I think we should scrap the whole administration and start over. These guys are buffoons.
President Obama will have Health Care passed in spite of your attempts to discredit him and the plan. Because the American people see right through this station. We know it has nothing to do with the plan, but your attempts to stop Obama. But guess what he won and so did the American people. Not the bigots that your station represents.
Ask Obama to explain his LIE about "GREEN JOBS". This guy is a propagandist with mindless people that believe his lies. What a shame!
President Obama will have Health Care passed in spite of your attempts to discredit him and the plan. Because the American people see right through this station. We know it has nothing to do with the plan, but your attempts to stop Obama. But guess what he won and so did the American people. Not the bigots that your station represents.
To propose legislation you have to understand the problem, in detail. Why are health care costs raising 1) because of greed and law suits. If that's true then why not propose a tiered law suit structure and remove these 10, 25, 100 million dollar law suits. 2) Why are doctors scheduling exams and lab work needlessly because if they don't then they'll be taken to court if something happens to the patient. How about addressing that concern, I don't have an answer but just maybe setting limits on damages could be an answer, (see item #1). 3) if our representatives can't explain a proposal then don't try to explain it to the general public. One last item If your trying to sell it to the general public, are you also willing to give up your present health care for this newly proposed package your selling us the general public?
At first I thought I knew the reason that more and more Americans are against President Obama's Healthcare plan. I though the reason was because it is a fact that the majority of Americans COMPREHEND ON AN EIGHTH GRADE LEVEL. Now I know that is not the case. It is because the majority of Americans CAN NOT COMPREHEND AT ALL. With Social Security and Medicare already provided to all Americans, why not Healthcare? The people who want to protest that they don't want the government in their lives should have been protesting the Bush Administration's Patriot Act! It is obvious to me that the majority of Americans can no longer reason. Because of this, we don't have to wait for outside Terrorist to destroy this country. It is being destroyed from within by racism, hatred, ignorance and I even believe, HATRED FOR THIS COUNTRY!
Not only should they scrap health care but scrap the whole bunch of them. I mean every congressman/woman and Obama. What a mess they have made.
Shame on all of them.
do we need reform. heck yeah. but this plan is not the answer, it's just going to complicate an already overly complicated system. scrap the junk bill and start looking at where the real problems are. Very little compition amongst ins. companies and frivilous lawsuits from stupid people and even dumber layers. Remove the state line rules. get some sort of middleman in place to smack the people around for the stupid lawsuits that drive the costs up for for health care. I'd honesty rather see a few hundred ambulance chasing layers put out of work than my insurance company. once people start using a public health care, then they start suing the govt and the 1.5 Trill doller package end up costing 2 trill. that's a great legacy to leave for our children to clean up. forget the fact that obama is a douchbag, that's a given, i'd be against this idea if the Pope himself came up with the idea. It's just not going to work. had nothing to do with black/white, rep/dem or anythign else. it will kill our country along with most of the rest of the stupid stuff he's doing.
I will never support a health care reform bill that takes away my right to choose and pay for my own health care. While there is certainly a need for a program that provides good health care for those who truly cannot afford it, there is simply no logic in forcing folks on to government dependency who are capable of and want to pay for their own care. Does this so-called president and his mob expect us to believe that there is a shortage of medical resources? That pharmaceutics and related industries can't produce enough medicines and products to go around? Of course they can. That medical facilities and doctors can't handle the load if everyone has a health care plan? Of course they can, they already do. That health care must be rationed in order for everyone to get their fair share? Of course not. So why do they want all of us to be forced onto the government health system? It has absolutely nothing to do with health care or any feigned concern over poor people. It has to do with power and control. Period.
I will never support a health care reform bill that takes away my right to choose and pay for my own health care. While there is certainly a need for a program that provides good health care for those who truly cannot afford it, there is simply no logic in forcing folks on to government dependency who are capable of and want to pay for their own care. Does this so-called president and his mob expect us to believe that there is a shortage of medical resources? That pharmaceutics and related industries can't produce enough medicines and products to go around? Of course they can. That medical facilities and doctors can't handle the load if everyone has a health care plan? Of course they can, they already do. That health care must be rationed in order for everyone to get their fair share? Of course not. So why do they want all of us to be forced onto the government health system? It has absolutely nothing to do with health care or any feigned concern over poor people. It has to do with power and control. Period.
Larry, you are in a delusional state of mind. Unlike you, most of this nation thinks that this proposed healthcare is about everything BUT Obama. Put your hero worship aside, put your sense of entitlement on the back burner, and start to use your God given senses. This legislation is not good for the nation as a whole. Reform is what's needed and it should be approached in a methodical manner...piece by piece...starting with tort reform legislation and immediately followed by investigating and eliminating fraud through separate legislation. Once these two MAJOR areas are handled and unit costs as well as fraud are brought under control THEN let's work on expanding affordable (not free) healthcare to those who are currently paying exorbitant premiums as well as to those who are currently uninsured. Forget about Obama and what he wants...this is about US and what we want and what WE will end up paying for over decades and generations to come.
Gee ! FoxNews.com a 96% republican web-site is against a democrat plan !
I am shocked ! Try looking at fair polls or list all polls like RealClearPolitics.com if you want FAIR AND BALANCE, plus speaking of Fair and Balance why is Foxews not even showing President Obama's speech tomorrow. SEE THE BARBRA BUSH INTERVIEW on CNN ?
Ms. Bush said Obama is doing a GOOD job so far and that he has a lot of problems to face, she also agrees with the speech Obama is giving our kids !
FOXNEWS IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING FAIR AND BALANCED !
FYI - Glenn Beck is BAD for America and is bad for the Republican Party because people watch him and think that is how all republicans act and think !
Glenn D, check your facts, Glen beck is not a republican and does not claim to be republican. in fact he disagrees witha lot of what republicans have to say. i think rebups and dems are both wrong. Glen Beck is great for this nation. he actually does his homework, unlike most reporters that fall for the propaganda presented by the whitehouse press.
sorry. Dan D
I say SCRAP the whole thing, plus Obama and his administration and anybody else that thinks like he does. Let's scrap the TV stations that does not tell us the truth, that is totally one sided. Let's get back AMERICA!!!!!
I think the other option on the survey should have been "Scrap the whole program and do not start over."
I don't know what "scap" is, but I'm all for it.
obama is a far left socialist. it shows in his 32 or so appointments, and his views on capitalism. he did an end run around the constitution. these czars were not vetted properly, and were not voted on in the senate. who the hell is one of these guys who can determine how much money you make??? we better wake up and stop this now, including his outrageous health care plan that will eventually force all of into the "govt option". no thanks, i prefer a second american revolution. my comments don't even address the 2nd amendment....from my cold, dead hands.
I wonder if any of the people who are for this bill for the sole purpose of insuring people who cannot afford health insurance have ever gone to a city run hospital emergency room. People who do not have health insurance go there and get medical treatment for anything that ails them. If they cannot afford to pay, the hospital writes it off to the tune of millions of dollars a year. The taxpayers are already paying for their healthcare so why not work to straighten this mess out on a separate program and leave the people who have and like their insurance alone. We do not owe illegals free medical care which they are currently getting through the ER at city hospitals. Also eliminate the state boundaries so insurance companies can compete with each other to lower cost.
Milk and bread was 19 to 22 cents, wages were $3 to $5 an hour. No health care at all. Along come unions and insurance. Ah-ha, the lawyers see another way to make money. (Tort reform). My point, everything goes up. Look at your pay stubs. Minimum wage is higher than their wages were. You know who is going to pay this health care! TAXES. Look at your pay stub now, It's less. How are the really needy people to pay for health care? Unemployment is running out of money. How are these people going to pay? Obama and his gang are so busy trying to make a name for themselves through health care the economy is going to pot. If you do not have the money, how can you spend it? Quit chasing your tail, wise up, and get this country going again.
When a person or child without health insurance goes to the hospital and is treated or operated on or whatever, who do you think pays their bill. YOU DO!! You will either pay now or later. That is why we need health care for all Americans. You are going to pay one way or the other.
dump it!Does that make me a racist?
SCRAP it & start over.
George M. is right. after health care get's attacked, i'm sure other things will get attacked. 2nd ammendment will not be too far. Obamanation might not take our guns away, but he will make it so difficult for us to get or even use our guns through regulation or tighter contorlls, that the 2nd ammendment will be useless. no way on earth is someone going to break into my house with my wife and kids and walk away from it. nor is any govt. body going to walk into my house and take them away from me.
Obama should know the American people do not want his Obamacare, but he is not smart enough to under stand that. Some one need to tell him. We don't need him to start any thing, every thing he has tryed to do has not come to life period. He has never done any thing and he want now, he is still hanging out with his bunch of crooks.
Wrong question! How can you scrap something that no one will accept? This should be put on the pile of excrement that is belongs with and left to rot. We need a new government, this change sucks. VOTE OUT THE RASCALS 2010.
does jeannie hatchett mean we should pay twice, since we pay at the ER anyway, and by all americans is she including illegals???? how about young healthy people that opt NOT to have insurance. they will be forced into coverage. this is how they did it in germany and russia...is this what jeannie wants. stick that one my dear.
Glenn Beck (2 n's) Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are pathological liars !
These kind of people are why young people are running from the republican party.
President Obama was left the U.S. Titanic after Bush and friends sank her. Obama is lifting Ms. U.S. up from the bottom of the ocean on his own two shoulders. We should nick name Obama , Barack "ATLAS" Obama
Obama will be the greatest president in U.S. history
Start over by voting all of them out of office before this country goes down the toilet!
How about scrapping the whole health care bill, and sending all of the illegals back to where they came from and as for OUR ADMINISTRATION in WASHINGTON, DC how about impeaching the whole of them from PRESIDENT and ALL OF CONGRESS and start over with ONE (1) SENATOR FROM EACH STATE AND ONE (1) REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH STATE and in so doing,remove as many as possible of the staff of the President, each Senator and Representative to help us get our USA back FINANCIALLY AND to what our forefathers meant it to be----The Land of the FREE and the BRAVE----It is God who sees us through all of our problems if we ask HIM ---and it is was and is our VETERANS who have fought and gave their lives, as well as those who are still fighting, for our FREEDOMS, and it is in GOD WE TRUST. Politics should not get involved in our Religious beliefs, in our schools nor in anything concerning our physical wealthfare. WE ARE NOT SOCIALISTIC NOR DO WE WANT SOCIALIZED MEDICINE OR ANY SOCIALIZED RULINGS IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. If our present Legislators and the President keep changing things we will soon become a Socialized and/or Communistic Nation. Obama is following the roles of the European Dictators who tried doing the same thing and as a result our European brothers and sisters have suffered greatly over the last 70 or more years
Just leave our health care alone- we love it.
Illegals should not be covered but Obama & his thugs will push them threw while citizens pays. We just had another hospital ER close last week.
Wake up America that voted for a guy that is making our country a Communist place to live.
No complaining when this takes place for its coming very fast.
Stop & think
How about scrapping the whole health care bill, and sending all of the illegals back to where they came from and as for OUR ADMINISTRATION in WASHINGTON, DC how about impeaching the whole of them from PRESIDENT and ALL OF CONGRESS and start over with ONE (1) SENATOR FROM EACH STATE AND ONE (1) REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH STATE and in so doing,remove as many as possible of the staff of the President, each Senator and Representative to help us get our USA back FINANCIALLY AND to what our forefathers meant it to be----The Land of the FREE and the BRAVE----It is God who sees us through all of our problems if we ask HIM ---and it is was and is our VETERANS who have fought and gave their lives, as well as those who are still fighting, for our FREEDOMS, and it is in GOD WE TRUST. Politics should not get involved in our Religious beliefs, in our schools nor in anything concerning our physical wealthfare. WE ARE NOT SOCIALISTIC NOR DO WE WANT SOCIALIZED MEDICINE OR ANY SOCIALIZED RULINGS IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. If our present Legislators and the President keep changing things we will soon become a Socialized and/or Communistic Nation. Obama is following the roles of the European Dictators who tried doing the same thing and as a result our European brothers and sisters have suffered greatly over the last 70 or more years
PARIS, France (CNN) -- Former first lady Laura Bush praised the performance of her husband's successor Monday, breaking with many Republicans in telling CNN that she thinks President Obama is doing a good job under tough circumstances.
The typically reserved former first lady defended Obama's decision to deliver a back-to-school speech to students, putting her at odds with many conservatives afraid that the president will use the opportunity to advance his political agenda.
