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Do you trust the math the President and Congress is telling you about the cost of health care reform?



yes - they have good estimates

nope - they have not a clue...they are making up the numbers

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DANIEL CABRERA
2009-09-11 03:43:42 ET

DOES OBAMA TELL TRUTH?....YES?...or... NO?......DOES HE HAS CREDIBILITY?...YES?...or...NO?

FISCAL RESPONSABLILITY, FISCAL EQUALITY,TRANSPARENCY,HONESTY
,INTEGRITY;…..all those words, and the concepts behind them ARE TOTALLY ALIEN TO OBAMA AND HIS GANG.

Very simple - Obama says ;-

1. Recession is over / economy is going well ....it is doing that?
2. We are safer now than before....are we?
3. This nation is not a christian nation...are we not?
4. The health care reform proposal will not add to the deficit / it is self sustaining....does
the math add up?
5. He is the president...does it look that way?

A sugesstion;__
Each one of you out there , investigate, research and expand on those points and go into details. In advance,...clear picture will unveil before you.

To sumize, Obama does not talk truth to the people,...therefor HE DOES LIE.

There is no need to apologize when TRUTH is said ,....on the other hand, apolgies are in order when a LIE is enunciated...amd shame on those who DECEIVED.

One small remark ; __
Nanacy Pelosi called the CIA, liers,...she did not produce any proof and did not apologize.
Obama is telling things that do not concour with the transpiring experience and he is not apologizng on anything.

WE NEED BETTER LEADERS AT HELM FOR OUR GREAT COUNTRY, THE CURRENT ADMINSTRATION, LOADED WITH ELEMENTS OF QUESTIONALBLE INTEGRITY IS JUST NOT GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE.....YES?...or...NO?

And how your day is going so far?

Daniel Cabrera,
Merrillville,Indiana

Heloise
2009-09-11 03:44:48 ET

President Obama isn't the only one who lies. They all do.

Ted
2009-09-11 04:42:51 ET

After 911 we all worried about being attacked again. Our own government is finishing the job. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth.
I think that he believes that whatever he says is true, just because he says it.
He reminds me of Clinton with his scandals. He's an attorney, he knows how to say things in just the right way that he's never held accountable for anything. I call him MR. Teflon, nothing ever sticks. I believe that when all of this fails and it will, he will just say that he underestimated what would happen. Nothing is ever his fault and he will get a pass.
Someone should tell him that he was ellected president not KING!
It must be nice to be a Democrat, all that counts is your good intentions. You never have to produce anything. If you commit a crime it's OK, don't worry about it. You didn't didn't mean to do anything wrong. It was someone elses fault.

Julie
2009-09-11 05:06:26 ET

1) Obama says "No pre-existing conditions will exclude you from obtaining health insurance, no lifetime limit, lower out of pocket expense, etc."

What are the premiums on this type of insurance? Affordable? Who governs that?

2) Obama says it's like the minimum auto insurance. What happens when people that only carry liability or NO insurance wreck their car? Who pays for that? No one!

But, according to his plan, people have a choice to opt out of healthcare coverage. Currently those without coverage still get taken care of at county hospitals and other government entitlements.

3) Obama always says "I" did this, "I" am doing that, "I" am going to do this, etc. He never says "we". What's that about?

4) Also, he says "I will call you out if you oppose me". What the?

5) Did Chrysler close only the car dealerships that gave campaign contributions to the Republicans?

6) Why don't journalists force him to answer the questions fully, completely and with honesty? His slips and slides around the truth!

Taellis49
2009-09-11 05:30:43 ET

I think they all should be thrown out of office.

Pat
2009-09-11 06:50:52 ET

No and I don't trust his wife or Axlerod. I pulled this comment off the Globe site. Rag mags jump all over this stuff and then the so called High Brow media and even Fox latches on after the dirty work has been done.

http://www.globemagazine.com/story/361
Comment posted by who knows- not me but it isi interesting

This woman is evil. But you missed a story about her and a little boy named Dante Adams. Go talk to Bobby Rush in Chicago and ask him about this child and what happened at the Chicago Hospital in March of this year. This a great story about the Obama healthcare saga that is taking place now in America.

Strange - the link to the story in the Post paints quite a different picture of Michelle Obama. These people are really evil.

Anyone notice how stories and videos on such as You tube posted to sites about the Obama have the comments and ratings locked off ? They are manupulating any duragatory information about them and trying to kill it. These people are trying to control the Internet and with Google they will do it. Someone please blow open the Obama personal documents and Impeach this Satanic Cult.

