Obama's statements and his anger are not, I believe, about the fact he disagrees with Wright's views but rather that Wright is hurting him with us conservatives. Obama knew about Wright and his radical views but didn't believe Wright would be so vocal now with Obama running for the Presidency. Obama's now coming out and denouncing Wright because he wants the Whitehouse, at any cost. Whatever lies he needs to tell to convince America he's NOT anti White or America, he will do. Obama is one intelligent man and if you Americans out there want to believe he knew nothing about Wright and his hate of White Americans and the United States of America, I have a bridge to sell you.
If this were not so very serious it would be funny. Obama rejects Wright, than Wright rejects Obama, than Obama really rejects Wright. Its like 2 little boys in a p...ing match. Where is our country going and down what road? The Democratic party and its nominees are so artificial and phony. I fear the outcome if either of these 2 wind up in the oval office. God Help Us!
I think both are hurt and rejected and need time to heal.
Totally political. (20 year coma maybe) NOT!
I think both are hurt and rejected and need time to heal.
I think both are hurt and rejected and need time to heal.
I think both are hurt and rejected and need time to heal.
RE: Obamas reasons: (D) ALL OF THE ABOVE!
I think both are hurt and rejected and need time to heal.
I think both are hurt and rejected and need time to heal.
I think both are hurt and rejected and need time to heal.
I think both are hurt and rejected and need time to heal.
I think both are hurt and rejected and need time to heal.
If Obama couldn't judge the character of Rev. Wright after 20 years, how is he going to judge the character of foreign leaders & those who truely oppose the United States?
I'm picturing Obama and Wright having cigars and a laugh in the Oval office come January ala Bill Clinton
There was no other choice but to denounce Rev Wright. It was strickly for political reasons.
Stupid is as stupid does.......should have done this weeks ago. Why didn't he?
I think that Obama is pissed off and tired of the Rev. and his mouth. Just as soon as people started to forget about the whole ordeal, here he comes out of the woodwork and just for his own personal gain. That man (rev.wright) doesnt give a DAMN about Obama or anyone else.
I'm going with what Corrine said. Glad I'm republican!
Senator Obama would have more credibility if he stood up for his pastor and explained how he has learned from, but does not parrot, his pastor's teachings.
Oh please! In the church for 20 years and he didn't know what this guy is about? If he's that stupid - who wants to vote for him as President. The guy is dissing Wright for political purposes. DUH?
I'm going with what Corrine said. Glad I'm republican!
just like two terrorest wright and obama. You know Obama is UBL don't you.
His making these comments now because of political reason. I don't believed every words he said. He is a manipulative liar.
Obama has known about Rev Wright's hatred for white's and America before he announced his presidential campaign. That's why he dis-invited him to the announcement of his campaign.
It's all coming together now. Rev Wright was selling his hatred on DVDs from the church. Obama had to know.
Now that the heat has really been turned up he had to come out and do political damage control.
It's too little too late.
If the democrats are smart they will grab Hillary before she does something stupid too!
I think Obama did what he did today in rejecting Rev. Wright because he is a politician and he says what he has to say to get elected. Rev. Wright nailed it!
I have a different idea of the Wright-Obama issue. To Me it is all a Sting, that is the both of them made this decision to play parts. Wright is playing the bad guy to Obama's good guy, yes I truly believe it is all a fake, a ploy to help Barak, the problem is that it may backfire and hurt him instead of helping him get elected!!
Obama has flip flopped on this Rev. Wright issue so much that its obvious that he is now distancing himself to attract the blue collar white voters. I think its to late. This sure makes Obama look weak. I'm voting for a strong and tough candidate. Im for Hillary.
I think Diana needs her meds
the democratic party is absolutly at its worst.it would be so scary for obama to be president, what is rev, got s top notch job in the oval office. we all need to think about the what if;s
This was just so much BS. Obama has known, they have been playing these clips over and over again on the news and internet. He said something now, because his advisors finally convinced him that he had to or he wouldn't have a chance to win. And while I am ranting, I'm not sure where he wants to pretend to be coming from. If I understand correctly he was raised by his white mom, and he is a pretty wealthy man.
Barack slept with the devil to get his career started, and now to quote Re. Wright, "The chickens are coming home to roost". Barack is not a typical politician, but a bad one. His judgment is extremely questionable, and I do not believe he is telling the truth about who he really is.
I think Diana needs her meds
Qbama & Wright are one and the same !!!!!!!!
Obama is a smart man. He knows he must rise above this to beat Hillary. Of course he is going to slam Wright. He should have listened to a few sermons in all those 20 years of attending church. If this situation were reversed every black in America would cry racism loud and rightfully so!
Obama has been listening to Rev Wright for 20 years........
It's "politically correct" to reject Rev Wright now......
can Obama be believed now ?????
I am glad this is happening, just a little late, but not too, too late. I suuport Hillary but, I was impressed with Obama until I saw Wright in action and try as I might I cannot imagine him and his angry wife in the White House any more. If Obama gets the nominnation I will vote for McCain even though I am a democrat and its NOT about race, its about Hate and Obama supported hate by sitting in the pews for 20 years.
It is worth considering that Obama and Wright scripted the past few days so that Obama could formally denounce his spiritural advisor.
Reverend Wrong is only spewing the same rhetoric for the past 20 years. It's only when his spiritual advisor, beloved uncle, mentor is blowing his chance of becoming President that Obama denounces him.
Unfortunately his wife feels the same way as well.
She's been awfully quite lately...maybe she's afraid that Obama will denounce her also!
If Sen. Obama is so intelligent, why did he think the American public would believe his last-minute attempt to denounce Rev. Wright.
Obama is preaching that he can unit people and wants peace but can not resolve his issue with his pastor of 20 years.
As a moderate who votes both parties, I think that Corrine's comments are politically motivated and lack sophistication. The right and left wing extremists will focus on this issue while the rest of us talk about solutions that can make the USA and global community stronger.
I DISAGREE WITH MR WRIGHT VIEWS,BIG TIME..BUT I THINK MR WRIGHT IS MORE HONEST THAN MR OBAMA. MR OBAMA IS A SLIPPING AND SLIDDING WITH WORDS..I'M AN OLD MAN AND SOME TIME I NO AND SOME TIME I DON'T..AND SOME TIMES I DON'T EVEN NO HOW I NO BUT IM RIGHT, JIMMIE W BECK
Wright bites - in his arrogant self serving manner- he thinks he is "showing" the world how "intelligent"????he is= methinks he has slipped over the line in his self righteousness---
Obama joined the church because it was politically expedient. Obama is distancing himself now because its politically expedient. In spite of anything he says, Obama is just a politician engaged in what politicians must do to get popular support. In that regard Rev Wright is correct.
Wow. It took 20 years and how many days since this started. The only reason he is denouncing him is because he is desperate now that Hillary is getting the recognition she deserves. Saying this is not the same person, well, then why hiding him and praying with him at the announcement of the running. I'd love to see video of Obama at these church gatherings and see if he is hallaleuing to everything wright says. Now that would really seal his fate. Then he couldn't hide behind the fact that he didn't know about all of this stuff.
There is only so far Teflon can go before it starts coming off and the real thing is exposed.
I hear someone on you show saying he acted like a clown on stage. Well that's the way all those videos looked to me. He looked like a clown and screamer. In fact, how could Obama sleep through all that screaming, so there goes his excuse for sleeping.
Besides the AIDS thing, the first case I ever heard of was Rock Hudson and he definitely wasn't black, so that theory is blown out of the water.
Funny how the Rev. gives these sort of sermons in the house of God. My pastor has never spoken words like that in all my 65 years going to church. I think all his followers better sit up and take notice just what this man is trying to accomplish. A very large tear between the american people. For a person of the cloth that is the biggest sin of all. I sure hope all black people don't feel that way, cause if they do- GOD HELP Us. I don't think that this was the sort of Dream that Martin Luther King had, who in my sincere opinion was a true and honest Reverend. Wright couldn't hold a candle next to him.
Just think, if Obama becomes president, Rev. Wright, Faracan (sorry about the spelling) and the bomber will be roaming the halls of the White House.
Prosperity makes friends and adversity tries them ! But on the other hand Obama has cheated American people shamelessly !!
Obama was aware of all of Wrights comments many years before now. If he was angry and upset about the statements he in church, he would have left the church, but he did not. Obama has been protecting Wright up until now. Why? As the other post said...he wants to win the Whitehouse! He said himself that he could not disown his grandmother nor Wright! If Americans fall for Obama's BS we are in big trouble. Our country is in bad shape, and how his this man going to change anything? He has great words, but no exp to lead our country. If I were a black American, I would be upset at both men! Wright is telling the truth about his relationship with Obama.
There is one question for Mr. Oboma no-one has asked him. When you brag about All the work you did in the slums, for poor people,etc., and you are now talking about going above race why is it that the one thing you brag about is basically helping blacks????
Barak Obama sat in that pew for 20 years knowing it was politically correct and helpful in the Chicago political scene. I truly believe he thought this is exactly what he needed to do to get ahead. Ironically it is the same thing that may very well bring him down politically on the national level. I do not believe anything this man says. I believe if any thinking person will listen to all that he says, everyone who does will come away thinking this is all about him. I also believe the ridiculous claim that he is post partisan and for us all will finally be put to rest. He has almost all of the major media in his pocket, throngs of youth volunteers and almost the entire black community supporting him, but it is all a farce. He also is a person of no experience and a great deal of empty rhetoric.
Been at a church 20 years? If a moron is leading the church the intelligent individual bails. If he stays he buys into the philosophies and leaders beliefs.
This is a totally transparent political move.
If Wright's comments were offensive yesterday.... then they were offensive for the last 20 YEARS....
Deciding NOW that he couldn't abide his pastor's extreme rants, is just a little too convenient... just a little too cute.
After all the hoopla about Obama being a "change agent" and a different kind of politico, we can now see that all he is is just another corrupt Chicago machine politician who will do anything to get elected. He will scmooze to admitted terrorists and indited crooks to gain wealth and power. Is this the best we can do?
It is clear that Senator Obama keeps the wrong kind of friends.
Rev. Wright is only one...there are more. If he put these down for a security
clearance in the military he would be turn down.
Twenty years with this guy as your "personal mentor" and "spiritual advisor". Unbelievable. The Democrats are so far to the radical left and then on top of it this one offends the average person's intelligence by claiming ignorance of Wright after those twenty years.
A Pastor is a very important person in your life. You could not have sat there with your wife and children for 20 years unless you trusted and agreed. I believe they're very much of ONE mind, but it was hurting him in the polls.
The fact that Obama is experiencing the Rev. in "public" is at last opening his eyes to what this man is really saying. The old saying "You are known by the company you keep," is haunting Obama now. I truly believe that Obama is learning the hard way, and, he will correct his beliefs accordingly - that is a good thing, so that he can really represent the people, without predjudice for color. That being said, we need to hear about our Country's more serious issues - not some stupid preacher.
PLEASE, YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET IT TOGETHER. ALL OF YOU ARE JUST DRAGGING OBAMA CAUSE YOU ARE RACIST REPUBLICANS AND YOU DIDN'T LIKE HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE. HE IS A GOOD MAN, HE STANDS FOR GOOD THINGS, AND I THINK HE WILL DO A HELL OF ALOT BETTER THAN JOHN, HILLARY, AND YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD ENOUGH WITH THE HELL WITH ARE GOING THROUGH WITH GEORGE. GET IT TOGETHER PEOPLE AND STOP LOOKING AT HIS COLOR AND LOOK AT WHAT HE CAN DO. NO ONE CRITICIZED HILLARY WHEN SHE LIED SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT BEING SHOT AT AND ETC.
Obama and Wright sing the same note . . . mi mi mi mi (me).
Obama used Wright's church as a political catapult and Wright is using Obama to get his 15 minutes. The user is being used.
Call me naive...but I believe Obama has been hurt by his pastor and he wants to set the record straight. Sure, part of it is for political reasons; afterall he is running for President and Rev. Wright is hurting his chances by his stupid comments.
Actually, I don't think the American people are blowing this out of proportion as much as the media. I don't think Obama should be responsible in any way for the conduct of his pastor. Maybe Rev. Wright is jealous of Obama and attacking him. Maybe he is acting out of character. Maybe he has a brain tumor. Why should Obama be held accountable! I don't blame Obama at all for his connection with Rev. Wright. The man brought Obama to the Lord! That's very significant to me! He did right, however, by denouncing him today for his inexcusable comments.
Let's move on and quit feeding this subject. I know it doesn't affect my opinion about Obama's character whatsoever!
This entire Wright deal is unnerving. It's no wonder that the black population is killing itself off, no wonder they riot when something doesn't happen the way they think it should. They walk around pissed off and don't really know why. They're told in church that the government is to blame for everything that goes wrong. For heaven's sake, what happened to personal responsibility? The hate that's "learned" by children listening Wright is no different than what some children would learn as members of a southern white family taking their kids to a KKK meeting. Why are the european americans always the bad guys?
I voted that he was offended . I truly believe he was offended first by the pastor. I truly wish there had been more of a multiple ans.to the question. The answer to the question is ALL OF THE ABOVE!!!!
yeah we're all the racists and not reverend wrightie, give me a break
It is clear what Senator Obama is. He is a transparent phony, his pronouncements today were all about him only. This is not the first time the reverend has made these statements and today the Senator acts like he is now outraged. Sorry, it is too late.
The company you keep, says alot about a person. Wright had a close relationship with Obama, To say he is no longer his pastor, only after the issue imploded shows what people will do for political gain. It is outragous how all the other networks have there head in the sand. I am thankful for FOX NEW to get the truth out.
It's all part of the game. When Obama becomes President, Reverend Wright will be there praising him for fooling at the voters. Who knows, maybe in the future we can see the video of Obama dancing up and down the aisle's of his church during one of Wright's anti-white American sermons. At least Obama's wife came out clean, about how she feels about being an American.
This latest move by Barack is not for the reasons one might think. There will be no healing of this bleeding gusher right now. The fear factor has gotten through, all political lines, reminding everyone that we have a long way to go before we can unite behind Barack. A lot of healing needs to take place. Angry older people (White and Black) need to let go of the hurtful things that transpired. This man Wright would not allow Barack to forget what he (Wright) went throuh. WE must never forget cruelty, to ensure that it never happens again. The time has come for Barack to step aside and wait for 2016. Time separation is necessary. The race is a different race than Wright wanted it to become, change has come and sadness has overtaken Barack because it is not the kind of change he was hoping for or expected. Barack will certainly not get what what he wants this go round, not a surprise Wright wants it this way.
Sometimes if i try to recollect what people said about Barrack and Rev Wright; i start to pinch myself. For Gods sake the man is for real. After his first speech i remember a bunch of commentators saying 'oh he has not denounced the reverend enough' and now he has they say 'why didnt he do it before'? Its high time some people stop for a minute and listen to themselves.
amanda ... what's your favorite Kool-Aid flavor????
This is yet another "crabs in the barrel" tactic on the part of Wright. He is annoyed that Obama basically left him in the wind when he decided to run for President. Its a case of the teacher feeling dismissed by the student. Hopefully people with common sense will see through Wright and realize that although not perfect, Obama is a MUCH better choice than Hillary. At least thus far there are no mysterious deaths lingering.... Oh and by the way, Clinton pardoned the FALN members who in reality were the couriers of the first act of terrorism on US soil. Why did he do this, do you ask? To court the Puerto Rican vote when she ran for Senate in NY. The list goes on and on and on.... People who live in glass houses, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Wright is an actor and a bad one at that. Lets lower the curtain on this hater.
Wright nees HELP WITH Obama they bouth lie
Obama is as surprised by Wright's negative verbosity, as Hillary is at Bill's extra-marital flings.
You and others at FOX are parsimonious with information on and about Obama. You will never believe that a man can be disappointed when the person he trusted betrays his trust. Face it, you are pretending to be "fair and balance" but you action betrays your stated intent. You and others at Fox are partisan. Collectively, you are out to destroy not to inform.
Barack feels disillusioned by a man he thought was a minister for 20years. Now he realizes this man is just in my opinion for himself. Obamma is for the betterment of America and its people. Rev.Wright has advanced himself on the backs of his parishoners,using their hard earned money to live lavishly, and promote himself. A true minister never retires from the work of Religion.Barack hopes to change the face of America with a unity of the people that was never accomplished by the Civil War even until this day.
REV. WRIGHT IS A FUCKING PRICK AND SOMEBODY NEEDS TO SHUT HIM UP! HE IS TRYING TO GET HIS 15 MINUTES OFF FAME AND HE DOESNT CARE. JUST LIKE HE SAID HE IS NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT WHY SHOULD HE GIVE AND DAMN. FUCK REV. WRIGHT. ASS HOLE!!!
Doing the last debate Obam said that he denounced Reverend Wright when they asked him when, he said I denounce his words. The same day of the debate he had a closed door meeting with leaders of the Jewish Community. So its possible that he denounce him doing that meeting and maybe Reverened Wright found out about.
HE IS NOT BEING HURT BY ALL CONSERVATIVES.
I HAVE ALWAYS VOTED REPUBLICAN AND WE NEED A CHANGE IN THIS COUNTRY. WE NEED JOBS!!
I AM WHITE, FEMALE, MARRIED WITH TEENS AND I CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OBAMA!
GRETA- DON'T FALL INTO DIRTY POLITICS LIKE SEAN HANNITY
GO ON TOUR WITH OBAMA FOR A FEW DAYS - GET TO KNOW HIM
Barack Hussein Obama cannot be believed. He seemed to be in pain while distancing himself from Rev Wright.
I believe it is a political move and just to save his A--! No way can he belong to a church and not notice what the minister is saying. He is too young to be senile!
Barack feels disillusioned by a man he thought was a minister for 20years. Now he realizes this man is just in my opinion for himself. Obamma is for the betterment of America and its people. Rev.Wright has advanced himself on the backs of his parishoners,using their hard earned money to live lavishly, and promote himself. A true minister never retires from the work of Religion.Barack hopes to change the face of America with a unity of the people that was never accomplished by the Civil War even until this day.
