1) Would you vote in favor of Obama's healthcare plan?

65 Comments

  • Steve - 13 years ago

    I think the important idea, is to help the people that are in need.

  • Scrabble Cheat - 14 years ago

    I think that's a good plan, even some adjusment should be made.

  • Remember Feminism? - 14 years ago

    It's about freedom. Whatever this HealthCare bill may or not provide in terms of actual health care - it's not worth the sacrifce to individual liberty. My Body, My Choice & all that.

    I do not need health care at the expense of my soul - and robbing my neighbor is bad for my soul.

    I am an Authentic American and proud of it. I will not lick the boots of government in exchange for being tossed the crust of my neighbor's meal.

    I neither enslave nor embrace my own slavery.

    If you wish to sell yourself into slavery, go right ahead and I hope you have a nice day for it. Neither you nor our government, elected or not, has the right to take me with you.

  • NUNYAA - 14 years ago

    Obamas healthcare plan is stupid!!!!

  • Bill Voelkel - 14 years ago

    The Obama administrtion and socialistic minded left-wing congressional members must be removed. Approval of the Heath-Care legislation is a major tragedy perpetrated on this country by a group of persons motivated by greed and desire for power. We are rapidly moving towards becoming a third-world country that will be bankrupt and politically divided. It is regretful that so many of our citizens have given their life to protect this country from loss of freedom through the exercise of surpressive government control as envisioned by the founders of this country. Those who think timely and effective health care will be enhanced and become available without cost are suffering severe illusions of reality. I cannot believe that some people do not have the intellectual capacity to understand the potentially devastating impact this legislation will have on our country and its' citizenry.

  • ttbala - 14 years ago

    all of you who are critisizing the president and calling him names and saying who beleives what he says, I have one thing to tell you, after eight years of listening to Bush and Company lies I beleive that all of you have forgotten what good things can come from decent people, also I want to add that, every and each one of you calling the President socialist, government takeover, you do not even know the meaning of socialism, trust me I have lived in such country, do yourselves a favor and educate yourselves about socialism so you would not become a laughingstok, and lastly, may I ask why isn't any one of you who is criticising this president, criticising the health care passage, isn't looking back at eight years of Republican domination and try to come up with one just one thing they did to this countyr, after you do this, maybe you would think before you talk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Patrick Di Carlo - 14 years ago

    This man Obama is a very dangerous socialist/communist. One now understands how Hitler became a dictator using parlimentary procedures (legal) totake control of Germany. Similarly Hitler announced his intentions in a book he wrote as Obama announced his intention fo 'wealth distribution'during his campaign. In both cases no one really thought they were serious.

    Another striking similarity is Hitler/Obama both used a financial crises as an excuse to aggregate power and utilized radiical associates to force compliance by the legislatures. Obama won the election for a myriad of reason political correctness driven by the media and Hollywood being central.

  • Suki - 14 years ago

    Let's get this bill passed and move on to correct the other woes of this country, shall we? Enough of this ...pass the bill!

  • Pat - 14 years ago

    As long as the plan covers anyone who is truly in need of coverage and it doesn't pay for abortion as a means of birth control then I am for it. I have gone too many years without health coverage because I could not afford it and now I am paying for it in spades (high blood pressure, high cholesterol, osteoporosis). If I had health coverage I would have gone to the doctor and taken preventetive treatments or steps for theses conditions. Now I am on heavy duty medications that cost more money than I can afford. As the old adage goes, An ounce of prevention it worth a pound of cure! Prevention and screening is where the money needs to be spent. But with the numbers of Americans without health coverage for most of their lives, its a bit too late to go that route now. When National Health Care starts, most of the money will have to go towards treatment of diseases and then as the numbers of healthy Americans increase the focus can go to early treatment, prevention and screening. America has to GET healthy first and then we can prevent health problems by having access to healthcare. I belive this is a basic human right.

  • X - 14 years ago

    Retraction: My Above Post Should be referenced as being Addressed to the idiot calling himself STFU as a Handle. I am not saying Stfu myself. Just clarifying it. ;-)

  • X - 14 years ago

    STFU, its morons like you that should be stripped of voting. You call us illiterate fools but really your no better than Hitler. If this passes may Civil War come to this country and throw you internet blogging children into the real world. Your kind are easy to see. You spend your days on Youtube, or throwing money at fat fools like Michael Moore while the people you decry work their tails off. Obama has to be stopped one way or another. I just wonder if someone has the sturm to become the villain this country needs to accomplish that legally. It is clear that the House will not heed our will now.

    If the Chicago way is the way of Washington, the time has come for another to confront "Lincoln".

    Actually it isnt Lincoln we have in Office, its William Marcey Tweed in Living Color.