Check out this Washington Post article.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/21/AR2008082103646.html

F-them-BOTH
2009-09-11 08:41:18 ET

IMPEACH OBAMA ..... for being as big of a lying, sack of skunk crap, as Nancy Pelosi. Those two human shit bag, waste of skin, corrupt, lying, ass holes, need to be thrown out of DC and into prison. Let's make it happen.

JR
2009-09-11 12:08:52 ET

When has Obama not LIED?

mvdw
2009-09-11 13:56:01 ET

If this administration told me the sun would rise and set today... I would NOT except it as truth nor an estimate.... I would wait and see. Their credibility is gone gone gone

klb
2009-09-11 14:09:13 ET

Dems have totally accurate estimates: Somewhere between $o... and....... $6 trillion. WHAT THE HECK, THAT'S AS CLOSE AS WE NEED TO BE. JUST "SHOVE IT DOWN THEIR THROATS, THEY'RE STUPID."

NO WAY DO THEY KNOW ITS REAL COSTS ...
2009-09-11 14:57:25 ET

THEY CANNOT ACCURATELY ESTIMATE WHAT DAY THIS IS!

Papa
2009-09-11 15:01:35 ET

The estimate from Congress and Obama are way off. It will go much high in dollars and lose of lives.

Wonder how many Voters actually trust this lying Obama_nation today.

DANIEL CABRERA
2009-09-11 17:25:34 ET

Oh! well,..anyone wishes to 'estimate' on something not-exactly-far-fetch?

Bear with me, for a moment;____

What if ?

SCENARIO - WHAT ARE THE ODDS? -

Could it be possible that all this thing is just part of a MASTER PLAN to throw America into socialism-marxism,…and eventually into communism?...guess what,... WE ARE ON THAT VECTOR

Could it be possible that Obama (although the tittle is of as ‘president’) is just but a ‘front’ in all of this? That he is let’s say like a ‘TROJAN HORSE FACTOR’ to open the doors to this ‘MASTER PLAN’?....guess what,... THAT WHAT HE IS , HE WAS HIRED BY THIS MACHINERY ( tagget as 'president') TO BE THE 'ROPAGANDIST-IN-CHIEF'

Perhaps the true integrants of the MASTER PLAN MACHINE, they need to be identified and stop in time, before go any further.Perhaps out there there are a solid and hidden group ENEMIES OF THE STATE, that want America ‘CHANGED’ to what is not our way of life.
Obama and his gang deceived the public,'since moment one'... and the practice continues.
Because the elocuency IS so convincing the many people still swallowing the PROMISES ...NEVER ACCOMPLISHED - AND NEVER WILL BE !

WHAT IF one day there is an statement from White House in this manner?

"PEOPLE OF UNITED STATES, EFFECTIVELY IMMEDIATELY, WE ARE A DICTATORSHIP/TOTALITARIAN NATION, WITH SOCIALILSM-MARXIST REGIME SPECTRUM.....NO FREE SPEECH, AND THE AS WE STARTED PREVIOUSLY, NOW THE GOVERNMENT OWNS ALL THE PRIVATE ASSET, AND IN DOING SO WE START THE NEW ORDER!...NEXT STOP, COMMUNISM !"

How about that people?;.....did anyone vote for this in the past fraudulent elections?

As a corolary this could be well applied

Honesty, decency, morality ;- those words are said to be lack in the spirit of the conservatives agenda. That is curious because right now the present administration is loaded with individuals of questionable integrity and honesty,not to mention lack of knowledge to look after our interest and neither after our security as a nation.

We have to be clear on this, people.

Among patriots, true ones, we have to admit (for is obvious) that is in the republican spectrum where we can

Did anyone noticed how the deterioration of our ways are fading away every day with the avid efforts from the democrats?

To reiterate the interrogant; - DID ANYONE OUT THERE VOTE FOR THE GARBAGE THAT NOW WE ARE EXPERIENCING?....raise hands.....PITY!

Daniel Cabrera
Merrillville, Indiana

pat
2009-09-11 19:42:58 ET

Since we have sooooo many Amendments can't we add one that States Anyone running for Office of the President it is Mandatory that have run a business prior to taking office. And A successful one to boot? We do have slim qualifications for the Highest office. If he were to try to be hired to run a Huge Corporation he would never had had a chance. Peter Schiff for President.. Or Steve Moore.....
i can see the headlines now.
We Need Moore of Steve.
Us really heading for a Schiff - T in policy.....
Good stuff....
Sure beats the Heck outta Change we can't Afford.