Please Amanda, spare us the racial epithets! Your "man" is getting hit with the truth and it hurts, doesn't it dear? Did you really think all Obama had to do was walk out on stage, utter a few platitudes, and the American People will just pour the anointing oil over his head? Don't try to play the race card honey...we're not buying it anymore.
Cheers!
Ditto Rufus, Diana take your meds
I agree. I am a republican and I along with many others feel that everyone in general is tired of Fox and the news talking about Rev. Wright day in and day out and are not even watching anymore.
day late and dollar short.........not millions. political move...sorry
Obama is not anything new-its politics as usual. Democrats wake up! Clinton is head and shoulders above Obama in experience, policy and judgement. She actually has built bipartisan coalitions in congress, unlike Obama. Unlike Obama she was in a position (namely in congress) to vote to support our President and she did as did almost all of the senate based upon the info that they had at the time. Obama knew Rev.Wright for 20 years if he didn't know his views he is an idiot and I don't think he is, but he certainly isn't being honest.
Amanda, you are really short sighted if you think this is about racism. I would love for Obama to be authentic. I would vote for him in a minute. He could have shown himself as someone who could unite the country by his actions as a Senator during his term, by his actions in his personal life, by the project and activities he's engaged in.
But the story does not fit the words and I will not let the threat of being called a racist to stop me from speaking my mind.
Obama should have trashed Rev Wright long time ago if he really did not aggree with what Rev Wright says, but he does not do it because Rev Wright is doing his dirty work for him. Obama agrees with what Rev Wright says and with his beliefs but is to cowardly to admit it. God helps us if this man wins and goes to become our next president.
People need to grow up and focus on what the country really needs. I have several friends who say unbelievable things and who are racist, I am black as are they,and I do not agree with them and I try to change their minds because they are wrong. I think you can be in a situation like this as Senator Obama is. Reverend Wright is bitter about Senator Obama and is trying to sabotage him, he has probably suceeded. Most black churches do not preach hate that is so untrue. Please stop trying to put people in the same box. Reverend Wright is a disgrace and has an agenda for himself.
I DONT DRINK KOOL-AID AND I DONT LIKE THE INSINUATION. YES, I AM BLACK AND I AM PROUD OF IT. I HAVE TWO DEGREES AND AM VERY SMART AND I'M NOT REALLY LOOKING AT THE COLOR, BUT YOU CAN KISS MY ASS BECAUSE I'M KEEPING IT REAL.
If Senator Obama is so offended by his former "snake oil salesman" of a Reverend, then why is he still married to his wife? Senator Obama's wife and Rev. Wright are two peas in a pod. I am so tired of these politicians coming out sounding like the "victim" of what they brought upon themselves (i.e. Senator what's his name in the MPLS-St. Paul International Airport men’s bathroom stall soliciting sex with an undercover cop). Senator Obama (and his wife) knew what Rev. Wright's anti-white, anti-American and Anti-Government views were heading into the election and no matter what he says about the Good Reverend and not knowing or hearing about his hateful opinions is nothing less than a serious lie.
Senator Obama has "Insulted" the intelligence of this great country and he has found himself up to his armpits in his (and his wife’s) own lies about who they really are.
Can the American people trust this "carpet bagger?" I have to say no and neither should the world.
If elected President and after he places his right hand on the good book and is sworn in (i.e. "I Barrack Hussein Obama" etc.), he will have much more bigger things to deal with than a racist, America hating piece of crap such as Reverend Wright.
Senator Obama should not be our next President and nor should he be re-elected in the Senate. But then again, look who is still the Mayor of New Orleans.
By the way, your foul flaming language is not helping your cause any. Please try to be intelligent and tone it down, OK?
Someone needs to give Amanda a dick. Obama is a lier and hes a racist. It's what polliticans do is lie to obtain a position in a certain office.
I am on the same page with Tim. Glad to be a Republican. What is this country thinking about with Obama or Hillary? Their programs are all give away. I don't agree with everything President Bush has done but I feel safer because he has been our President. Either of the two Democrats will wreck this country.
I'M going with what Keith said, If over 20 years of association with someone he can't judge their character then how is he going to judge people as president? I want my president to beable to make good sound judgements without concerning where it puts them politically. A president is privy to things the public is not and has to use good judgement in all situations despite political opinions.
Jeremiah was a bull #$@$ 'er ,was a good frend of mine , never understood a single word he said but i helped him drink his wine .... and he always had mighty fine wine......
Well, if the shoes fits wear it. Wright was a reverse racist and now he doesn't want the title. But as long as he was preaching to all black church he could get away with his racism. Now that he is exposed he doesn't want to admit that's who he is. Well, every white person that accidentally says something that might be perceived as racist even if it was only once and then gets nailed by the media and gets fired, they have to face the music and now this guy has gotten caught being a racist without a cause because he is everything that he is complaining about the rich people, he's rich, lives in a mansion and as long as he can preach his rhetoric to these people and collect their money every sunday he's set for life. Obama is not a strong candidate for the presidency, and how sad would it be that he won just because of the color of his skin. You think our country is in bad shape now.
I AGREE WITH WHAT LYNDA SAID......I THINK IT IS ALL A PLOY BETWEEN OBAMA AND REV. WRIGHT.......SOMETHING JUST ISN'T RIGHT ABOUT THIS...AND IT STINKS BIG-TIME. MAYBE THEY FIGURED THE VOTERS WOULD "FEEL SORRY" FOR OBAMA.....AND SHOW WRIGHT.....
Isn't it interesting when Obama first started his campaign he was such an excellent speaker, he could smooth the keys off the piano.....now all he can do is stutter and try to find his words HA HA This shows he is lying through his eye teeth!!!! HANG ON......WRIGHT WILL COME BACK WITH MORE INCRIMINATING WORDS. HE ISN'T GOING AWAY LETTING OBAMA HAVE THE LAST WORDS.
Obama was outraged and called it a spectacle? hmm, just today? not in the last 20 years?
This smart Harvard grad didn't have a clue to what Rev Wright stood for and preached about?
Come on Senator, be a man stop the charade....a Uniter? no just the opposite!
You have and you have had a HUGE credibility problem. Not a qualification for President of the United States of America.
I feel like Barack Obama has cleared this up and needs to move on.
The press has nothing else to talk about right now.
I am really tired of the stories anyway so for now goodbye news channels.
Obama was married by Wright, had his children baptised by Wright, brings his children to church to listen to Wright. He never heard? Was never concerned for his children? You do not stay for 20 years and not be a believer. This is his church and his belief as well.
From the first time I heard Mr Obama speak I thought "OH WOW finaly someone who is of a different race than me, thinks like me"! Then he took off his Flag Lapell pin and quit saluting our flag! From then on I felt in my heart if he loses there will be race war in the streets of America! I feel if he wins our Country will fall deeper into the category of a third world! All the Dems want to do is cripple our military and say it is all in the name of Health care!
Thank God I am American I wouldn't want to be anything else
I feel that Barack Obama came out to say he was offended only when it was about him and his campaign being offended, not when the Reverend was offending the country and people in general. Then, he didn't seem to think that anyone was hearing him correctly. How could he not have known for 20 years that this was the belief of his Pastor?
Amanda; If obama can jump on wrights dick for 20 years and he believed every sermon, how come he decides to get off of it now? Because he's running for office?
I have been a member of the black churh all my life...it is impossible for Sen. Obama to haveNOT known how Rev. Wright viewed America!
The questions to the survey are too narrow with regard to Obama's comments being for political reasons. A better comparison of questions would have been "were his comments made tonight to explain his seperation of views from pastor Wright. "Political reasons" in my opinion means to spin the issue to one's own benifit.
With Obama being friends with Rev Wright for 20 years, it strikes me as odd to think that it is not until present day that he has heard and disagrees with his view points. I encourage all of you to read Michelle Obama's college thesis paper. You may find some of the same type of messages that Rev. Wright presents to his church members in his sermons. INTERESTING? mabye!
Ditto to Corrine and Cindy's comments above. J. Wright is an angry, self-absorbed, racist man who calls himself a minister of God. There's no doubt that Barrack Obama shares Rev. Wrights views and beliefs. Barrack Obama's sole purpose and goal is getting into the White House. He willt say and do whatever it takes to get elected. This is not a man that we as American need leading our country. If American's vote this man in, God help us all!! I believe he's as dangerous as his minister. If he gets elected as President of the United States, Americans will see how quickly he forgives and opens his arms to his minister, the man he "..loves like an Uncle."
Obama had no choice to say what he did but finally...get real Obama! He is doing this only because of political reasons. Wright was right...Obama is a politician and will do anything necessary to get elected....even denouce his minister who he has really now only 'heard' for the first time in 20 years?
Obama is much like the unfaithful husband who pleads his sorrow, not for his infidelity, but for having gotten caught. Obama had 20 years to dissociate himself from the hateful bilge he had listenened to for 20 years, but now that the "mainline" media is on his case and he sees the nomination slipping from his grasp, he finds it politically expedient to jetison his so-called mentor. Most of see him for what he truly is--an opportunist fighting for his political life.
funny Amanda is the real racist who automatically assumes ANYONE who disagrees with her is a racist republican-----you are the problem wright has created and obama spoke of in his infamous speech
Senator Barrack Hussein Obama should have been as outraged in the beginning when Rev Wright's comments were played on the tvs across America. Also, Mr Obama was at the church and under this minister's tuteledge for over 20 years. He has never denounced "WHAT" this so called minister said until he finally saw what a wrong political blunder Mr. Wright's comments continued to be said. Mr. Wright is Wrong and Mr. Obama is Wrong for America!!!
I think Senator Obama needs to step down and then I would have more respect for him. Senator Obama would say anything now just to save his whole neck. This is a real shame but this is what black does to black all the time. The people of America really need to get on with life and let that angry black man rant and rave to the people in Africa. Mr. Wright is a true racist and he hates anyone that is white and he is even now trying to involve the black church as if this is battle of black against white. This man is very sick and needs treatment right away. Why did Mr. Wright decide to build in an all white community, why didn't he build in the black community or better yet, why didn't he build in Africa where his roots are. Enough of this crazy man already !!
Obama broke bread with Edward Said, he attended the million man march led by Farrakhan, he has been endorsed by Hamas - Obama is right where he should be - cowering in the corner wondering what happened. Obama is just as arrogant as Rev. Wright and I truly believe that he thought that middle America was too stupid to see through his facade and that he could use guilt and shame to talk his way out of this mess amongst the liberal "intellectuals."
I predict before it's all over, the DNC will be asking Obama to bow out of the race because he's too divisive and could never win the general election and we will all see Obama endorsing Hillary. I don't even think he's viable as her running mate at this point. Too bad, I was looking forward to the fireworks when the Republicans got ahold of Obama during the general.
Mark's attack on Corinne was disgusting and smacks of the actual partisanship he denies. This is not about right or left, it is about the truth. Only someone who is a total groupie and sold out to the Obama myth would believe his shtick anymore. Honesty means much more than apparently Mark wants to realize. It is a sad cliche to say that this is driving everyone off the issues. I an sick of people forgetting that the measure of anyone is their character. The point is that if we can't even get beyond the question of this man's character, then we certainly should not want him leading the most wealthy and powerful nation on the planet. I believe he is a politician who the media have been so overwhelmingly in the tank for that it has been despicable. I am not a Hillary Clinton fan, but she has been given a raw deal by the press who rushed to love this man without knowing anything about him. Hopefully, the cult of Obama is finally coming to an end and a more truthful and objective look at all three remaining hopefuls will be achieved.
I don't consider Wright as a pastor, I think of him more as a racist and trouble maker. I would hate to be in his place when he faces God and has to explain all of his lies.
I think he's an embarrassment to his own race and this country. As they say, don't let the door hit you in the ___ on the way to what ever country would have him..He's not needed here. He's just pushing hate and using his pulpit to do it. I'm sure Iraq could use him.
i am sixk and tired of the games fox news palys on this whole matter.anybody on this post or watchin fox news's sean hannity or bill o'reilly that think rascism is not alive is either lying or just plain dumb!i am black.do i think all white people are redneck klan members NO! do i think there are rasict still in the is country..yes.Rev wRight said what america does not want to hear.the average white person today wants this whole race thing to go away.but Sean Bell gets shot 51 time and the cops get of.OJ get Aquitted in a court of law.but is still pegged as a killer,while MARK FUhRMAN is workin for fox news when he was outted in court as a rascist.ALL WHITE ARE NOT BAD PEOPLE but i am from the south..you wanna see rasicm go to youtube and watch how many rednecks talk all tough bout lynching and how we black people are dorty and unedcuted!
I'M SORRY ABOUT MY LANGUAGE I JUST DONT LIKE THE COMMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE. I'M NOT MAKING IT A COLOR THING BECAUSE IF OBAMA WAS ANY OTHER BLACK MAN, I WOULD NOT VOTE FOR HIM. I AM BLACK BUT THE LAST THING I WANT TO SEE IN THE WHITE HOUSE IS A LYING, CHEATING BLACK MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE. WE GOT ENOUGH OF THAT WHEN BILL CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT. I REALLY THINK THAT OBAMA CAN DO SOMETHING FOR THE COUNTRY BUT, FIRST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND LISTEN , TO FIND OUT WHAT HE IS REALLY ABOUT. ITS LIKE THEY ARE READY TO REJECT HIM BEFORE THEY GET TO KNOW WHO HE REALLY IS.
Dianne I think you are not thinking right. I think he just said that about rev. wright because he did not want the american people to think he was racist. I personally believe Obama is racist and he knew all along that rev. wright was to. Come on now he knew this guy for 20 years how stupid are people ofcourse he knew.
Please! Why do talk show hosts throw out comments that have double
meanings? I heard Greta read a statement about Obama's speech today.
Then she went on to discuss just a portion of that statement to make it sound
as if his denounciation was about Obama. When many times during his
statement he mentioned the affect on HIS CAMPAIGN AND THE DISTRACTIONS FOR THE ISSUES AROUND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Why,
please tell me was that point under discussed and the "me' part overly discussed and taken out of context. I use to be a fan of Fox News. But when it comes to the issue of Barack Obama, none of the talk shows hosts have been fair and balanced with the exception of Bill O'Reilly and Alan Coombs. It's a shame because they have a bully pulpit that is insulated. Once their words are out, except for the guests they have, the public has no way of making them more accountable for their words and their biased statements. I hope Hillary Clinton does win the nomination if Obama loses and I hope this country finds out what she is REALLY like. Don't forget no one is mentioning her past with
defending Black Panthers or a radical group like the Weatherman 40 years
ago. She has a long history of wanting to "Change this country". Put
nothing past the Clintons!!!
That's bullshit Alvin. Both parties suck, do you think they care about the American people? Sure, I support my country and all but I will not vote for any election only to get stabbed in the back by lies. What we need to do is get rid of everyone in the white house and actually pick intelligent people. If you see Bush is the best, you have my pity.
*UNEDUCATED*
amanda....you are such a poster child for the two faced liberal. the open minded progressive always, without fail, resort to vile name calling when
anyone disagrees with you. grow up and get some class. you give libs a bad name they really cant afford right now....and by the way....you are a great representative of obama. and you're calling anyone a racist????? girl.....
take a good hard look at michelle obama and the "rev." obama stayed with for 20 years. he's a political hack, just like the rest of them.
Senator Barrack Hussein Obama should have been as outraged in the beginning when Rev Wright's comments were played on the tvs across America. Also, Mr Obama was at the church and under this minister's tuteledge for over 20 years. He has never denounced "WHAT" this so called minister said until he finally saw what a wrong political blunder Mr. Wright's comments continued to be said. Mr. Wright is Wrong and Mr. Obama is Wrong for America!!!
I think Obama needs a TV commercial showing Rev. Wright under that bus!
Whites once had a church that spoke such hatred. It was the KKK and it is just a shame that we have a mainstream media that supports such hate filled speach. This needs to be condemned just the same that the before mention group was. The only way to move forward is for the educated to quit preying on the uneducated and filling them full of lies. (ex. that the gov't created the aids virus) This in large part is what is wrong with America. Only here could someone complain that the "rich" are not paying enough taxes when the top 10% of incomes pay the majority. Quit being a victim of yourself and build yourself into something special.
Obama can't stand the fact that he sit in Rev. Wright's church for 20 years and now he has to denounce Rev. Wright's statements. Why now??? Could he not get a character reading before now? The answer is an obvious political move. There is nothing else it could be. Now raises the question.... Will Obama take 4 or 8 years to make other important decisions for our country?
it scares and Concerns me greatly to see this potential so close to OUR WHITE HOUSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What would sunday dinners be like at OUR Nations Capital ?
Think about that ...I feel OBAMA has deceived so many of us..............
Greta, I think this Rev. Wright fiasco, was arranged and funded by the Clintons, Bill and Hillery! If I'm correct, score another for Hillery!
It was so obvious that Obama made these statements in desparation of saving his campaign. I don't think Obama believed himself what he was saying. His manner and content of his speech were nothing but political
ploys.
I believe this to be a political move and Obahma has heard the Rev. Wright speak this way in the past 20 years. I feel because this could have a negative impact on his race for the presidency he now is denouncing the Rev. This and the comment Obahma's wife made about finally being proud to be an American, has confirmed in my mind Obahma is not who he would like the American people to believe he is. I am proud to be an American, every day of my life and I am middle class with a hard middle class work ethic, not an elitist.
Dearest Amanda, It is well known that intelligent people know how to get thier point across without using profanity. Everyone is intitled to thier own opinions and comments. Obama made a huge mistake in not putting distance between him and this mess a loooooong time ago.I do wish we could move on though.