    I am against any Health Care that mandates I buy something from the Government. Car Insurance I can see being Mandatory as its a privilege. My body is my own. Regardless of if it is Law or not, I WILL NOT ever buy Health Care, and if I must use my education and knowledge as a Attorney to tie my money up beyond the IRS Control, I shall indeed also.

    I am American, thus I find it patriotic to disobey a law I feel is unconstitutional. I advise everyone else who agrees do so as well.

    If you folks didnt know already, the attack dog who will pursue you if you decide to "Not get Health Care" it is the IRS. Thats so Mr. Obama can get into your Bank and just steal it.

    Time for Change. Real Change. RESEARCH your candidates before the November vote.
    Also make Limits on the number of Terms ANYONE can serve in the House or Senate if you want to never see this again.

    Lastly. Fight tooth and nail costly though it may prove to have this bill repealled. This isnt about Health Care, it is about We the People's Will being done, not Miss Pelosi and her puppet President.

  • mariann paolantonio - 14 years ago

    The very people who will be helped by the Health Care Reform Legislation are against it. I do believe that there are other agendas at play. The idea that government is bad and more government is worse. The latent racism both directed toward the president and minorities. The belief that the Health Care Reform Legislation is "socialism." Do they not realize that we live in a very large, complex American society, there must be a government large enough to deal with the issues of all Americans. We are not living at the turn of the 20th Century let alone the 1950's. If those against the bill and everything it stands want to go back in time and live in a time when there was no medicare, medicaid, social security, workmen's compensation, workplace regulations, ....... In another words, "survival of the fittest."
    I hope to God that those against this legislation, never get sick, have their insurance dropped, reached their maximum ceiling, develop a catastrophic disease not covered by their insurance, lose their jobs and their coverage, or the worse - a child's illness.
    Where is this country going? No taxes unless they are "earmarked" for me. Are we going back to the "me generation?" This is very confusing for me. The very people who proclaim their Christianity are not acting very Christian. I am a Roman Catholic who is upset with the attitude and behavior of my fellow Christians.
    I consider myself an informed independent. The American people should take a refresher course in civics. Study American history and you will find that important legislation takes a very long time to pass. Of course there will be deals. We are not living in LaLa land where there is no give and take. That is what negotiation is all about. Our Declaration of Independence and Constitution were framed and ratified as a result of negotiation. The Civil War occurred because no one would listen to one another. I fear this is happening now. The rhetoric is hateful hyperbole. This brings me back to my original point, the opposition to health care reform is just the tip of the iceberg. Underneath is a caldron of venom that is lethal.

  • Theron - 14 years ago

    Wow, it's pretty horrifying to hear all this negative ranting going on here! I'm sure this bill will be full of pork and nonsense but that's always the case when there is so much resistance. If more citizens had been willing learn about and debate the issues rationally we could have had a better outcome. But I guess that's always how it is in politics. Like with medicare, social security, va, etc., I don't suppose anyone willl actually want to roll back national health care once it finally gets started. Funny how that works.

  • Valdis Kalejs - 14 years ago

    My Congress"man" Adam Schiff who is voting yes will find out that his vote yes was a bad legislative and career move...I challenge to send letters to the "yes" voters and begin your letter with "Dear Coward"...

  • FED UP WITH MORONS - 14 years ago

    It is so discouraging to see how stupid this country has become. I swear to God they should take the vote away from you morons. First, anyone who is over 65 and is against this bill should voluntarily relinquish their Medicare benefits and try to get regular health insurance. Do you think you could do that? How many insurance companies do you think would insure you? And of those that would, do you think they would charge you a reasonable rate? Oh, but you already have government run health insurance. Oh, and it works. We know this because if it didn't you would opt out of it and get health insurance from those oh-so-generous health insurance companies. Second, it's funny how the Republican leadership has made it seem like a 2700 page bill is a bad thing because of its length. Healthcare is complicated. The bill should be comprehensive. Yes, reading is very difficult for your ilk. Maybe you should have continued your book learnin' beyond the third grade. Yes, it is so much easier for you to listen to the people on the television and the radio. But if you could read, you would see there are no death panels, and abortions are not paid for by this bill. And you would see that the only people who are paying more taxes are people who earn over $200,000 a year or families who earn over $250,000 a year. Ask yourselves this, idiots, why shouldn't everyone in this country have health insurance?

  • Leslie - 14 years ago

    Health insurance companies will no longer be able to engage in fraud with the passage of this bill. It will be illegal for them to deny coverage to someone who has been paying premiums for years. Rescission will no longer be allowed.

  • Truthmonger - 14 years ago

    The Republican party has become radicalized by extreme ideologues. Their moderates are almost gone. This is why partisanship has become so heated and destructive. We need to defeat this extremism at the ballot box. President Obama is pursuing a pragmatic agenda that will improve the lives of all Americans. His initiative and courage should be supported. Those who are opposing with fear mongering will be dealt with by voters and by history as not worthy to be leaders in our democracy.