John
2009-09-11 20:47:07 ET

Obama proved himself to be a certified, card carrying liar by telling the USA his health care plan can be payed for by savings from the Federal Budget. He should know that won't happen. If he does not know, he should not be in the White House. The thing to do is start with 4 or 5 things that are obviously good to do and then go from there. Don't try to change the entire plan. Bravo for Sen. Joe Wilson !!

2009-09-11 21:45:38 ET

I CAN TELL BY PREVIOUS COMENTS THAT US CITIZENS ARE SHOWING SIGNS OF WHAT A FOREIGNER WITH DUAL CITIZENSHIP CAN DO> EXACTLY WHAT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS TRIED TO PREVENT.ELIGIBILTY FOR PRESIDENT ! THE DEM NOMINATING COMMITTEE 1.HAND PICKED A CANIDATE WHO HAS NEVER HELD US CITIZENSHIP! 2. GREED FOR POWER OF OUR GOVERNMENTS OVAL OFFICE! 3.SACRIFICED OUR CONSTITUTION,OUR COUNTRY,OUR USA CITIZENS./ UNDER ELIGIBILITY: BOTH PARENTS>MUST BE USA NATURALBORN CITIZENS. FACT: OBAMA SR. NATURALBORN UK KENYA, BRITISH CITIZENSHIP! FACT 2. SARAH OBAMA PERENTAL GRANDMOTHER OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WITNESSED LIVE BIRTH OF BARACK ALONG WITH OBAMA SR. 2 HALFBROTHERS 1 HALFSISTER AUG 4,1961 MOMBOSA HOSPITAL,MOMBOSA, KENYA. KENYA GRANDMOTHER WAS ASKED ABOUT HER GRANDSON RUNNING FOR AMERICAN PRESIDENT,SHE REPLIED PRAY FOR OBAMA, HER GRANDSON. ASKED ABOUT BIRTH PLACE, YES HOSPITAL MOMBOSA. BISHOP MVCRAY RECORDED CONVERSATION BY SPEAKER PHONE SWAHILEE TRANSLATED TO ENGLISH OCT 16,08. INTERVIEW WITH KENYA AMBASSADOR PROU, ASKED WILL THEIR BE A NATIONAL SPOT FOR BIRTHPLACE=MARKER? YES ALL READY PICKED OUT IN MOMBOSA!( FROM OCT 16TH TO OCT 30,2008 ALL RECORDS WERE SEALED/VAULTED BIRTH CLASSIFIED TOP SECRET!) DURING THE CAMPAIGN BARACK H. OBAMA THREW GRANDMOTHER SARAH OBAMA UNDER THE BUSS WITH WHITE GRANDMOTHER DURHAM TO JOIN REV WRIGHT AFTER ALL THE INFORMATION WAS EXPOSED & BEFORE HE COULD NOT AFTER 20 YRS IN CONGREGATION NEVER HEARING THE SPEECHES BROUGHT FORWARD,AFTER ALL REV WRIGHT MARRIED BARRY SOETORO & MICHELLE & BABTIZED THIER CHILDREN! BARACK H. OBAMA NATURALBORN MOMBOSA HOSPITAL KENYA CITIZENSHIP BRITISH ACT OF 1948 STATES; FATHERS CITIZENSHIP AUTOMATICALY PASSED ON TO CHILDREN NO MATTER BOUNDRY OR COUNTRY! MOTHER, STANLY ANN DURHAM INDONESIA NATURALIZED HERSELF & BARACK APPLICATION BY MARRIAGE TO A NATIONAL OF COUNTRY(NATIONALITY ACT 1940) NOW INDONESIAN! LOLO SOETORO LEGALLY ADOPTED BARACK AGE 6 & LEGALLY CHANGED HIS NAME TO BARRY SOETORO INDONESIA NATURALIZED RELIGION MUSLIM JAKARTA,INDONESIA 1986. MAYA KASANDRA SOETORO BORN AUG 15,1970 JAKARTA, INDONESIA MATERNAL HALFSISTER TO BARRY SOETORO. MAYA K. SOETORO USED HER LIVEBIRTH CERT(WHITE NOT BLACK) & LATER REG IN HER NAME IN HAWAII, FOR THE ONLY FORGED DOC PROOF OF BARRY SOETORO AKA BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMAS US BIRTH/CITIZENSHIP. ORIGINAL LONG FORM B/C WITH ALL INFORMATION SEALED/VAULTED! SCHOOL RECORDS OCCIDENTAL 1979 FUL BRIGHT APPLY FOR FOREIGN AID UNDER NAME BARRY SOETORO,COUNTRY INDONESIA! 1981 WORLD TOUR TIME STAMPED IMMIGRATION ON PASSPORT BARRY SOETORO,INDONESIA COUNTYS TRAVELED; INDONESIA (MOTHER) 3WKS PAKISTAN(ROOMATES FAMILY) INDIA ? AFRICA (FATHERS FAMILY). HARVARD (FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT) REGISTRATION & DISICPLINARY ACTION UNDER FULL FORMER NAME(S) OBAMA PUT NONE! FACT BARRY SOETORO & BARRY OBAMA HAS USED BARRY DURHAM! OBAMA LIED ON THE GOV FORM HE SIGNED UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY!!!! JUST LIKE ILL SENATE SEAT!!!!JUST LIKE US SENATE SEAT!!!!JUST LIKE SWEARING OATH OF OFFICE i DO SOLEMLY SWEAR THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT OF THE US, AND WILLTO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY,PRESERVE,PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES! A FOREIGNER WITH DUAL CITIZENSHIPS USING THE BROAD POWER OF OFFICE AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CITIZENS! I ASK YOU IS THIS TREASON ON USA SOIL? THINK ABOUT THIS FOREIGNER AS COMMANDER IN CHIEF OVER OUR MILITARY(ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS) CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS KNOWS FACTS; INDENTITY THEIFT SOS SEC FRAUD TAX EVASION CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS FRAUD CHARITABLE ORG FRAUD MILITARY DIR ROBERT MUELLER FBI DIR,MARK SULLIVAN SECRET SERVICE DIR; FED AGENT STEVEN COFFMAN BHO SELECTIVE SERVICE CERT WAS FORGED & BACK DATED 2008 PREPARED BACK DATED TO APPEAR AS IF PREPARED 1980. THIS FORGED DOC FAILURE TO FILL TIMELY CERT MAKES ONE INELIGIBLE FOR EX BRANCH OF USA GOV! ERIC HOLDER DIST OF COLUMBIA PROVE BARRY SOETORO AKA BARACK H. OBOMA IS ELIGIBLE FOR POSITION OF PRESIDENT! WITH HELD INFO VAULTED/SEALED FROM CITIZENS O8-09!