A PERSON CANNOT ATTEND A CHURCH FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME AND NOT KNOW THE VIEWS OF THE PASTOR. CHURCH MEMBERS TALK AMONG THEM SELVES ABOUT MESSAGES THEIR PASTOR PREACHES. IF THESE HATE MESSAGES WERE NEW TO THE CONGREATION THEY WOULD OF BEEN SHOCKED, BUT NO, THEY WERE DELIGHTED. A FEW YEARS BACK GARY HEART LOST HIS CHANCE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT OVER A WOMAN AND THIS IS FAR WORSE. WHAT IS TAKING THESE DELEGATES SO LONG TO REALIZE WE HAVE A NUT CASE HERE. THERE IS JUST TOO MUCH NEGETAIVE STUFF HERE. WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO TAKE EVEN THE SMALLEST OF CHANCES ON THIS GUY. NO, I AM NOT MAD BY USING ALL CAPS, I JUST DON'T SEE THAT WELL,
is Xavier for real when he says.......... "how we black people are dorty and unedcuted!"???
All are finally learning what I have always known, the truth always comes out. Obama is not trueful, and now it is too late to distance himself from
Rev. Wright. He needs to move on now, and that is out of
the running for President. How anyone could vote for Sen. Obama
knowing WHAT he stands for. God help us if anyone like him ever
rules our country.
Pat Trussell-Mann
Greenwood, SC
Cat and Amanda: What flavor Kool Aid you been drinking? This man has blown his cover. He has bought into Rev. Wright's beliefs for 20 years and we all have seen Hillary's show for almost 20 years ourselves, and you think either could run this country? Where have you been?
Also, Juan Williams is fantastic! I love his comments, agree with him 99.9% of the time, and I think he deserves his own show. Fox News - give this man his hour!
Because of the way foxnews spin this story, it really doesn't matter what Obama say. It's very clear they are anti Obama. They are not "Fair and Balanced". If they were, there are other folks in Obama's life who can help them understand who he is. They only present Jeremiah Wright. Why not talk to his grandmother here in the US, who happens to be White. For the life of me, I do not understand why they keep saying he is black. He was raised by a white mother and white grandparents. If FOX is going to be fair, present a side that shows his character based on his own actions. FOX IS NOT FAIR AND BALANCED. He cannot control Rev. Wright; which should be obvious now after hearing him over the weekend. That's like telling John McCain's mother she cannot rent a car...so what did she do, she purchased one. He is old enough to be his father. We all know when a person reach a certain age, you will talk to a wall.
I agree with you there, Amanda. Clinton and McCain both leave me cold so far, and I think it's high time for a three-way UNLIMITED debate! I say, let the three get into the ring, slug it out, and may the best man win.
REV. WRIGHT HAS PROVEN HOW OBNOXIOUS HE CAN BE. iF HE WANTS TO CONTINUE ON TV, LET HIM PAY FOR THE AIRTIME.
Hello, I believe Obama, his spin doctor , Wright and his wife set this whole poor Obama, the victim of a crazy loon who is suffering from post retirement, all of this makes me sick, Wright didn't just wake up two weeks ago and portray this radical Paster, it has obviously been going on for along time, shame on them for thinking the AMERICAN people are ignorant enough to believe this , Obama, his wife and yes his young children sat in that church week after week while from the pulpit Wright encouraged racial tension and American hatred, this was verified by Michelle when she said it was the first time she eas proud to be an American, those of you who are riding the Obama train need to wake up and smell the roses, Obama is not a decent human by his own poor judgement....e.i. Rezko, Ayers and God only knows who else is criminal, this man can't properly lead he's self, family let alone THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Theresa, FL.
Wake up, America!!! Does Obama and Wright think we are all a bunch of FOOLS? Nobody can convince me that Obama and Wright are not in constant communication with one another, and that that the contents of Wright's "shows" over the week-end and on Monday were not already fully known by Obama. It is a deliberate ploy to make it seem like Obama is disavowing Wright in order to get elected. If Obama becomes President, he and Wright will become best pals once again. I fear very much for the future of this country and there will be HELL and REPARATION to pay for the American people. GET WISE NOW!! I know from experience as a Political Science major that politics is a fool's game and that the average citizen would be appalled if they knew even 10% of the shady deals and out right criminal activities that are covered up in the name of politics. There are good men and women out there who are elected to offices and do a good job. But sometimes one bad apple DOES spoil the whole barrel. Obama has a hidden agenda and we all will truly be fools if we allow him to be elected as President of the United States.
THIS IS TO BEVERLY D: I REJECT YOUR COMMENTS. I AM AN OBAMA SUPPORTER AND I DONT CARE WHO DOEST LIKE IT. YOU STICK WITH YOU CANDIDATE AND I WILL STICK WITH MINE. WE WILL SEE WHO WINS IN THE END!!!
Obama was shocked, but he was shocked that Wright admitted that Obama's game is strictly political and he does and will say whatever is necessary to become President, that he plays to the audience he is in front of like a cameleon and his performace in San Francisco supports my conclusion. Thus "I am shocked," is yet another political game. Next he will want to sell us choice acreage in the middle of a swamp in Florida!
Amanda, I have an honest question that I would like to ask. Obama is ethnically mixed. When I was young (in the 60's), ethnically mixed people were rejected by both whites and blacks. When did ethnically mixed people become accepted as black? (You may not be old enough to know but just thought I could ask because I missed the transition.)
I think Rev. Wright groomed Obama from day one. I don't know what happened, but something went wrong between them. I would also like to say as an American, I don't look at Rev. Wright as a pastor or a black man. I was angry, about the comments he made about our country and our government. I don't feel it has anything to do with his occupation or that he is black: after all we are all AMERICANS! AREN'T WE ?
Obama has finally shown the American people his true nature. How can you attend a church for 20 years, listen to the same pastor and claim 20 years later you didn't have a clue about his beliefs. If you believe that pack of BS I really have some land to sell you.
Obama hates this country and you can see it in his face. He and Michelle are about the most arrogrant people I've seen.
Obama will have to prove to me through his actions that he truly loves and respects America. He has to respect and honor our flag by saluting it when the National Athem is played. He has to salute the flag and repeat the Pledge of Alligence. He has to wear a lapel Flag pin to show that he truly is a true American. And finally, he has to swear on the Holy Bible his allegience to God and America.
I'm an Independent Voter and thank God, we have a Republican to vote for.
I do not believe Obama is sincere. I believe he is a calculating snake-oil salesman who has had his eye on the prize for many, many years and now has to face his ghosts. He was not counting on Wright's ego... but hopes that we are dumber than what we are.
America--- wake up!! Show him you're not.
There is too much at stake. These are scary times. We need a leader we can believe in. We need a leader we can BELIEVE!!!
i agree with lynda, this is a sting, a political tactic
This is for Patty, yes you are right about African Americans killing each other, but let me tell you something, you know nothing about the real reason and it is staring you in the face with the Obama Wright situation, it is hatred of blacks for the success of some other blacks, and it is sad for us all, and all black churches do not preach hatred, you don't know what you are talking about. Have you ever attended a black church? please do not be so quick to believe all you hear and so quick to judge. Reverend Wright is on the extreme end.
Obama is COOKED!
Also stop shoving some many cookies, especially tracking cookies, on my system or the voting will stop by me and should stop by all!!!!
WRIGHT IS A HATEFULL MAN I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE PEOPLE OF THAT CHURCH WOULD FOLLOW THIS MAN AND CLAIM HIM AS HIS PASTOR I THINK HE HAS LOST HIS MIND.I KNOW MY PASTOR WOULD NEVER TALK LIKE THAT ABOUT ANY RACE.WE HAVE ALL RACE IN OUR CHURCH AND LOVE EVERY ONE OF THEM,MAYBE THAT BECAUSE WERE TAUGHT TO LOVE AND NOT HATE.I DON'T KNOW ABOUT WHAT KIND OF A GOD HE ANSWER TO BUT MY GOD IS A LOVING,KIND.FORGIVING GOD. WE DON"T LOOK AT COLOR
IT ALL COMES FROM THE HEART.IF I WAS OBAMA I TAKE MY FAMILY AND RUN LIKE HELL FOR I THINK HE HAS THE DEVEIL AFTER HIM BY THE NAME OF REV WRIGHT AND I DON"T THINK I WRONG GOD BLESS EVERY AMERICAN AND THIS GREAT COUNTRY AND THANK GOD WE HAVE MEN AND WOMEN IN THE MILTARY THAT PROTECT US FROM THESE CRAZYS.MAYBE HE NEED TO MOVE TO IRAN I WONDER HOW LONG HE WOULD LAST THEIR,IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT HE TOOK ( by his own words) his people back years,he wants everyone to live in hate.sorry wright were american and dam proud of it
i agree with lynda, this is a sting, a political tactic
barack & michelle do no't care about Amarican i do no't trust them our do i belive them barack needs to get out now
Senator Obama is upset because he was founded out to be a liar and dishonest. Only the MSM wanted him to denounce Rev Wright and Obama accommodated their demands. The American people do not need a president who is governed by polls, and television ratings. Obama will now surely reap what he has sowed. Obama is a con-artist and before long, thousands of his followers will be put to further public humilation and shame. Obama has also put the AA community into a divide that will show up on election day in NC and Indiana.
I go with LYNDA'S comments., Good Cop Bad Cop routine. This situation is and has always been well orchestrated by Obama and his associates.
I also like what PATTY had to say.
I do not believe Obama is sincere. I believe he is a calculating snake-oil salesman who has had his eye on the prize for many, many years and now has to face his ghosts. He was not counting on Wright's ego... but hopes that we are dumber than what we are.
America--- wake up!! Show him you're not.
There is too much at stake. These are scary times. We need a leader we can believe in. We need a leader we can BELIEVE!!!
THATS RIGHT JIM. IF HILLARY IS ANYTHING LIKE HER HUSBAND, SHE IS A LIAR AND A CHEAT TOO, AND SHE IS A WOMAN(TALK ABOUT BITCHINESS IN THE WHITE HOUSE) EVERY TIME SHE DOESN'T GET HER WAY THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES ARE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. JOHN IS JUST TOO OLD AND ALL HE WANT TO DO IS KEEP THIS HORRIBLE ECONOMY GOING THE WAY IT IS.
Has Obama really turned his back on Jeremiah Wright and his former Liberation Theology followers, or is this more 'political' maneouvring ??
At least Wright has not changed his message.
Obama had two things to bring to the table, "change" and "judgement." Well, now that your "judgement" has proved to be a joke, the only "change" I'm seeing is the "change" you're doing to try to save your political life. TYPICAL LIBERAL, AIN'T GONNA WORK THIS TIME!
It's really hard for me to believe someone could attend a church for this length of time and not be aware of their pastors views. How could we ever trust him as our President to make sound decisions when dealing with leaders through out our world. Our country is in bad shape and this is the best we can do to find a potential leader of our country?
To Xavier,
Of course there is racism in America - Rev. Wright is a prime example. There are racists on both sides. It's 2008 and both black and white people need to move forward. Do black men get pulled over more by the police? Yes. Are black people still denied housing in America? Yes. It will not get better, Xavier, by having the Rev. Wrights out there spewing the same hate that they've received.
Martin Luther King Jr. was the best example of how to advance the black community to equal status in this country. He is the man responsible for advancing civil rights in this country. Not Malcolm X, not Louis Farrakhan - peaceloving, forgiving, intelligent, and nonhateful and nonviolent Martin Luther King Jr. So many streets named after him are filled with crime - that's a travesty.
Jeff, I am a true moderate. I voted for Bush #1 and Bush #2, and Gore and Arnold. I am not a puppet that is spoon-fed by party affiliation and media hype that I read in this thread. I'm a true undecided voter right now - all three candidates should be viewed by how they can help the USA and the global community. Even McCain is not concerned with this issue.
This is what you get when you jump on the band wagon of an empty suit whose greatest accomplishment to date is a speech at a convention. Then the problem was compounded when the media jumped on the obama band wagon because they couldn't hold their nose and accept the inevitable hillary anymore, so they didn't properly vet obama and just looked the other way---wright has been a story for over a year and now they can't avoid the issue anymore====sorry to late
Good Evening
I do believe that the issue between Pastor Wright and Senator Obama will encroach on the Black Vote during this election. I have from the begining been a Hillary Clinton Supporter. It is unfortunate that Obama can not focus on the campaign; however, I do not believe that Senator Obama's comments did not mirror his true thoughts. Senator Obama stated that he was outraged and had never heard Pastor Wright verbalize those types of comments before. I believe that Pastor Wright has demonstrated this type of behavior and demeanor during the twenty years that Senator Obama was a memebr of his church. For Senator Obama to state that he is shocked; I believe is an untrue statement. Obama made the statement this evening for political reasons only. How can anyone support one who does not have a stance of conviction but one who has a stance of verbal appeasement.
In the end, it appears as though Pastor Wright was upset due to Senator Obama distancing himself from association of him and he then made comments that he knew would affect Senator's Obama's campaign. I believe that Senator Obama knew of Pastor Wrights beliefs but did not anticipate on Pastor Wright verbalizing them publically. Senator Obama then verbalized his frustration. I believe that this issue will continue unfortunately.
Thank you for allowing me to voice my opinion.
Obama has to come out and try to make the American people think that he is seperating himself from Wright, but this could all be a big front. Obama and Wright may be playing ever one for a fool. Hoping every one will fall for their play acting. They both hate America. As well as Mrs. Obama. Obama said that he put his hand on a Bible when he was sworn in, well it was the Koran, or what ever he calls it. He calls that a bible. That is what the Moslems call their sacred book. It's not God's Word that is in the good old King James, or one of the other translation. Wise up America. Obama can not become our next President.
Thank you Derek!!! I am a white southerner and have been close to black Americans all my life. I have been to numerous black churches. They have always been so gracious and a blessing to worship with and the preachers do not spew hate from the pulpit. This Wright is an evil anti-American maniac.
obama is a politician that is a member of one of chicago's prominent black churches. The way you get things done is to align with groups of powerful people and organizations whether you believe in all of their policies or not. Reverend wright is a very powerful minister and a very respected person worldwide which makes it hard to defend against.
What are we so concerned about? What can Obama do to this country that
Clinton didn't do when he was President. Let's start with letting Bin Laden go.
How about leaving our Armed Forces in disarray. How about the China
connection - strange guests sleeping in the Lincoln Room.which we still don't know much about it. How about Monica Lewinsky, pardoning criminals, etc, etc. How about impeachment.
We wink, wink and elect him again as Co-President all the while non-electing
someone because of guilt by association. Double standards, You bet!! Why?
Every individual American must search their heart and answer that question
for themselves. In many cases, I think I know the answer!!!
Obama is a politician, what he did today is what politicians do. When they no longer have use for some one, or when some one damages their chances for political office, they distance themselves. Obama does not have good judgement, or he would have gotten out of the church a long....long....time ago. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who has noticed how angry Obama's wife looks. I pray to God the people who worship Obama wake up soon!
WRIGHT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A GODLY MAN------PLEASE HELP US ---NEVER HAVE I HEARD A MAN OF GOD SPEAK THIS WAY . OBAMA JOINED THAT CHURCH !
I CERTAINLY HOPE HE WILL TAKE HIS KIDS SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY DO TEACH THE BIBLE, ALSO HOPE OBAMA WILL STUDY A LITTLE TOO.
Has Obama really turned his back on Jeremiah Wright and his former Liberation Theology followers, or is this more 'political' maneouvring ??
At least Wright has not changed his message.
Susie ,
There are people of all opinions on this blog, fair, unfair, odd opinions, right opinons, wrong opinions. Fair and balanced is perspective ;-)
Please Stay calm and focused on what is really important. Actions speak louder than words. A picture is worth more than 10,000 words Thank you
I think this too shall pass.. I hope it's not to late. I don't want to see the Clinton's back in the White House for any reason. I think this will be the year for the Democrats. I am a voting Republican, but don't see John McCain getting elected. I like Obama with his flaws, better then anything the Clinton's have to offer! Thanks
He is trying to get North Carolina on his side, He would like for them (N. C.)
to think he is all sincere. What he hasn't learned yet is the people in the tarheel state are very smart . There are blacks, reds, and whites in N. C.
and some of each going to the polls to elect a canidate and it sure isn't looking good for him.
Obama is only interested in the Presidency. He will do anything it takes to get there, including using Wright to jump-start his career. What goes around, comes around. Sooner or later everyone will figure out what a fraud he really is.
i can really see the hurt this has bought to Obama as a man before Dem.Nominee....Rev. Wright is portraying complete ignorance and a sense of a mind that has been damaged by something. I'm Pro Obama and overlooking Rev. Wright's comments & actions, hopefully the media will not fuel the fire by giving this person airtime....that seems to be what he strives for..."all the glory"
Please listen to Obama and what he represents for the United States.
He is trying to get North Carolina on his side, He would like for them (N. C.)
to think he is all sincere. What he hasn't learned yet is the people in the tarheel state are very smart . There are blacks, reds, and whites in N. C.
and some of each going to the polls to elect a canidate and it sure isn't looking good for him.
Did Obama disown his pastor today? If he did, does that mean he disowned the black community and his white grandmother? I'm looking forward to Wright's response. I say let the family feud continue.
what i thought was interesting but no one has talked about is that OPRAH goes to that church!!!! How come no one is asking her any questions??? Does she believe the same as Wright??? What the hell is going on here???
Wake up, America!!! Does Obama and Wright think we are all a bunch of FOOLS? Nobody can convince me that Obama and Wright are not in constant communication with one another, and that that the contents of Wright's "shows" over the week-end and on Monday were not already fully known by Obama. It is a deliberate ploy to make it seem like Obama is disavowing Wright in order to get elected. If Obama becomes President, he and Wright will become best pals once again. I fear very much for the future of this country and there will be HELL and REPARATION to pay for the American people. GET WISE NOW!! I know from experience as a Political Science major that politics is a fool's game and that the average citizen would be appalled if they knew even 10% of the shady deals and out right criminal activities that are covered up in the name of politics. There are good men and women out there who are elected to offices and do a good job. But sometimes one bad apple DOES spoil the whole barrel. Obama has a hidden agenda and we all will truly be fools if we allow him to be elected as President of the United States.