  • DH Minneapolis - 14 years ago

    I love the way all these patriots scoff at the suggestion that a real American might need help paying for his or her medical care.

  • weirdone - 14 years ago

    Donald from Hawaii: And those who believe that there is anything constitutional about this bill don’t have a clue. Where in the Constitution do you find the authority for the Government to require me to purchase anything? According to the Constitution all spending and revenue bills must originate in the House of Representatives; why are they voting on a Senate bill that is therefore unconstitional? Unlike those Democrats in office I have read the Constitution, they on the other hand have thrown the entire Constitution away except the XVI Amendment which allows them to tax us to death.

    “Most of what we do down here isn’t even mentioned in the Constitution but we do it anyway.” Congressman James Clyburn. And they get away with it because "We the People"allow them to.

    When liberty is taken away by force it can be restored by force. When it is relinquished voluntarily by default it can never be recovered. -Dorothy Thompson

  • Michael Monagan - 14 years ago

    Please post your IQ with your comment. We might see some patterns.

  • Donald from Hawaii - 14 years ago

    Speaking as a three-time cancer survivor and someone who was dropped from coverage after my last bout with melanoma, I applaud this bill as a necesary first step in the overhaul of the means in which health care is delivered in the United States.

    Those who continue to ludicrously denounce the insurance reform measure as an imposition of socialism, and further vow to obstruct and overturn its implementation by any means necessary (including thinly-veiled threats of violence), have not read the bill and literally haven't a friggin' clue what they're talking about. Their opposition is merely an extension of their race-based hatred of an African-American president from Hawaii and all that his election represents about where we are as a nation in the early 21st century. They are not patriots; rather, their ridiculous statements represent are emblematic of the obsolete concept of white male privilege in this country.

    Yet these opponents are so adamant about the veracity of their self-deluding political cliches - i.e., "death panels", "government control", "Kenyan birth certificate", etc. - as to render any further discussion and debate with them a complete waste of one's time. As the late Hawaii Gov. John Burns one observed, "Any goddamned fool can draw a line in the sand - and who am I to argue with one?"

    Aloha.

  • jojo - 14 years ago

    the HC bill is not a partisan issue and it is NOT about health care....it is a Bi-Parti$an money grab.
    Why? Because the country is broke.
    Our elites, the Congressional clowns and the CorpoRAT ba$#@rds that control them get to force people onto insurance roles, collect their premiums for FOUR YEARS, and so keep this leaky $hip of state afloat a while longer.
    The government produces nothing. They can tax money, borrow it, or steal it. Our "leaders" are simply looking for other large pots of money to waste and pass around to their masters in Big Business.

  • lorne millar - 14 years ago

    I am a Canadian, 87 years of age and in pretty good health, we have a health care plan that has been in place for about 1/2 a century--when i go to my Doctor it is at no cost to me, he may give me 1 - 2 or more perscriptions,to be filled at a drug store of choice and all l pay is the dispensing fee (about 6-9.00 ea) should i need emergency or hospital care there is no entree or exit fee . As an Old age pensioner, on fixed and limited income l do not pay any premiums. if you are in the med to hi income bracket you pay a premium ea month, of about 100.00 . This same plan covers subsitized ambulance fees at a reasonable cost, even to low income people. There is no que jumping and while it may take a wait period of 3 to 6 mo for a hip or knee replacement ,you will have no wait for cancer treatment, or heart attacts or other emergency services. Would i trade our system for the present American one, NOT ON YOUR LIFE. Support the Obama plan it is sure as hell a lot better than what you have !!!

  • GC - 14 years ago

    This hate smear does not even remotely resemble a "poll". The only results you'll get is a count of how many sheep are willing to echo your venomous hatred.

  • Reality Bites - 14 years ago

    The federal government intervened in public education and as a result, America produced a generation dumb enough to vote Obama into office based on a litany of lies and a foolish slogan.

    Why would anyone entrust their future health and welfare to promises made by a pathological liar? It makes no sense!

  • jim s - 14 years ago

    Somewhere along the line we forgot that Amrica was never created to be anything other than a Constitutional Republic. The framers of the Constitution built what they considered to be a viable government that wasn't intrusive to the people. What we have today is a far cry from that and should the health plan they're pushing be passed, intrusive is not a word I would use to describe it. Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and whatever are not supposed to be included in the package of being an American. We were granted certain rights under the Constitution that were percieved by it's creators to be from God, that anything other than these rules and, with the 10 Commandments, grant liberty to all within a religious and political framework.