"I think he is [doing a good job]," Bush said when asked to assess Obama's job performance. "I think he has got a lot on his plate, and he has tackled a lot to start with, and that has probably made it more difficult."
Michelle Obama is also "doing great," she said, in part by turning the White House into a comfortable home for her family. Watch more of the interview »
Referencing the uproar over Obama's address to schoolchildren, which will be aired nationwide Tuesday, Laura Bush said it's "really important for everyone to respect the president of the United States."
Bush indicated that she didn't think it was fair for Obama to be labeled a "socialist" by critics and expressed her disappointment with the intensely polarized nature of contemporary American politics.
Best in us history? are you freaking kidding me? Has anything he has tried succeeded yet. stimulous...failed miserable. cash for clunkers.....sure lots of cars sold to americans, but the dealers are still waiting for their money....failure. these so called czars.........loons and failures. health care will be his latest failure if it passes. debt will skyrocket, insurance companies will go under, small business will dry up because they will be the ones funding the stupid thing, unemployment will go way up, because of small business drying up (they do employ more than half of americans by the way) and whos left to clean it up? the next guy after obams one and only term is finished. don't blame this on bush, that's old news. sure bush caused some problems, i'm not going to deny that, but this started years back under sever other presidents, dems and repubs combined. we need to foget the blame game, there is too much to go around, and start working on a REAL solution for REAL problems. he's not doing that at all. He's causing way more problems that will make it nearly impossible to clean up.
Pathalogical lier? wow, you are really are blind and brainwashed. they haven't lied one single bit. they have just been presenting the facts that most politics are too scared to admit. Green czar.......all truth. good ridens to him. hopefully more to follow. voting on bills that haven't even been read. all truth. voting on bills that have hidden egenda built into them. all truth. but they wouldn't now because they didn't read them. finding the stimulous to somewhat lackluster in it's success (ok it's faild miserably) also truth. i see no lies to what they say. i follow the other news networks as well. they conveniently over look the obvious. It's not wonder fox ratings have skyrocketed over the past year. they are the only ones brave enough to actually say what needs to be said and do their part for this so called "change". Dan open your eyes, look at the world around you. you will see that he is not doing this country any good at all
Earth to Dan D...Earth to Dan D. Get out of your little dream world populated with non-existent super-heroes. Usually, if young people are running from something it's because the young person is short on knowledge and experience or they are truly shallow in the 'will' department (aka 'reluctantly lazy').
BECK, HANNITY, AND LIMBAUGH LIE'S !
Obama was a Muslim (LIE)
Obama was not born in the U.S. (LIE)
Obama is a socialist (LIE)
Obama hanging around with terrorist (LIE)
Obama would ne sworn in on the Koran (LIE)
Death Panals (LIE)
This is a short list !
Obama stimulus plan is woring stocks are going up every week now ! By 2010 Dow will be over 10,000 and the world will love democrats. Good luck in 2010 once Dow hit 10,000. Wall Street Journal just last week had a BIG story saying how Obama's Stimulus packages saved the U.S. from a DEPRESSION.
If the money that they have given out and want to give out ,for ALL kinds of unnecessary projects ,would be used for medicare and Social Security we would not have a problem with either!! We need to vote out everyone that has voted for this bill. There is very little in the bill that actually pertains to health care, an awfull lot of PORK!!!
In answer to Dan above- the Bush's has class. They do not put down past or current presidents.
They are not like the libers & Obama blaming eveything on Bush.
Dan D, is 48 married, both work, two kids 13 and 11, own a 3 bedroom Colonial, Timeshare in Disney World, two new cars, coach Little League baseball. I have friends and neighbors that have lost their jobs, healthcare, and sons in Iraq because of Bush and I want to help them as much as I can.
If you don't support Healthcare reform because of the sick and poor then do it to keep JOBS in America.
Large corporations are moving oversea because they can't afford the U.S. Healthcare system. Companies here can not compete with countries that have Universal Healthcare
George M. I do not advocate paying twice for people who go to the ER that do not have health insurance. I am advocating not paying as much! Even healthy young people have to go the doctor at least once a year in order to STAY HEALTHY. Healthy people and illigals are the minority in this country. The U.S. is a nation of OLDER people and we are getting older and sicker. PREVENTIVE heath care is essential. If you do not includge illegals how do we prevent more dangerous viruses from spreading and turning into epidemics in America. What will your health care costs be then? Besides, it is the large pharmaceutical and insurance companies that are against President Obama's healhcare plan. Do you actually think the American people have influence in this country? NO! It is Big Business.
First off, they didn't say most of those things, the born in us idea was never really solved because obama won't present an original birth cirt. (personally i don't think he was forign born...but that's a different story) They may not be called death pannels, but the provide the same idea as one. he does have a socialist like agend, thus calling him socialist isn't a far cry from being true. what else is social health care (social the root word is socialist/socialism) simple english. all other countries that have social health care are either of a socialist nature or are comunist. i don't like either option. he has hung out with those of a radical nature (other wise refered to as terrorist) they may not have done vile wicked harmful things, but they do believe the same ideals as those that do. i group them in the same department.
and if you are shallow enough to think that the stock market represents real success, then you are indeed ignorant. while the stock market is climbing and looking pretty decent, unemployment is going up...still..... and shows no sign of stopping. that's the true mark of success. there are only a handfull of people that are represented by the growth of the stock markent. small business is not, and that is what is getting killed and causing the unemployment to continue to rise. it is small business that still runs the country and most of it's economic success. you are so blind and shallow that you only look at the lage picture presented by the likes of the wall street journal. come out of your house, look at the real world and real people that represent the REAL America. They are not listed on the NYSE. if they were their number would be falling like rock. with more than half of the stimulous package still not even spent, i'd say it's the will and hard work of the REAL american people that have caused the market to rise, not that stupid package. it is a debacle. take the rest of the money and put it where it will actually make a difference. (like paying off debt...there's a thought.) economics 101.......DON'T SPEND MONEY YOU DON'T HAVE!!!!!! My 6 year old understands the concept. Adults in washington can't even get that concept, maybe my 6 year old is just a genious
Isn't it amazing that when citizens of this country have misgivings about this so-called healthcare reform the oposition always comes out callilng us bigots, racists, etc. Rather than giving us the respect we deserve and answering with positive arguments, they revert as they always have to "name calling". What does that say about their desire to upon freedom of speech?
B.Vanet10, what are you talking about "Vote them all out before this country goes down the toilet". This country is already going down the toilet and there is nothing you, the Obama Administration, the American people or anyone else can do to stop it! HAHAHA!
I am disappointed in some of these comments alleging that the opposition to the Obama healthcare is by prejudiced, uneducated, anti-American, etc. people. Common sense is the word and look at history. We can't afford healthcare for all, all don't want healthcare, illegal immigrants are not entitled to free healthcare here. Healthcare can be reformed in other ways to help the people and other plans have been presented. Also, it is obvious to anyone who can read that this administration is being led by radicals. Hide your head in the sand, facts are still facts. We don't radicals in any direction running our country. It is frightening that the dictator Chavez like our current administration and even Castro likes it. Think folks, think, please. Common sense!!!
Look at the choice of friends Obama has made (Ayres, Rev. Wright, Van Jones, AFLCIO, SEIU etc.) and you know all you need to know about Obama. You know a person by the company he keeps. This proposal takes care of his friends and screws the rest of us!
Dan D, is 48 married, both work, two kids 13 and 11, own a 3 bedroom Colonial, Timeshare in Disney World, two new cars, coach Little League baseball. I have friends and neighbors that have lost their jobs, healthcare, and sons in Iraq because of Bush and I want to help them as much as I can.
If you don't support Healthcare reform because of the sick and poor then do it to keep JOBS in America.
Large corporations are moving oversea because they can't afford the U.S. Healthcare system. Companies here can not compete with countries that have Universal Healthcare
KEY TO SUCCESS ! THE MORE PEOPLE I HELP THE BETTER I (you) DO ! If you want success you need to Network and help as many people as you can. This builds your reputation in your community and people then want to help you. Its amazing how many doors it has opened for me.
Ny sense is that the Administration and the Congressional Democrats are in such a hurry to push their plan through before the people realize what has been done to them. You can see that in the way they present their arguments that they are well aware that once the average folks figure out what has been done to them they will not support it. We gave them the message during this recess. The the Administration and the Congressional Democrats are showing this sense of urgency to get the job done inspite of the misgivings of their constituents. Our job is to prevent this "Health Care Reform", libearal style, from happening.
If I can get this to load PLEASE pass it on! This is exactly what is happening RIGHT NOW!
Mind Blowing Speech by Robert Welsh in 1958:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZU0c8DAIU4
Dan D: I have a friend up north who has a wife who works, 2 sons (same ages as yours), also coaches little league. He has two houses (neither being rented out to others), four cars ( two are 4X4), three ATVs, ocean going boat, and 32 ft motorhome (2005 model). He is currently making payments on ALL of these items and his four (4) credit cards. He just took a $20k cut in pay and his wife has been knocked back to part-time at her job. He actually OWNS nothing but DEBT. He's upside-down in everything. He is 'living' beyond his means, going on twenty years now. My suggestion to you is to get a tighter reign on your life...be extra careful where you spend money or encumber your good credit. Lose the Disney World timeshare ASAP (run an ad for a week in the London Times)...they can't seem to give them away locally (I'm 25 miles from there). Obama's healthcare should be a low priority for you.
jeanne,
i know all about health care. i lost my wife of 38 years 2 weeks ago at age 63. as a last resort to save her from pumonary fibrosis she was helicoptered to philly from dover nj. what scares me is would she have been written off as not worth a try to save her under obama??? she was on the double transplant list at UPENN. they tried everything, but complications got in the way. would the govt. option have gone that far to save my angel. not likely, and i don't want to find out when MY turn comes..as will YOURS. (she never smoked in case you were thinking SHE caused it)
Gerrie, what you don't seem to understand is that this country can no longer afford NOT to have health care for all. You are not going to be able to get rid of the illegals in this country and their numbers will continue to grow. It is cheaper to prevent an illness than it is to treat it. These same arguments were made when Social Security and Medicare came into existance. And please identify these so-call radicals you are talking about.
George M. First of all, you have my deepest condolences and I am truly sorry for your loss. However, what makes you think that this healthcare plan will "write people off that they feel are not unworthy"? Where are you getting this from? Some Insurance companies are doing just that already!! Some companies will even drop you if you become seriously ill. This healthcare bill will allow anyone who already has insurance to keep it and give those who don't have it, a chance to get it.
James, I hope things work out for your friend. I know a lot of people in the same boat. I agree everyone needs to watch their spending habits but I also know to have success there must be some risk. People always warned be not to get married, buy a house, have kids until I could afford it. If I waited I would have been alone right know with know one to reflect my life with.
I agree everyone needs to save but if you wait until the perfect time to do something you will end up a lonely man / woman.
GEORGE M. if you look into Obama Healthcare plan you would have had better insurance, better care and cheaper cost.
The Wyden-Bennett bill is worthy of support across the political spectrum. It only requires a small amount of actual thinking to see why it would work well. Congress needs to stop blowing back and forth with the wind, and actually represent by making an effort to comprehend, intellectually, what is good reform, why and how.
Wyden-Bennett.
Health Care is a want not a need.
d harper
2009-09-08 16:44:56 ET
Health Care is a want not a need.
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WHAT planet do you live on?
D. Harper, Do you have health insurance? If you don't who is going to pay if you have to see a doctor or go to the hospital?
Jeannie,
I opposed the Patriot Act and Iraq like crazy, and I'm an Independent Conservative.
When I didn't have health insurance I (ME) paid for my hospital and doctor...one time it took me 3 years... I am my own first responder, not the government...
Every PUBLIC (not private) hospital will either pay your entire bill (up to 2 times poverty level), put you on a graduated scale or let you pay on a payment plan.
Hospital bills are just like all your other bills.
Social Security? I will have paid for over 50 years for that Insurance Plan..it sucks, too.
Medicare? If its so good, why do HAVE to carry supplemental, individual insurance?
Government has no place in any of it.
What they "give" you, they can also take away...
We need to start by voting out every incumbant in 2010
Not only is health care reform needed a public option is a necessity. Without the public option the health insurance industry will continue to pick the pockets of American citizens and business to the tune of 17% of GDP. Control HC costs and we are truly underway to a real economic recovery. PS- Nobody is taking away anybody’s option to chose a doctor.