Colorado Mom
2009-09-12 02:28:35 ET

I have only heard lies coming from Obama. He's a good actor too.

gramiepat
2009-09-12 05:30:02 ET

Obama and all his goons are using what is called fuzzy math---when I went to school, one and one was two but to them it can be any number they choose. We are all heading for the biggest train wreck of the world and no seat belt is going to save us. They have spent too much money we do not have, bailed out too many and we are no better off in fact we are worse off, many more unemployed, and now they think they can run health care--they could not even run cash for clunkers----what a joke, but then again those of you who wanted change --baby you got it and then some. How is it all feeling now to you????

angry
2009-09-12 06:02:24 ET

They think that they are magicians and that we will believe any number they pull out of their hats. Which makes them wrong again.

George Shamis
2009-09-12 13:13:41 ET

How good was their 1 billion dollar estimate on initial "cash for clunkers" program? Gone in 2 days! And this is cerainly more quantifiable than a complex health plan.

Bruce Merrill
2009-09-12 15:19:54 ET

If Obama is going to pay for his health care reform buy getting the "Waste, Fraud and Abuse" out
of medicare, why not get it out now? Why are we letting it go on?

2009-09-12 15:21:10 ET

Joe Wilson's outburst was my answered prayer because I had just prayed "please "GOD" if Obama is lying, please let someone call him a Liar. Obama had just called us All Liars. Thank you Joe for an answered prayer.

Read for yourselves Obama was calling everyone a liar that did not agree with him or Nancy. Joe just could not contain himself because he did hear Obama call ALL Americans who disagree with him LIARS!!!!! Why America is it okay for Obama to call us Liars but it is not okay for us to call him a Liar????

Listed below are Obama's words taken from his speech:

And that’s why under my plan, individuals will be required to carry basic health insurance – just as most states require you to carry auto insurance. (Applause.) Likewise – likewise, businesses will be required to either offer their workers health care, or chip in to help cover the cost of their workers. There will be a hardship waiver for those individuals who still can't afford coverage, and 95 percent of all small businesses, because of their size and narrow profit margin, would be exempt from these requirements. (Applause.) But we can't have large businesses and individuals who can afford coverage game the system by avoiding responsibility to themselves or their employees. Improving our health care system only works if everyone does their part.