    Should there be laws controlling the insurance companies? Of course there should because as with any other industry, they will, can and should attempt to maximize profits. It's what you get in a capitalist country. Should they be punished for having, perhaps, a flawed method of obtaining their goals? No! They should have boundries or parameters that they can work within and should they remain viable, continue on their merry way. That holds true for any business that operates within the confines of our borders. But that said, the Federal government has no right under the Constitution to force this program upon it's citizens. That should come under state laws the same as having to have vehicle insurance or a drivers license. This bill should have nothing to do with the governments involvement in your rights as a citizen. It should address the variences involved in portability, a common language and coverage of and in the insurance policy and tort reform. Nothing else! Doing that alone would reduce the cost to insurers, allowing them to offer lower rates to their customers while maintaining a profit. After all, profit is what America is really all about.

  • Damocles - 14 years ago

    The Healthcare bill will be an abortion if passed. What people should REALLY be scared of is the way the Democrats have absolutely turned the constitution on it's head and are becoming legislative Dictators. With decided to make up laws as they go (said Alcyee Hastings, (D)), they are making it possible to pass any law any group wants, just by saying it's passed, no votes needed.

    These kinds of things would make King George look like a piker.

  • Lee Chen - 14 years ago

    When these people who are for Heathcare start paying for it, (which goes into effect years before you will actually get it!), and your employers stop paying for the nice healthcare you may have now, (which is so going to happen)
    they are going to have the wake up call of their life. This is as far from free healthcare as you can get.
    This is going to cost you real money people and lots of it. The sad thing is it will too late by then.
    You will all start screaming and yelling and crying but your idiot leader who is exempt from this wonderful government run enforced plan will be long gone, and so will all the assbite Senators.
    This is a travesty, linked to the IRS who will just take your money for it. Most people who are for it that I have talked to have no idea of what is coming. They have just been listening to Obama sound bites. Or have this unrealistic idea of "healthcare is a right". OMG, healthcare is NOT a right.
    Due to these kind of peoples stupidity we all will suffer greatly for a very long time.

  • Kir - 14 years ago

    I just find it interesting that since the votes are high against this bill that it must be because republicans are just swarming to this site. Also find it laughable that democrats, when running out of anything intelligent to say, just default to "it's bush's fault" or start throwing random insults. Also I'm guessing none of them have even realized that a lot of democrats don't like what's in this bill. Nobody does, whether or not you're for a socialized medical system or not. This bill is just a complete mess.

  • john c - 14 years ago

    This President and Congress has no ability to solve any problems, much less ones wihch require people who know what they are doing in specialized areas. How can they solve problems when the only job they have ever had is to be a poor politician.

  • maggie - 14 years ago

    Anyone who disagrees with this health care bill has obviously never had a seriously ill family member.
    Until you are rejected by one of our health care insurers or told you cannot be covered because of
    a preexisting condition, you can act like Obama is insane.
    Who are these people opposed to every American receiving coverage or any kind of assistance
    with their health care? Are they so wealthy they just aren't affected by this crisis?
    Get real people every other major country in the world provides some type of health assistance to
    their citizens. Everyone pays as they can afford. I thought this was America...land of the free....not
    America..land of the rich and privledged. And yes I do have insurance, I am 65 and I pay $670 a month
    for extra coverage from a supplemental insurance Co. I will gladly pay to receive assistance from the
    government for anyone in my family as well as other Americans who are out of work, out of money,
    and have been paying for a useless war in a distant land instead of supporting their fellow citizens.

  • Chris - 14 years ago

    After months of thorough investigation and countless hours spent reading this convoluted piece of legislation, I literally find it shocking that any American citizen would vote in favor of the bill. Perhaps those elected to represent the people would realize this- if only they read this monstrosity. Should this pass, rest assured, American citizens will know exactly what to do at the voting booth this November. The upcoming mid-term elections will go down in history as some of the most important in our history. God bless and protect you, fellow citizens.

  • Bob - 14 years ago

    I see the Republicans have come out in force on this message board.

    As for me, I just wish there was a public option and I surely hope we get one in the near future.

    In the mean time, thank you, Barack, and thank you, Nancy!

  • JustMeForReform - 14 years ago

    Surfer357 - "Obama will have added 3 trillion dollars to the deficit by the end of fiscal year 2010."

    That is the cost of the mess Bush created. What do you not understand about that.

    By the way in one year, the government is already getting paid back some of the money required to fix the Republican Financial Crisis. Saving GM will most likely end up profiting the government, as it sells its interest once GM is back on its feet:

    "General Motors has emerged from bankruptcy and the new GM is no longer publicly traded. It is privately owned by various interests such as the US Government, the Canadian government, bond holders, and the Auto Workers Union."

    Why do you think the American and Canadian governments stepped in? Could it be they were the only buyers on earth with enough resources who were willing to take the risk of taking ownership of GM.