Ella, You have insurance that you will continue to have and you are lucky to be able to pay your medical bills. So what is your REAL problem with this healthcare plan? Please explain to me exactly how the government will dictate your health care for you. You are allowing the insurance companies to do it! So what you are telling me is that you would rather have BIG insurances companies dictating your health care instead of the government. Now I truly understand why this country is in the shape that it is in. The American people voted for change but it is clear to me that change is definitely NOT what they really want.
The government has already proven that it cannot be trusted and it doesn't know how to run any kind of system efficiently. Look at social security and medicare/medicad, all three are either broke or will be broke within 4 years. And where in the world in the constitution does it say that the government should be invloved in the economy like this? And how could we pay for this when we already owe more than a 11 trillion dollars?
We need to scrap this healthcare plan and this administration. Based on some of the comments, America is in trouble. The United States has a bigger idiot population than I thought. Obama has been successful in decieving a whole lot of people. Have you ever heard of "a wolf in sheep's clothing"? If not, take a good look at Obama. Heavenly Father, please help this country, in Jesus Name!
Yes, scrap all (not sure how many are floating around) and start over. Let the starting point be a health plan identical to the one the Congress enjoys and go from there. Why are we the taxpayers not as deseving as a bunch of failed ambulance chasers on the public dole?
Sean Kimbell,
You forget. Before Bush came into office, the government had a surplus. This shows you there are some people who know how to run the government. And when you speak about Social Security and Medicare being broken, try to take it away from the American people and see what happens! HAHAHAHA!
Tim,
You say that President Obama is a "sheep in wolf's clothing" and that his administration needs to be scrapped. He has been president for ONLY 10 MONTHS! I'll bet anything that you neven once mentioned the state of the country OR WHERE IT WAS HEADING during Bush's 8 YEARS!!!! LOL!
jeannie it's for that very reason that healthcare reform is not the only thing that needs reformed. we need govt. reform. we need to return this county back to a day when the govt. was OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE. large govt. historically has never worked. look at every major civilization over the past 2000 years. everytime a govt outgrows it's britches it falls hard and takes a large number of people with it. the Meads, persians, greeks, romans, germany, USSR. they all grew to the point that they fell in on themselves. America is heading that way, and when she falls, it's well be hard. be prepared. it will happen unless washington can get themselves under controll. that can only happen with the intervention of the people. not these dang freeloader that think the govt owes them something. i'm talking about the real people, the people that actually run this country, the people the pay the politicians bloated sallery, the people that pay a president. If someone were to fail at their job as our current president and other politicans are failing at their job, they would have been fired long ago. Man up america, grow some and tell them (dems and repubs) that we will not sit by, while they destroy everything that the world USED to look up to. they are turning us into a laughing stock. i guess that good side to that is, when it gets bad enough, the illegals will realize they had it better in their own country and go home. they currently run to america because we are the best nation on earth, you don't see them running to cuba or russia or even canada, the all come here because of what we have. this govt is changing all this is good.
From the desk of ......................
Ernest H. Hays
PO Box 7
Mars Hill, NC 28754
September 8, 2009
Mr. President & Congress
I am an entrepreneur and I have a suggestion for the health care issue.
Here is a list of points to consider so that everyone in America can have equal access to the best health care in the world.
1. Get rid of Medicare and Medicaid – think how much $$ that would save!!
2. Get rid of all “Veterans” hospitals – they’ll be able to get free healthcare from where ever they choose. Sell them to private companies.
3. Assign every legal citizen in the US to one of four “tiers” of health care cost. These will be divided up by annual gross income. Lowest tier, no income, disabled (qualify by three different physicians to meet criteria), or vets. Second tier, under $25k year – pays co-pay and 50%-75% rate discount. Third tier, $25k-50k year, pays small co-pay and 25%-50% rate discount. Fourth tier, $75 >, has no discount, no co-pay. These tiers are negotiable and rates are flexible for group incentives.
4. The entire medical industry would be taxed to pay for health care. Every drug company, every medical device or piece of equipment, and every medical service would carry a tax to pay for health care, not the government.
5. Every insurance company would get a full tax break on providing insurance to anyone in the first tier. That tax break is equal to whatever each person in tier one uses in medical care each year. That is incentive to get as many first tier citizens in their group as possible. Drug companies and medical equipment suppliers would also get a tax break (or direct deduction) for the exact cost of their product or service to anyone in the first tier.
6. Any group, employer, church, government agency, can qualify for group rates through any insurance company to save a citizen on monthly payments. Rates are competitive because insurance companies want larger groups. Employers, Congress, or whomever can offer their insurance for free as part of the company plan. But, someone has to pay the insurance company for them, even Congress’ would be paid for out of the budget.
7. Everyone has equal access to treatment center, drugs, and physicians that are medically necessary. All elective products and services are absolutely self pay.
8. Incentives given for wellness programs, weight loss, long term health credits.
These are just the beginning foundational points to consider. I have a complete dissertation and would be able to help iron out the entire policy if asked.
Thank you
Ernest H. Hays – Entrepreneur (PS-these suggestions will be widely distributed)
This health care bill was DOA. It's time to scrap it and focus on Tort Reform. George Herbert Walker Bush brought that idea up in the 80's. However, I think that would be too tough of fight for congress.
In short, I like my health care coverage. I got it the old fashioned way: I worked hard in public school, then college, and interviewed for a job that had a good benefits package. That's the way we do it hear in non-socialized America.
Scrap the whole healthcare bill plus congress and all the czars this isnt russia
"Obama's health care plan has been written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it and whose members will be exempt from it, signed by a president who smokes, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that is broke." Don't know who wrote this, but it says it all. SCRAP it, Write something everyone can understand, make sure everyone, including congress uses it if it is a public option.
response to cordell Ferrell
>>Ask Obama to explain his LIE about "GREEN JOBS". This guy is a propagandist with mindless people that believe his lies. What a shame!
right, because there has NEVER been a Republican that lies.
Larry Rutland is an idiot!
It is time to not only look at health care but what our country is founded on, sure not what this administration has been pushing. We need to get back to where our founding fathers intended it to be. It has worked for over 200 years, yes there needs to be some correction but lets not change it just for change sake.
Obama needs to get out of the business of trying to control everything and
I would not trust him to redo this bill as he would put something in it in the
middle of the night and try and slip it in on us. He needs to get all the pork
out of the bill, OPen up competition between all health insurance companies.
Govt. has no business trying to run our health insurance, they always mess
things up when they get involved.
Larry Rutland,,,,,,, Go on buddy drink the kool aid, Go into the light. This station has proven it's self to be a reliable source for fair and balance reporting. All the other stations are not reporting balanced on any of the topics that concern a difference of opinion with this administration. Gerbals did the same thing for Hitler.
Drink up Bud.
The Health Care Plan should be scraped. If you look at all the things going on in the White House with all of his so called czars, and there mostly a bunch of raticals. We the people would like to take our country back. As for his speech to our children in schools all over. The reason there were so many against it, was what can we do for him? not only that, but he changed his script in a hurry as soon as people found out its all a political move. Grant, Mrs Bush did say that he should talk to the children but he had to remove some wording out of his so called speech, in my opinion for it to be exceptable. The Government is suppose to be working for us, not the other way around.
Dan and others like him - you people are living in a dreamworld. Wake up and look at the facts. This present administration is out to "socialize" america. Is that what you really want? Forget about race, etc. Thats not what this is about at all - its about the EU and bringing America down at any cost. If you are truly an american and have the least bit of patiotism, you would forget about all the issues that these people are trying to use to cause division, and look for things that would help America stay together and remain a FREE country. I believe the people that are behind the whole mess don't even live here in America.
The Health Care Plan should be scraped. If you look at all the things going on in the White House with all of his so called czars, and there mostly a bunch of raticals. We the people would like to take our country back. As for his speech to our children in schools all over. The reason there were so many against it, was what can we do for him? not only that, but he changed his script in a hurry as soon as people found out its all a political move. Grant, Mrs Bush did say that he should talk to the children but he had to remove some wording out of his so called speech, in my opinion for it to be exceptable. The Government is suppose to be working for us, not the other way around.
Another step towards socialism........Why do you think Canada, England, Germany and others are laughing at us? Because they have a plan like Obama's and they know it does not work. How would you like to be diagnosed with prostate or breast cancer and have to wait at least 6 months to START treatment.....WAKE UP AMERICA.....!!
Why don't they fix the problems with social security, medicare, and Indian healthcare BEFORE they move onto National healthcare? Typical democrat answer, don't fix the problem, make another one.
Anything as important as a health care bill needs to be bi-partisan and not representative of the extremes of either party. The Obama health care bill is unacceptable to most Americans and should not be forced upon us. It is time to scrap the present bill and start anew, this time including Republicans.
Do people not realize that we are driving our country into communism because americans are not smart enough to see past go? Let me turn you blind people onto some real speak for a moment. Saul Alinsky wrote a little book called "Rules for Radicals". Obama was a study of Saul Alinsky's teachings and even taught community organizers on Alisnskys beliefs. Alinsky was a bleeding marxist and taught ways to hide behind CHANGE and bring forth communism/marxism. The government has proven to be unreliable in running ANYTHING efficiently. Fanny Mae, Social Security, Medicare, etc are proof that the last thing this country needs is another government intrusion into your homes. Barrack Obama is not who he says he is people. WAKE THE FK UP AMERICA before it's to late. If Obama's associations arent enought to scare you then you really are blind. Obamacare is just another attempt to obtain power. Our car industry has been intruded, banks have been intruded, healthcare will be intruded and this has been done without a wimper and if you disagree well then your just a racist bigot right? Go to wikipedia and look up Rules for radicals and you will know where Obama comes from and what he see's as the future of America. Preaching Change is not a new idea. This book is a blueprint of a government takeover and how to achieve it and these are teachings that Obama learned and taught as a community organizer. Look it up, its right on wikipedia for all to read. By the way, Saul Arlinsky devoted his book to "Lucifer" The original and most notable RADICAL of all time.
Mr. Rutland,
Obama's plan is going down so hard that Democrats are going to be jumping parties like rats off a sinking ship.
If you want to live in a socialist country you have from which you can choose. If you want health care.... pay for it-it's not tricky.
Obama and his liberal minions of Pelosi, Reid & Yarmuth do not want real health care reform to fix the current system. They want to change the healthcare system to a Government run system. They really want a complete takeover of the healthcare system which is "nationalized healthcare". Yarmuth stated on a teleconference call to democrats in Ky. in August 09 that he wanted a one payor system and the Govt.Run Option is the best way to get it. They really don't care what the people of America think. Yarmuth even stated he would vote for it even if he was not re-elected and he would consider that a "badge of honor".
Typo Correction: Mr. Rutland, you have many socialist countries from which you can choose. I did not want you to miss my point.
JOel,,
Rutland already missed the point. Did you read his comments? There’s no talking to people like him. I doubt he's ever been wrong.
EVERYONE IS ALREADY A SOCIALIST IN THE U.S. (Including Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh)
Public education. Public health agencies. School lunch programs.
Social Security. Student loans. Medicare.
Temporary Assistance to Needy Families. Public libraries. Medicaid. Food stamp program.
Head Start. Farm subsidies. Farm price supports. Unemployment compensation. Work-related injury insurance. HUD.
WAKE UP REPUBLICANs, people use words like socialist to scare the cr@p out of you
CM
>>Dan and others like him - you people are living in a dreamworld. Wake up and look at the facts. This present administration is out to "socialize" america. Is that what you really want? Forget about race, etc. Thats not what this is about at all - its about the EU and bringing America down at any cost. If you are truly an american and have the least bit of patiotism, you would forget about all the issues that these people are trying to use to cause division, and look for things that would help America stay together and remain a FREE country. I believe the people that are behind the whole mess don't even live here in America.
yea right, and shared expenses of public schooling, public roads, public parks isn't considered socialism because....?
face it America has never been "America" but rather a mixture of the many different cultures of the world. we have socialism already it's just that some of us are too incompetent to realize it.
and what is your definition of "patriotism"?
to blindly follow the republican views?
to hold fast the Christian values?
values which I might add have caused just as many
wars as any other religion out there?
why don't you grow up and face the facts.
patriotism is just as much a hoax as America is.
it is nothing more than a sham to keep the sheep in line.