I AGREE WITH YOU TOTALLY JULIA. WHO NEEDS, OR WANTS THE CLINTONS BACK IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
I believe Obama and Wright worked out this ploy so Obama could use the excuse that he really didn't know the extend of Wrights anger and disloyality to America and the extend Wright would go using the Black Chuch and racisim as a justification for such outragious comments. Now Obama can say he realizes the extend that Wright will go to and a feeling if disloyality to himself personally. I believe it was all planned or why would Wright may himself look like such a JASKASS aagin.
You people talking about this being a ploy, are you all serious? you can' really think that this a part of a plan to help Senator Obama get elected, you are on another planet. He had just a slight chance at best anyway, you can see with the comments of people like you that think that way, that he had a very uphill battle and Reverend right just pushed him to the bottom of the hill, and he is
now done done done.
I am not a bible thumper by any means, however I have been to many churches, Have many religious friends, and a little bit of common sense and it is simply bewildering to me how people can even consider this clown a rev. Pastor or anything that even resembles it with any seriousness whatsoever.
Greta, good show nightly. FOX is the only NETWORK telling the whole truth, ALL THE TRUTH and nothing but the truth re. the 2008 Democratic Primary Presidential Canditate election. Our Democratic Club in Michigan thanks you for taking the initiative to do this.
If Hillary got her deserved delegates in Florida and Michigan Obama would be nothing but a bad dream
Christian for over 55 years..My pastor is on the right track...he preaches the Love of Christ and the only way for everlasting life..I go to church to be in the presence of my Lord......no other reason...If my pastor preached what Rev. Wright preached and the way he uses other people for his own personal worth he would not be preaching. PS I am Southern Baptist
Why are the blacks following Obama? He was raised by a white mother, and a white grandmother and white grandfather in white states (Hawaii and Kansas). He went to school at mostly white schools. He is as transparent as a clear piece of glass...... It is politically expedient to be "black" now.
and also his demeanor seemed so disingenuine!!! Why didnt he look right into the camera and speak to Wright?? He had his head down the entire time.... very telling i think!!
Jen M, Oprah left the church some time back (don't know exactly when). She showed better judgment than Obama. Maybe we should vote for her?
So why is Obama suddenly offended now? He wasn't offended a month ago when he said (quote) "I can no more disown Reverend Wright than I can my own white grandmother." Wright hasn't said anything different now...no worse or no better, so why is Obama all of a sudden "OFFENDED" and "ANGRY"??? Geez, I can't believe he is selling this crap to the American people!
I so tired of hearing that people only heard short bites from wright's sermon and they didn't get the whole message. When I hear my Lord's name taken in vain, it doesn't take but those 2 words for me to have an opinion of this "rev." How much more does one need to hear? He only wants to stir up TROUBLE!
I also feel as though no matter what One's race, religion or political party is, One should view each issue that is prominent to he or she, view all global issues that affect the country as a whole and then decide on which canidate will best serve the country as a whole.
It is unfortunate that Obama's supporters have to assess this issue in correlation to their continued support.
I just wish he had been honest and not try to appease the public due to his greater aspiration.
I will continue to support Hillary Clinton in every aspect.
I will digress now. :-)
Good Night
THANKS GENEIL, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT SOMEONE SEE'S THAT . REV. WRIGHT IS A TROUBLE MAKER AND YOU CAN TELL JUST BY LOOKING AT THE APPEARANCES HE HAS MADE.
Barack Obama knew quite well what his Pastor's beliefs are and have been for the twenty years....he thought he could have both worlds and it has backfired.....thank God. All the money George Soros etc. have cannot buy Obama's way out of this mess. I watched and carefully listened to Obama's speech today......his words were perfunctory and one could see that he was quite miserable having to say them. He is in a catch 22 situation. Should he lose the nomination he will go back to Trinity and Rev. Wright....I truly believe Obama loves the man and his ministry. Should he win the nomination I personally will do whatever I can to help defeat him. I've already signed up as a volunteer for the McCain campaign.
A REQUEST TO THE SPAMMERS HERE IN THIS FORUM:
Would it be too much to ask if you would bless us with not spamming us with the same duplicate comments over & over, and comment with original thought? Viola Richardson...you know what I mean.
I think Barack is basically a decent man who truly has Christian values. However, he had the opportunity to choose a different church for over 16 years and chose not to do so.
I have watched him speak many times and admired his speaking abilty and eloquence.
I did notice during his denouncement speech of Reverand Wright that he was looking down and seeming to struggle with getting his words out.
I' think obama is telling the true he did not sit in the church for 20 years you need to go back do your math do you no how many days he would have ben there. stop take out sound bites of obama speech he spoke out today.fox is racists
check out the song "neighbor" by the group Salvador---if we could only all live that song the world would be a better place. check it out:
http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product/?item_no=CD61220&p=1006648#curr
with husaine obamas "great" judgement of people and people's character,the last place i want to picture him sitting is the oval office in janurary or anytime for that matter, unless of course he is interviewing for a cabinet position for mccaine. that may make me a racist i dont know.and another thing , i am religious and if my preacher ever,ever put down the best nation in the world or said G.D. anywhere for any reason but especially on the pulpit or girated his hips that would be the last dealings we would have. reverand wright (i will be referring to him as reverand WRONG) in my my opinion since i am intitled to it is a disgrace to ANY,Amarican, political,religious orginization black white yellow green orange. (at least i made him happy by putting black first) , and who ever sits in the building with him service after service and eats up the B.S. that he is feeding them is just as much a disgrace and anti-amarican as him. they should be ashamed to have him as a "christian" leader and i can barely stand calling him a christian or even a leader for that matter. leaders are supposed to be positive roll models for the folks they are leading .just think about the children in the audience listing to rev. Wrong's racial rants about aids and whatever else . Why not teach children the real real causes of aids like drugs,unprotected sex,and homosexuality .things that are considered blastfomy according to the bible .(no not in a church that would be too far out of the ordinary) people such as reverand Wrong have 1 major problem teaching from the Bible::::: rather than it forwarding his views and beliefs it forwards Gods belief which is something we need more of in this country.Not the views of some guy who is preaching against racism with racism.you dont pour gas on a fire to put it out . Or in this day in age we dont need people preaching anti-amarica, we have plenty of that from the middle east and other parts of the world for that matter . how do you expect to be one or overcome when you have such nonsense goin on. as far as im concerned he is just as good as osama bin ladin . reverand Wrong is as anti amarican as bin ladin he look at everyone who doesnt bend over and kiss his A@@ or agree with his views as infadels. as far as im concerned he is the biggest racist,infadel,and P.O.S. there is . But all this being said i thank God everyday for amarica,for being born an amarican, for our ansestors ,no matter what they did wrong in the past , who fought in great wars to give us liberty and freedom .and i want thank fox news Greta, Bill and hannity YOU ARE ALL GREAT AMARICANS.listen to hannity on the radio every chance i get. watch all of yalls shows every chance get . I am 22 and just about the only person my age i know who listens to AM radio or watches the news channel .imagine what a great country it would be if everyone did so .
Viola, if you know the statistics for criminal activity in politics, you should be very afraid of what has been going on for the last seven years, in the white house. Oh and If I ever run for public office I will be sure to tell someone in my life circle to go public and act and talk like a big fool and make every one angry at me by association, and make a fool of me and themselves, stir up racial tensions and then we can laugh afterwards, I am very afraid of some people out there after reading some of these posts.
Why is it when he doesn't say anything people are against him Obama and when he speaks about being upset and wronged by Rev.Wright the same people are still against him. I'am confused.This is my third time voting in a presidential election and I feel that some people are letting the press sway their votes. They are not paying attention to the facts. The news does not always state fact. So listen to each candidate and their views on how to fix the economy,health care, outrageous gas prices, higher grocery bills, and american'[s keeping there homes. whats wrong with all of you who are stuck on or side tracked by this Rev. Wright back lash. I think it's foolish nonsense that should have been over as soon as it came out.The controversy has no impact on how I will vote.
Well its about time! All I know is this, I am clinging to my relgion like all those people who cling to there guns and relgion are frustrated and yet Obama must be clinging to his church like he has for 20 years because he liked his pastor so much.I feel he is a hipacrite. He has had weeks to denouce this crazy man and yet it was snipbits. You can fool some of people some of time but you cant fool most of the people all the time.
I really think Barack thought the Rev would go quietly into the night as a pastor who cares about his flock would. Even after watching all the sound bits on different news I was shocked at the Rev's remarks yesterday. Unless you have attended a large church I don't think you can fully understand that as a member you may not know exactly what your pastor is made of until put to the test. In that size of a church you don't even know everyone let alone sup with the Pastor. Somehow I really can't see any of my Black friends staying in a church that the sermons are so full of hate and indignation. I live in NC and Barack was here today and I felt he was sincere, shocked and saddened by this whole thing. The one thing he should not have had to worry about was his pastor making him out to be a goverment hating racist. I feel sorry for him. His spokeman said he had watched the replay of the Rev's speech and it had to of hit him hard that this man, a man of God, who performed his wedding as he probably did hundred others, baptized his children and he had hundred others could speak such vile and venom and personally attack him. No, he was sincere in his response and it showed in his countenance. I am a republican and a white female but that is what I saw in this man and I felt he was dismayed. I hope the Rev just goes away and the people of his church rally around Barak and his family. The congregation needs to demand a refund on the tithes they have paid and stop the building of that 10 million dollar mansion.
Obama was basically told what to say and when to say it... Like Rev. Wright said, he's a politician. Senator Obama has mischaracterized Rev. Wright's background and youth when Wright was better off than many Americans.
Rev. Wright was on his campaign's Spiritual Advisory Committee and then booted off but Senator Obama couldn't disown his "uncle" no more than he could his typical white grandmother.
Senator Obama says on a daily basis what will play well with his audience. This latest trick speech shows once again a terrible lack of judgement he has and it's not the type of leadership we should settle for.
Senator Clinton or Senator McCain has my vote!
I feel as if Obama has brought this upon himself, he should have and could have stepped away/denounce him from the first speech he gave. Better yet he could have join another church along time ago. Now, Rev Wright who knows him better than any of us is attacking him and trying to speak for him and Black America. Well, news Flas!!!!! Black America isn't Rev Wright, and Rev Wright isn't Black America. He's just one person with some serious issues that need to be dealt with.
To Susie's comments above--Fox News is very 'fair and balanced' and allow folks like you and me to share our thoughts. What does the color of his mother and grandmothers skin have to do with anything? What grandmother is going to speak poorly of her grandson? Does he attend a white church? No, he prefers to attend a black church. There's nothing wrong with that choice except for the fact that he chose a church and minister who clearly hates whites and jews and any other culture that does not share his (Rev Wrights) views. Barrack Obama reaches out to the black side of his family, the side that played a small role in raising, nurturing teaching and loving him. The black community has placed him on a pedestal and will support him regardless of his attachment to Rev Wright. It's not about who has the best experience or qualifications to run this country, it's ALL about skin color and nothing more. Barack Obama is as big a RACIST as his wife and his pastor --but sharing his true feelings would end his run for President and he knows it... Hopefully white america sees through all of the SMOKE AND MIRRORS!!!
Thank you Bruce Peck, you are so right and a refreshing voice of reason, Reverend Wright is pastor of a very large church and most of his congregation probably likes to see him clown and go there for his dramatic and showy style and antics. He is a buffoon and Mr. Obama probably ignored that stupid side of him. We all have a friend like that and we blow them off as harmless, much to the Chagrin of Mr. Obama
Corinne
Apr 29, 2008 10:55pm ET
Why are the blacks following Obama? He was raised by a white mother, and a white grandmother and white grandfather in white states (Hawaii and Kansas). He went to school at mostly white schools. He is as transparent as a clear piece of glass...... It is politically expedient to be "black" now.
first of all..hawaii is not a "white state!and just cause Barak's mom is white does not make him white. and why can't i as a black man support a black candidate?the past 43 presidents were white so i guess i should follow that status qou?ignorant people like you are what's wrong with this country!!
I can't stop reading.
Hopefully this will be the last comment
One made a comment on this board and asked the following:
Why are the blacks following Obama? He was raised by a white mother, and a white grandmother and white grandfather in white states. It is politically expedient to be "black" now.
I am not an Obama supporter. I am a Clinton supporter; however,
Despite Obama's heritage, doesn't mean that he can not identify with the Black Race, White race, Hispanic Race or any other Race. Obama's heritage, doesn't mean that Blacks can not support him. Ones' race has nothing to do with a canidates ability to affectively run this country in the best interest of ALL AMERICANS.
Good Night
oh it's gotten bad----OBAMA Girl has been seen with bill
and another thing ive not seen in the king james bible anything about a "black church" ive only been taught there is the lord's church .read it youll see.blasfomy...youre not supposed to add to take from gods word to fit political or personal agenda or fulfillment. the lords church is for white people, black people, yellow people ,pink people, green people big people, little people . the bible makes no distinguishing description of who can follow the word , in fact i think it commands everyone to .
If I planned to vote for Obama, I would have to question how a man could sit in church for 20 years and never hear the "message" he was being fed. If he ends up in the White House, God help us all as he will never HEAR or ABSORB anything about running this country.
the bible also says thou shall not kill but that's nit picky
WHEN BLACKS COVER FOR AND MAKE EXCUSES FOR ONE OF THEIR OWN THEN ON THE NEXT BREATH DENOUNCE HIM....YOU CAN NOT TRUST THEM. THEY WILL VOTE FOR A BLACK KNOWING THEY ARE RACIST BECAUSE IT PUTS THEM IN CONTROL AND THEY WANT CONTROL OF THE 80% WHITE PEOPLE MAJORITY'S MONEY, POWER, AND RESOUCES TO EXPLOIT THE WHITE RACE AND ALL THAT AMERICA STANDS FOR. THEY HATE WHITES AND ALWAYS HAVE....LISTEN TO THEM CHANT WHEN WRIGHT SPEAKS. HE IS A MUSLIM...THE SAME AS OBAMA. THE MORE HE SPEAKS ABOUT HATE THE MORE THEY ENJOY HIS BOLDNESS AND LUDICROUS STAEMENTS. IT IS HOW THEY ALL FEEL. BLACKS ARE GOING BACK 200 YEARS AND THIS IS THEIR SECOND COMING OF SLAVERY BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THE MASTERS OF THEIR OWN MIND. WHEN ONE OF THEM MOVES TO THE LEFT, THEY ALL MOVE. THERE ARE A FEW EXCECPTION AND I FEEL FOR THEM. WHAT A HORRIBLE GUILT THEY CARRY BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL IN CHAINS....AND PEOPLE LIKE WRIGHT AND OBAMA KEEP THEM CONFINED. 100 YEARS FROM NOW A BLACK MAN WHO IS HIS OWN SOUL WILL STAND UP AND SAY....I WILL BE YOUR PRESIDENT BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS. 100 YEARS FROM NOW.
Wanda wheres your hood, sheet, and burning cross?
Why didn't Obama divorce his Reverend sooner, because he uses Rev. Wright and the churches to gain his political career. Rev. Wright has a big influence on the black people and its churches. That's why he can't disown Rev. Wright due to the fact that he'll loss all the black supporter. Obama is not a thrustworthy. To me Obama is like a monster that hide in an angle suit. He uses as many people as he can for his own best interest. I feel bad for those who support Obama that didn't know that they're being used. I wonder what is Obama religion prior to 1992? Muslim, maybe?
Hello Amanda
I respect your comments concerning Hillary Clinton; however, I don't agree. It is astonishing to me that you are a Lady but you have made a demeaning remark in general pertaining to women as evidence of saying the following: SHE IS A WOMAN(TALK ABOUT BITCHINESS IN THE WHITE HOUSE) EVERY TIME SHE DOESN'T GET HER WAY THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES ARE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
Even if you do not support her as a canidate, please do not degrade or demean her as a woman. There continues to be a double standard between men and women. When men are direct, he is assertive. When a woman is direct, she is a bitch, aggressive or has an attitude. Women have made a stance to overcome many issues including the following: not being considered property of their husbands, voting rights , owning property of their own, disbanding the rule of thumb that allowed husbands to beat their wives if the rod was no larger than their thumb. expressing ideas and being able to make choices, having equal pay etc...
Respectfully,
Amen mr. zimmerman, And there are many with good points on here, that all proove that something has gone terribly wrong with our country that this guy has even gotten to the point we are all seriously discussing the possibility of him being our president, and that clown as our president,s so called religious leader.
P.S. think obama girl may have been sighted with hillary also :)
I seems that people are just wanting and waiting for an excuse to disavow support of Obama. It seems that only Obama is receiving so much guilt by mere association. This country consistently forgives, or even ignores those negative associations that existed among "white" politicians, even associations of those politicians who were outright and outspoken "racists."
This incessant emphasis on Obama's guilt by association is very suspect and suspicious to me. I believe there may be other forces at play here. I know that sounds very "conspiracy theory," but the timing and circumstances are suspect to me. Not just simply, as you all would love to imply, the truth about Obama coming out. I am not Obama supporter, Clinton supporter, or McCain supporter. I want the best damn person for the job! But I will not allow what appears to be sabotage by former or existing associations to influence my decision. I think "white" America is almost relieved that Reverend Wright, has now all but convinced both "black" and "white" America to make the campaign about his "sabotage," I mean rhetoric. I think "black" America is very upset but to show commitment to "getting along" in America, will go ahead and agree. Just watch the news, especially Fox. I wonder who else is behind this Reverend Wright charade who had a hand in writing the script to give it 15 minutes of fame at the expense of highly qualified candidate. It's too suspicious.