And while there remain some significant details to be ironed out, I believe – (laughter) – I believe a broad consensus exists for the aspects of the plan I just outlined. Consumer protections for those with insurance, an exchange that allows individuals and small businesses to purchase affordable coverage, and a requirement that people who can afford insurance get insurance.

And I have no doubt that these reforms would greatly benefit Americans from all walks of life, as well as the economy as a whole. Still, given all the misinformation that’s been spread over the past few months, I realize – (applause) – I realize that many Americans have grown nervous about reform. So tonight I want to address some of the key controversies that are still out there.

Some of people’s concern have grown out of bogus claims spread by those who only agenda is to kill reform at any cost. The best example is the claim made just by radio and cable talk show hosts, but by prominent politicians, that we plan to set up panes of bureaucrats with the power to kill off senior citizens. Now, such a charge would be laughable if it weren't so cynical and irresponsible. It is a lie, plain and simple. (Applause.)

There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms – the reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those apply to those who are here illegally.

AUDIENCE MEMBER: You lie! (Boos.)

THE PRESIDENT: it’s not true. And one more misunderstanding I want to clear up – under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place. (Applause.)

Now, my health care proposal has also been attacked by some who opposes reform as a “government takeover” of the entire health care system. As proof, critics point to a provision in our plan that allows the uninsured and small businesses to choose a publicly sponsored insurance option, administered by the government just like Medicaid or Medicare. (Applause).

2009-09-12 15:54:58 ET

Daniel Cabrera I agree with what you said above. I said this a year ago in a blogg that Obama was the "Trojan Horse" and I was laughed at, but hear me now...Obama is the Trojan Horse. I said America beware if Obama is elected and once in the White House out would pop out the Big Democratic Machine, His muslm background and Wright's 20 years of teaching. Hello America this has happened. Now the sleeping Giant is awaken, the silent Americans. Do something NOW!!! Vote them out in 2010 and take control of the America and silence Obama and take away his power. Also say "NO" to obamacare before it is too late.

WHAT IS THIS " SILLY SEASON? " ...
2009-09-12 16:24:15 ET

FIRST, OBAMA DON'T DO MATH. --- SECOND, DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS ARE LIARS. === PELOSI LIES OUT OF SPITE. === ALSO, NOTICE THAT OBAMA IS NOW WORRIED ABOUT THE LAXITY IN THE OBAMACARE BILL THAT COULD ALLOW 'ILLEGALS' TO OBTAIN THE FREE HEALTHCARE and UTTERLY DISCREDIT HIM?

2009-09-12 20:02:13 ET

I Do Not and I Will Not Be Trusting This Group of Guy's On Our Hill ? and Just Like You Know Who In 1776 Did In Philadelphia PA ? We That Are Here in The Now ? Will Be Calling For ( MACE OF POWER ) To Be Retruned Back To The People ? Want to Know Just Who I ( AM ? ) Check out My Profile On BeBo ? http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=8664941608 and Do Come To Philly PA Very Soon OK all ?

DANIEL CABRERA
2009-09-12 20:40:10 ET

SOMETHING IN THE PROBLEMATIC ROOTS;___-

Let's say that a group of FANATICS ISALMICS wants to take over the world,...logic dictates that they should go , FIRST, after the most powerful nation in the world - OUR GREAT COUNTRY - USA - to start...once USA is controled with all the technology, weapons arsenal,and all the rest,... everything is going EASIER to be fundamental to their agenda.

Does this make sense to anyof you out there?

Consider this if you will;

EVENTUALLY, THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WILL FIND OUT THAT MR OBAMA IS A HIDDEN MUSLIM,...A FIFTH COLUMNIST TERRORIST(LIASSON FOR DOMESTIC INFILTRATION PRO-TERRORISTS GROUPS),...PROPAGANDIST OF A ROGUE ANTI-AMERICAN,ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL, ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE / ENEMY OF THE STATE ORGANIZATION___A VERY WELL PAID FRONT-MAN / MASS-CONTACT AGENT / SPOKE PERSON,......but not exactly ligitimate rightful individual for presidency FOR IS NOT AN AMERICAN BORN.

DECEPTION AND DISHONESTY / THE MASSIVE CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON IS ALREADY WELL KNOWN TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.