I have no problem with america turning into a democratic/socialist
community seeing as how this isn't the cold war
and America already is just that..
"Rules for Radicals"
Saul Arlinsky
Barrack Obama
What do they have in common? Do your research.
The government bankrupts everything it touches....Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, social security, Medicaid, Medicare, US postal service, etc. How can anyone think that they will do a better job running health care.
I believe everyone that votes for this health reform should also be required to be covered under the same plan they vote for the American People. This is not a racist thing; it is whether this health reform is right or wrong and it is wrong. The government should not be controling our health insurance. They cannot even fix medicare and look at the post office which is in trouble. Our country is in a mess and no one to fix it. God Bless America.
the health care plan needs to start fresh. write in a language that can be understood(it was stated why read it-you only have a few hours to do this and then you need a lawyer) it clearly states in the bill that can be read online that there wil be rationing. there will have to be. there is no way that many people(not as many as stated but still alot) can be added without adding more doctors immediately. plus the cost will be tremendous. Where will this extra money come from in this economy when adding taxes will really hurt everyone. The bill needs to state that illegal aliens are to be excluded. They are here illegally and haven't contributed to the system for years like the senior citizens have. american workmen need the jobs being taken by illegals. i don't buy that americans do not want these jobs. take the time to study a good plan. why the rush.
To reduce health care cost the government must allow the free market to work. Let people purchase health insurance the same way they purchase car insurance. This will allow the health care insurance agencies to compete nationwide. Why promote a 'Public' Government Option that only provides for one additional source when all you need to do is allow for all insurance agencies to compete across state lines. This administration wants to change from capitalism to socialism.
Some say this bill will be Medicare for all. If so -- well and good. Have they been paying into it for 40 + years if so they might have a claim to its benefits. And even after doing so my wiife and I sitll have to pay almost a $100 a month each (automatically deducted from my Social Security benefit which I paid into for over 40 years as well as a small retirement benefit) for our Medicare benefits. I am also retired military and was promised great benefits if I made it a career. Those benefits were earned at great cost (long family separations, etc. and low pay compared to the private sector and marginal health care at best which had to be turned over to medicare once I turned 65). That only reveals one thing government run options are more expensive in the long run than what the private sector provides and poor quality in the end. When all those who want a universal health care plan cough up the money (they would have paid in up to thier current age and begin paying the monthly premiums I might be willing to say they have earned such care. Until then let's just work on those things that can be done without a government take over. One thing I learned in the military is that the most permanent things where at first intended to be temporary. And besides just how stupid does our President and our legislators think the American people are? answer: As stupid as they are. Well, guess what -- we are not. Be prepared to find a new job in the real world. Oh, but I forgot you have a much better retirement than any military person could ever expect after 20 plus years and you get yours after only one term in office.
I must admit I am an idealist; but having ideals are what made our founders and others visionary people. This is how I see it.
Mr. Obama and his followers woud like to think he is the leader of this country; he is not. The people are the leader of this country; he is our servant, our employee. Just like in any other working situation: the employee is obligated to understand the will of the employer. As for me, I don't want to see this country become more socialized, I feel the people and industries can govern their lives better able to govern their lives than a tyrant who lives off the public coffers.
This health care situation is the catalyst we need to remind the world that the U.S. is a country made of free-thinking people, not the subjects of tyrants.
Hey people,
What has happened to this country?
Where is this thing, we call freedom?
What they are proposing is socialism.........
Take off the blinders....
YES SCRAP IT. I lost my job here in Hawaii and now I am covered by med-quest, because I am on unemployment. I still have the same doctor and everything is exactly same. I don't know why Obama is pushing this health-care crap in our faces, when we need JOBS. His number one concern at this point in time is creating JOBS for us Americans. One more thing, he really needs to clean-up the crowd he is running with, what a bunch of scum-bags.
Dan,
All of the comments left by people who are mistakenly calling President Obama and his followers "socialists" would rather have a goverrnment that is run by Big Business = FASCISM!
I voted no in the poll - I don't want congress or Obamination to start over, I want them to attempt to force this pile of cr@p down our throats or drop it all together. Please, please vote for it you brainless, gutless Dimmicrats and RINOs! After you do, I want to see the looks on your faces every time a constituent calls your office, and especially the day after the next election when you find out you're now just a blip in the unemployment statistics you helped create!
So Jeannie,
Are you saying that the government has been successful in running social security, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, etc?
People look at the present situation and say what should be done with health care. Going beyond the news stations and the parties do your own research. I suggest people go one to the public support sites for any major disease. Many of these sites have world wide particiapation. The people and parents join these sites for suport. I have been on one for over 9 years. What do you tell a parent that has a child that needs medical attention and needs to wait 3 months and travel to get the help. In our country even if we need change in our health care we can get in to see a Dr. or contact a MD for help. Some of these medications need monthly or sooner medical intervation if the drugs need to be adjusted or changed. I feel so much for those parents in other countries watching thier child suffer because they can not see a MD specialist until one ia available and have to travel and stay over at hotel to see the specialist. Again this is not imaginary I have seen it time and again in other countries. I know what we were going through watching our child suffer and visits to emergency rooms. Constant calls to MD for help. Getting second opions when we were not sure a specialist was available. These things we take for granted are not avaiable in other countries. Yes, we are in debt with medical bills and lost work hours. We are just getting out of our medical debt. The system needs reform and I do not thing the bill as it stands hold up enought to bring about the kind of reform we need. Yet, something needs to be done that is something mostly everyone agrees on. We seem to differ on what that is.
The system needs reform only it scares me that educated and poeple in the field can not totally understand the bill . It should be done and it was not generatedby those that undestand what type of reform needs to be done.
Sadly it hurts that the reform and the cost will only reach a small portion of the those not covered. Not to mention the cost of the bill.
Also I do know people whe do not carry coverage and do that by choice. I am not sure why because they have the money to pay for it. They see that those time they are sick they just have to pay for that session.
There is a lot to think about this situationa personally I do not think enough time; investigation; and debate was done on this bill to even fine tune the bill. Look at many of the problems found in the current government and non government systems.
Discussion is good it brings out everything to the front. I do not think it needs to go on forever only it would be helpful to debate and investigate all sides from all sides. If we agree or not what can it hurt?
Reform is needed and many of us believe that iit s needed and all sides, even us every day people have a right to a jour imput since we are paying for the bill if it passes and have voted for our representives. So they are responsible to hear imput on all sides.
Things that are hidden or are hard to understand by even educated people or those in the field are a clue that it needs to be re-addressed again. Why is debate and re-evaluation bad?
If it is good for the country then no one should be upset if it is scrutinized by others because it should be able to stand up to debate. It should stand up by the test of questions. Our past tells us we question an debate things in congress trying to get the best choice. So again if the bill is good it should hold up to debate by the country. That is demacracy in action.
I hope we can come up with something that works with out losing our rights of choice that can hold up to the common debate of the congress and the people.
I just challange people to check the truth of other health systems for themselves. Many sites have years of history availble for support and resource for its particiapants. There are many public support sites out that are availbe to check. Educating yourselves!
Jeff E.
PLEASE! The initial constitution and the words "For the People.....etc" only meant white men who owned land (did it mean the native Indians?). That's why it has been amended so many times....to include all people. And fallen civilizations did not fall because of big government but corrupt governments that excluded the rights of its people. The majority of American people are on drugs, prescription drugs and alcohol and therefore can no longer think for themselves or REASON. So they listen to the news commentators to tell them what they should think. Stop blaming poor people, illegals or presidential administrations for the failing of this nation. Blame the mindless American people.
Reforming health care should only entail reforming the health care INSURANCE companies. They made a fortune last year, and the year before, and the year before... When my doctor coded a minor procedure (preventative tooth filling) on the insurance forms, it was rejected. When the forms were resubmitted with the SAME title but a slightly different code, it was covered. Thankfully, I had a dentist willing to resubmit a claim. Insurance companies always make plenty of money each year. Check out the endless stories on 60 minutes, etc. showing where people have been denied life-saving meds because no generic is available and the pills cost too much. Many times, people must resubmit claims and go throught endless appeals to get approved when it should have been approved at the onset. This is usually accomplished by threatening lawsuit. Don't take my word for it, ask your doctors what they think. They hate what is being proposed.
Jeff E
I am an Apache, and in my eyes you are a illegal citizen also.
Talk about buffoons. You guys at FOX are clueless.
At least I am not an addict like you.
Reform needed? You bet but not the kind that is currently being proposed. Before we do anything else let them demonstrate that they can fix what's already broken; tort law, fraud and defensive medicine. If (and it's a big if) they can actually demonstrate that they've cleaned up the current mess then we can discuss other reforms and how to pay for them.
The blind leading the blind.
Distribution of wealth...yeah thats fair to the working class and middle class who earn there keep. It's bad enough that everything earned get's an imposed death tax. Now you want me to provide my tax dollars to people who are lazy, illegal, and others who turn down healthcare for the small percentage who can't afford it and even most of those are provided some form of care already. This country is in a sad state.
"Rule for Radicals"
Saul Arlinsky
Barrack Obama
What do they have in common? Research
So now we are attacking the men who wrote the constitution as racist white men? Is that all liberals have left is to call someone a racist bigot because they dont agree with Barrack Ofailme. That's all i hear nowadays and it's truly sad considering that 93pct of african-americans voted for Barrack Ofailme. Obama is doing nothing but setting race relations back instead of moving them forward with his attacks on republicans and town hall protestors for not agreeing with his marxist policy's by calling anyone who disagrees a racist bigot when 93 pct of african-americans voted for him....and we are the racist? Dear god...please help our country.
"Rules for Radicals"
Saul Arlinsky
Barrack Obama
What do they have in common? Research
FYI check out the history of the parties both Democratic and Republican. You will see the transformations that took place over time. The parties have even changed since I was younger. What they stood for also changes. History shows the evolution of each party. I think many would be surprised at what each party believed as time went by. Sometimes we live to much in the present and we ignore our history. No one group is perfect or has all the ideas. Change can be good and bad due to evolution over time. Check it out.
We need change in health care the question is who should do the change and who is going to be responsible for that change. We the people need to do our own investigations and find answers.
The bill as it stand now has to many issue with it and needs to be changed or thrown out depending on what changes the law makers are willing to do. That could help us make a better decision on what needs to be done and we the people can live with.
Scrap it, redo it with mandantory TORT reform, Health Reform good idea, but method proposed to employ it adds to much financial burden on the public, oh yeah, if reform then have all members in congress, executive branch and judicial branch subscribe, otherwise, good luck on passing anything else and this.
We don't have to worry about Osama Bin Laden bringing down our country, he has Obama tearing it down for him. How many people that "voted for change" now wish they could take back that vote? Obviously a lot of people since Obama's popularity is dropping faster than terminal velecity. So for the left wing idiots ranting on how "We won therefore we can do anything we choose" I have news for you. This is a democracy and we all see you left winged nut jobs crowing. Your only hope is to hurt this country enough before you get voted out starting in 2010.
How long do you think we will have doctors if they get paid between 15 and 28% of the charges? That is what they pay for Medicare and TriCare (retired military) insurance. Wake up America, this has nothing more to do than make us entirely responsible to the government and they would have our hands tied. It won't take long for all of o's plans to come to play. This is just scary!!!!! I say "Get rid of all 535 of them"
HEY LARRY RUTLAND,
Why is it that if i disagree with the "Marxist" Obama i am a bigot? I believe in the CONSTITUTION. He does not , nor do his Followers. You are a Socialist. You probably have two brothers named DARREL.
If the Republicans truly want to see a Health Care plan, then it will be done. If the Republicans can think of the needs of the American people first and set aside there ego just once, then a Health Care plan will begin. I am willing to pay more taxes to make sure each American citizen has health care. We can do this!
Of course we should start over. When you start with a bad idea often we must start over. And this is a bad idea!!!! I don't need Big Daddy government to make my decisions for me. I am perfectly able to do that for myself. When did government ever do something right? Why do people call my viewpoint dumb and cite Medicare (bankrupt!) and Social Security ( bankrupt, also!) as a reason we should further our problems by turning over our helath care to him and his cronies. Or anybody and their cronies. NO THANKS11111
Get rid of everyone in politics today and start over with new guys/gals. Do not cater to the big industries that just want more breaks so they can have bigger profits. Make all illegals leave or become a citizen and pay taxes like the rest of us. No more free rides. I think we have it backwards, make the illegals pay taxes and the citizens get the free ride. We fought and others died for our freedom. Put up or get out. Reformed heatlh care is just another legal scam brought to us hard working Americans by the government. I am not a republican, democrat, or an independent. Just your average Jane wanting a better life like everyone else. Thank goodness I can go back to college on tax payers money. The only benefit I get.