Regardless of Obama's remarks in the past or present concerning his views on Reverend Wright, regardless of whether Reverend Wright had even become an issue, the question asked and comments made at the dinner table, behind closed doors, around the card table, in the private meeting rooms, at the barber shop, at the office, etc. is "do I really want a 'black' man running my country?" or "I'll be damned if I let a 'black man' determine the future of America." I see and hear it in the faces and voices around me, even through the politically correct bulls@%t. It's disturbing. But, that's the history of the United States. What happened to the focus on change? I think most people, mostly baby boomers and older, don't really want change be it Obama or Hillary that ends up winning the Democratic Presidential candidacy.
Regardless of whether you want change or not, this Country is going to change.
Wanda, are you a bigot or just mean?
white people vote John McCain and Hillary Clinton because they are white. you people are such hyprocrites, running around like chickens with your heads cut off "omfg a mulatto is running for President, what will we do?The world in ending." lol
I think this plain SABATOGE on Rev Wright side to destroy OBAMA-- Rev Wright why did he wait now to make all these comments during OBAMA's Campaign...
We Have to Question that 10,000.00 dollar mansion in a white neigborhood---odd for a man with his theology....I wonder who is paying him too Sabatoge Obama the Clinton or McCain camp...I dont think this country is ready for a Black president....sad but true....We need a good president that can put our country back on track...Bring our soldiers home enough is enough....
I guess a small voice of reason was to much for those who are stating just as rev. wright has said I mean I would hate to think that I am on here with a bunch of raciest, mean and just plain ignorant people.It really isn't cool how some of you are basicly slaying Obama by his association with Rev.Wright. I would hate to see what things some of you have in your closet. America is not perfect we all were made to sin and against my ancestors a sin was made. Along with much more other injustice. Am I a a black female suppost to just shrug it of as if it never happen? No but we as a people learn to live with it or just get by.
Well Obama is doing it again, going along with whatever agenda suits him best at the moment. Show me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are. Wright speaks volumes about Obama, add is his wife who seems to be Anti- American and you have .... the best present the republican party could hope for. The democrats did what no republican could ever do, split their own party in half. Good job guys. I say cut Obama loose and try to save the election. However noone will listen to me and I hope they don't, I hope Obama wins this election and moves on to the general election. Im a republican.
Mere Association!!!! Seriously, did you just crawl out from under a rock???
I needed to read no more than that in your comment to realize you are completely clueless curious. we will pray for you.
Good Evening
I do believe that the issue between Pastor Wright and Senator Obama will encroach on the Black Vote during this election. It is unfortunate that Obama can not focus on the campaign; however, I do not believe that Senator Obama's comments mirrored his true thoughts. Senator Obama stated that he was outraged and had never heard Pastor Wright verbalize those types of comments before. I believe that Pastor Wright has demonstrated this type of behavior and demeanor during the twenty years that Senator Obama was a member of his church. Obama made the statement this evening for political reasons only. How can anyone support one who does not have a stance of conviction for 20 years but one who has a stance of verbal appeasement. In the end, it appears as though Pastor Wright was upset due to Senator Obama distancing himself from association of him. I believe that Senator Obama knew of Pastor Wrights beliefs but did not anticipate on Pastor Wright verbalizing them publically.
First you people wanted Obama to denounce Rev.Wright. Now that he have done this you want something else. You Obama Haters will never be happy
no matter what he does. Can someone tell me how can he be racist when he
half white himself. It is ashame that you people, that is white would deny your
own color, just because he has some black in him,if you understand what I am
saying. Unless this is to over you people heads. I am saying that Obama is half black and half white but because some people hate that he is black they will deny the white in him and is that the reason you people
will not believe anything that he says. Obama is not denouncing
wright for just political reasons. Wright was just wrong for the way he has being displaying himself. Not for no other reason,but if he does Hilliary and
McCain have done the same thing. What are you people afraid of if we get
A black man as a President we have had white men forever you guys think that it is only a white person Job. Black people trusted a white person forever.
Stop making excuses people
India this would be the point when I say Objection, on the grounds of Conjecture
Well let's see.
Mr. Obama joined his church as a polictical move. HINT HINT
Mr. Obama sat in the pew for over 20 years , had Rev. Wright marry him, baptize his children, dedicated a book to him, called him his mentor and made comparision to him as an old uncle,and prayed with him before he announced his run for president.
Oh here is the definition of mentor in case anyone doesn't know how to look it up:
Mentor-1. a wise and trusted counselor or teacher.
2. an influential senior sponsor or supporter.
Rev. Wright spews hatred against America and talks in generalities suggesting all white people feel this way some of it had to rub off on Sen. Obama because he called the grandmother who loved, raised, and paid a substancial amount of money to insure that he went to a private school a "typical white woman".
Seems to me that there is more of a relationship than what Mr. Obama is alluding to now. Now Mr. Obama is outraged by the comments. HAHAHA What a joke. Rev. Wright maybe far left in his thinking but he speaks his mind. Sen. Obama is a politician and says what he has to as a politician. CHANGE? No this seems more of the same. So Sen. Obama is a POLITICIAN who has the gift of GAB!
And now that he is LOSING he will say anything to WIN. HINT HINT JUST LIKE ANY POLITICIAN!!!!
Including throwing away the mentor and pastor whom he dedicated a book to!
Seems like your ordinary run of the mill politician to me.
I think the Rev. Wright's motive's need to be question---what does he have to gain by destroying Obama....Hmmmmmmmmmm-funny huh ----I think we need to keep a close eye on rev. wright the next couple of weeks or months....mansion today,,,,car, yaght, tv show, movie, more money and political attention to lure more members to his church.....that equals to more money to be made.....People dont get fooled by the smoke screen...dont get derailed on purpose......let just wait and see.....
Mr., Ms. Mrs. Bruce Peck, if that is all you have to comment I must say that you are still stuck under the rock. Please have more substance and opinion behind you. Even if it is unfounded, absurd, or backwards make it compelling. Or stay buried. I restate the emphasis on mere association. I am not speaking of the personal relationship that Obama may have but the fact that people are looking to disavow even by mere association. Read a little better before you comment. Ooops I forgot, it's probably a little dark under that rock.
George
Your objection of my alledged assumption is duly noted George; however, these are my points of view based on my observations and assessments.
In the end, I want somone to represent the country who will defend us, advocate for us & our best interests etc...
Have a Good Evening everyone
Steve.. typos aside..you know exactly what i meant.inevitable Hillary?? she is down 150 delegates!! are you high???i am not on some bandwagon like you and anyone else voting for Hillary. since 2001 it was being setup for Hillary to go against RUDY,but Rudy messed it up so now the GOP is stuck with McCain.they dont even like that cat!and Hillary is not qualified just cause she was married to Bil..and in case you are to stupid to admit the truth..Barak has been workin as a civil rights lawyer helpin the people of Chicago a,d illinois for over 20 years.but i gues that does'nt count as expereince.other than" a speech"!if have the people on this board used 5 percent of their brain they's have a seziure!!!DAMN ROBOTS!
You can't always take responsibility for another man's word's or action - sometimes we agree and sometimes we disagree ---that's the beauty of being American freedom of choice....We has Americans agreed and disagreed with bush - He made us believe there was weapons of mass destruction in Iraq...Still today there is no evidence --- We lost over 4,000 soldiers and god knows how many returned injured - never will be the same ---But has Americans and a nation we still backed up our president we did'nt denounce him we realected him again....get my message....America is beautiful --no place better than America....IM Proud to be an American
Nimol
Obama was raised by his step father who was a muslim and his mother in Indonesia until the age of 10. His paternal relatives are all muslim.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080108/kenya-obama/
Nimol,
Here is another site to check out-http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/03/obamas-militant-muslim-brother-abongo.html
furious in philly... so if obama is a muslim....what are you saying?? that he must be a terrorist?don't play with words. and his father is muslim,but he is not.what is your real problem with Obama??
Rev Wright, I believe, made 3 comments viewed as controversial, at least thats all the clips I seen run in a loop. I think those statements were unpatriotic, I failed to see the racism some suggest. Now if he'd been making those statements for 20 years where are the witnesses to this? surely you can provide 1 to support your claim, but you haven't which mean you can't. It only boost your arguments against Senator Obama to say it happen without having proof. Now Mr. Wright spoke at the NAACP, those comments weren't very controversial, However the Press event he with beyond controversial, dancing, signifying and even being rude to the host, called Obama a liar in so many words, and Mr. Obama did what many of us have been asking him to do for some time, and that includes Fox News. I applaud him, though I know you still condemn him. You far right wing conservatives aren't gonna vote for him anyway, you rather have John McCain, although you'd prefer someone else, but you're stuck with him, so what the hell, another 100 years in Iraq, Thousands of dead young men in women, Trillion in debt, a failng economy and housing market, health care cost threw the roof, gas 4 bucks a gallon and rising, substandard public schools, unemployment growing.....oh yea all this under a right winged replubican administration. Good Job Guys
Not saying that he is just saying that his father's family was and still is and the reason being is that Sen. Obama won't disclose what religion he was at that time. Usually you are what your parents are as they bring you to their church and such. And I did state that he was with them until 10 then he was sent to live with his grandparents. Specific enough for you.
I think Hillary needs to get her facts together before she speaks---Freedom of speech is beautiful but luying and digging up dirt is terrible....she gets shot at by snipers when she visits a country hmmmmm-White water scandel - hmmmmm.....I just would like the truth before i make my final decision to vote...so confused----i will wait it out....tell the truth please....make me a believer.......Bring our soldiers home --- enough is enough....God bless America
Furious in Philly you do realize the Christian and Muslim religion has the same origin Abraham. They are your brothers
My problem is that the media didn't do its job and give us the true Obama. Granted he is a very eloquent speaker but lacks experience. The more I research because I try to be an informed voter the more I find that alarms me about him. The bills that he supposedly wrote were written by others but he was allowed to sign his name to them. His friendships with questionable people alarm me. Media forgets that he is a white man too who was raised by white people. I feel that he another politicain with the gift of gab and not what this country needs to fix the mess that it is in. I vote experience to get us back to the America that we can be proud of!
And please don't turn this into a racial or religious thing.
I believe with all my heart that all Muslims are NOT TERRORIST and as for the race issue I voted for Mayor Nutter whom I felt was the best candidate in the election.
Is it any probability the Clinton's could have had to do with this "uprising" with the REV? There are picture shown of the Rev and Bill, been on Fox recently!
She would do most anything to get elected.
Connie,
Wright and Obama are now playing
Good Cop...
Bad Cop
with the White Race ! ! !
furious in philly.. you insinuated!! you know what you meant.don't be a coward say it like a man.and Obama has said on numerous occasions that he is a christian.what's the problem dude? you can't hear.or just refuse to listen?
Yes George I do know that and I also know that true Muslims by nature are NOT TERRORIST. Every religion has its fanatics.
Julia glad you mention that, it was a Hillary supporter that invited Rev. Wright to speak at the press event, he wasn't on the agenda initially
I didn't insinuate anything. The question was was Obama a muslim. I didn't say he was I said his step father whom he lived with until he was 10 was. Don't twist my words!
oh and if obama is white cause his mom is.then bruce lee is white since his mom was half german(dad)makin bruce 1/4 white.se how dumb that sounds..CHECK IT FOR YOUSELF.google is your friend.
Xavier,
I did listen. The point is he sat in a pew with a fanatic pastor whose views of the country in which he lived preached vile hate filled venom! And he stayed. Don't you get it! Fanatic
Obama is a Christian I get it. He didn't go to a church that spread equality and love and forgiveness. he went to a church that spewed hatred! I don't think that is what Christ had in mind. And if you do I feel sorry for you.
Did you not read Obama. Obama's mother is white and father is Kenyan.
You want to see him as a black man but his mother makes him white also. At least that how I was taught in school. At least Tiger Woods wouldn't totally disregard his white mother for the sake of endorsements and to sell more products. And for this he has my respect!
Furious in philly.. Tiger's mom is Thai .firsrt of all.and whether Barak heard Rev Wright say whatever in the pews is irrelevant.you think aids came from green mopnkeys?? and before you say where's the proof..there's no proof that oswald had help in killing JFK,but we all kow better!there's no proof that oliver north Ronald reagan and Poindexter did some dirty things in the Iran/contra Scandal,but we all know better!JFK was sleepin with marylyn monroe while she was married to demaggio and his dad Joe WAS a Bootlegger,but we still hold him as a great president.now all of a sudden barak has to be squeaky cleam and beyon reproach?and Barak has no real dirt on him except who his pastor is!!! come on dude!!
Xavier Barack is half black, and that just unacceptable. Nevermind that most Black americans have white blood in them from good ole Massa. Thats right white people we are all brother's and sisters due to our white grandfathers. I wonder if there was a DNA test on white american how many of you would fall in the black category? scary isn't it.... lol
george..my uncle told me over 15 years ago when i was asking questions bout our roots back to the slave days.he said black people dig all in the family tree,but white folk just look at it cause if they shake it a n**** gon fall out!
Obama has so many mirrors and so much smoke I feel like I’m in the “House of Mirrors” at my local carnival…..and it’s on fire…..
I have been a tried and true Dem for many years…..BUT I will suffer the next four years with a Repug in the White House before I “aide and abet” the disilusioned American people with putting Obama there….If I can’t give my vote to the best Dem (Hillary) I will give it to MaCain before I give it to the “Wrong- not Wright” person…….
Wright isn't on the ballot
hey micheal just go on ans say it.you will never vote for a black man.Hillary has no dirt on her?you'd vote for mccain b4 you vote for Barak cause of who he went to church with? is'nt mccain the same man from arizona that blocked MLK day being a state holiday??..woww
You made my point!
And you forgot that JFK was also doing Sam Giancanna's mistress.
So that means that we should forgive Bill Clilnton his fat Monica right?Or is is that Bill Clinton can't be forgiven because Monica wasn't a starlet and thin!
He has no dirt because the media didn't do its job for fear of being called racist ( as his campaign has been so easy to do even if the comment soen't warrent it)
How about Ayers and Rezko, can you buy a mansion for half price? How about putting his name to bill he didn't write? How about 30,000 to a church that is racist and you can't deny that Let one of the white candidates attend a church that condemns blacks like Rev. Wright has. In my opinion, Church is for religion not politics. Christ promoted love and even equality but not his church.
And no it is not irrelevent what he heard in those pews! Obama wants to be president of America and sat and listen to hate filled propaganda and he didn't LEAVE, that is relevent to me! It is relevent that he may have heard Rev. Wright sermon about 911. That in my opinion is a total disrespect for all the people who lost their lives that day. Those were people going to work to feed their families. The victims were someones fathers, mothers, sons, daughers, and friends. Heartless is what I call it.
Ok Xavier, tell me why did Obama suddenly drop him from the program? Because he knew he was going to be a liabitlity thats why. So he had the B*lls to sit in the pew for 20 years but not the B*lls to stand beside Rev. Wright when the crap hit the fan. I too if I was Rev. Wright would be pissed. As I am sure that Rev. Wright's influence got him some votes and backers!
Furious you upset about 9/11? then why no outrage for te 4000 dead soliders in Iraq for Oil under the guise of WMD's?
In reference to Obama's so-called "speech", I thought it was very telling that all he addressed was that he didn't agree with Wright's comments....etc..etc.....That was it....It was all about him and I'm surprised he didn't pout...maybe stamp his foot and say "why can't I just be left alone". All of a sudden, after 20 years and in the middle of a presidential campaign, he decides that Wright says the wrong things?? Obama is very arrogant, has a condescending manner and it's pretty obvious he's out of touch with ordinary people.. I believe the American public is much smarter than what he gives them credit for.
If political move and "cya" are identical, then yes it was a political move
Xavier,
You fess up. You keep attacking people by saying it is a race issue. With me it is NOT!
You tell me why you want Obama for president.
Issues and accomplishment (his own), and how he vote is what I am looking for. In other word specifics.
kennedy had to diss sinatra for polital reasons same as obama
George,
That wasn't the question. And yes I am furious and upset over it. But I am also one that thought that Pres. Bush drug his feet and should have acted sooner to honor the lives of the civilians that were killed.
furious my point is..that Bill was a great president! the monica thing meant not a damn thing to me.the man got some head from a another woman so what!that aint my business.that's betwwen him and hillary.Jfk did great things for this country but if he ran today we would be fried cause of the way people are Robots and can't make a decision on their own!everything rev wrhitght said imo was the truth.this government is ran by corrupt greedy people.like all governments in history.but if you speak against it you are UNAMERICAN? what happpened to descent(sp)?? can a man/woman critisize the government without being unpatriotic or is that part of the constitution null and void now days?
No-BAMA!
He REALLY thinks we (American people) are STUPID! to think we buy this is ridiculous...Is his wife PROUD now!?!?
The venom Rev Wright has been spitting over the last few weeks, couldn't have happened over-night. I find it hard to believe that these comments were never uttered in the presence of Sen Obama over the "past 20 years". This candidate has more than likely been affected by this man.
political ------ sorry
THE FUNDAMENTAL FOCUS OF CHRISITAN BELIEFS ARE "LOVE THY NEIGHBOR". IF OBAMA WAS AT A TRUE CHRISTIAN CHURCH HE WOULD KNOW THAT HATE IS WRONG. HE SPENT 26,000 DOLLARS LAST YEAR TO SUPPORT THIS CHURCH THAT FOLLOWS "BLACK LIBERATION POLICIES"
WRIGHT QUOTES THIS MAN OFTEN. SEE WHAT THEY STAND FOR:
The following is from James Cone, the father of "Black Liberation Theology":
"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."
NO BLACK CHRISTIAN CHURCH IN DETROIT WOULD PREACH SUCH HATRED.
OBAMA IS A BIGOT. HE KNOWS WHAT HIS CHURCH REPRESENTS.
Hey, Xavier....
I have no problem with black people, I have many .....but of course ANYONE who says they won't vote for the "FAKE" OBama is automatically a racist......OH PLEASSSSSSeeeee.....give it a break...