    "Government control of healthcare is just one step toward a controlled socialistic society. "

    Aetna, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, Cigna are these government agencies? What do you think you are talking about? These for profit companies control health care, and have been ripping off and screwing real live people, their employers, and even children just about every chance they get. There is only one cop on the beat left who can set these companies strait and that is the government. Unfortunately it is the government under Republican leadership that allowed this health care crisis and these multitude of unethical practices to flourish unabated. Now that the current administration has taken a stand to do something about it, it is Republican leadership that once again stands in the way of providing all Americans their most basic of human rights, medical care when in need. What kind of society allows these injustices to happen? What do you call it when people who pay for health insurance are refused coverage for care that their doctors call for? I call it a corrupt society.

    LA Times maybe if you did not lay off so many of your talented and experienced reporters, your readers might be better informed. It is shame to see what has become of what used to be one of our nation's great newspapers.

  • Timothy C - 14 years ago

    The scary thing here is how we have come from a country that had to make a Constitutional amendment to stop the sale of alcohol as a national law, to a country where the people are so uneducated in the Constitution to think that this is even remotely constitutionally legal. Socialism is socialism and that is where Prez O has said he is going. Wake up people if this spending don’t upset you than you lied about Bush’s spending and you are just a Kool-Aid drinking ignoramus slave to the Government.

  • Jon C. Henning - 14 years ago

    This healthcare bill is just one more step by the "progressive" movement that is going to ruin this country in the near future. The measure of a generation is what state it leaves this nation in for the generations to come.God, I fear what this country is going to be like for my daughters; Emily 8 and Gabriella 10. I believe, the Founding Fathers, created our federalist system with elected representatives to serve the will of the People. I guess you were wrong that day Mr. Mohat. This bill will be decided by the Supreme Court not Capitol Hill. God grant the Justices the wisdom to deem this bill unconstitutional and lets begin the process over to real healthcare reform, that I believe all Americans are in favor for, as am I.

  • Steve Klein - 14 years ago

    Enact healthcare reform before we have no healthcare system left. Republicans only want to continue to support the insurance industry's ability to rape and pillage. The current proposed legislation is FAR better than doing nothing at all.

  • Luigi - 14 years ago

    It seems that some of the people writing opinion are big fans, and like to pay for all, of the pharmaceutical companies advertising !!! Only in America pharmaceutical companies spent that much money on advertising !!! Only in America you have to pay a bundle for health insurance to get so little.
    Health and education are human rights not a privilege for the wealthy !!!

  • Jay Farnes - 14 years ago

    Solving the health care crisis is a moral imperiative. It's the right thing to do. So what to do? Well, plan beats no plan. The Republicans have had lots of time to come up with a creditable plan, and I have yet to hear it. And this plan is a pretty good one.I read the plan as having three parts. First, insurance reform to eliminate bias against pre-existing conditions. But unless you require people to get insurance. If that's all you do, though, then only sick people will get insurance (healthy people will wait until they get sick) -- and insurance premiums will go through the roof. So second, require people to have insurance (not show up uninsured to the emergency room to get the most expensive possible care, at everyone else's expense). Third, since poorer people can't afford the insurance, provide subsidies.

    There are a lot of other, pretty important details - -like insurance exchanges, malpractice reform, paying doctors for healing people not just by number of procedures, and the like.

    As an independent, and an ex-Republican, I like what I hear. It's a serious attempt to deal with a serious problem, and one where our country deserves better.

  • STFU - 14 years ago

    You idiots. You people are so fucking stupid. I am really enjoying seeing you illiterate ass-clowns squirm over issues you seem totally unable to properly understand. Thank the heavens some people with sense got in office before you fluoride-in-the-water, fearmongering, dummies set off an atomic weapon or something.

  • Mitsu - 14 years ago

    It's astonishing how uninformed people are about both this health care bill and the current grave state of our health care system.

    First of all, the bill in its current form is very close to Republican proposals of years past. It is far to the right of a proposal that President Nixon himself offered to Ted Kennedy (who foolishly turned it down). The rhetoric that this is a "socialist takeover" of health care is pure, uninformed idiocy of the worst kind. It's incredible to me that my fellow Americans are so averse to doing basic research and understanding what we have in front of us. Calling it "socialist" basically means that Republicans will call anything socialist in order to score points with the public.

    The plan involves ALL private insurance companies. There isn't even a public option in this plan, at all. There are no price controls in the plan. It's in every way one of the most conservative attempts to reform health care there could possibly be.

    As for those people complaining about the mandate: use your brain for a moment. There are only two options: government health insurance, or private insurance with a mandate. If you don't have a mandate, but you get rid of prohibitions on insurance companies preventing people from getting insurance who have preexisting conditions, then insurance rates will skyrocket for everyone, because people will have NO INCENTIVE to buy insurance until they get sick. Just wait till you get sick, buy insurance then, and take your free ride! This makes NO SENSE AT ALL and would never work.

    You can't have it both ways: if you don't want government health insurance (public option), but you want to get rid of discrimination on the basis of preexisting conditions, then you have to have a mandate. There's no logical alternative.

