if she were indicted --- but it sounds like her lawyers are doing everything they can to make sure that the Troopergate scandal doesn't get any traction before Election Day. Other than that, I agree with the commenters who've said that Sullivan is overestimating the level of problems she's having. Frankly, I haven't really seen anything take hold in the public consciousness --- it's almost as if there are so many loose ends, the media and the public don't know which to grab onto. But, like some other commenters, this could be a boon for the Democrats: It seems to me they would almost rather have Palin on the ticket, so that the McCain campaign is plagued by whispers of scandals while the Obama campaign looks polished, professional, and most importantly, scandal-free by comparison.

nah, it ain't gonna happen. i don't even think she'll be all that tripped up during interviews or debates. i'm an obama fan. i don't like her positions and i don't like what it means for the country if mccain wins, but i have to believe that if she was incompetent or unable to be a quick study, she would not have won her last few elections/primaries.

Dan Quayle never dropped out nor did he quit after the election. 'Nuff said.

Oh god, I hope not. It's just too much fun having her around.

Nah, she won't withdraw. That would be a bigger scandal than anything relating to Troopergate or her personal life. Besides, the super conservative base (with characters like Bill O'Reilly, Laura Ingraham and the repugnant Michelle Malkin) will defend her against anything for the sole reasons that she's pro-life and anti-gay.

Oh, the cluelessness of the smartypantsers. Every intelligent journalist who hasn't sold his soul is baffled, and yet Sarah Palin remains an IMMENSELY popular person. Look at the polls. When is everyone going to finally acknowledge that millions of Americans simply don't vote on issues? ALL POLITICS IS IDENTITY POLITICS. Are you aware of George W. Bush? Do you wonder why you spend every November 8th scratching your head and pondering Canada? Grow up. Sarah Palin's constituency votes entirely according to who they can relate to, and they are never going to relate to Barack Obama (or John McCain, for that matter). You cannot wish her away any more than you can wish away the largest solid chunk of the American electorate. The only thing that could possibly bring her down is if she is proven to be someone other than she claims to be, and her key demographic stops relating to her. That will not happen as the result of Troopergate, debates, or anything else on the horizon, with the very remote exception of an extramarital affair. Stop pretending the GOP base likes to think - they have provided no evidence of that in the past 8 years. And that's not even a partisan comment - the GOP base I'm referring to used to be the Democratic base. They have been there since the founding of the country and they aren't going anywhere, ever. So neither is Sarah Palin.

No. What's the point now? She solidifies the base, and if they keep her away from the press, limit her public appearances to the carefully staged ones, and drill her on everything Gwen Ifill is likely to ask her in the debate, she does no harm. Expectations are low on the debate, so if she doesn't make some awful gaffe, she'll get praised for even a mediocre performance. Biden can't be too tough on her or he'll get dinged as sexist. Sure, the trooper investigation and the affair rumors could hurt, but if the evidence doesn't get buried by the GOP, the undecideds -- why is anyone undecided now? -- probably aren't paying attention to them anyway. The election all comes down to McCain's ability to undermine confidence in Obama's ability to lead, not on McCain's demonstrable lack of core values or his scary impulsiveness.

For the commenter above who said that the troopergate scandal will be held at bay until after the election: French stated today that he will "fast-track" the investigation and release the report 3 weeks early with or without her deposition testimony. He also seemed to indicate to ABC news that the report WILL be damaging to her. I don't think she will be Governor very long much less VP.

I think it depends on the polling, so its too hard to tell where this will turn. There seems to be a drumbeat for war with Russia developing while no one is paying attention, so we could really have an October surprise. For some reason in the ABC Report Andrew had posted Sarah Palin reminded me of Alphonse D'Amato. Not so much the accent or looks but the comportment. I can do whatever I want and you can't stop me....