Interesting?,...too far fetch?....extremely speculative?,....science fiction/ andventure scenario?.,,ah! time to look deeper, investigate at individual basis, and analyze EVERYTHING!

One more thing ; with all the ONGOING damage done -( and attempt for to do some more until our nation fall into total collapse ) - all this damage promoted by THE OBAMA GANG , it is not difficult to experience one day an open salutation from Obama with this predicament ; "...DEATH TO AMERICA..."

http://islamoncapitolhill.com/Home_Page.html

And how it does play out for you?

Daniel Cabrera
Merrillville,Indiana

They lie
2009-09-13 00:16:34 ET

Heloise is right ... they all lie ... it is just that Shit for brains Obama, lies three times as much as all the rest of the politicians, IN THE WORLD, put together.

Magnolia
2009-09-13 02:16:03 ET

For the full program and protest video from the 9/12 march, go to C-Span, its there in its entirety! Pass on to others, we want all the people out there to see it, for educational purposes. Great video shown at the beginning describes events leading up to tea parties.

MSNBC PROVES OBAMA'S 'ILLEGALS' LIE ...
2009-09-13 02:24:22 ET

RASMUSSEN POLL RESULTS, Sept. 12. ===

""In response to questions raised about coverage of undocumented workers ("illegals") in the proposed health care reform,

---- the White House issued a "clarification" of its position. ---

(From MSNBC's First Read: ""Today, for the first time as far as we know, the administration is backing a provision that would require proof of citizenship before someone could enroll in a plan selected on the exchange. ... however,, the administration also concedes that hospitals would be compensated with public funds for the care of undocumented immigrants."" (SO DID OBAMA LIE?)

Eighty-three percent (83%) of voters say 'proof of citizenship' should be required to get government health care benefits.

(THAT IS CURRENTLY NOT IN THE BILL OBAMA HAS BEEN TRYING TO PUSH DOWN OUR THROATS FOR MONTHS....... SO, DID OBAMA LIE?)

Concerned in Florida
2009-09-13 03:18:42 ET

The media is all concerned about Joe Brown. He called the President a liar in the joint houses of Congress meeting last week.

As usual, the media is distracting you from the real issue. Is the president lying to the American people ?

The president stated that there are 30 million uninsured people in America at the joint meeting. For weeks previously he'd stated there were 46 million uninsured people. Does that mean that the 46 million claim was a lie ? Is the 30 million claim a lie ? What's the real number ? Does anyone really know the correct number ? Not likely.

The president stated that illegal aliens will not get medical insurance. The Democrats in congress voted down several amendments in both houses that would have prevented illegal aliens from getting health coverage.
Regardless of what insurance we all end up with, will illegal aliens who show up at e mergency rooms in hospitals be turned away ? Not likely.

The president stated that abortions would not be paid for by a government health program. Again amendments refusing funds for abortions were defeated by the Democrats in Congress.

The president claims that the health care program will be deficit neutral and that he'll get a significant amount of money from correcting the abuses in Medicare and Medicaid. Congress has had years to correct these deficits and Obama has had 8 months to do the same and has done absolutely nothing to correct these abuses.

There are clearly enormous abuses in Acorn, an organization receiving millions of dollars from the federal government. The federal census has just severed ties with Acorn. When is the federal budget office going to sever ties with Acorn ? Is Acorn, and the many left leaning Csars in the white house intending to steal the 2010 elections ?

Should we trust the White House's math ? Should we trust anything coming out of the White House ? NO. NO. NO. We should challenge absolutely every "fact" stated by the democrats in Congress especially from those who are on the radical left, and we should definitely challenge every "fact" stated by Obama and his spokesperson Gibbs.

At the moment we are dealing with the greatest group of corrupt politicians in the entire history of our nation. We know who they are and we need to vote them out of office in 2010.

I C Old Angry White People
2009-09-13 04:05:05 ET

You old Krackers don't want to see President Obama succeed at anything (PERIOD). You are the same Krackers that fought against Civil Rights Legislation, just like you are them same Krackers that spit at schoolchildren whom segregated the public (socialized) school system, you Krackers have only aged, not changed. I C Hateful Krackers!!!!

Diane
2009-09-13 12:03:57 ET

The Obama Adminstration are fraudulent, anti-American who are the most corrupt in History. I'd like to know if Oprah is affiliated with A.C.O.R.N.? Also, yesterday while attending the march in Washington, D.C., I could have sworn that I saw the founder or his brother. Were they attending the march?