    Everything else in the 10 point list: most of those things are in this bill! The bill boils down to preventing arbitrary recission, preventing discrimination on the basis of preexisting conditions, creating insurance exchanges to give individuals group purchasing power, enabling some form of interstate competition, creating a mechanism for the development of alternative payment schemes for Medicare, mandating insurance companies spend, in most markets, 85% of their premiums on health care, subsidies for people who cannot afford insurance. It is a balanced, private sector approach.

    We are ALREADY paying through the nose for health care (or your employer is). In the United States, we spend roughly TWICE what other countries spend as a proportion of GDP on health care, and yet we still have long waiting times in many cases, and our health care outcomes are just middle of the road on average. The price of health care is exploding at twice the rate of inflation; it has doubled in the last ten years. If we don't do anything now we face financial ruin.

    Wake up, America, and stop listening to right wing blowhards who haven't even bothered to understand the basic issues. This is a good bill, it is a moderate bill, it is the minimum we need to get or country back on track.

  • Steve Rubensteins - 14 years ago

    The Dems are giving the Republicans a gift that will keep on giving. Between now and 2012, Republicaqns will run on overturning this monstosity. It is so obviously flawed that when the truth comes out, the Dems will dive for cover. To no avail. They are toast as they deserve to be. How about country over party for a change?

  • chuck22 - 14 years ago

    This will be one step closer to government run country. No constitutional right. Socialism!
    Thanks to the ignorant and traitors in this once free nation we have to fight such garbage imposed upon us by a lying egotistical socialist dictator and his equally radical hench puppets.

  • Katharine - 14 years ago

    Go health reform! Being in favor of this bill is not about whether or to what extent one likes or dislikes Obama. It's about whether or not one supports fixing our broken health care system. I have plenty of friends who dislike Obama but who are ardent supports of the bill. The bill may be imperfect, but it's better than nothing, and it's an important step. Not passing the bill could set us back horribly.

    I've had so many friends suffer dreadfully at the hands of our broken system. One friend, while working two jobs, was forced to go through a dangerous withdrawal from a prescribed medication against medical advice, because he could not afford to buy even one more pill. I had another friend who while dangerously ill had her health insurance run out, and she was kicked out - homeless. And I have many more horror stories, but I'm trying to keep this succinct.

    And this is not a government take over of health care - hardly. Even before the bill was watered down, we weren't even close to that.

    So my answer to this question? Without any hesitation, an enthusiastic YES!

  • Patricia - 14 years ago

    I'm in favor of getting adequate health care for a fair premium from an insurance company that will not search for loop holes in my application to drop me when it comes time to pay for my care. That has happened to my best friend with breast cancer and I say shame on these companies for stealing years of premiums and giving only grief in return! Its not fair and everybody with a brain and heart knows this system is broken.

    It's not a government take over you people should be afraid of, at least we get to vote every couple of years to have some say over who represents us in congress. You should be afraid of the unregulated power of insurance companies because their CEOs represent their company's own best interests and if they decide to drop you, or double your premium, who will you turn to then?

    If you Republicans are so against government control over health care will all of you be refusing Medicare and Medicaid when you become age eligible? Good luck if you independent "patriots" try to care for your sorry old butts without any government help! Medicare IS socialized medicine and this health care bill is a good first step toward seeing that everyone under the age of 65 can also get proper health care for a fair price.

  • Janet - 14 years ago

    Kim--(and June) We NEED reform, but NOT this 2,700 page Healthcare reform bill. Please read above some of the pending bills that WILL address specific problems without going overboard and putting the government in a position of power it was never meant to have. All the best to you.
    And June--You say "America vote for Health Care Reform!" That's one of the problems--Americans are not going to get a chance to "vote". As polls show, about 70% of Americans are AGAINST this plan. If we could vote on it, it would not pass. This is a case of congress not representing the people ie. taxation without representation. There are other bills that would address the problems with healthcare (see the nine points above). Those need to be supported and passed. (P.S. Big Business and the like happen to be the ones who give people jobs and actually give this country a base for our economy--so maybe you should not be so quick to come down on them. For example: Burger King is a "big business". Don't they hire a lot of people and buy a lot of supplies? Like all the food products, paper products, cleaning supplies, cooking equipment, tables, chairs, tile flooring, bathroom fixtures, not to mention the building supplies for the construction of the building and the workers who actually built the structure--it goes on, but I think you get the picture. This needs to be considered. This country is business-based and we NEED businesses. They are not all bad guys. Just think about it.)

  • karen - 14 years ago

    The Titanic was historic too.