Obama and the Dems tried to rush through this horrible comprehensive healthcare takeover, that won't take effect for several years, giving these morons political cover and Americans would be screwed. Now these morons want a second chance to screw over Americans again. I don't think so.
With premiums of $79.95 and $249.95 per month for single and family coverage, what is the big deal? Where are these premiums found? Global Health Care. Maybe health care should start here? No exclusion for pre-existing --- what more do people want? They pay to go to the moives, to eat out, to 'have fun', what is wrong with paying for their own health care premiums?
Hey Dan D. You say you have timeshare and other crap out there in the world? Hmm, I feel sorry for you when you will have to sell all those things if Obama supposed wonderful health plan goes in to effect.
And there may not be physical proof of Death Camps or whatever it is called, but it will be proven when my granny who is 81 years ends up dying because she is "too old" to receive help should she have another heart attack or stroke or something life threatening
So now, not only do we have a socialist bastard for a President, but now he is going to be a black "Jack Kevorkian" yea, we are going to hell.
WHY DOES OBAMA WANT TO MESS UP MY HEALTH CARE ?
HE TOTALLY RUINED AND DESTROYED THE GREAT USA BETWEEN
2001 AND 2008
HUSSIEN O WIPED US OUT AND NOW HE IS GOING FOR MORE
I AM HORRIFIED THAT PEOPLE LET OBAMA CONTINUE ON
THIS PATH OF EVIL
Once we had the Republicans Democrats and the raciest Dixiecrats. Now we have Democrats, Republicans and the raciest Dixiecans. It is not about a health plan where all can be helped along with the system, it's not about a President talking to school kids, it is about the WASP community running the country for 400 years and really screwing it up through greed, arrogance and vanity. It is about a President who is black nad there is no way he can be allowed to succeed. Especially, he is not going to tell us whites how to raise their kids. It is all about race. the only sane Republican is Laura Bush. As for Cheney, his methods prevented no attack. Any smart person knows they can kill us in Iraq and Afganistan and build converts. . Why would they attck when they are causing us problems. Get out of those countries. The "window of opportunity" in Afganistan was in 1991. They knew an attack in the United States would bring a full effort and it would be "Remember the Maine", "Remember Pearl Harbor" all over again. Cheney and Bush blew it by forgetting the mission. Let us get real and stop all the raciest bull and get this country going again where it should be. BY THE WAY TO THE DIXICANS- BY CALLING YOURSELVES REPUBLICANS HAS LINCOLN ROLLING OVER IN GRAVE AND CRYING OVER WHAT PEOPLE HAVE DONE TO HIS PARTY THAT HE WAS KILLED BECAUSE OF WHAT HE BELEIVED. Pass this on to Rush, Beck and the others.
One more thing, all you Bush bashers on this board, did he triple the deficit, no, in fact, he tried to do what he could to lower it, and then we get Obama who is going to quadruple the deficit if not more with all these frivelous crap he is trying to put on us.
And I agree with other people who cant stand Obama, how are we racist when we disagree with him. Who cares that he is Black, I dont, what I do care about is his conducts, policies, standards, and anything else that has us shaking our heads because he is screwing up our country
LMAO, yet another liberal with the racist bs and propoganda. The true racist are the republicans of color who voted for mr obama strictly on race. Considering 93pct of african americans voted for obama....I think its fair to say that it's not just WHITEY who is racist. When liberals dont have a leg to stand on...they attack. Typical trash from the leftist liberals who think they deserve free handouts.
Oh but Jeremy, if we didnt have democraps running our country to Hell, they would have to pay for those handouts, heaven forbid they do that.
By the way, I guess because I didnt vote for Obama, and oppose pretty much everything he inks or has his spawns ink, I am a Racist White Terrorist Bastard
Isnt that what Racist A-hole Rev. Wright and Pelosi said about us?
Obama's health care plan is a great and fair solution. It is time that people other than rich republicans got a chance at good health caring.
Of course your a racist bigot. I mean...isn't every conservative? Heaven forbid a white man vote against distribution of wealth and the ideology behind the free handouts the leftist agenda promotes. Heaven forbid we disagree with Marxist policies that taught America how to tax and take from the rich. Heaven forbid we stand up for our country against foreign invaders only to be bashed for that years later. Heaven forbid being proud to have not only serving at war or having served but continuing my work for the military and actually enjoy it. I must be a racist bigot.
"Rules for Radicals"
Saul Arlinsky
Barrack Obama
What do they have in common?
First off Jeremy, thank you for honorably serving this country. I salute you.
As for the commonality of the 2 names you mentioned, what they have in common is nobody gives a rat's patooie?
HAHAHAH
Merreck....Free handouts sounds good huh. Just remember....Nothing comes free. Somebody pays for it. This isnt some fairytale. Taking from people who EARN to give to your local drug dealer who doesnt have healthcare or your local illegal aliens who don't pay taxes isnt my idea of a good time. Government has done nothing to prove that they can do anything but run something into the ground. Sorry Charlie
Thats the problem WB. Obama taught his policys as a community organizer. This man dedicated his book "Rules for Radicals" to Lucifer who he deemed the first true Radical. If you go on Saul Arlinskys wiki page it clearly states what he stood for and what Obama has been schooled in. The man was an avowed communist and Obama was a student. Just continuing the education of those who arent made aware.
Thx for the salute. As much as i dislike Obama....i love my country and the platform it provided Obama is proof that we have a great country but his policies and agenda's where written 101 out of "Rules for Radicals". As much as he preached he would be bi-partisan....he has been the most liberal, most left, politician of all time and it will cost the Dems in 2010.
Rock the Vote
Obama is great! You republicans just can't stand how good a job he is doing. He is getting the Arab nations on our side. He wants everyone to be healthy, not just rich folks. He cares about school children and takes time to reach out to them. He wants this to be an fair and equal USA for every person. mark my words, obama will go down in history like ghandie, lincoln and other great americans.
President Obama promised us several things during the campaign; one of them being open, available, and transparent. Whether we like him or not, we have to be honest and admit that he has failed to offer these things in his administration.
Also, poll after poll show that the vast majority of the voting public is very against his health care reform package, yet he promises he will get it done anyway, and then calls those who disagree with him demeaning names! It is not the Republicans who has put Obama in a bad light .... it is Obama who has put himself in a bad light.
He is hell-bent on seeing his personal agendas be put into place, no matter the affect it has on the people of this nation or this nation itself. In all honesty, I blame the politicians of both parties, because now is the time to STOP being politically correct, and start impeaching Obama!
Just my opinion, but I am sticking to it.
Obama is great? The man is a narccist egocentric person who give's to shits about you. Do you not get that? He cares about Obama, when he held his town hall, he wouldnt let anyone talk. He likes to hear himself talk. He associates himself with known radicals and believers of communism and eco science who are believers in population control similar to china with forced abortions. Yes, he is doing a wonderful job....of attacking any person who disagrees with him. The stimulus package is doing such a wonderful job. Yes...all the terrorist nations love Obama. Why, because they are free to do what they wanna do. Just like the Clinton years. Being soft on terrorism is just what this country needs right? Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro Love some Obama....I wonder why? Obama will be out by 2012. My calendar is marked.
Merrick - I am not a Republican or a Democrat. I take no political sides. I look at what the individual consists of, and Obama promises, but look at what he promises. He cannot give to everyone equally, because the resources must come from those who have them to give. That would be like my telling you to give my family $50.00 each week because you can afford to since you make more than we do. That is good on paper, but that is as far as it goes.
Also, the Arab nations will NEVER be an ally to a nation who is not Islamic. It will just not happen. Are you Muslim? If you aren't, you'd better pray we never end up being pro-Islamic! I have lived around Muslims and worked with them for years .... they are true believers, but what they believe in is a purely radical society of Islam, and if you aren't Islam, you will be dead. Period.
And you mark MY words .... America will either get rid of Obama, or we will fall quicker than anyone here thinks we could.
Wake up and read the front page, not just the comics section, my friend.
Obama is moving the country forward in ways people HAVE NOT EVEN THOUGHT OF. Like for example why should someone make more money that works less hours just because it is an "important" job?? you should be paid for the hours you work not based on what you do! Tthat would be so much farer and people wouldn't feel bad because they had "lesser" jobs. they could make more money by working much longer. obama will lead us to fairness like this. it will take a long while but we will get to a nation where all will be happy and we will all get along with the world. You are thinking so small typical republicans who can't see the big picture, how life can be better for everyone eveon someone who lives on the street now. Think about it!
Raising wages for small jobs does nothing but kill small buisness who can't afford to cover those inflated wages because it cuts out there income. So those people have to raise the price of goods to cover costs. Also, they will be required to afford healthcare for those who work for them. Also, driving up cost. So in the end....the taxpayer takes it in the bum. Like Always. You think a trashman should make the kind of wages that someone who goes to college, earns there degree, and becomes something that betters america merrick. You really dont have a clue. This country is being bankrupt by the rediculous spending already providing more deficit in 10 months than Bush cleared in 8 years...even with the war. Crazy aint it. Got to give back to those people who put Obama there. Van Jones was not an accident. Obama knew exactly what he was getting with Mr Jones.
Merrick - what you propose about the wage someone receives for the hours they work is right out of the Communist Manifesto. Free enterprise made this nation great, and taking it away will make us like every other nation who has fallen. Is that what you want?
Judging by what you have written, I would say you are in your 20's-30's, non-Christian, and having a job that barely pays your expenses .... and you desperately want something more without having to make the sacrifices necessary to get it.
I do not mean to demean or dis you ..... but I do mean to make it clear that nothing is free, and when we expect to be babysat by our government, we end up giving away everything that we cherish and end up being puppets and slaves to that government. Look around you at world history and see if you'd rather live somewhere else than in America. (And if, by any chance you do, it would be a nice time to move there.) America - love it, support it, or leave it, but do not try and change it.)
Merreck:
Holy Cow!! I have never written to a real communist before. I can't believe you said "You should be paid for the hours you work and not for what you do"? Not in this country and over my dead body. Earning a higher wage is one of the incentives medical students spend many years in med-school, internship, and residency. Their specialized training is one of the reasons they deserve more per hour than the rest of us.
I agree, many medical practices are overpriced. However, I also believe you get what you pay for.
Whats sad is Merreck truly believes these things just like alot of other leftist. They think distribution of wealth is fine and dandy. A doctor who goes to med-school for 8 years should you know, give away his money because well even though he has earned it, the local trashman is struggling so he should share that wealth. Thats fair right.
I am so greatful that we have Fox News!!!!! It is time for Oama to clean house. He is not a leader & never will be. We should have listened to Hillary when she said Obama had no experience in running anything. How true & sad that we have to endure him for another 3 years.For CNN & all the other media it is time for them to wake up to what is going on & come clean with the american people.
Present system is not sustainable if all are to have an equal access to healthcare. And since we ALL will be on the receiving side, the healt care should be a right of every citizen...just contrary to what some apoplectic entertainers would suggest.
I am more than certain that the vast majority of those who are so strongly opposed to the changes had never read a single word of the proposed reform...for it is much easier to replicate not too complicated slogans thrown at them rather than to form a well researched opinion.
DC wants to run another 16% of our economy. Check their track record. Social Security - BROKE! (LBJ raided those monies to fund the Vietnam fiasco, another DC success story.) Medicare - BROKE! Post Office - BROKE! Amtrak - BROKE! Many huge financial institutions including Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - BROKE BECAUSE OF DC MEDDLING! The next several generations taxed beyond reason and BROKE! All this to pay for the graft and waste we continue to endure today. And yet those who should be representing us instead of trying to rule us continue to attempt to expand entitlements and the size of government. We are saddled with the government we have allowed to evolve. It will destroy the country as we have know it, destroy incentive, destroy capital and jobs. STOP THE MADNESS. WRITE/CALL/EMAIL, and if your Senator or Congressperson fails to respond in some rational fashion, work diligently to replace them in the 2010 elections and beyond.If the whole gaggle of them were replaced tomorrow with random selections from the phone book, could we be any more poorly represented? And FOX, have an intern check the spelling in your question which reads"...scap these bills and..."