Diane
2009-09-13 12:12:13 ET

While attending the march in Washington, D.C. yesterday, I saw ALL races marching. And, it doesn't surprise me that Obama and his thugs always use the race card. It's fraudulent, just like everything the so called president does in life. Fraud to the max. And, for the obama supporters who THINKS he cares about, the lowly, uneducated morons, YOU are sadly mistaken. His agenda is taking down America. We will have a new Congress, Senate, House and President in the very near future. I hope oneday, every, single corrupt elected official is invesitgated. Personally, I'd like to see Obama and his entire adminstration tried for Treasonous Crimes against America. THEY WORK FOR US. WE PAY THEIR REDICULOUS SALARIES. GOD BLESS AMERICA.

votr
2009-09-13 13:16:08 ET

Numbers/Costs stated by obama need only sound good and have "empathy" in the press. None of this nor accuracy matters when obama's goal is entirely different than legitimate health care reform. The goal is National Socialism under central planning government control (communism). Once this health care rationing program becomes law the government will be staged to take over and oppress every aspect of individual's lives. Need proof? Go to obama's NPR interview of 2001, obama's early speeches to SEIU, obama's appointment of ACORN to control significant aspects of this country's governmental action, obama's 31+ czars-selected activists to undermine this country's economy.

jean [john] a LaBombard sr
2009-09-13 13:20:56 ET

congress budget office figures are closer to the truth about the tremendous $ costs on our backs of this new health care plan of the pres. and congress -they'll bankrupt the u s -have they gone power mad pres,and speak. pelosi- not reed he's just a camp follower of him and her! the 1 cong.man who spoke out interrupting the pres was right- pres is fast b coming a socialist. notice he never directly looked at the congress when giving his 'fireside' talk but only from side to side to the teleprompters!-only an occasional glimpse at audience -isn't that considered an indication 1 is lying ! God help the u s a survive this onslaught from these nihilists [noveau],

JR
2009-09-13 13:28:46 ET

Back in the 90's Kentucky passed a law that insurance companies that to sell to everyone at the same rate. All companies but one left and they raised there rates about 500% and that is why a lot of people here don't have insurance. KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF OUR LIVES!!!!!

Ron
2009-09-13 14:57:49 ET

Greta, I just talked to a VP of Blue Cross and Blue Shield the day after Mr. Hollywood gave his speach. Obama is out of his mind! BC/BS is a non profit insurance company and only takes in 10%. It's the hospitals, dianostics, drug companies and for profit health insurers where the costs are at 20% plus. Mr. Hollywood never talks about the non-profit insurers. The guy is off his rocker and has such a far left agenda that Speaker of the house will yell at him if he doesn't do what she wants. And, by the way, who died and made him GOD!

This country will be devided because of Mr. Hollywood! I am ready!

Glenna
2009-09-13 16:11:41 ET

Why can't Obama make his speaches from the White House instead of spending all that money flying in and out of all these cities? I thought we were supposed to be cutting back expences! It costs millions of dollars every time he takes off in Air Force One! Who is paying for his campaign trips? I didn't think they were supposed to be campaigning yet for the next presidency! I'm sick of hearing campaign speaches! lets hear about business! Of course thats if you know what your talking about, Obama. Which I don't believe you do! Come on Obama, speak to us don't preach to us! Glenna

Post a Note
2009-09-13 16:13:04 ET

I am encouraged, inspired, and enthusiastic about the country going in the right direction. The Tea parties and march on DC were attended by average american citizens who love America and are just saying "no" to Obama and his govt controlled (population control) hc plan.
We the People have marched on DC and so many other states, that the govt can't say that we are unamerican, unpatriotic, uncontrolled mobs!!! People spoke out, were not intimidated or afraid, and were very civil. Glenn Beck started the 9-12 movement 6 months ago to take our country back. Way to go Glenn Beck. The government has been put on notice - we the people will
not sit idly by with higher taxes, taxes on almost everything, no government
control/power over us, and we want America to go back to the vision our
forefathers had for this great nation. We need to become "One nation under
God", as it is put in the bible "Blessed is the Nation whose God is the Lord".

Enough of Obama Bin Lyin!!! The man is dangerous and he has been trying
to turn America into a third world country.

We don't need a charismatic, community organizer in the white house. We
need someone who is a proven leader, loves all Americans, understands
foreign policy, knows that he/she works for the people, understands the
importance of truth, integrity, and respect, and has a strong, committed faith
in God.