  • June - 14 years ago

    It has been a long time since we have had a good president in office. We have one now! It is about time some one is standing up against big business with the good old boys that have been robbing us for years. Just look at some of the bills that have been passed: tax cuts for boating businesses, big oil, insurance, and gas companies. Don't believe what the insurance companies are trying to sell you again! After all the insurance companies are spending a million dollars a day to stop Health Care Reform.
    I believe that any one that does not vote for Health Care Reform has their hand in the insurance companies pockets and the insurance companies have thier hand on our check books. It is also my belief that the insurance companies have a monopoly on health care. My reason is as follows: We pay for health care but we have to use their doctors and their health care facilities. We pay more for services because all facilities are not on their plan. So it seems to me we are paying them to pay themselves. And your 20/80 plan turns in to 25/75 if you use another health care provider. I may be wrong but I don't think so! America vote for Health Care Reform!

  • kim gardner - 14 years ago

    I'm Kim and this is my story of why I'm an advocate for health care reform.

    If you like it, or are inspired by it, please share it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHeZyny80rA

    Keeping my fingers crossed for tomorrow. Health care reform now!!

    Thanks!

  • Janet Love - 14 years ago

    If you go to www.healthcaucus.org you can see that there are several bills in process which directly address specific healthcare issues that can bring the changes we need:
    1. Insurance Reform
    We should eliminate the bias against patients with pre-existing conditions, outlaw rescissions except in cases of fraud,
    and ensure states have well-designed high-risk pools.
    HR 4019 – Limiting Pre-Existing Condition Exclusions in All Health Insurance Markets (Deal)
    HR 4020 – Guaranteed Access to Health Insurance Act (Burgess)

    2. Tax Fairness
    Providing individuals the same tax benefits no matter where they want to get their health insurance, and tax credits to
    help individuals purchase insurance in the individual market.
    HR 3218 – Improving Health Care for All Americans Act (Shadegg)

    3. Medical Liability Reform
    The success of Texas’ 2003 reforms: Texas has licensed over 15,000 new physicians and Texas hospitals have delivered
    more than $594 million in charity care.
    HR 1468 – Medical Justice Act (Burgess)

    4. Portability
    Allowing patients to shop for health insurance plans across state lines = more choices at lower costs.
    Example: Average health insurance premium for a family of four: New Jersey: $10,000 – Pennsylvania: $6,000 – Texas:
    $5,000
    HR 3217 - Health Care Choice Act (Shadegg)

    5. Medicare Payment Reform
    The current formula Medicare uses to pay doctors – the SGR – is unstable, and a permanent fix is needed to ensure
    seniors continue to have access to their doctors.
    HR 3693 – Ensuring the Future Physician Workforce Act (Burgess)

    6. Doctors to Care for America’s Patients
    We must ensure that we have enough doctors to care for all of America’s patients – now and in the future.
    HR 914 – Physician Workforce Enhancement Act (Burgess)

    7. Price Transparency
    Health care services are the only product that we don’t know the actual cost of before utilization, so let’s have the prices
    up-front, just like in a restaurant or clothing store.
    HR 2249 - Health Care Price Transparency Promotion Act (Burgess)

    8. Preventative Care and Wellness Programs
    Health care reform must include participation from America’s patients, so living healthy lifestyles and making healthy
    decisions is very important.

    9. Create Products People Want
    Mandates have no place in a free society. Instead, we should challenge insurance companies to create innovative health
    plans that Americans want. Example: Health Savings Account – offers flexibility and control.

    Government control of healthcare is just one step toward a controlled socialistic society. That is the direction we are being forced to go. The majority of Americans are against this. We are losing a government of the people, by the people and for the people and will be dealing with a new "changed" government that will mandate control over every aspect of our lives. Some people are ready and willing to give over their freedoms if they believe it will get them something for nothing (ie. "free" healthcare). This so called "free" healthcare is not in fact free--the cost will be tremendous tax increases and the quality of the care received will decline. The changes needed in healthcare should be specific for each problem as outlined in the pending bills above--not in some 2700 page bill that overhauls a system that just needs specified changes and adds 16,500 new IRS agents to the payroll. Let's really look before we leap!

  • Mike Waters - 14 years ago

    The process alone, not to mention the bill itself is a direct attack on the Constitution and the freedoms of each American! The "Progressive" agenda is destroying our Country and our way of life! It is time for Patriots to rise up, be heard, and take a stand along side our Founding Fathers!

  • Henry Deluca - 14 years ago

    There was no option for "Hell no". This idea of government control of healthcare is ridiculous. People have a right to be angry at this insidious end to freedoms.

  • Jennifer - 14 years ago

    Peg, you crack me up. That's the exact same thing I say about people like you. "You guys refuse to look at the facts and would rather react emotionally and irrationally, and I might, kindly say....stupidly." Pretty much verbatim...you must have stolen it from me.