America is in a bad state as it is ......we DO NOT need someone in the White House ONLY because he's CHARISMATIC and able to read a speech somebody else wrote !!!!!
B. Hussain Obama has heard Wright's messages for 20 years and has never heard Wright's American dessention before? I think Obama is hiding more that will be revealed later on which will show his true political immaturity. America does not need either Democrat candidate's inexperience.
Furious you run down what Hillary did and ill run down Barak's!! don't play dumb.and Hillary made this about Race not me or Barak.you can get on that computer of yours and pull up his senate record(state and national) just like i can.so don't insult me.and i ALREADY stated the man was a civil right attorney in chicago that's how he came up.same as Hillary(so called)but she has a a former President for a husband ,that kinda helps for so called experince.oh and SHE GOT SHOT AT BY SNIPERS TOO.SO DOES THAT COUNT AS WARTIME EXPERIENCE?.
I agree Bill was a great president and people forget that. I'd vote for him again! And I do see things with JFK as you do. I believe some of your views on the government also. I also agree that you can speak out against the goverment. THAT IS WHY WE ARE AMERICAN and EVERYONE HATES US! But what I don't agree with is usiing the guise of a church to spew your hate filled views. I don't agree that if you want to be president of the US you shoud SIT IN THAT PEW!! I also don't agree that if Sen. Obama is such a smart and intellegent man that he wouldn't have seen this as being used against him.So how smart is he really. As he only joined the church for political reason -his words well did he think that maybe the message of that church should have been something that he should have consider if he had aspirations of one day becoming president!
Please stop following Rev. Wright. You are letting his ego (VERY BIG EGO) go wild. He doesn't seem to care who he hurts as long as his face is up front on a screen somewhere. Please let Obama get on with his campaign. I know he has some interesting things to tell us and he hasn't had a chance since this old guy is raving every time he gets a chance to be on TV. I'm sick of him.
I'm not even shocked by what Mr.(not Rev.) Wright is saying, but I am shocked that Obama is shocked and has his feelings hurt. How many times do you think that when they were together they talked about the same things Mr. Wright's talking about. I believe Obama is now backpeddling and trying to see if anyone will believe him....not me! He can't even pick his head up and look straight into the press camera's without looking guilty. My vote has now officially changed. I don't trust his words, remember Obama was the one who said "words matter"! They only matter if they are true and I don't think Obama's words are true!
michael....."we DO NOT need someone in the White House ONLY because he's CHARISMATIC and able to read a speech somebody else wrote !!!!!"........................................................................so what's Bush's excuse????
Oh and Obama NEVER heard Rev. Wrights vile spewed hatred either. I asked for you to convince me to vote for your candidate! And who said I was for Hillary another assumption on your part. And it aint about race. I have vote for the best candidate in my opinion REGARDLESS of their RACE!
Rev Wright has obviously received payment for these comments or alzs just kicked in. Maybe the Rev is off his meds either way it was definately a sideshow. I just think he sold the ticket first.
furious in philly....when did Barak say he joined trinity for political reasons?? please tell me casue i watch the news EVERYDAY and i have never heard that one!
Obama had 20 years to get brainwashed by this so called reverend. I'm still waiting for the video clip to come out from a few years back showing this Rev Wright delivering the speeches we've only heard in the last few weeks, and Obama sitting there in the pew soaking it all up.
fuirous in philly you riding with McCain?? you call me crazy? his own party don't want him!
EXACTLY Xavier.....look what Bush has done.......Can you imagine four more year of Crap on top of the last eight years of crap.......Come on and see the light of day
This is a great example of showing our children - you are identified by who you choose to surround yourself with.
There is no question that Obama is a smart and exciting candidate - however because of HIS choices of whom he chose to associate himself with, he may lose the nomination of his party.
It is obvious he is frustrated, but he must not point fingers at others - he is the one that chose to continue this 'relationship' over the past 20 years.
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As for Hillary - did anyone notice that when she was running for Senate and as a current Senator she went by Hillary 'Rodham' Clinton - then when she started out her campaign for President she went by 'Hillary' - and then when she started losing support, she started going by Hillary Clinton.
Just an interesting observation.
michael that's why i'm voting for Obama Cause i have a brain ad can make up my own mind instead of letting foxnews and tell me what to do.
You Obama haters literally make me ill. These polls are so useless and assinine. These are FOX channels sheep who are going to answer the poll with a negative answer so it's not even close to being what the american people think. I hope you get exactly what you deserve by putting Hillary in the White House.....she's a freakin' crook and a liar. McCain can be her VP so he can be her whipping post. This country can go down the shitter and take Juan Williams (jealous blackman), Karl Rove (Nixon clone), Sean Hannity (bigot, racist, fudge packer) Bill O'Reilly (pedophile), Greta Van Susteren (with her lopsided lips), Geraldo Rivera (womanizer), Chris Mathews (wannabe politician) and Joe Scarborough (Hillary lover) with it.
Keep asking those dumb @$$ questions with your typical spin. You'll find out soon enough nobody will be listening to you. Losers!!
"The apple doesn't fall far from the tree".
erica.. my very best and oldest friend of 30 plus years is a drug dealer.I DO NOT AGREE WITH HIS LIFESTYLE.but he is the closeest thing to family without being blood.the media and sean Hannity blew this up.
I don't know about the rest of you voters that DONT have the "wool pulled over their eyes" by Obama......but I really hope Rev Wright Comes back into the news in the next day or two to repute what Obama said about him and of him......Maybe he'll start uncovering some skeletons in Obama closet.....I'd bet there's a mini graveyard there...............
No I'm not ridin McCain. I am still undecided if you must know.
Obama joined Wright's growing church in part to deepen what one friend called "a whole web of relationships" in the community that gave him a strong political base and a well-connected mentor.
Above is the quote that I heard! So you must have missed it that day!
So tell me what can your man do for me? And why should I vote for him?
Okay, I do not what the Clintons back in the white house, with Bill chasing interns around the Oval Office when Hillary's away. John McCain? hmmm we can't afford 4-8 more years of a right winged republican adminstration, 50-100 years in Iraq...etc etc, also lets not forget about Federal Judiciary. If the Supreme Court goes any further right, big brother with have all our homes bugged and phones tapped. Honestly, I don't know if Barack Obama will be a good President, but I "hope" he will, he's promised to bring the troops home from Iraq and focus on finding Bin Laden for 9/11, (A+) also promised to stop corporate welfare (A+), higher fuel standards(A+), improving public education (A+) Lobbyist reform (A+) improved trade policies (A+) stop giving tax breaks to companies that ship jobs over seas (A+) to change immigration policies (A+) an added benefit will be Federal Judicuary appoints, to bring the courts back towards the center, (AAA+)
Dr Wright smartly manipulated the separation of Obama from his spiritual friend Wright at the best time left between now and November in an attempt to help rather than hamper Obama's electability.
erica.. i told a friend the other day about the Rodham drop.. good point. i 100 percent agree on that!!
Xavier, if you called your drug dealer friend your "MENTOR", I wouldn't vote for you either. : )
Nothing of the debate between Mr. Obama and the Rev. Wright should surprise anyone.
Who does Mr. Obama thinks he is kidding - the American Public is not that
stupid. Nobody can spend 20 years in a church with a radical like Rev. Wright
and not understand his position. Rev. Wright is NOW trying to protect his
INCOME and Mr. Obama is trying to protect his electability. Does this surprise
anyone?????
Did he know about the stuff Wright said before Obama started running for office? WHO F*CKING CARES? Wright isn't the one running, Obama is. Obama hasn't done anything whatsoever to suggest that he believes or endorses any of the things this wacko pastor has said, so get on board with Bill O'Reilly, people! Give the man a break! It seems clear that Pastor Wright originally brought Obama to his faith, and if any of you people ACTUALLY go to church, you'd know that a church doesn't revolve exclusively around the head pastor.. The congregation plays a role, the outside ministries of the church as well as other ministers within the church are equally as important. And, heh, clarification.. People continue to criticize Obama for "allowing his girls to sit in the pews while Wright was speaking etc.." This tells me that NOBODY HERE REALLY GOES TO CHURCH! Obama's girls would have been in SUNDAY SCHOOL, just as I was as a little girl, being taught Bible verses and playing games while memorizing scripture. Kids don't sit in the main congregation, DUH!
So, as it appears that Obama's faith was quite important to him, it seems that he was reluctant to denounce Wright because 20 years ago, Wright was the one who inspired Obama's search for salvation. But people can change, and (as he's gotten older) Wright may have gone a bit off his rocker in the last decade. That's not Obama's fault; as a person who actually GOES to church, I understand how Obama could still feel attached to Wright as the instigator of his own salvation- but now, I think Obama has realized that there's no excuse for this guy and he has to cut him loose, pastor or not. Whether or not Obama realized during the last decade that the head pastor was going a bit off is absolutely irrelevant. Associate pastors could have preached wonderful sermons that he and his wife enjoyed. He participated in prison mininstries with the church and other outreach, and his girls probably enjoyed their Sunday School program (where they would not have ever heard Wright speak; keep that in mind.) So he didn't want to uproot his family from the congregation and ministries they were now used to, despite the fact that the head pastor might occasionally say some weird things (And keep in mind that Wright wasn't the one speaking every Sunday- In a church that large, they've got several associate pastors alternating the weekly message). That's the plausible scenario in which he did realize that Wright was saying some crazy stuff. But as Obama has said, he really didn't hear these totally offensive things in church and wanted to give Wright the benefit of the doubt, but now Wright's on a rampage and it's inexcusable. He did say that he knew Wright to be a rather firey preacher- I can tell that one from watching Wright's greatest hits being looped on TV. Obama saw the Rolling Stone quotes that caused him to think twice about having Wright as a speaker for an event. But it's very easily possible that in the early years of his churchgoing, such inflammatory statements were not being made, and out of reverence for the pastor that brought him to God, Obama did not want to throw him under the bus in the public sphere.
But now he can't avoid it; Wright's undone himself and Obama's got to make it clear that the guy is a kook who doesn't represent his campaign. Regardless of any of this, Obama hasn't done anything yet to suggest that he believes any of the things Wright had to say, whether he heard them or not! That's the important issue- not whether he "heard" Wright say any of this BS, but whether he believes any of it! Now Hillary, on the other hand, has already flat-out lied in public about Bosnian sniper fire that never happened; Obama hasn't done anything of the sort to question his character, and neither has McCain.
Let's get over the stupidities of Wright and back on track to the REAL issues in this election.
furious i can't tell you who to vote for first all.you are a grown man.you can figure that out for yourself. i know far as i'm concerned.Barak is the new kid on the block meaning he has been in long enough tbe corrupted by everyday washington politics so he might actually get some work done! i can tell you one reason i am not voting for Hillary.. if she can't finance her campaign properly,what is she gonna do with a natinal budget?? and far as mccain..we don't need to be in Iraq for a 100 years!!
Krista.......Who are you kiddinfg .....Obama LIES at every turn , he's just better at not getting caught because he does it so well
ronp..that was cute..i never said he was my mentor.i grew up with him and at the end of the day we know eachother better than anyone else.just so happens we got grown and led different lives. and Rev wright is not a criminal.whether you like him or not.OLIVER(I DO NOT RECALL) NORTH IS!!!
MICHAEL how do you know Obama is lying if he has'nt been caught??
You in the media have had a great time breaking a man that can finally make a difference in America. You are also proving that unless you are a part of the politics as usual you will probably be torn apart, not by the candidate opposing you, but by the media. Why aren't you asking questions of Senator Clinton about Bills behavior and why she is still with him? Also, they have made a fortune since leaving office, a considerable amnount of this is from foreign countries, WHY? You will probably do like most of the media and ruin Obama's chances in the primary Tuesday then say oh well we were wrong, and again it will be too late.
Lets say you were hanging out with a bunch of drug dealers. What would people think of you?
Let's see who Sen Obama has been known to hang around with:
Anthony Rezko- slumlord contributed and sold Obama a mansion for half cost, the house that were condemned are in Sen. Obama's district.
Rev. Wright- Preaches hate filled predjuces against anyone other than black
Bill Ayers-Former leader of Weather Underground (group that bombed buildings)
Rashid Khalidi- pro-Palestinian activist (Obama approved generious grants to the Arab American Action Network which was headed by Khalid's wife) The AAAn have attacked Isreal's rights to exist.
Now this is what I am talking about! My Momma always told me lay down with dogs wake up with flees. It ain't just one thing!
Obama associates with far left wings for me to feel comfortable with him!
Lets say you were hanging out with a bunch of drug dealers. What would people think of you?
Let's see who Sen Obama has been known to hang around with:
Anthony Rezko- slumlord contributed and sold Obama a mansion for half cost, the house that were condemned are in Sen. Obama's district.
Rev. Wright- Preaches hate filled predjuces against anyone other than black
Bill Ayers-Former leader of Weather Underground (group that bombed buildings)
Rashid Khalidi- pro-Palestinian activist (Obama approved generious grants to the Arab American Action Network which was headed by Khalid's wife) The AAAn have attacked Isreal's rights to exist.
Now this is what I am talking about! My Momma always told me lay down with dogs wake up with flees. It ain't just one thing!
Obama associates with far left wings for me to feel comfortable with him!
Xavier - Exactly right you didn't say he was your "Mentor". Obama did say Wright was his. You don't have to do something criminal to have your character called into question. I think Obama has been influenced by this so called Reverend. The Presidency isn't something I take lightly. This position demands someone with unquestionable character. Therefore I vote none of the above this year. : )
furious in philly.. so all your frineds and family are 100 percent clean??? do you cast em out cause peopl tell you to?the rezko thing is childish.REZKO is goint to jail not Barak.that's why that is'nt even news anymore cause it was low brow!!!
Oh please Xavier.......Obama "didn't know " of Wright's views..AFTER 20 YEARS......Obama took back his invite to Wright to the anoucement speech of his running for Pres....but NOW Wright is hiding in the basement and their praying together seconds before Obama went upstairs....COME ON !!!!
Ronp.. unquestionable charachter??? name a president from the past 60 years with a clean characther other than Carter!!! just one!!!
michael..i'm grown enough to know i am not votin for the man's preacher!!.there are people votin for Hillary cause they think that will be a way to get Bill back in office.THAT'S RETARDED,but it's true..i'm voting for the MANnot his associates!!
Michael- Obama lies at every turn? Gotta back that up. I've been watching Fox and CNN coverage of all of this (primarily Fox, actually) and haven't noticed anything other than the controversy over whether Obama "knew" about Wright's recent ideology blowup. What other "lies" are you speaking of?
Xavier - Ronald Reagan. But I dont have a time machine to go back and vote for him again, and Obama surely wont get my vote this election.
Krista.. there are no lies other than the one Sean Hannity tells..he reminds me of twiggy from Buck Rogers!just a Gop Robot.
Lets have one standard for all... Barack know Rezko, Bush knows Scotter Libby and pardon that convicted felon and made jokes about it. Oliver North wounldn't snitch on Reagan and went to prison.... now he's a national hero. Bill did not have sex with that woman....
Ronp...REAGAN???? ARE YOU SERIOUS???????oh game over!!
i know you're nuts now.all this hell we are in now is cause reagn/bush.sellin iran and afganistan all those weapons.puttin saddam in office.oh don't even go there!
GEORGE I LIKE YOU!!!you forgot one....tricky Dick is not a crook!!
Xavier - Wake up and smell the coffee, or stop smokin your friends stash. That took place AFTER he was elected. Obama is still a candidate and having character issues. Is that all you can come up with, is character flaws AFTER candidates were elected?
Ronp..keyword "after" as in when he was was in office and when bush sr took over.
According to Xavier, we should of let Iran win the Iran-Iraq war. You think Iran is a threat now, Think if we would of just stood by and let them beat Iraq. Wake up bro.
Let me get this straight.. the standard is commit the crimes after you're elected and we'll give you a pass? I see now
Shirley- I'm with you all the way. (And I'm an Independent, not a "leftist-looney" or anything of that sort, for everybody else. And a proud pro-lifer!) This is a media charade, totally irrelevant garbage, stuff that was deliberately dug up as "dirt" on Obama (and by his own party!) to throw off the election and make this a debate over utter stupidity rather than issues. Economy? NO! REVEREND WRIGHT!!!!! Um, gas prices? Housing crisis? Social security? Uh.. IRAQ? NO! REVEREND WRIGHT!!!!! How freaking stupid can you get? This entire thing is completely ridiculous, as an Independent I can see that- I don't vote or affiliate along party lines. Abraham Lincoln predicted that we would revert to divisive party politics; that's all this is. A chance for the right, or for Hillary, or *whoever* to get a jab in at Obama that has absolutely no real substance compared to what we should be considering in a presidential campaign.
and let's not even get into the the border issue..the 9/11 boys camein thru canada..why are we puttin a fence on the mexican side????
No George, the question is a candidates character. Noone can predict what they will do when in office. If a CANDIDATES character is ALREADY in question, just another reason to weigh the options. If you don't think Obama's affiliation with Rev Wright means anything, then so be it. Personally I find it hard to believe that this "Mentor" of Obama hasn't influenced his views. Therefore I shall vote the way I want.
Ronp.. you nkow Reagn's charachter from the iran/contra scandal..and you said you would vote for him agin if he was alive.make up your mind.
We have all been influenced by something, the question as one matures in life, and upon reflection do we " as individuals" choose who we are, and what we represent. Judge Barack for his actions, not the actions of someone else. Isn't that fair enough?
Xavier- Yep I would again and again. What was my other choice? Walter Mondale?
george judging a man by his OWN actions is too much like Right for some people.
Agree...but you seriously think that Obama sat in this mans church for 20 years and even wrote a book inspired by this man, and hasn't been influenced by his spiritual teachings?? come on...
Ronp so you admitedly would vote for a dishonest bastard like Reagan gaian and again? well i see you are'nt the sharpest knife knife in the drawer.