I voted "no". Something really, really shocking and dramatic has to happen for her to withdraw now. McCain and the GOP - the "base" in particular - are too deeply committed to: (a) the iconography of "Sarah" as some sort of weirdly obscure symbol of something, and (b) the whole sweeping. paranoic narrative that she is being hectored and victimized by a vicious, biased, misogynistic, left-wing media appartus. Mere ignorance about policy, mere inexperience, mere ineptitude as a debate or press conference performer - none of these deficiencies will be anywhere near enough to result in her stepping aside. They have gone "all in" at this point, holding little more than a low pair.

While a good short-term move from McCain (she takes the focus off of him, off of Bush, off of the fact that Repubs are white rich dudes in general), I'm convinced that in approximately 2 years no one will remember Sarah Palin. After they lose, her name will fade, eventually only eliciting those "Oh yeah, I think I remember her..." conversations. I'd be surprised if she'll even be reelected Governor after the horrific scrutiny and lousy press she's brought to her home state.

She won't quit. The Republicans always double-down after Nixon. Quitting is very 1970s. It'll screw them, but she won't quit.

No. McCain will use her and "the base" through Nov. 4th, but THEN something will come to light that forces her to withdraw, and John will call on his friend Joe to be VP, in the spirit of bi-partisanship and coming together). McCain gets exactly what he wanted all along! Sure, it will piss off the base, but he's only going to serve one term anyway - who cares?

If you admit your mistakes, then the terrorists win!

Sullivan is just trying to raise the idea in order to keep the out-of-control narrative going ("People are now talking about dropping Palin from the ticket! People like me!"). No way will they ever drop Palin. Haven't we learned anything about Republicans? They double down when they're losing. This pick has a disasterous downside, but so far it's been good for McCain. They'll probably be able to stop all the investigations and solid revelations until they're all moot. Take a look at positive/ negative numbers on Palin. She's very popular--moreso than Obama. The McCain people know that will go down, but they've already got a base that will only get more and more energized as the dirty laundry gets aired. The most the McCain people will do is what they're already doing--that is, hiding Palin somewhere in the Yukon and in right-wing venues until the election, only bringing her out for the debate, where she'll repeat memorized talking points over and over, minimizing any damage. The fact that she's being hidden proves that they've got a totally unprepared candidate. They don't care.

Nope, and the anti-media/everything-is-a-smear mode confirms it.

I think that Gov. Palin will withdraw before the election. 1. Troopergate info will come out sooner than we thought. 2. Information on her husband will start trickling out. 3. The brouhaha surrounding the pick will calm down, her son will be deployed, she'll clean her house, pack her bags, and eventually will be on the campaign trail on her own. 4. At some point, she will have to appear on one of the Sunday morning news shows. 5. THE DEBATE. Remember, Gwen Ifill is the moderator........ she will use family considerations, and the nasty media as her reasons for withdrawing. I'm usually wrong, and I hope this time I AM. I may be one of the few who thinks that she will actually contribute to Obama's victory. The Stepford Pick's chip is gonna malfunction at some point.

I don't think the Glacier Girl will drop out before the election, but if elected, she''ll "resign" after November 4 - then McBush can name someone else of his ilk to be his VP.

Christianist Republicans never admit their mistakes. Perhaps they confess them privately to God.

I'm not sure if you guys have been asleep for the past 2 decades, but trying to get a politician to admit they've done something wrong, especially a Republican, is hopeless. Like the pitbull she claims to be, she'll hold on till somebody beats her off with a stick. As a Canadian... I have no hope Americans will not once again step in a pile of poop (3 times is the charm). You guys are doomed unless every last one of you gets off your ass, and starts pounding the pavement. And don't go thinking you can just move up here and start screwing things up. This is your mess. Clean it up.

You can't see the Christianist conspiracy here? Everyone has come to realize Obama will lose this election. Therefore, the Pope, the late Jerry Falwell, and even certain imams in Tehran have manipulated the Rovian-inspired McCain to put a Christianist on the ticket so he can resign about a year into his first term and she can begin Armaggedon with the Islamic world. After Palin nukes Mecca and Medina, she will then implement the Final Solution for all gays, lesbians, and transgendered individuals. Tragically, her hair isn't so great, either. Did I mention Christianists and Rove? Sorry, I did. Also, Palin will go to Bush for advice on how to torture people. Always the sly devil, he will direct them to the Daily Dish and use mental waterboarding as his newest technique. Did I mention torture yet? Yes, sorry. Oh, and Palin will be revealed to have been involved with a lesbian who had a sex change and now officiates Mass. This will be revealed only after she is re-elected and has adopted her daughter's fourth out-of-wedlock baby. Oh, the humanity.

