Should belief in God be a core principle of the 9/12 Project?

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  • Bruce - 15 years ago

    The government and Constitution does not grant us our rights. Our rights ONLY come from God and cannot be taken away by any person or government. The government is there simply to protect our God given rights. Our founding fathers believed and stated this.
    If you believe that government grants us our rights, then you must also believe that government can take our rights away.

  • Liberty Jane - 15 years ago

    I think the reason for this statement about God amounts to the fact that we don't rely on government for our sustenance, but rather we rely on God. If we don't have inalienable rights given to us by God, then how can we claim we have them at all? It gets more difficult, I think.

    I have a friend from the Ukraine. In school, she always got "A's" in her Atheism class. Communism was at war with God. The State wanted to be God.

    Anything you put in front of God becomes God. Obama supporters have a huge amount of faith in statism.

    Perhaps you'd prefer as an atheist to say "self-reliance". "I am the center of my life". That might work, but it is easier to say "God" because it just doesn't sound as . . . selfish. Not that I disagree with the merits of self-interest.

  • Colonel Neville - 15 years ago

    Sadly, our Islamofascist mortal enemy believes utterly in their nihilist totalitarian fasicst god and this is what gives them their relentless all encompassing edge. Fashionable grab bags of secular PC platitudes especially of the Marxist sodden left liberal multiculti critical theory relativist jihadist bedfellow ilk, will NOT bring victory, only our slow inevitable defeat. No really. Ask Patton, LeMay, Churchill, Jefferson, Washington and so on.
    Colonel Robert Neville blogspot com.

    "The Bible is the rock, on which this republic rests." Andrew Jackson.

    "Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis: a conviction in the minds of the people, that these liberties are a gift of God; That they are not violated but with his wrath?" Thomas Jefferson.

    "Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, Religion and Morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of Men and Citizens.

    ..And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle." George Washington, Farewell Address.

    "There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time." Gen G.S. Patton.

    "Kill enough of them and they stop fighting." Gen Curtis LeMay.

  • martin - 15 years ago

    If you don't like it, I am sure that the atheist Jews of the DNC would love to have you. If you cannot feel comfortable among Christians, than screw you.

  • Larry Sheldon - 15 years ago

    If you aren't allowed to believe in God if you want to, how can you be sure you will be allowed to believe what you want to?

  • christiella - 15 years ago

    Jack Erhart: "And for all those that are claiming to be atheist, I'm afraid there really is no such thing. God doesn't believe in them."

    Then perhaps your god, in his wisdom, made me an atheist :) For I am one, as much as I am a Republican.

    I do not have a problem with Beck including religion. I happen to believe that society needs believers, just as much as it needs non-believers. We balance each other and we each have made accomplishments that have bettered our society.

    People need faith and strength, which is not exclusive to religion, and it does not offend me if religion is where they gain that faith and strength.

  • Jack Erhart - 15 years ago

    God is the center of everything in my life, so it's a natural for Him to be the center of this event in my thinking. He is the center of all things even if you acknowledge Him or not.

    And for all those that are claiming to be atheist, I'm afraid there really is no such thing. God doesn't believe in them.

  • texasdee - 15 years ago

    A belief in a power greater than oneself is, in my opinion, important for a well functioning society. The ability to believe in "Good Orderly Direction" helps foster a sense of "we" instead of "me". I see nothing wrong with it.

  • w3bgrrl - 15 years ago

    Hope you didn't go to the Democrats, Sherry! They demand your belief in God!

    Shocking, but true, from page 8 of their 2008 platform: "We need a government that stands up for the hopes, values, and interests of working people, and gives everyone willing to work hard the chance to make the most of their God-given potential."

    Source: http://s3.amazonaws.com/apache.3cdn.net/8a738445026d1d5f0f_bcm6b5l7a.pdf

  • w3bgrrl - 15 years ago

    Sherry, what you posted is untrue. The word "Christian" appears one time in the 2008 Republican platform, on page 53, in the sentence, "The public display of the Ten Commandments does not violate the U.S. Constitution and accurately reflects the Judeo-Christian heritage of our country."

    The word "God" appears twice, in the Chairman's Preamble: "Our platform is presented with enthusiasm and confidence in a vision for the future, but also
    with genuine humility —humility before God and before a nation of free and
    independent thinkers;" and again, "In support of his candidacy and those of
    our fellow Republicans across the nation — and ever grateful to Almighty God for the political, religious, and civil liberties we enjoy — we, the representatives
    of the Republican Party in the states and territories of the United States, offer this platform to the American people."

    No mention of a "Christian God," anywhere.

    Source: http://platform.gop.com/2008Platform.pdf

  • CatyMac - 15 years ago

    I don't know what a vote for "Glenn Beck!" means, but it made me smile, and I'll take it to mean "doesn't matter either way" While belief in God is important to me, I don't consider it a requirement to support the 912 Project. Which is why I think Glenn teed it up from the start as 'agree with 7 of 9."

  • AYFS - 15 years ago

    I am an atheist and I could care less. Who cares if God is a part of the 9/12 or the Republican party. Just don't force it on me and I am happy. I respect the history of the nation and its Christian founding. What brings you peace and strength is your own thing, not mine.

    If the GOP said "you MUST be a Christian" then we have issues. But they don't so I am fine with it. i wrote a post on that in my blog a while back too. http://ayfs.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/a-pre-post-post-what-religion-means-to-me-as-an-atheist/

  • Sherry - 15 years ago

    A belief in the Christian god is also part of the platform of the Republican party.
    That was the straw that drove me out of the Republican party.

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