Xavier- You are a troubled man. Why do you call Reagan dishonest? Because he ran an operation to overthrow the Ayatollah, and get our hostages released from Iran? Because he suppliled arms to Iraq to fight Iran? I'd say that Reagan had power insight on what Iran would become.
Ron..REAGAN SOD IRAN THOSE GUNS AND BOMbS and put saddam in power!!!and you call obama supporters dumb???
Xavier, Hopefully you never become a hostage in a foreign country and the president has to make a decision to sell that country some arms to get your butt back to the states. You call him dishonest? You sir need to get your facts straight. Oliver North diverted the funds of those arms sales to the Sandanista rebels fighting communists in Nicaragua (without Reagan knowing).. Both men are true Americans, that did what they could to protect Americans.
Ronp..you belive that lie!!
Xavier- I called Obama supporters dumb? I may think you are dumb, but dont start telling lies now.
Xavier... There was no iran/contra scandal, except in the eyes of liberals, and they were just wrong. in conservative circles Reagan did the correct thing, thus, no scandal. You probably don't think there was a Clinton/Sandy Berger scandal when they stole classified documents and destroyrd them. Conservatives think that was a big scandal. I think what Regean did was not only the correct thing to do, but the best thing to do.
Ronp think Reagn was agood honest nam and you call Obama supporters dumb,you need a psych evaluation.
Okay the 20years of hate statement. I seriously doubt Rev Wright feed his congregation a continous diet of hate for 20 years... I don't believe Barack or 9,999 other memebers would have sat still for that. If that were the case, there would be more clips running in a loop. The clips we're seen were all within the past 1-2yrs, Barack has been on the campiagn trail most of this time and would not have been there to hear these statements. I found the GD amercia statement offensive and Mr. Wright needs to ask white and black america for forgiveness. The chickens coming home to roost was also inappropriate and hurt to most of us, white and blacks alike. I didn't see any racist statments, or atleast any that offended my senseabilities. I don't believe the Trinty church is about hate. I believe its more about uplifting black people... people that have suffered here in america...told they are inferior, ugly, dumb... and worth less than a dog. Kill a dog and go to prison...kill a black man and get a pass. To be candid.. when I'm with my black friends yes we talk about white people...as I'm sure white people do the same. I don't know anyone that hates white people because they're white... I know good white people and bad ones too, just as I know good black people and bad ones. I judge people by what they do, not what they say, because even your friends will lie to you.
Xavier - Reagan was a good honest man. Check your local colleges for a class called "English Comprehension". After you finish the class, scroll up and tell me where I called Obama supporters dumb.
Oliver north also has his agent sell cocaine to South Central LA that started the crack problem in the 80's, They did this to double the money to buy more guns for the rebels. he admitted this. It is believed he did this with Ronald Reagan full knowledge. When pressed about Reagan he took the 5th, took one for the team for which he is now regarded as a american hero
George... That was pathetic, try again, but this time, try thinking first. Diarrhea of the mouth when your brain is constipated just isn't working for you.
Wright and Obama are both narcissistic, just two different types. Obama gets his feelings of superiority by being chosen by men he admires and sees as powerful (dad), Wright gets fed by being the chooser. Obama has eclipsed Wright now, and Wright's fragile ego has been wounded. Wright struck out at Obama, which wounded Obama's fragile ego. He then immediately had to call an entire press conference to discuss HIS hurt feelings, HIS betrayal, and to tell the world that what angered him most was what "Wright said about ME." He's not upset about the anti-American comments, the racist comments Wright has made. No. He's most angry about what Wright said about HIM, personally, and he thinks that is more important than Iraq, the economy, or any of the concerns of the American people he COULD have given a speech about. They are both self-absorbed, power-hungry, fragile little boys.
Ronp..either you are niave to Reagans dirt.or you approove of his criminal activity.either way.people like you are the reason this country dealt with Dubya his daddy and his daddy's buddy!!
I watched the iran-contra hearings
George, are you really Rev Wright in disguise?
george i saw it too.we had to watch it in school..you know what Oliver north's Testimony was..."I DO NOT RECALL".AND POINDEXTER'S DUMB ASS SAT THERE AND GOT TOOK THE WHOLE BITE HIMSELF LIKE A FOOL!!
Sorry I denouce Rev. Wright
R. Reagan did NOTHING WRONG. O. North did NOTHING WRONG. They both did their duty. Only ignorant liberals thought their heroic actions were wrong, because cowardly, guttless liberals always hate it when Americans lives are saved by American action!
These two fools (Xavier & George) don't speak for the majority of Democratic feelings. Obama should be judged on his own merit, not the Rev's. I am still undecided on the whole issue.
DemForLife... Obama should be judged on his own merit .... You must be refering to his extreme lack of judgement. ------------------ If it took him 20 years to figure out Wright, he has NO judgement or merit.
DEMFORLIFE.. I speak for myself. and im not a democrat.i don't do tbloods and crips thing.i make my own desciisions.you are the fool just makin that assinine insult towards me and george.
I'm not a democrat. I personally believe that the 2 party system should be dismantled. Replaced by one party for the people, by the people
Obama is crooked, and his mind has been warped by his "Spiritual Mentor" for the past 20 years. Just as someone above posted "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree" and "Lay down with dogs, Wake up with flees".
george once again that's too much like right.if you take away the 2 party system people can't make up their own minds without someone tellin them which way to go.
does anyone here speak for themselves, or do you all just repeat the Fox talking points?
and since everybody wanna talk about lying down with dogs.. why is mccain all buddy buddy with Bush when it is known they don't like each other?????
So what if he has bad judgement. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. If Obama even thinks for a second that whites deserve a little pay back. As long as he keeps that to himself, he can still be a strong candidate.
Hold on guys ... take it easy ... Here is something we can all agree on ... Obama and Wright are both Con men snake oil salesmen. They prove it every time they open their mouths and the lies gush forward. They can't help themselves. They are just habitual liars.
DemForLife and you called me a fool...lol
True... they are snakes.
and Dubya is the big anaconda!!!
Why do you say that George?
Obama campaign is falling apart like a k-mart shirt. Due to his racist remarks projected through his pastor.
read your 3:20am statement again and see if it comes to ya
wow someone loves me so much they named themselves after me.i feel honored.
say what you want but i have a mind of my own and am not afraid to think for myself unlike others.
Umm yeah. So what? If Obama can keep his personal feelings to himself (which he has done so far). Does it really matter? I'd rather have a black man that hates whites in office than a white man that loves war.
mindless sheep.
What did Rev Wright say that was racist?
Dem For life ... I'd rather have a black man that hates whites in office than a white man that loves war. -------------That proves you are an idiot.
demforlife..wow..i wouldnt want anybody in office that hates another race.i may not like what some white people think or do,and i have been called the "n"word by white people.i dont hate no man! that is a useless emotion.
If he keeps his feelings to himself it should be o.k.
George, wouldn't it be much easier and take up MUCH, MUCH, MUCH less space on the blog if you sited his one sentence that wasn't racist?
Seriously, what did he say that was racist? I know he said things that were unpatriotic, and insensitive to 9/11, but what did he say that was racist? I keep seeing people repeating that
Wright said
"Jesus was a poor black man who lived in a country and who lived in a culture that was controlled by rich white people."
racist?
I was being serious. Every word out of his mouth is filled with distain for white people. If you can't see that you are blind.
So its not what he said, but his tone?
funny how they say obama and wright are rascist when they have white members.and white people defending both of them.that white guilt is a terrible thing.as soon as a black man tell the truth white people say.you're playin the race card.leave it in the past.but like i said i've been called the "n" word and not 10 20 years ago less than 5 years ago.let's not even talk about Rush Limbaugh and dog the bounty hunter.
Or Wright's other quote "The white government invented the AIDS virus as a means of genocide against the black population".
Wright said "Jesus was a poor black man who lived in a country and who lived in a culture that was controlled by rich white people." racist?..........HOW IS THAT RASCIST? THE ROMANS WERE WHITE AND JESUS WAS BLACK!
Leave the dog outta this!
aids virus was made to kill gays and blakc people .but they forgot gays sometimes have sex with straight men and women and black peole sometimes have sex with white people.and b4 anybody say a word..answer this ..where did aids come from??you think it just popped out of thinair? oh i know it came from green monkeys..who had sex with the monkey??
leave the dog out of this why?? did he not make a brazen rascist comment on tape.. just like Mark Furhman..opps i was'nt suppose to mentin officer furhman was i?
comparing Rev Wright to Jesus? hahaha You F'n moron. haha
hmmm, not touching the Jesus was black theory. I believe God created all of us, so as far as that goes race is a non issue. Secondly, since most black american decend from white people (you know slavery and all) we're all bothers and sisters. And I love you... may not agree with you 100%, but I still love you.
Blacks had sex with the monkey and brought AIDS over. But we are talking about Obama not AIDS.
Oh no another George
My monkey comment. Didn't look for another active George in the room.
wow
Maybe your jesus was black. Mine is white.
carlos..where in the bible was jesus white?"hair of wool skin of bronze"!!!
Pay no attention to Xavier and George, Their only purpose here is to re-direct the topic and bring up the race card. They choose not to stick to the facts. 1.) Obama can put his feelings about whites aside and be a good candidate. 2.) Rev wright is a psycho. 3.) Xavier is a homo. 4.) George dresses like a lady on Saturday nights........ Those are the issues gentlemen. Lets stick with them.
I saw it in 'Passion of the Christ'. i'm sure your nubian bible says different than my bible.
I reject and denounce DemForLife.
People of limited intelligence always result to name calling
demforlife you were talkin all that jazz bout being a christian but you call me a homo and george a cross dresser?? hipocrite maybe?? i think so....oh by the way....................."12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. 16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength."
carlos you saw it in the passions of christ?? what are you 12?? and i suppose moses looked like heston,and Cleopatra look like liz taylor?
You need to read wikipedia a little further you might see... "He had an olive-tinted complexion, "the color of wheat." One Publius Lentulus is supposed to have described him as perfectly beautiful in features, with "hazel-coloured" hair that flowed to his shoulders, and a forked beard. His eyes continually "change their color." Epiphanius Monachus provides a similar description, in which Jesus is six feet tall, golden haired, with black eyebrows, light brown eyes and swarthy skin "like David's."
anyone can edit wikipedia
wikipedia???? you are'nt even refering to the bible? you got your info from WILIPEDIA????
All of this talking about who F*cked who, and what fag gave what monkey aids, is getting away from the undeniable fact that both Obama and Wright are low life F-ing bags of skunk sh it, not worth the effort to piss on if they were on fire.
swarthy---
swarthy
One entry found.
swarthy
Main Entry:
swar·thy Listen to the pronunciation of swarthy
Pronunciation:
\ˈswȯr-thē, -thē\
Function:
adjective
Inflected Form(s):
swar·thi·er; swar·thi·est
Etymology:
alteration of obsolete swarty, from swart
Date:
1587
: of a dark color, complexion, or cast
— swar·thi·ness noun
Don't pull your facts out of Wikipedia. Who cares what color Jesus was, It's people like you that tottally miss the message and say "He was black", "White romans killed him" Dont mention who forced the hand of the romans.. more supposed blacks? Get a life. Noone is out to get you brutha.. Uncle whitey doesn't have it in for you. Do something PRODUCTIVE with your life and time instead of blaming "Whites" for your problems. We are sick of hearing it.
calm down dude...lol
who's blaming whites? are you reading the same blog?
Xavier , You got your info from Wikipedia. Next time you copy and paste take out the footnote references you moron. I posted what you failed to include in your post. Now look who copied and pasted from Wikipedia --------> XAVIER
CARLOS DON'T GET MAD AT ME CAUSE YOU GOT YOUR INFO FROM MEL GIBSON AND WIKIPEDIA..I GOT THE DEFINITION OF SWARTHY FROM MERRIMAN WEBSTER AND THE BIBLE VERSES FROM ..the BIBLE..YES THE BIBLE WOW OF ALL PLACES TO GET INFO FROM I CHOSE A BIBLE?? WHAT WAS I THINKIN??
Blacks definately aren't the color of "wheat".. haha
All of this talking about who F*cked who, and what fag gave what monkey aids, is getting away from the undeniable fact that both Obama and Wright are low life F-ing bags of skunk sh it, not worth the effort to piss on if they were on fire.
REVELATION 12-16 IN CASE YOU HAVE ENOUGH MOXI TO CHECK FOR YOURSELF.
Yah from the bible, with all the same reference numbers [14],[15] etc that is in Wikipedia. Not only a fake but a liar.
You get that from Wikipedia also? You fake. haha
All of this talking about what F*cking color JESUS f*cking CHRIST was or who he f*cked or what fag f*cked what monkey with aids, is getting away from the undeniable fact that both Obama and Wright are low life F-ing bags of skunk sh it, not worth the effort to piss on if they were on fire.
CARLOS JUST SHUT UP. seriously..if you have enough sense to check the facts, you'd see how big of an ass your makin of yourself.just cause you say i'm qoutin wikip[edia is not gonna convince anyone else readin this casue got computers too..some even have their own bible!!
Then i challenge them all to go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_of_Jesus and check for themselves and they will see that you copied and pasted the exact same thing in.
omg he did! Too funny!
carlos you are a clown.or a child and if you are a child then you need to be in bed...do you have a bible?? you might wanna look at it.
Who is the fool now? You fake.
http://kingjbible.com/revelation/1.htm
He got ya there Xavier.
nobama..no he did'nt look it up!!
haha.. and you just happened to copy and paste the exact phrases in order out of Wikipedia. You phoney, Fake, Carpet-bagger, liar, and cross-dresser.
wow..the pittifullnes of yourself
Looks the same to me what you posted at 4:08 is the same as what is on the website that was posted by Carols.
carpet bagger?? hummm is that a rasicst remark i sense??
Can we discuss the issues tho instead of this other stuff?
I've been trying to stick to the issues, Xavier keeps making this into some kind of race thing.
nobama difference is i got mine straight from the king james bible site..Not wIKIpEDIA!!
My name is Carlos not Carol...NObama : )
why would John McCain make a good President?
Looks like Wikipedia on this end, but who cares?
Name taken dude.
CARLOS I NEVER CALLED YOU ANY IGNORANT NAME..YOU MADE MY POINT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.i argued my points..i did'nt even know you were white.i thought you were latino.but i definitley know your are rascist byt that crass remark of yours.
Nite Wikipedia boy. Maybe you can google some more information since you can't articulate it yourself. haha. gonna laugh all day thinking about how dumb you are.. CYA
well this is gonna get confusing
george this is the sourcei used..http://kingjbible.com/revelation/1.htm
I don't know much about McCain. I came here to discuss Obama, but this forum seems a bit off topic right now.
George says: why would John McCain make a good President?---------------
Although McCain is not very conservative, he is as close to keeping with the Bush administration as we have to choose from, and The Bush administration is what we need for another 8 years. ---- One more Buch/Cheney term --- One more Buch/Cheney term ---
One more Buch/Cheney term ---
If Obama can keep any anti-white thoughts out of it, I think he can still be a good president.
100 years in Iraq, Thousands of dead young men in women, Trillions in debt, a failng economy and housing market, health care cost threw the roof, gas 4 bucks a gallon and rising, substandard public schools, unemployment growing.....oh yea all this under George Bush and you want to maintain the status quo?
XAVIER- YOU SIR ARE A MORON. I HAD TO COME BACK ONE LAST TIME TO LET YOU KNOW, I'M STILL LAUGHING AT HOW DUMB YOU ARE. COPY AND PASTE ANOTHER QUOTE FOR ME YOU JOKE. HAHA
And Obama will fix all this? No matter what President was in office at 9/11 we'd still be in Iraq right now. You seriously think pulling out of Iraq will fix everything?? Iran will move right in there before our last aircraft leaves the country. Then you see where your sons and grandsons will be fighting for years in the future..
One second. Trying to find an intelligent response on Wikipedia to copy and paste on this subject.
Carlos..grow up and read a bible.
Obama has been "Mentored" by this racist for the past 20 years. There is no way he doesn't have some of the same feelings.
over 4000 soliders dead, 100,000 wounded, trillions spent... why did we invade again? WMD's ....OIL? is it really worth more dead soliders? these are americans, with families, children, wives, brothers, sisters, mothers and fathers
nobama..we are'nt even suppose to be in iraq!
"We aren't suppose to be in iraq". I don'd disagree. But the fact is We ARE, so what now?? Just pack up and leave?? We can't do that. That giant sucking sound you'll hear is the Iranians coming across the border then see what kind of gas prices you pay. We need a republican to get us out of that mess in a way that is best for the American people.
George, No one could have done better, and none of the current crop will do better. The current crop will make things bad, not good like they are now. Well, good at least for hard working, tax paying citizens that do not take welfare or food stamps or other so called entitlements. If our welfare, food stamps sucking parasitic leeches would actually realize they are NOT entitled to anything free, we could save 1.17 trillion a year. If you can't take care of your self, do the rest of the country a favor, crawl back under your rock and starve.
Hillary will fix it all. Better than Obama and McCain.
heres a wikipedia paste for you:
While the term racism usually denotes race-based prejudice, violence, discrimination, or oppression, the term can also have varying and hotly contested definitions. Racialism is a related term, sometimes intended to avoid these negative meanings. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each racial group possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another racial group or racial groups. The Merriam-Webster's Dictionary defines racism as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular racial group, and that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief. The Macquarie Dictionary defines racism as: "the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule or dominate others."[citation needed]
nobam.. a republican got us in that mess!!!come on now.
Watching rev.wright and Obama is like watching the wrestling matches on t.v. they are both phoney.
will you do realize that the majority of women and children on foodstamps are white
will..wow..that's what the country's problem is?people on welfare??i thought it was an unjust war,bad education poicly and inflation..glad you set us straight.
starve little kids...what ashame
policy
Xavier -- nobam.. a republican got us in that mess!!!come on now.
WHAT MESS? I know for myself, and everyone I know, things are just as good as they have been for the last 30 years. I like the way things are going, and I do not want change. Don't fix it, when only parasites and traitorous, surrender, cut and run, cowards think it's broke.
