My family members all the time say that I am wasting my
time here at web, however I know I am getting experience daily by reading such pleasant articles or reviews.
Ben - 14 years ago
Actually, I started to prefer Mint for running the CD now - but I wouldn't be happy about installing it and then having to install GIMP.
I'm amazed that it's considered non-essential. Office is certainly essential. Actually, a fairly simple application like 'Irfanview' would be an acceptable intermediary.
The main problem I have with f-spot is the way it tries to re-arrange photo's when importing them - I currently use folders named year-month '2009-12' and want to tell f-spot to do the same thing.
Is f-spot better than gthumb?
waspbr - 14 years ago
I agree with the decision, I have installed ubuntu in a few computers and the users complained that gimp was a little too much for them, in response to that I ended up installing picasa which they were more comfortable with. I have to admit I haven't played with F-spot much...
Anyway, as long as they keep GIMP in the repos, then I don't see any problems.
Greg - 14 years ago
There is no reason why they can't include gimp in the menu without installing it, and then download and install it when/if a user clicks on it. That way they save space on the LiveCD, and yet don't sacrifice the user experience for the purpose of supporting an ancient media format called CD.
Ubuntu needs to look at including more awesome, stable applications like nexuiz, wesnoth, and frozen bubble. Taking things out of the distribution just makes the new version less powerful.
Linux is held back because it doesn't appeal to gamers (which would otherwise be our target market) by including some awesome video games in the default menu, gamers who try Ubuntu knowing nothing about Linux will immediately enjoy themselves.
Ubuntu should start talking with some mainstream video game publishers about getting more games included with Ubuntu by default. It's a game publishers dream come true.... millions of installs on release day, no marketing budget required.
bruno - 14 years ago
Gimp, what is this? C'mon, no one uses it. Good decision!
Jason - 14 years ago
I think that this is a good desision to remove GIMP IF it is replaced with another simpler one. I think that the majority of users don't need a very complicated image editor.
Alex K - 14 years ago
Part of me agrees, but another doesn't. Maybe it's just because I can't easily place myself in the shoes of an "average" Ubuntu user. I use it regularly, but I know this isn't typical.
I love being able to explore an operating system, and I have no problem with "advanced" applications being present--they're just one more thing to explore. Again, I suspect this attitude is not typical.
As a parting thought, I wonder what a usage test would have shown. How many people actually use it, and how often?
I agree with it. It's way more than is necessary for most users and the ones who want it can get it easily. I use it nearly every day and love having it, but wouldn't be put off if it wasn't there from the start. Just one of many things I'd have to do to customize my fresh install.
I agree with the decision. There's no real need to have Gimp installed by default for the same reason there's no need to have programs like Audacity by default. I'd be willing to bet most users never need them. Anyone who actually does need it will surely google a Linux image editing program and turn up Gimp in the first result.
tjulio - 14 years ago
It's a pretty good decision. most new Ubuntu users find Gimp not as the quick photo editing tool they desire. Those that know Gimp, and love Gimp will download and install it with ease if they choose too.
My family members all the time say that I am wasting my
time here at web, however I know I am getting experience daily by reading such pleasant articles or reviews.
Actually, I started to prefer Mint for running the CD now - but I wouldn't be happy about installing it and then having to install GIMP.
I'm amazed that it's considered non-essential. Office is certainly essential. Actually, a fairly simple application like 'Irfanview' would be an acceptable intermediary.
The main problem I have with f-spot is the way it tries to re-arrange photo's when importing them - I currently use folders named year-month '2009-12' and want to tell f-spot to do the same thing.
Is f-spot better than gthumb?
I agree with the decision, I have installed ubuntu in a few computers and the users complained that gimp was a little too much for them, in response to that I ended up installing picasa which they were more comfortable with. I have to admit I haven't played with F-spot much...
Anyway, as long as they keep GIMP in the repos, then I don't see any problems.
There is no reason why they can't include gimp in the menu without installing it, and then download and install it when/if a user clicks on it. That way they save space on the LiveCD, and yet don't sacrifice the user experience for the purpose of supporting an ancient media format called CD.
Ubuntu needs to look at including more awesome, stable applications like nexuiz, wesnoth, and frozen bubble. Taking things out of the distribution just makes the new version less powerful.
Linux is held back because it doesn't appeal to gamers (which would otherwise be our target market) by including some awesome video games in the default menu, gamers who try Ubuntu knowing nothing about Linux will immediately enjoy themselves.
Ubuntu should start talking with some mainstream video game publishers about getting more games included with Ubuntu by default. It's a game publishers dream come true.... millions of installs on release day, no marketing budget required.
Gimp, what is this? C'mon, no one uses it. Good decision!
I think that this is a good desision to remove GIMP IF it is replaced with another simpler one. I think that the majority of users don't need a very complicated image editor.
Part of me agrees, but another doesn't. Maybe it's just because I can't easily place myself in the shoes of an "average" Ubuntu user. I use it regularly, but I know this isn't typical.
I love being able to explore an operating system, and I have no problem with "advanced" applications being present--they're just one more thing to explore. Again, I suspect this attitude is not typical.
As a parting thought, I wonder what a usage test would have shown. How many people actually use it, and how often?
I agree with it. It's way more than is necessary for most users and the ones who want it can get it easily. I use it nearly every day and love having it, but wouldn't be put off if it wasn't there from the start. Just one of many things I'd have to do to customize my fresh install.
I agree with the decision. There's no real need to have Gimp installed by default for the same reason there's no need to have programs like Audacity by default. I'd be willing to bet most users never need them. Anyone who actually does need it will surely google a Linux image editing program and turn up Gimp in the first result.
It's a pretty good decision. most new Ubuntu users find Gimp not as the quick photo editing tool they desire. Those that know Gimp, and love Gimp will download and install it with ease if they choose too.