I AM TOTALLY PEEVED AT OBAMATRON
THIS GUY IS SICK
NOW HE WANTS TO RUIN HEALTH CARE
HE OBLITERATED SOCIAL SECURITY BETWEEN 2001 AND 2008
HIS PALS POCKETED 500 BILLION OF THE FIRST MEDICARE BAILOUT
LIED US INTO THINKING WE WOULD MAKE MONEY ON HIS WARS
WHAT A ROTTEN MARXIST COMMIE LIAR
Impeach Obama and vote again.
Don't let Commie obamie fool you .. he's dead set on bringing down America as we know it.
Mac
Oh, sure and lets increase the fine to 3800 dollars a day instead of yearly to those that do not believe or want it. That should go a long ways toward paying for the program and also help in taking more of peoples freedom to choose to have or have not. Of course the cost of mandatory insurance using auto insurance as an example will quadruple within a couple of years.
We live our lives day to day trying to maintain a healthy life style. Health care therefore is one of the most important issues in our day to day lives. Health care reform is something that we as a nation should do together. There are so many sides to this issue, that I believe, we as Americans are losing sight of the goal of health reform. The White House and Congress have also lost sight of the goal for reform. We all need to take a step back, take a deep breathe, and re-look this reform. Only then will the country truly benefit and the our government will have the smallest amount of intervention in the end.
Some people just don't get it. This is not about reforming health care. It's all about controlling our lives. I know, it's easier for some people to believe the Obama lies than think for themselves.
THERE SHOULD BE TORT REFORM
ALL THESE FRIVILOUS LAWSUITS ARE DRIVING UP THE COST
OF HEALTH CARE
P.S. , FUCK ALL OF YOU (DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN) IF YOU THINK
WE STILL DO NOT DESERVE TO INCREASE YOUR RATES
I voted NO to the question should the present plans be scraped and "start over". NO - I don't want the government to start over - I don't want the government trying to pass a health care plan PERIOD ! If the government really wanted to reduce the cost of health care I would be for it - but, all the Dems want is a "single payor plan" and control of our lives. If they were serious they would tackle (1) tort liability reform (2)allow purchasing health insurance across state lines (3) allowing tax deduction on premiums for individuals as well as businesses (4) encourage Doctors; Hospitals & Drug Manufacturers to play a contributing roll in cost containment and quit calling them crooks (there may be a few but, certainly there is some integrity in this group - and there would be more if the government encouraged such. I absolutely do not want anything what-so-ever to do with the federal government controlling health care - come on people - look at every social program now the government runs - it's either broke or going in that direction. Give the government control of national health care - are you kidding me??
although I agree with most of what G.B Taylor stated, for the working poor with no insurance from work or the unemployed a state funded plan is required. Nobody should be die because they can't afford healthcare, Everybody who wants an annual check up should have access. Whether its ran through insurance companies or directly from the Gov't it needs to be available and paid for from the system. To pay for it is easy, just remove the subsidies given to companies, and allow a true free market where companies play on an equal field with equal rules.
hot the BIG RED reset button on this administration and this Congress NOW. Send them all to Cuba.
Obama Democrats don't give a rats ass about the poor or the needy. But for years they portray themselves as the great protectors of the under privileged.
When are you dummies going to wake up, they are to greedy to care anything about you. They are the ones with their boot on your throats.
After this next election 2012 it will be at least one hundreds years before Democrats have power again.
WE WILL NEVER FORGET OBAMA.................
MY MOMMY MADE ME PUT MY CRAYONS AWAY AND LISTEN TO
OBAMAS SPEECH
CAN'T I JUST PLAY IN SCHOOL
IF I LEARNED MATH I WOULD FIGURE OUT W BUSH FUCKED US ALL OVER
IF I LEARNED TO READ, I WOULD KNOW GLENN BECK, HANNITY, LIMBAUGH
ARE FULL OF SHIT .
IF I LEARNED TO WRITE, I WOULD SEND NASTY LETTERS TO ALL POLITICIANS
PLEASE DO NOT TELL MY MOMMY I SWORE
SHE WOULD WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP
LOVE YOU, SALLY
This bill should be scrapped along with the entire congress and executive branch.
Merreck;
Please forward the address of your utopia.
When you are born (at a hospital), you cost $ and then stamped ($ + SS# = your 1st introductory course of life into CAPITALISM AND SOCIALISM), -----------when you begin K-12, the government has a public school system (SOCIALISM?), or you can enroll in the private affluent system (CAPITALISM?), --------------your higher education is the 2nd introductory course into indebtedness (public or private)(GOVT LOANS or corporations i.e. BANKERS), ----------your next course into indebtedness comes from, "you got it", more (BANKERS), you know for the loan to get that car or maybe some credit cards to purchase the essential things you need to get through school, even though your working at times but still need the help, OK ------------ when you begin the workforce to (try) and payoff your debts and land the "career job", you "the American worker" now reach a highly competitive wage based field that maintains your indebtedness (CAPITALISM, it's cheaper to seek those whom work for lesser wages i.e. "OUTSOURCING") minimizing the available jobs in America that pays your worth as a laborer, representing the "American Dream" plus you've just bought a house, making the debt ever expanding, ------------when you get old and tired from working, stressing, competing to maintain a sense of "decency" living at every stage of your life you grow weary and sick, --------------you then cost $ to heal and die, and therefore indebted to a systematic corporatocracy for much of your life (CAPITALISM), or you'll seek the government, (but you have to be really old) looking to provide a subtile "way out", this is your precious medicare system (SOCIALISM) or don't forget that SOCIALIZED STAMP, you may want to cash in now. ------------THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT THE CURE ALL AND THE CORPORATION YOU WORKED SO HARD FOR WILL NOT CURE ALL, EVEN WHEN YOU ARE INSURED, IT'S NOT AN EFFECTIVE SYSTEM. YOU ARE SYSTEMATICALLY (FROM BIRTH) TO BE A PON FOR THE GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE AN UNEDUCATED CITIZENRY IS EASIER TO MANIPULATE AND CONTROL, AND YOU ARE A PON FOR THE CORPORATIONS, BECAUSE NOW THEY DON'T APPRECIATE YOU LABOR OR YOUR PATRIOTISM, THEY SEE THE SAVINGS ($) OF NEVER HAVING TO DEPEND ON YOU TO BOOST THEIR PROFITS WHEN UNDERDEVELOPED NATIONS WILL WORK FOR CHEAPER AND THEY HAVE CONSCIOUSLY PLACED GOVERNMENTAL OFFICIALS I OFFICE TO CHANGE LEGISLATIONS AND ENACT LAWS TO ADVANCE THEIR POWER WORLDWIDE.************************* Obama is the "greatest" distraction ever, to pull the wool over the eyes of Americans willing to blame "someone" but not themselves for being lazy, overweight, materialized, ignorant, racist, propagated, and worst of all "divided". HEALTHCARE WILL PROVIDE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WITH MUCH COMPETENCY AND LIFE SUSTAINING OPPORTUNITIES, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF YOUR DEBT HOLDERS.
That may be too much reading for the majority of this blog sites visitors, but I do hope it brings a realist commentary and not ignorance.
Thanks
THINK AMERICA:
I would be very interested to hear your solution to our predicament.
To Merreck
Welcome to the USSA
"AMAFRICA"
WHY CAN'T THE DUMB COMMUNIST LIBERAL DEMOCRATS REALIZE
HUSSIEN OBAMA IS OUT TO GET US . HE HAS GOT MORE CZARS
THAN RUSSIA HAD . TO THINK THE RASCAL OBAMA WAS ACTUALLY
BORN HERE. ANYBODY, WHO WAS BORN HERE WOULD NOT
WANT THE COUNTRY TO FAIL . YOU RUINED US BETWEEN 2001 AND 2008
NOW YOUR GIG IS DONE . GO SARAH IN 2012. SEND OBAMA BACK TO
AFRICA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
The solution is LOVE and HUMANITY for self 1st and then for everyone (young and old), not just towards 1 class, race, religion or nationality, I know that it sounds very EXTREME, yet it can develop within the majority of the people, but that ONLY starts within YOU and I ------ There is no 1 solution to a systematic problem, but there are remedies that should be "explored" whether coming from democrats, republicans, independents, and then ultimately the citizens of America. Healthcare is not the only reform desperately needed in America, but educational, mental, social, physical and political reform is also warranted. Then America would develop out of its ashes of self-destruction and hate, into a well-educated, competent, healthy, loving, strong and determined nation, all which does not serve the interest of its debt holders and those who wish to see America dumb and ignorant, lost and powerless (meaning the citizens, not just the government). The grips of corporatocracy are very firm on American lives and government, and that's wherein the battle lies, not 1 man (President Obama). WE shall contribute to our own demise and never even know it!!! ----------I just want people to stop and THINK.
There is no "AMAFRICA" but there is the "AMERO", a monetary currency of exchange instituted for the North American Union, that combines Canada, America (USA), and Mexico as one centralized Union. ******** FED UP REPUBLICAN, I do not follow your logic. Is it meant to be hilarious or serious?
larry rutland is an idiot that belongs to the biggest herd of idiots that ever populated this country
for crimes against the poeple and our constitution the whole administration should be placed under arrest and put on trial and sent to club gitmo. YESS!!!!!!
Yes Americans did win! Larry is right. We won the biggest hit blew the belt that has ever occurred in the history of the USA. If you voted for Obama and have not withdrawn your choice you are a bigot because you fell into the trap that if you don't vote for him you are racist. I am not racist just because I voted for Palin! That's right I voted for Palin not McCain so if you pull the race card I will pull the sexist card! I hope the health care plan goes through so that people like you that lack the mental competence are denied health care. I do not have health care and need it desperately but I don't want this crap!
This whole Administration is a load of CRAP. sure Bush had his issues, but this Admin. is not looking out for the best interest of the people, it's still We The People, not whatever Obama says, way does Obama need to continue to show his face and go over the same BS over & over, the only change I've seen is his hair color.
First, I want to say I don't know everything that is in the purposed Heathcare reform bills. I do think the government as well as all USA citizens should do their own research as to what is now working in other countries and tailer a plan that takes the best parts of each plan and develop a plan that will work best for all USA citizens. I think everyone should stop listening to the so called experts and show this country we are not just a bunch of zombies that believes everything we are told without doing our own research. We should after doing our own research, make our own decision as to what is best for the people as a whole for the USA based on true information . I know from reading many of the posts on this site many are quoting misinformation about the Canadian Health Care System due to what so called experts are telling. I for one don't believe everything I am told but do my own research before making up my mind.
If anyone is interested in a true comparison of the Canadian health care plans as to the US plans, as they stand today, here is a good web site that does a non partisan comparison: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Canadian_and_American_health_care_systems
outstanding, I am finally pleased. this is th efirst time I have checked FOX in a while to finally se someone calling out FOX for their blatentlt conservative biases and their fear mongering
I have an idea: Let's just scrap every law, every bill, the entire USC, everything after the first 10-Amendments to the Constitution; try all the politicians for treason and get back to what the Founders intended. The Progressives wouldn't like it. After all, they are responsible for the mess we're in. I suppose all the people who got rich off what the Progressives did, but they are industrious; they'll get over it.
Thank God for the TEA PARTY EXPRESS, these members represent the majority of voters that will throw this PROPAGANDIST out of the WHITE house in 2012, we will fire most of these Liberal Democrats in 2010.
All I gotta say is 2010 needs to hurry up, as well as 2012
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT!!!!
Larry Rutland.... you are a complete idiot, I'm really surprized that you can even get online without help. You definately shouldn't be allowed to state your opinion, in as much as you are simply parrotting what someone else, equally stupid , has puked out and you simply lapped up.
I pray that we make it 2010 to throw them all out.
This is death to America.
If medicare is a government option and I paid into it for 40 years when more people are being added then why are they decreasing the funds. How can they say there will be health care under any plan when medicare was suppose to be a government plan that would have no rationing and be there for older Americans and it is now being cut.
If he wants to cover 45 million not covered now imagine when this is passed and millions of people come to America because it was passed and we add them to the deficit will have us all underwater drowning from this weight.
WE are dead if any public plan , trigger or any bill over 3 pages is passed where they can hid things.
The bill should guarantee what they will not do including abortion, end of life, rationing, panels, with no age requirements or evaluation of remaining life. We were endowed by our creator with individual rights not the control and greed of providing for a WORLD SOCIETY.