The majority? 38% of whites vs 37% of blacks. Whites make up more of the population so this isn't saying anything.
randall.you sound like a war happy nut! kill em all let god sort em out huh??
Trying to debate these guys and they always have to throw in the race card. Pathetic...
If your gonna start a war, have the balls to dowhat it takes to win. Nuke the bastards and get it over with.
Oh never mind, then we couldn't steal...cough buy the oil
Cut welfare and see who cries the loudest.
Carlos 38% of 85% of the white race vs 37% of the 15% of the black race... you do the math
Whaaa... I'm paying 4.00 per gallon of gas. Lets pull out of Iraq and let Iran have it so i can pay 10.00 per gallon and send my son back to the country to finish the job.
George, .... color doesn't enter into it. If you can't feed your kids, you don't deserve to have them. The kids will get fed, clothed and sheltered, but if you are physically sound, between the ages of 19 and 65, you shouldn't get anything free, for any reason ever. If this means the children you can't care for go to foster homes, GOOD, their lives will be better getting away from the human scum that brought them into the world.
nobama..and you call Wright and Obama rascist??matter fact..Bill clinton gave the country the erfect solution to welfare..use it for what was it like 3 years..after that you either go to school , get a job training or get cut off.
So Justin 4000+ dead soliders are worth it you to get 4.00 gas?
will you are not even worth a response.
Xavier ===== randall.you sound like a war happy nut! kill em all let god sort em out huh??
===========EXACTLY======== Glad to see you finally made some sense.
forgive me will, I was under the erroneous impression the government was here to serve the people, not people serve the government. You know all those taxes we pay
No soldier is worth it, but we are there and we HAVE to finish the job!!
Randall..you need to stop watchin those John wayne movie..if you so gung ho join up and go fight! it easy to talk tough safe at home on a computer.i'd like to see if you's talk that big boy yip yap if you were in Iraq with I.E.d blowin up around you.
George, The government is here to protect us from dangerous terrorits, build roads, stay out of my pocket, and make sure you don't steal from anyone. The government is NOT HERE TO STEAL FROM ME AND GIVE IT TO YOU or any other parasite.
I'll agree with part of your response. No solider is worth it
George so you think that the government "serving" you means they have to literally give you free food for nothing eh? WAKE THE F*CK UP!! I don't pay taxes so some little yellow bellied sap sucker like you can sit on your fat @ss and not work. Who are you F*CKIN kidding???
Justin finish waht job? they(iraqi's can't even protect their own turf for 6 damn years!!! and they don't want to.they rather have us fight and die for em.
Funny will, how you'd starve women and children... but make no mention of the billions in tax breaks we give oil companies and corporation that ship jobs over seas
Xavier ... join up and go fight" ----I did, for 25 years. I think you are the coward hiding behind your computer. Everyone fighting now volunteered, as I did, to fight to give you the right, you are using right now, to be an idiot and act like a cowardly ass hole.
Did'nt Bear-stern get a big welfare check???
Carlos I am fat, working on that, but I don't receive welfare.
Why dont George and Xavier move on up to brokeback mountain together and raise your herb garden, work on your solar panels and BUTT F*CK each other all day. Maybe you can collect your welfare checks up there to pay for your lube!! YOU YELLOW P.O.S!!!!
people that result to insult, lack the intelligence to debate, I feel sorry for you. Stay in school
Randall- I appreciate your service. (salute)..
Randall.. i took the ASVAB last week i went to baltimore Meps and the whole 9.i gotta check with my recruiter tommorow.so save that.i'm not a coward.never was.but i do know when something is'nt right.you are the type of soldier that gave my uncle a bad name when he came from vietnam.he got a silver star.you know what he did with it? he sold it to a another soldier for 50 bucks so he could brag to his friends at home how much of a bad ass he was!
I graduated college years ago kid, spent 10 years in the miltary. You said you were in school when the Iran-Contra hearings were on t.v. That makes me much older and wiser than you two homos. Cowards hiding behind your computer screens and dildos.
George, The liberal politicians who raised taxes on fuel, made it so the Government makes more profit on every gallon than the oil companies make on each gallon. Liberals won't let us build new refineries, or drill our own oil. Liberals are the reason for our gas problems. As for "starve women and children" If the women are physically sound and between 19 and 65, screw them. and I don't know any children that are older than 19. You are a moron and purposly deceptive.
hmmm I believe the current gas tax is 18 cent per gallon. Oil company reporting billion in first quater profits
george you ever heard of a college educated 10 year military vet that talk like 12 year old?? me either.
He gave your uncle a bad name?? your uncle sold his medal for 50 bucks? Who is the loser there? I wish i could send these posts to your recruiter so he can take you out back and give you a good old american ass whoopin.
will and if the woman can't afford daycare,how is she suppose to work..leave the kids at home alone?
will and if the woman can't afford daycare,how is she suppose to work..leave the kids at home alone?
I don't need a college degree to see that you are a peace loving homo. You would rather stay in the rack with your gay lover as the terrorist come and knock on your door.
real men don't need medals and awards to prove worth.
So now you think the president should regulate the profits of corporations? Move to China if you dont like it. They were making those profits with every president in office.
NObama... they can make there profits...but we shouldn't be giving them billions in tax break aka welfare
nobama if a billion dollar company go under they deserve to be broke!!
Your uncle is a loser with no pride in his unit, god, or country. A real man?? More like a real whiner! Much like you. You better go to school and forget about the military. You definately aren't the type we need. Besides, homos aren't allowed in the Military so you can't get in anyway.
Boy where is your mother??
George, Giving a tax break???? That's not welfare, it is just not stealing more from them. You sound like you think you are getting a break, if a burglar only steals your TV and not your DVD player too.
I agree if they go under they deserve it. I dont like the high fuel prices, it makes everything that much more expensive. But you seem to offer all kinds of complaints and accusations but I dont hear you telling me how Obama is going fix everything. His character is clouded and he offers no realistic solutions to any of our problems. Just the status quo responses we've all heard before.
Obama has pledged to cut off tax breaks to Oil companies and corporations that ship jobs overseas. Also to increase fuel ecomomy on cars
Xavier----
will and if the woman can't afford daycare,how is she suppose to work..leave the kids at home alone? ----- She can do the best thing for her children, let a foster home take care of them properly, and she could join the military and help protect their future. If she is not a parasite, she would do it.
he has also pledged to invest billions in rebuilding our nations infrastructure thereby creating jobs.
Go back to brokeback mountain you pansy. Where did you take your ASVAB? You said you took it last week? Where was MEPS?
nobama ..come on now..have you been watchin the debates? i have i saw all of em.as i said b4 i watch the news everyday my tv stays on cnn,foxnews and msnbc.all three candidates elft in the race said waht will do. i like Baraks ideas better it's 5:58 in the morning so im not gonna go into details.but if you kept up like i did you know waht they ALL SAID you know it like i do.i'm out have fun.
cya Xavier keep up the pressure on these guys... we'll bring em around soon enough
carlos learn to read.matter fact learn to be a man.you know and everybody on this board knows you never been in the military.
Man, wake up! He is going to cut tax breaks for overseas jobs? Wait and see how much you pay at Christmas for the same item when they dont bring those jobs back. Whewww (shivering), Cut tax breaks to the oil companies. No big deal, they'll just raise prices, and while he pulls all the troops out of Iraq and Iran moves in, We'll pay even more for gas. Fuel economic cars. Wake up again, there is already a plan in place to have more economic cars by 2012.. Any time you stick it to the corporation, the consumer takes it in the ass.
george peace out bruh.. and everyonce else we may not agree but atleast we all(well some of us)can debate like adults.
Get the F out of here George your homo!
George, --- Obama has pledged to cut off tax breaks to Oil companies and corporations that ship jobs overseas. Also to increase fuel ecomomy on cars
------------ So he is going steal it from the successful and give it to the lazy bums. George, George, wake up ... Not stealing even more money from the successful, is NOT A BREAK.
Xavier, George is waiting for you in bed you butt f*cker. Get out of here already.
NObama, we should give tax break to companies to keep jobs here to employ american. A higher price for goods without lead paint in them might not be so bad. Its silly to be giving Oil companies tax breaks at a time they're taken in RECORD profits. Yes higher fuel standards... get out those SUV and into a hybird
The consumer is going to pay for it George. You need to realize that. I am all for the american worker, but i'm also for paying low prices so I can make a living with MY paycheck.
I have several friends that are VERY, VERY successful business owners. They say if the liberals mess with their taxes anymore, they will simply move their companies and their money out of country like the Ted Kennedy . Wow, Liberals doing their ignorant best to drive business away and put Americans out of work. What a great liberal plan.
George, You sir are an idiot? Don't you think NObama?
Increasing the demand for american workers will result in more competition for labor, thus higher wages. More workers, will pay more taxes...allowing the govenment to invest in building infrastructure...better roads and bridges. More companies producing goods here at home..means more competition among retailer..and guess what lower prices
Leave me out of your guys problem with each other please. I'm here to discuss the issues.
will read please Obama has said tax breaks for companies to keep job in america. and to cut tax breaks for those shipping jobs over seas
I'm not responding to Carlos and that kind of mess.
George --- I didn't say, "shipping jobs over seas", I said they would pull out all together and rebuild out of country. Get it, NO JOBS AT ALL HERE. Besides, your are not getting any kind of a BREAK, just because the government doesn't steal all your money.
Fair enough. George you need to listen and open up your F*ckin ears. Stop living in fantasy land and believing that crap, you duche bag. Competition among workers??? Are you serious? Do you have any idea how hard it is to employ american workers? Every time you turn around they are on strike for some reason or another. I am all about the american worker too, but i think sometimes we demand too much for the skills we offer. Baggage handlers going on strike, ticket prices go up, pilots go on strike, ticket prices go up, gas goes up, bankruptcy follows. Give me a break.. wake up george and get your F*ckin head out of your @ss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will agree with Carlos on the american worker. It is hard to be an employer in the U.S. In the long run tho, it always the consumer that feels it, not the CEO.
George doesn't know what he is talkin about huh?
I tend to think Unions are a good. If my memory serves me correctly the one of the complaints leading to the pilots strike was being required to fly too many hours, without enough sleep...a safety issue.
Carlos, you need to settle down and stop with the hostile tone. We are trying to have a civil debate on some issues. Everyone has good points to offer to the conversation and they shouldn't be brutalized for their thoughts.
I'm going to bed. Aplogoies for telling you the way it is, or the way i see things. good night..
Wage issues i think was one of the strikes.
bye Carlos. Might want to see a doc for that temper you got there.
Maybe so. I just hate dumb people. Later!
My point is American had the best manufacturing base in the world, and we've shipped so many jobs overseas for cheap labor, often times child labor, with little enviormental standards. We have a responsiblity to keep our country strong, both millitarily and ecomonically for the next generations. Its not going to be easy, but sacrifices must be made now before its to late.
One last thing, tell your butt buddy Xavier, i'll look for him on these boards to crush him in debate again.
It's a mess. I don't know how it can easily get fixed. I hate to say it but I rather enjoyed the economy under bill clinton. I don't think Obama can do it. I do think Hillary may be able to pull it out, but she comes with her fair share of problems also.
The years Bill Clinton were okay...at least we had a budget surplus. But even though Hillary would be President, giving them a second bite at the apple, maybe a chance we shouldn't take. The past 20+ years theres been a Bush or a Clinton in the White House. I'd like to see us go in a different direction. Yes Obama will have to prove himself, and I don't believe he's joined at the hip to Rev. Wright, but I feel he should be given a fair chance. He seems to have some good ideas, and is willing to ask for the opinions of others... which is a good thing... no has all the right answers, but a willingness to work towards a common goal goes a long way
Not to mention Hillary wants to mandate health care for everyone. I disagree with that approach. Baracks plan gives people the option to join or not. I like having a choice, thats basic to the principles of Freedom
Bill O'Reilly keeps cutting off people who starting saying anything in the negative category about Obama. He stated on Fox & Friends this a.m. THAT HE KNOWS that Obama DOES NOT believe the view of Wright. NOW O'Reilly is a mind reader. He's starting to really get irritating. He USED to be fair and balanced and it seems that now the fact the factor is such a hit, which he mentions every week or 2, he's getting to be UNFAIR and BALANCED.
MARK: Golly gee whiz, i wush i wus as smurt as yu are. your sooo muchh more sofisticated than corrine. your too stupid to even BLOG. This is political you moron! Whats your iq 12~? You need a brain in order to blog and vote. TELL ME PLEASE YOUR TOO YOUNG TO ACTUALLY CAST A VOTE!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STINGY WITH TRUTH: What in the hell are you talking about. The words were totally out of Wrights big mouth and Obama has been a member for 20 years. Your too dumb to vote. PLEASE STAY HOME WITH THAT DOPE MARK~
KATE: Your a conservative? Let me ask you if your a REAL Christian? Obviously NOT because Obama believes in abortion. There are some of us with REAL values. Kate, you just keep your "obamaite" stance and keep your mindless following of a man who has an agenda, and NOT a good one. Another sheep being led to the slaughter. You can't have it both ways. Chirsitan DOES NOT = abortion. JUST like Wrights supposedly Christian Church. You people who "claim" to be of God and than think Obama is all that, make me ill!
Take a look at what is going on right now. Do we want 4 years of this circus?
This country faces enough problems without internal unrest.
Think about it!! Obama claims to want to unite the country in change, well I see it as causing racial issues that are now dividing this country. (Big Time). If he loves his country, he will take a good look at what he has created and get out of the race. I liked him at first but he has too many skeletons in his closet, that are now coming out!
JUNE: Golly Woman: start reading about Obama. Obama rode the back of Wright to get where he is! HE USES PEOPLE! The brainless thinking of some just drive me nuts!
CARLOS has some very valid points. Look at the auto industry and all the strikes. Does person have to make $30 an hour and get the benefits all paid for. That means the cost of the vehicle goes up. We bought a 2000 dodge ram for about $30,000 in 2000 and now its about $50,000 +. How many people can afford that. We always, now, buy used vehicles because of the price of new and the gas mileage. We own our business. We pay our employees well, but can't keep raising wages. We have competitors who hire kids to do the work and pay than cheap wages. You just can't compete. There has to be a limit. If people would show some responsiblity with their spending we could and would be more competitive. Its just common sense. I'll tell you this, AS a consumer, if we STOP bringing goods over here and if the cost is too high of the products here in the USA I STILL won't be able to afford that item and WON'T buy it. I'll stick with what I have, buy used, AND we do grow a lot of our own produce. I've worked for unions and for non-union people. THey can be good and bad. The unions rake in tons of money on their own, at the expense of the worker. My husband got screwed badly by his union!
Oops - maybe I didn't understand CARLOS so well. Let me take his name OUT of my previous blog.
GEORGE: I don't believe WE ARE receiving oil from Iraq and I don't quite understand why. I believe we should stay and finish in Iraq but their generating a ton of oil and I don't think its a bad thing to start paying their way. I don't know why we are not receiving oil in payment for all the money we spent. I just think its a just and fair thing. I have to pay for everything I receive and I'm in NO way rich. Far from it. I'm just unsure why this isn't happening. I know war will always be in the picture. Bible prophecy, but if a country is rich in something we need; why not a littly payback?
eric: nit-picky; "thou shalt not kill". WHAT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CANDY BARR: Are you black? Your ranting like a mad-women! Take a pill and get some sleep. WE DISLIKE OBAMA = RACIST??? Start reading please b4 you blog dumbness.
AMANDA does not sound very educated. If thats what a college degree does for you, I'm glad I'm a big dummy!
GEORGE: You must be black. The only racist comments I ever see on these blogs, well at least 98%, are from black people. You can't stand it that we don't like Obama. Well I'm white and my husband and I supported Alan Keyes. Wonder where you were than? No one stood up for him that I ever heard and we're news addicts. Quit your hate. What I'm finding out from this Presidential race is that African Americans are the true racists in this country. It is the biggest eye opener to me since the indoor toilet. AND stinks the same too. I really wonder if its the entitlements, or might I say, MORE entitlements that are driving the Black vote. DO YOU THINK????????????
MARK: Some of us more intelligent folk actually think the moral fiber of a person, their integrity and character are important in running the USA. I'm a wife of a Vietnam Vet and daughter of a WWII Sargeant. Your comments are stupid and moronic. I wonder what you've ever given back to your Country instead of worrying JUST about yourself. I have a feeling from your dumb comment, NOTHING.
after reading some of the comments from readers regarding the obama/wright issue and the media coverage of them both over the last several weeks i'd have to say that first obama's remarks to wright's recent rant doesn't clear obama of his association with his rabid pastor of 20+ years and certainly won't stop wright of attacking him, this country and all it stands for. i have to say that both wright and obama have their own agendas and nothing else. all in all, they do nothing to help me or this nation and i'm quit sick of reading/hearing about them both.
OBAMA scares me. Hitler was able to 'charm' the German in his early days. Obama has been a charmer - and indeed he is. And he has tried to ride in on the John F Kennedy legend.
But wait folks - This is NO TIME for an OBAMA.
OUr nation has NEVER been here before and an arrogant OBAMA who has shown his views toward much of our core values is not a good choice.
I have a major question: Obama now refers Wright as his 'former' pastor.
What does that mean? Has Obama taken up with Billy Grahm, or some other major spiritual leader - or is he just saying 'former' as a ploy.....
And once ni the White House I can just see the party / celebration and change of posture with Rev Rev Wright suddenly re-appearing as the White House spiritual counsel... with all kinds of parties and comings and goings.
We have far too much at stake. No time for experiments.
THE REAL ENEMY of US is CHINA and we better get focused.
We have serious problems and OBAMA is NOT experienced enough tocommand the respect of the world that he represents the core fundemental values of our USA. He is a renegade ... with a wife who has never been proud of her nation.
No my friends. Obama is a dangerous message tothe world.
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