  • Surfer357 - 14 years ago

    Peg have you not been paying attention? Obama will have added 3 trillion dollars to the deficit by the end of fiscal year 2010. That buries Bush's record in nothing flat. And what exactly has he been doing to save jobs? He's saved some giant corporations from going under and allowed them to make massive profits once again except this time it was at our expense as taxpayers. Oh yes and that bailout thing was started by Bush, Obama has just kept it going.

    Trust me I'm no fan of George Bush but Obama scares the heck out of me. He's out of control. He's done relatively little to address unemployment in order to push this health care issue while he's still got majorities in both houses of Congress. And after all the pushing and finagling, and politicking I believe this bill fails to adequately address the massive problem of out of control health care costs. Yes they are going to cover a lot of people, yes it will be great that people won't lose their insurance when they're sick but what about the little issue of who's going to pay for all this. I'm still waiting on pins and needles to find out what exactly qualifies as a "cadillac" plan. There are far too many questions and back room drug deals that went into this bill. If this goes the way of Medicaid, Medicare, and Social security (the only legal ponzi scheme in the country) how in the world would it not bankrupt our nation? We're already 12 trillion dollars in debt and looking to add several trillion more to that by the time Obama's first term is out.

  • Jim - 14 years ago

    I'll be making donations against the swing-vote democrats who vote for this bill. I've got my list and I'm watching them. If they manage to hide their vote, then I'll donate against every swing-vote democrat. Democrats are going to pay for this. This will teach to you ignore your constituents. Off with your heads.

  • Pam - 14 years ago

    If you like what Fannie & Freddie did to our housing markets & economy, then you should vote yes for this healthcare bill. If you think they will fix the imperfections later, think again... Have they fixed the jobs crisis, the housing crisis, the postal service, medicare, medicaid & fraud.

  • peg - 14 years ago

    What a bunch of nonsense! Cellini and Obama 2010 are the only ones who make any sense at all. "Bankrupt the country" what a laugh. The guy most of you voted for last time, George W. nearly bankrupted our country with the stupid wars and Senior donut hole drug coverage. He came in with a surplus.....remember and left with a huge deficit and unbelievable mess! How soon you forget, Obama saved this country from a complete financial disaste (that occurred during Bushes term) and is trying his best to get jobs going and to revamp a much needed health care system that George W. did absolutely NOTHING for during his 8 years. In fact George W. did nothing at all for most of his 8 years but make his oil guys richer. Why didn't he at least inact tort reform??? You guys refuse to look at the facts and would rather react emotionally and irrationally, and I might, kindly say....stupidly.

  • ramon - 14 years ago

    I voted for our president, at times I thought maybe I made a mistake, presedent Obama has only been in office for over a year. Congress is also the other end of the equation.

  • _pisees_ - 14 years ago

    The timeis upon us. We can extend healthcare for millions, end insurance company abuses. Please vote for healthcare insurance reform now. http://bit.ly/b9FTdB

  • Obama2012 - 14 years ago

    Imperfect as it may be, this will be a landmark moment in American history, a Democratic triumph and definitely one for the history books. As long as enough Democrats can find their balls, there's nothing the Republicans can do about it - and Speaker Pelosi has done an extraordinary job of making sure that happens.

  • Jim - 14 years ago

    This man is the soriest excuse fora leader i have had the misfortune of seeing in my 75 years on this earth..
    and Nancy and Reid in a close second..........We need to vote every politician out of office on their second term.
    Thanks
    Jim

  • cellini - 14 years ago

    We are the only advanced country in the world that does not have universal health care. Insurance companies have been dropping members and raising rates for years. My insurance rates went through the roof because my eye doctor commented I had the beginning signs of cataracts in my file. Some health insurance companies have made $150 million dollars in profits in the last five years by refusing to pay claims and dropping members when they need it most. It's time we need reform in this industry. NOW!

  • Arthur Seaton - 14 years ago

    If the Dems think this bill is not going to complete the bankrupcy of the Country, I've got some oceanfront property in Arizona for sale,CHEAP!

  • Shahrokh Mokhtarzadeh - 14 years ago

    Not only the government intervention in virtually every area of our lives is outright wrong, its attempt to now take over the health care industry is another disaster that is being pushed for public relations purposes only. While "Health Care Reform" sounds great, the reality is that as long as there are third persons paying the costs associated with health care, there will be problems with health care "industry". The reform must re-focus the obligation for payment for such services to the consumers. Only then the costs can be controlled. Insurance companies and giant health care providers are the source of the problem due to their near-monopoly on this industry. Breaking down the cartel would have been a better way of trying to address this problem. Mr. Obama's "reform" is nothing but another bail out plan at the cost of the U.S. Taxpayer. As a tax-payer, I am fed up with this President and can not wait for Nov. 2012. . . .

  • jbsinkc - 14 years ago

    Why would anybody trust anything this clown of a president says - he will tell whatever lie that will be fit the story of the moment. This crap has got to stop - watch what is happening -not what the talking smoke screen media is pushing.

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