Has everyone gone nuts. How clear is this or are they all life Dorien Gray's or ugly vile monster's inside where no one can see the individual as good and worth every minute of life.
Can't we pay in to a fund in the good years having enough resources at the end to handle the medical costs which need to be shown before we agree to any procedures, that can not be denied due to illness, have tort reform to lower costs and interstate competition.
Can we not work on these first and see if they work?
Medicare and Medicaid are going BANKRUPT.
VA care SUCKS. (I know I have a relative I take there)
They can't even run the cash for clunkers program with any efficiancy whatsoever and you want to trust them with your lives???
RIDICULOUS.
I have NO HEALTH insurance.
yeah, I am one of those poor souls they want you to feel sorry for.
I pay OUT OF POCKET for a serious illness.
I live below poverty level.
I am MAKING IT, paying my own way.
I don't use emergency rooms for things that aren't emergencys and I see my doctor when I need to.
IT CAN BE DONE.
I DON'T WANT A HANDOUT.
WHY give "free" healthcare to the welfare crowd and illegals??
WHY should WE have to pay for those who are too lazy to work??
HEALTHCARE REFORM WILL PUT MORE MONEY IN OUR POCKETS AND SAVE AMERICAN JOBS !
All major corporations have already moved oversea because they can't afford the U.S. Healthcare System. These companies left because they can't compete with countries that already have Universal Healthcare. U.S. corporations moved to other countries because they don't have to worry about employee healthcare.
CAN'T PEOPLE SEE THAT !
Healthcare Reform will reduce cost, give us more and better coverage and as a country we will be able to compete once again with countries like China.
DEATH PANELS HAVE ALREADY BEEN PROVEN TO BE A LIE ! Republican politicians are even admitting there is NO such thing in any of the plans.
PLUS HEALTCARE REFORM IS A CHOICE ! You do not even have to use it, SINCE ITS A CHOICE IT CAN'T BE SOCIALISM
as i read these comments i am still shocked at the number of people who think this is about helping the 15 million truly uninsured. do we need health care reform??? yes. should the united states government be in charge??? NO!! excuse me, but all of you in favor of government controlled health care can you name the one program the united states government has ever run well financially??? NO, because one does not exist. the us government simply does not manage money well, social security, medicare, medicad all on the verge of banhruptcy.
The president says he surrounds himself with people that are "key" to his success and they include Rev. Wright, Valerie Jarrett, Pelosi and Van Jones, and numerous czars we know very little about. Obama's goals to make massive changes to our healthcare systems, drastically raising energy consumption taxes (with no significant change in global warming), and increasing the federal deficit to unprecedented levels, that can't paid off in a 100 years, is attempting to accomplish all of this, with no experience, faulty logic and extreme liberal/socialist advisors. This has led the majority of Americans to be very mistrustful of Obama and his motives. It is hard to follow one that you believe is not acting in the best interest of our Nation and doesn't have the ability to do so.
Social Sercurity and Medicare are two of the GREATEST successes government can run things ! Without these two programs (and public schools) we would have been a 3rd world country by now. These two programs have worked great for many, many, many years.
Are there problems and lack of funding ? YES. The problem is they need to be updated like most programs after running for so many years but that is not a reason to end them. The world and the U.S. are not the same as they were when these two programs were first created, so no wonder they are failing in todays environment. A little fine tuning and they will be good for another 100 years.
REPUBLICANS WOULD BE EXTINCT right now if not for the governments help. This is not the wild wild west any longer. For you republicans that live on ranches and farms, the world has changed ! Like it or not it will never go back the way it used to be .
Death Panels are the review board like Oregon Has. They denied Mrs. Wagner cancer medication in time and she died. That is why they have been named DEATH PANELS they kill people with denial.
Medicare is not a success as more people are being added and millions are being cut. Thus doctors will not treat and therefore will have DEATH AGAIN!!!
Many people Republicans, Independents, Libertarians, Democrats like me want simple reforms like tort, state competition, medical costs revealed prior to treatment, savings accounts from beginning a work experience first before anything more.
Not all corporations are over seas but if you do not do simple reforms all of them will be and we will be left with socialism as the government owns the banks, cars, insurance and will be printing money with no gold to back it. What is the worth of Paper NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Public Option is not a choice when all the private insurers are gone as they will not be able to compete against what the government is going to offer in the beginning. There will not be enough doctors as there is a shortage right now. 47 million more will increase with this free insurance to a billion more in constant immigrants illegally coming in to get this taxpayer free money.
THIS IS ABOUT CONTROL ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS ABOUT REELECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLAY WITH PEOPLE'S LIVES AND LOVE OF COUNTRY OVER A 4 YEAR JOB? THERE IS NOT HEART AND SOUL IN AMERICA ANY MORE IF THAT IS THE CASE.
There is not a single republican on the face of the planet that would be where he or she is today without the help of the U.S. government.
I hate to tell you but none of you did anything on your own. That includes Hannity, Limbaugh, Palin, Bush and even Ronald Reagan. None of them would have been successful without the help of the U.S. government.
GET OVER YOURSELVES !
THIS IS NOT ABOUT REPUBLICAN OR ANY OTHER PARTY THIS IS ABOUT LIFE AND DEATH OF INDIVIDUALS AND OUR COUNTRY.
YOUR TYPE OF HATRED WILL KILL PEOPLE OF ALL PARTIES AND RACES NOT JUST THE OTHER PARTY AND WHITES.
MOLLY the Mobster
2009-09-09 15:28:09 ET
THIS IS NOT ABOUT REPUBLICAN OR ANY OTHER PARTY THIS IS ABOUT LIFE AND DEATH OF INDIVIDUALS AND OUR COUNTRY.
YOUR TYPE OF HATRED WILL KILL PEOPLE OF ALL PARTIES AND RACES NOT JUST THE OTHER PARTY AND WHITES.
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Your right and if you would actually read the bill out on the websites or least go through it you would find it would put and end to death panels and also make it where NO ONE can be denied healthcare for any reason.
THE SYSTEM WE HAVE TODAY ARE DEATH PANELS its called insurance companies who deny claims and use pre-existing conditions as a reason not to help people.
Healthcare Reform means, Cheaper, better service, and can NEVER be denied care.
That is funny, because my grandma is on insurance, and I aint heard them deny her anything.
You know what Dan, go live in your luxurious timeshare home out by Disney, and enjoy it while you can, cause I promise you, you will have to sell it when this health reform goes in to effect.
You can believe everything your Messiah says, but unlike the true Messiah (Jesus Christ in case you forgot), your Messiah will fail you
AMEN!!!!!!
SHAMEFUL REPRESENTATIVES .....WE DO NOT NEED TO RESET ANYTHING....WE ALL NEED TO KICK THESE GOONS AND LOONS OUTTA THERE NOW!!
KEEP UP THE PRESSURE TO GET AMERICA BACK IN OUR HANDS AND OUT OF THE INMATES AT THE INSNE ASYLUM!!
WRITE, CALL FAX AND EMAIL ALL OF YOUR REPRESENTATIVES EACH DAY, ONLY TAKES 5 MINUTES TO DO AND WE MAY GET OUR COUNTRY BACK, ALONG WITH COMMON SENSE...IF NOT....LET'S THROW ALL OF THE CHICAGO GOONS OUT!!!!!!!
Dan D=just another brainwashed Obamatron. Nobody's going to get through to him.
We have death panels NOW... It's called the medical insurance companies.... Over 20% of medical claims are declined and people end up dying because of it. If that's not a death panel I don't know what is...
Obama's healthcare plan isn't perfect, but you'll never convince people that are against everything Obama comes up with. The current system is not working... We need other options. Come up with a better idea or shut up!
AS I STATED EARLIER OREGON IS A STATE GOVERNMENT SYSTEM NOT PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND THEY ARE PROPOSING A GOVERNMENT PLAN JUST LIKE THEM. THEN THEY WILL KILL ALL THE WAGNERS IN THE USA THAT HAVE CANCER REQUIRING A EXPENSIVE PILL AS NOT COST EFFECTIVE.
OBAMA HAS STATED THAT HE DOES NOT THINK HIS OWN GRANDMOTHER HAD A COST EFFECTIVE HIP REPLACEMENT BECAUSE SHE HAD CANCER. UNLESS THEY TRY DRUGS AND OPERATIONS ON THE SICK THEY WILL NEVER GET TO THAT PLACE LIKE THE ARTIFICIAL HEART WHICH FAILED MANY TIMES BEFORE THEY GOT THE PROCEDURE CORRECT. AND HE WOULD HAVE PATIENTS REMAIN IN BED, NOT GET UP TO GO THE BATHROOM UNTIL THEY DIE. IS INHUMAN.
I HAVE READ THE BILL AND HEARD WHAT HAS BEEN SAID AND THIS IS NOT HEALTH CARE REFORM, NOT HEALTH CARE CUT COSTS, NOT HEALTH CARE CHOICE AS EVERYONE HAS SAID THIS IS THERE STEP TO SINGLE PAYER AND CONTROL. THIS IS NOT FOR THE PEOPLE , BY THE PEOPLE.
HISTORY SHOULD NOT BE REWRITTEN AS IT WORKS. THE FOUNDERS WANTED NO GOVERNMENT BUT DID NOT WANT ANARCHY SO THEY HAD A SMALL GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE DESTROYED THAT WITH BIGGER GOVERNMENT.OUR ECONOMY WILL NOT SURVIVE ANOTHER ADDITION BUT NEED TO FIND A WAY TO CUT COSTS.
MY FAMILY REFINANCED, DECREASED CABLE AND PHONE COSTS, ETC.TO LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS AND WE WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO DO THE SAME FOR GOVERNMENT AND OUR HEALTH INSURANCE. AND YOU KNOW WE LIKE THE REDUCED COSTS. AMAZING.
Hi,
I'm WB from Oklahoma... My grandma never got denied health insurance.. so the healthcare system works fine in my mind... I hear some black and mexicans aren't getting health care.. well f' them... Go to their voodoo doctors and eat some grits and die for all i care.
I wish obama didn't have healthcare...
Please Mr. Obama please re-think your healthcare vision! We the American people did not vote for you to radicalize our country! We did not ask YOU to turn over wholesale the engine of our growth. Yes we all agree there are problems that need addressing. But that does not mean scraping everything and replacing this problem with an even bigger problem. Take each problem we are facing and call both sides of the debate into the room and say "alright here is our problem how do we fix it?" What Mr. Obama is wrong with that approach?
In my opinion Mr. Obama one big mistake you made was allowing politics and ideology to trump common sense and reason. The speaker of the House and the Senate majority leaders are far and away to far left in their thinking. You Mr. Obama are the leader you should be setting the agenda not them!
WB from Oklahoma
2009-09-09 16:34:06 ET
Hi,
I'm WB from Oklahoma... My grandma never got denied health insurance.. so the healthcare system works fine in my mind... I hear some black and mexicans aren't getting health care.. well f' them... Go to their voodoo doctors and eat some grits and die for all i care.
I wish obama didn't have healthcare...
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YOU DO REALIZE THAT THERE IS NO WAY JESUS COULD BE A WHITE MAN ?Based ON WHERE HE WAS BORN, Jesus had to me Middle Eastern (Muslim, looking or even black ?)
Jesus would also be 100% for healthcare reform. Jesus would want to help the entire planet not just people living in Red States
WB from Oklahoma
2009-09-09 16:34:06 ET
Hi,
I'm WB from Oklahoma... My grandma never got denied health insurance.. so the healthcare system works fine in my mind... I hear some black and mexicans aren't getting health care.. well f' them... Go to their voodoo doctors and eat some grits and die for all i care.
I wish obama didn't have healthcare...
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YOU DO REALIZE THAT THERE IS NO WAY JESUS COULD BE A WHITE MAN ?Based ON WHERE HE WAS BORN, Jesus had to be Middle Eastern (Muslim, looking or even black ?)
Jesus would also be 100% for healthcare reform. Jesus would want to help the entire planet not just people living in Red States
Amazing how out of touch with reality you all are.
Message to President Obama and Congress:
Prove you can fix medicare and medicaid before plunging us into a more comprehensive fianacial disaster. Start with the fraud and abuses, address tort reform, then come to the table again with a plan that addresses ONLY those without Health Insurance.
I agree with Obama. All Americans should have good health care. Just because someone is rich they shouldn't get the best care while a poor person suffers. the government should run it all and then it would be equal. I can't imagine why everyone on here complains so much about obama. he is for fairness. But there are just a few of you in the total of people. thank goodness for that.