Andrew, You got to stop focusing on Palin. We need for Voters to think MaCain v Obama not Palin v Obama. Palin references should only exist in reference to McCain. Ex. McCain is pandering to Far Right. McCain's puts politics over country. The GOP want you to focus on Palin, because then you attack McCain less...and McCain sails in.

I think McCain camp's hysterical reaction to the media she's getting (which isn't nearly as bad as they think) is setting the table for McCain to dump her under the guise of "it's too hard on her family," thereby neatly blaming the evil media for dumping her rather than blaming McCain's BAD JUDGEMENT... Just a theory. I mean, why else are they more obsessed with the media coverage than the media? Methinks they doth protest too much.

You realize you are batshit crazy, right?

Wait, You guys actually think she's hurting things ? HA, There is an unpopular war and Bush's poll numbers are in the 20s and your only up what 2 points maybe. Dems are going to lose.

I voted that yes she would withdraw - but only because I couldn't vote: "Dear God, I'm begging You to PLEASE get her off this ticket." And yes, I'm a working mom (raised 5 - one of which is on an AFROTC scholarship), the family breadwinner, an Army veteran, and now a fervent Obama/Biden supporter - from South Carolina. However, if McCain had chosen Olympia Snow, Susan Collins, or Christy Todd Whitman, I might have been hard-pressed. Now, I'm just more convinced than ever that I will never be a Republican again. I love being an Independent.

In 1970 Sen. Hruska defended Carswell's mediocrity (Nixon's appointee to the Supreme Court): "Even if he is mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren't they, and a little chance?" Carswell was rejected. We don't need mediocrity in the Court was the consensus. If someone would only defend Palin based on her "just plain folks" appeal, then maybe, if intellectualism isn't completely dead, then maybe...

The level of misogyny on this site has reached an all time high. I'm sorry Andrew, for you used to be a thoughful journalist and commentator and now you're nothing more than a fawning synchophant for the uber-lightweight Obama. You're starting to remind me of David Brock.

A bump and a bruise here, but nothing so devastating as to require or demand Governor Palin's withdrawal. Think about how, when, and why Republicans resign from office. Either the pressure of the world is put upon them to quit from inside the Republican party (like Alberto Gonzalez or Mark Foley) or they get indicted outright (like Duke Cunningham and Bob Ney). What's the likelihood of either? Intrade.com says the odds are about 10-1. It's not going to matter because the race has 60 days to go and it's shaping up as a contest between Senator Obama versus "Nobama."

No. The election is less than two months away. As much as I would love to see her disappear, she and McCain are just too stubborn to change their minds. This was an emotional choice, and she will try everything to stay in. Palin and McCain will stick this out and go down in a blaze of glory as martyrs for the cause. BTW, Andrew, two different versions of this question have been on Predictify.com at least since Sunday.

She's staying on the ticket. The Republican Party of the 21st Century is not one that admits its mistakes. And if you think the base was going to be pissed if McCain picked Lieberman? They like her more than they like him.

she would never withdraw. she's got skin as thick as a pitbull and only herself in mind.

Just admit you made an ass of yourself. You can give up trying to force the truly mediocre Biden off obama's crashing plane, too.