DC politicians can run - but they can't hide. Vote out as many as you can, especially in congress. We can turn America around. It is not too late. If Obama can't be impeached, at least say no to another term.

Ron
2009-09-13 16:30:49 ET

Greta, I just talked to a VP of Blue Cross and Blue Shield the day after Mr. Hollywood gave his speach. Obama is out of his mind! BC/BS is a non profit insurance company and only takes in 10%. It's the hospitals, dianostics, drug companies and for profit health insurers where the costs are at 20% plus. Mr. Hollywood never talks about the non-profit insurers. The guy is off his rocker and has such a far left agenda that Speaker of the house will yell at him if he doesn't do what she wants. And, by the way, who died and made him GOD!

This country will be devided because of Mr. Hollywood! I am ready!

ababoo
2009-09-14 01:36:29 ET

Dear I C Old Angry White People,

You are obviously trying to scream "racism" when the problem with Obama and the unethical people that he surrounds himself with (regardless of race or color) are trying to destroy the capitalist government upon which this country was established. It is a very dangerous time in our nation. I hope that some day you may be able to see what is really happening under this corrupt administration and stop trying to blame the white race for everything that you are incapable of accomplishing in your own life.

Many thousands of white men gave their lives in the civil war in order to end slavery, including my great-grandfather. More than half the nation and the majority of northern states were against slavery.

Impeach Obama
2009-09-14 09:07:12 ET

Shit yes, obama lied! Obama always lies. That is all that fu-ken piece of shit does. IMPEACH OBAMA, the corrupt, lying, piece of shit.

Paul Begala
2009-09-15 03:21:57 ET

They hate Pres. Obama - even though he has bent over backwards to accommodate Republicans. They hate tax increases - even though the Democrats have cut taxes for 95% of Americans. They hate health care reform - even though Ted Kennedy fought his whole life to get them the same health care millionaires like him already had.

There was not, to my knowledge, a sign that said, "Let's Bury Medicare," even though Medicare is precisely the sort of single-payer, government-run, socialized health insurance the whack-jobs say they hate. Nor did I hear about a sign that said, "Let's Bury Tricare," although the military health system is as socialized as Britain's, its beneficiaries (including, according to Newsweek, Congressclown Joe Wilson of South Carolina) are very happy with their socialized health care. Nary a sign, so far as I know, decried the Bush prescription drug entitlement, even though it ballooned the deficit, enriched the pharmaceutical companies and furthered the supposed slide toward socialism. Nor, I'm told, were there any signs criticizing the $2 trillion Mr. Bush's unjust, unwarranted, unwise war in Iraq will cost our children and grandchildren. Nor ever a single sign about the Bush tax cuts, which helped squander the Clinton surplus. If this were about fiscal policy, the protests would have happened long ago.

These tea parties are, at least for some, more about hate than high-minded debate. Anyone who needed proof need look no further than the sign captured in the photo on the front page of the Huffington Post.

Obama lies, ALWAYS
2009-09-15 04:35:42 ET

Mostly, intelligent, people hate Obama because OBAMA is corrupt, he is a liar, and he is very unintelligent.

Tea baggers loved the last 8 yrs
2009-09-15 06:12:51 ET

GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!! OBAMA IS YOUR PRESIDENT, STOP TRYING TO ACT AS VICTIMS. GEORGE W BUSH, WAS A LIAR AND THAT'S BEEN PROVEN, BECAUSE IRAQ HAD NO WMDs. BUSH ALLOWED CORPORATIONS TO RAPE AMERICA, THIS IS TRUE IN HIS PRESCRIPTION PLAN BILL (WHICH HE NEVER PAID FOR). BUSH WAS NOT VERY BRIGHT OR INTELLIGENT, LETS NOT FORGET WHO WAS IN OFFICE FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS. @OBAMA LIES, YOU FUCKING ASSHAT FART. EDUCATE YOURSELF AND STOP KILLING YOUR WHOLE FAMILY WHILE THEY SLEEP IN THEIR TRAILERS.

GET OVER IT
2009-09-17 06:56:39 ET

GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!! ........... No, Obama is NOT our president. Obama is simply our corrupt, lying, piece of shit, criminal, ass hole. Obama is just as big of a corrupt, lying, piece of shit, criminal, ass hole as Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Oh ... Now I suppose you are now going to say I am a racist against white men and women too. Listen, Liberals are stupid, greedy, ignorant, corrupt liars, with a severe mental disability, who want to keep black people down with welfare, so black people will be the Liberal's voting slaves... It is just that simple.



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