The question is will Biden lead the ticket for Obama? The reason you ask such a foolish question is now you are afraid of loosing. With all the fan fair about how great Obama is, and how poor Bush has been and how EVERYONE hates him, why is this election so darn close? Keep spinning - - -

Unless there is some really earth-shattering scandal ahead, there's no way she will withdraw (and you would need a scandal a little more substantial than the lame "Jews for Jesus" at Palin's Church "scandal" that Andrew has been trying to hype up). I'm not even certain if I will vote for her, but some of these attacks are really out there. Why isn't Andrew asking if Sen. Obama will withdraw? He has all of Gov. Palin's same weaknesses. Oh, I know why - he's a man and she's a frail woman. Andrew has either a fear-woman complex, or he thinks they are all fragile flowers. But that's definitely not Palin. I believe she loves a good fight. If anyone wants to see more critique of Sullivan here, this is a good place to start: http://www.shieldofachilles.net/2008/09/divorced-from-reality.html http://www.shieldofachilles.net/2008/09/this-time-its-daughter-slutty-teen.html

No, she will not withdraw. I don't think she is anything but a 50% politician, though. The republicans have been desperate for someone to take on their values - they found someone in this woman. I think her popularity only serves to underscore how much republicans actually dislike McCain. They never wanted him on the ticket - and most would admit they'd rather have her run for president. But for those who argue that Palin's experience is equal to or exceeds Barack Obama - you should note one fact. Since April 2007, Obama has participated in 25 debates on foreign and domestic policy. His opinions and judgement are well documented. We know nothing of Palin. The views we do know of her are almost exactly the same as President Bush. If I recall correctly, one of the arguments against Governor Bush was that he had no foreign policy experience. He wanted to be elected on his moral values. We know exactly how that turned out.

Andrew, sorry but this is a terribly muddy poll question. Better worded as "Do you think Palin SHOULD withdraw" or "Do you THINK she will withdraw". Maybe that was implied but it's not clear. The quantitative results are completely meaningless. The comments are a bit more interesting at least.

Because the Scott Allen Richter divorce papers will not become sealed, Sarah Palin's chances of staying on the ticket have just decreased. Not a sure thing but this can not be comforting for her and her allies. So, I vote yes.

This is too easy -- does Sullivan know we're being allowed to let down our hair without the pain of his nit comb?

no i don't think so, there's only one reason why people think she would and i think she's showing everyone how to take that situation, be a grown up about it and look after your offspring and their soon to be offspring

She is more qualified to be president than Obama. She has more executive experience, National Guard Experience, and has made more energy decisions that Obama and Biden combined.

I'm as little a fan of Palin as you are, Andrew. But I think the reason she won't be withdrawn from the ticket is that it would demonstrate precisely the argument you've already made, to my mind convincingly--that McCain made a disastrous judgment call. Taking her off the ticket, even if she pretended it was her own choice, would be a direct, unequivocal, and public admission of that fact. If McCain ever has to contemplate doing that, he will have already lost the election. With more time, he might be able to recover, but in two months? No way. PS: I love this blog, in the main postings and the fine little add ons (like 'view from your window' and 'Malkin Awards'). With around 16,000 voting in your first poll ever, all cast in less than 9 hours period, I suspect that feeling may be widely shared. At any rate: keep up the great, thought-provoking work!

sullivan needs to take more meds.............palin has him and the rest of you liberals spun up...........i guess your next step is making statements will be "i am selling my house and moving to a different country if mccain/palin win"

I think Sullivan underestimates how devastating this is to the Republicans. Sullivan polls us if Palin will have to withdraw from the ticket. I think the GOP should consider that the best case scenario! Sullivan floated the possibility that McCain himselgf may withdraw; I'm not sure it's too late for that to still be an option. Indeed, for showing such shocking poor judgement in selecting a VP candidate with an imperfect personal life, it seems like it would be wrong for the GOP to nominate anyone for president. It would probably be good for the congressional candidates to withdraw as well. Don't these people know that Gov. Palin has not yet submitted to Andrew Sullivan's perfectly reasonable demand to provide medical records to prove that she didn't fake a pregnancy and giving birth to a baby with Down's Syndrome? How can the Party even think about anything else? Forget Lincoln, TR, Reagan and the rest. The GOP should pack it in at this point.

after reading the above comments regarding Palin, I sense "fear"...I'm still wanting to know who the real obama is. Every day his stories change. Small town mom from Pa.

The real question is will Mccain make it to the finish line. Watch him carefully. I dont think his health will endure the coming pressures. Then the real circus begins. If you are inclined to prayer be ready!

John McCain has made a mockery of this election, the Republican Party, and the office of the Vice President, by nominating someone so patently unprepared for the world stage. But it's totally a grandstand move. Palin appeals to the hard-right GOP base, the ones embedded in the darkest red states. Her hardline anti-abortion, creationist, pro-gun persona is designed to appeal to the red-meat Republicans. She doesn't help at all with the moderates and libertarians. You could say that Sarah Palin energizes the GOP base, but she GALVANIZES the Democratic base! You will see this as the polls come over the next days.

Carol T: Obama has been under the most intense media scrutiny of any candidate in history since the long primary season began. He has been in the national spotlight as a rising star for 4 years, since his '04 DNC speech. Chapter and verse of his positions and policies in just about every area imaginable are available on his web site. He has written (not had ghostwritten) two bestselling books, one a memoir. He has never backed down from any tough interview, and has even gone into "the lions dens", as it were, of Saddleback and, most recently, Bill O'Reilly's show. What more would you have him do? I don't believe his stories have changed at all. He has been true to his principles throughout the intensive pressure and scrutiny of this campaign. McCain's stories have certainly changed as he has caved to party orthodoxy on issue after issue. Most recently in his VP selection. In contrast, no one has any idea who Sarah Palin is. She has read one speech to a national audience, written by a former Bush speech writer. And now, evidentally, she is going in to hiding and refusing to answer questions from the media. She will be a 72-76 year old heartbeat from the presidency should she be elected. Are you comfortable with that?

She'll never step down, and never admit she's over her head. Most amazing to me is that someone who's never passed up an opportunity to shine the spotlight on herself in her home state could be so sheltered from the press by those touting her qualifications for the highest offices in our nation's government. Our governor has shown in the past that she's willing to push her own people out of the way for personal publicity, but the McCain campaign won't let the rest of the country see her in a live unscripted setting. To me, that says a lot about what they think of her "qualifications." Check out this link for a July 27, 2008 Anchorage Daily News story on presentation of a National President's Challenge award by U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt. http://www.adn.com/ear/story/476453.html

(how do you get new paragraphs?... html codes don't seem to work) Oh and Palin will stay on. Removing her would be tantamount to suicide for the GOP. Of course, since we no nothing about her, there's a greater than 0 chance that some huge scandal will present itself and change the equation. But it's still a long shot. Obvious question for Rohan and others though: if she loves a good fight, why won't she answer questions from the media? She reads one speech written for her by a former Bush speechwriter, and that's enough? I will say, one (reasonable, I thought) argument against nominating Hillary was that it was the only way to motivate a demoralized Republican base. But with Palin's nomination, they've been motivated anyway. You can continue to argue, however, that because it's Obama and not Hillary, it took a transparently cynical cave-job by McCain to make that happen (does anyone think Palin would be the veep pick if Hillary was the opponent?). In a reasonable world that will cost him dearly amongst independents and true swing voters. I think it will.

Better question: When will Obama admit to his mistakes? His VP choice proves that he's nothing new, he picked a loser who's tried before and lost. It was a very bad choice. Biden is a life-long politician with no solutions, a very good compliment to Obama who is a life-long politician with no solutions. Obama woke up with a Moose Head in his bed last Thursday morning, and he's still screaming about it. Will Biden withdraw before Obama realizes his mistake in selecting him for VP, or will Biden simply do what he's always done in national politics -- Lose.

Gov. Palin won't withdraw, she will follow the path of her ancestors until all is conquered. Eventhough she's pure bullshit and needs prep before addressing the American people. This young country won't last long with the children of whites coming into power, their just to dumb and don't care about the will of the nation. They just want popular actors and personalities. It hurts them to concieve that it might be a MANOFCOLOR to cleanup and reset their precious nation. Stolen in bloodshed for them to live and prosper.