You can not solve a complex problem like health care until our leaders understand the problems and agree on steps to take to solve each one. Otherwise, the only thing that happens is moving the problems to another area. The result is not a solution. If you move the problem, you have not solved it. How do you know that you have solved a complex problem? You know because the solutions offered do not create new problems. And a good solution usually comes with a high degree of agreement from all parties.
A poor solution perpetuates both old and new problems. No victory for anyone.
What a stupid poll. No specifics about what people want or don't want in a health-care plan, just "start over". What good would that do?
We The People don't trust Obama to talk to our school kids until he changed the original text. How can we possibly trust him to control our health care (or health insurance, etc.). He is in over his head. He doesn't have the experience to be our DEAR LEADER. He should step down.
The real question is: Is the reduction in public support primarily due to the right-wing lies and distortions that mislead people about "death panels", "socialism", the costs of the status quo vs. new proposals, etc?
it's a trick question really I don't want the government or my congress messing with my health care. I want competition with insurance companies I don't think it is the responsibility of business owners to foot the bill . If we are all working and we have a healthy economy we should be able to buy our own insurance .
We have glaring problem here We have a socialist markist pres. and cabinet why aren't our congressmen and senators taking action to stop this president from appointing Communists to his advisers?? WE must insist they disallow this czar thing . There should be no one unelected running our country! Period!
What is the big hurry to get ANY health care bill passed. I say slow down, and perhaps start by first conducting come congressional and FBI investigations into each and every "Czar" currently on BO's staff.
First of all DanD. is ither working for or trying to get a job with the current admin. or he really needs to get a life , In spite of the current admin. ether way I really cant stand him or people like him who think the Gov . is there to fix everything . They need to start taking responsability for thier own actions . And yea I cant spell worth a shit , but thats my fault not Bushes
Whoever the Demo-****head is that used my name to start crap, F" you
I do care that Blacks and Mexicans and other minorities do get health care too
So eff you impostor, I aint a racist a-hole like Democrats believe we Republicans are. Hey Democraps, news for you, even people of color happen to be Republicans too, suck on that
Jesus is God and he is not one color, and I didnt say Jesus was white, thats words you are putting in my mouth
What I did say is that Obama's health plan will basically screw us in the rear, yes that is right, his health plan is the "Bubba" of the White House, dont bend over and reach for the soap.
Back in 1990, the Government seized the Mustang Ranch brothel in Nevada for tax evasion and, as required by law, tried to run it. They failed and it closed. Now we are trusting the economy of our country, our banking system, our auto industry and possibly our health plans to the same nit-wits who couldn't make money running a whore house and selling whiskey!"
When is this nightmare of a president going to be over why hasn’t he been impeached yet ? This president with this Clinton failed program has got to go. What kind of a person would bring this up at this time in our history a person that owes a very big favor to Hillary. This healthcare thing is just another insurance program to Robb the American people. So they can replace the money that they have already squandered. You don’t give people especial these classless people another chance to steal from you would you.!!!!! Ask Ben Bernanke he’s hiding something I can see it in his eyes. The same as I can see that Nancy Pelosi is a megalomaniac don’t let these people go any further
GAIA
Larry, appreciate your dedication to Mr. Obama, irrelevant, but nice. I can't say that all debate on the subject has been 100% reasoned on either side. You have given a great example of your side avoiding the facts and thereby hiding from the issue. Happy to help you. Two simple questions 1) Where in the constitution does the President get his authority to become the nations insurance provider, 2) Give an example of where the federal bureaucracy has effectively accomplished anything like this [collecting taxes is not answer].
Let me get this straight: 85 to 90% of the public is satisfied with their current health care and some politicians who won't participate in it want to REFORM our entire health system for trillions of dollars! Should be an absolute no brainer" NO" for even the least brilliant of us!
Nancy Mussolini has made it quite clear how she and Opie Bin Laden feel about Americans' distrust of/resistance to OpieCare. They don't give a rat's ass. Some version of this crap, Socialist legislation will be shoved down our throats by year's end, and anyone who publically opposed it will be on a "terrorist watch list".
Opie Bin Laden is a megalomaniac Nazi. He is building his own little cadre of mindlessly loyal flacks (see: "Czars", although he should really be honest and just call them "Underfuhrers"), and as soon as he has enough, he will simply suspend the Constitution and take over the government.
Is Mr. Juan Williams so smart that he is stupid. Come out and talk to we the people Mr. Willimas, YES Sir we get it. What part of No do you Not understand. We the people have had enough.
If the president withdraws his health care proposals for a period of bipartisan reconsideration-- "resets"-- he might regain that popularity which he is now steadily losing. If he presses ahead now against the wishes of the electorate, he will be a political zero for the remainder of his term. Resetting is the smart-- and statesmanlike-- move. But has he the humility?
Hey Bill O'Reilly, I found a whole bunch of volunteers to be the PINHEADS on your next show ! It just seems unbelievable to read some of these responses. Social Security is already just about bankrupt so I will never see it even though we are required to continue to pay for it. I find it numbing that some of these posts don't get this has nothing to do with race. All have groups that want to bust their humps to live the American dream all the way down to those that want the government to wipe their arses for generations and never have to bother voting, so let's put that to rest. I and MANY others don't think this country is in need of the "Messiah's" rebuilding efforts. I know the true Messiah already has a plan for that soon enough. It's sad to see so many people sucked into Nobama's act that they voted for him simply because he is black and now they cant bring themselves to admit they aren't getting what they were sold. Swallow hard, admit it, and step up to help correct this ! I saw my 1st Impeach Obama sticker the other day so who says we have to wait til 2012. It would be great if the BOBBLEHEADS on the Hill would band together and stop this nonsense like they have no power to distinguish right from wrong and let these few steamroll over the whole country. Do your jobs or get out and we WILL help you either way ! Lord help us all !
"It is a lie, plain & simple." Thank God, Thank God, Thank GOD for the leadership of a President who wants to solve the single greatest crisis of our time.
I noticed someone commenting about the "LIE" of Green jobs. Sorry but here in Colorado stimulus money has already been going to green jobs, and as a result, I have began receiving calls from possible employers who are looking for warehouse managers. In both the solar and wind energy fields.
hey what about regulating the doctors costs the hospital costs...(i have paid $25 for a Qtip) or the DRUG COMPANIES. Why is it so expensive to pay for prescriptions .....
Joanne L. you are absolutely correct. Nationalized...er ah, National Health coverage is THE "single greatest crisis of our time"...for LESS than 2% of the U.S. population ("50 million Americans" your Dummycrat numbers). Back in the 70's and 80's, when I was young and stupid and thought I could rely on my own intelligence, education, motivation, and business savvy to run my own business and raise a family NOBODY gave a tinker's dam if I could afford insurance for my wife, children or myself. Now, tell me once again why I should be forced to give up the very good insurance I have now, settle for some sub-standard crap-coverage that "the government" owns (and will eventually run into the ground) and pay for YOUR coverage at the same time!!! What in your bleeding heart, mush-headed, thinking makes this fair to me or anyone else who has worked for and earned what they have?
Small "new"business speaking out. I decided to start a new business in the mist of all the craziness. I am proud to say I am surviving but barely. I went into this business eyes wide open and knew success was up to me...If the government makes me buy insurance....I will not be able to afford it... It is not in my 3 year plan and something I know I cannot afford.. So I am VERY CONCERNED to see the "plan" before it is approved. Yes, I agree health care is messed up..I have way to many stories to share to that fact. But dictating to me on how to run MY business is an issue. I do not know the answer, I have not sen the answer yet and believe the government, rather republican or democrat has not learned how to be $$$ responsible and do not believe government knows how to run a business!
So very concerned citizen ....
Its like tearing down a house when you need it painted. Just fix what you don't like, don't completely dismantle our healthcare system to fix a few problems. There is NO NEED for government run healthcare, allow competition between existing health insurance companies. A government run health ins. is like having Walmart move in, close down the little guys, then raise their prices. KEEP FIGHTING THIS, NOTHING HAS CHANGED
Hats off to Joe Wilson for his shout out tonight during Obama's speech. I think it's the first time Nancy Pelosi moved her eyebrows since she got her botox shots.
I think the current healthcare reform bill should not only be scrapped, it should also NOT BE REPLACED. It is not a legitimate function of the federal government to be in the healthcare business. Insurance should be written only for the risk of financial catastrophe should a medical crisis happen to a person, not to insure the person for every office visit, X-ray, etc. You can't insure health, only the financial risk of a catastrophic illness. By inserting a third-party-- whether it's an insurance company or the government --between the doctor and patient, you break the patient's sense of personal responsibility and accountability-- that an individual is responsible for his or her own health. Many, if not most, of the major illnesses in this country are due to poor lifestyle choices, which are entirely within the control of the individual. Also, a third party system makes it more expensive and aggravating for the average doctor to practice.
I agree with the others who suggest we should scrap the entire Obama Administration. The only caveat is that the Republicans have not demonstrated that they could offer any better alternatives. It's time for REAL CHANGE in America....a return to what made this country great in the first place: limited government and the sovreignty of the individual.
What a speech! Tremendous! Patriotic with conservative roots!
Joe Wilson should be ashamed and probably censured. You dont do that ever!
The GOP needs to stop all the fear mongering and work towards a productive plan
Spell check? You should have listened to the POTUS's speech about trying harder in school.
Speaking of people being against the Health Insurance reforms; I noticed that last night Fox News reported about the Tea Party in Troy Michigan and reported an attendance of "8,000 to 10,000", HOWEVER according to Americans for Tax Reform, http://www.atr.org/updated-people-attended-tax-tea-parties-a3138#
a group that certainly is in favor of the Tea Parties, the attendance in Troy Michigan was 2,000. Great job of over estimating by 400% to 500%. This makes me wonder what other stories this network is reporting inaccurately.
Sorry, the one person thinks that the American population cannot understand 8th grade lit., must really be a heavy burden to know that she is so much smarter than everyone else. However, much to her dismay, simple
language is always the best, and Health Care Reform needs to be reformed!!!
OBAMA doesn't CARE!!!
stupid is as-------and there is more than ever
I saw how California's health care went bankrupt by caring for illegal aliens. This happened a number of years ago. Correct me if I am wrong, but the President want's to provide health care for all illegals now. Why can't we focus on our Citizens, Black ,White ,Hispanic etc, and take care of our own nation. We have enough single mother's and single parent households not to mention returning War Veterans that are US Citizen's. I would like to see these folks receive a helping hand before we support another give away for the illegals that plunder the systems that we now have in place.
I have looked through the posts and I do not understand why so many of
you think you have to cuss and use vuglar language to express yourselves,
Would you want your Mother, Grandmother, Father, Sister, to view posts
with this type of language? Please be kind and refrain from this abuse of the
English Language, We all have strong opinions and can express them in a
dignify manner
The first thing 0bama said was that no tax money will pay for abortions under this plan. However, the first thing he did when he was inaugurated was to NATIONALIZE abortions so we pay for abortions worldwide. So, is he going to repeal that? I doubt it.
I did agree with one thing President Obama said tonight and that is to allow
insurance companies to compete across state lines. We only have about
5 vivable health insurance plans offered in my state
We need to scrap the whole communist administration they will destroy this free country.
I just don't see why we have to jump in with both feet. They talk about health insurance like it's completely broken. It's not. It just needs to be tweaked. I think it's just too much at a time.
There are some questions which need to be answered. Questions regardless of your political affiliation, sexual orientation, doesn't matter if you are red-necked, brown-skinned or black-eyed, almost everyone answers these questions the same way.
Is the medical system of the United States functionally broken? There is only one answer, yes.
Is the medical system of the United States driven by the same capitalistic spirit which fuels other NGOs? There is only one answer, yes.
Is the medical system of the United States represented in Congress by both parties via large campaign donations and via large lobbying efforts? There is only one answer, yes.
Are there people of the greatest country in the world, subjected to second rate health care as a trade off for first rate profiteering? There is only one answer, yes.
At what point, do we the American people begin to start demanding protection from financial ruin from outlandish medical expenses, demanding protection from organizations who examine my cost burden before considering my right to proper treatment, when do we earn the right as a people to not wear the weight and burden of fighting for the right to live with adequate medical care.
Wake up America. The problem we are trying to solve is already fixed in most of the developed world. Japan, Canada, Sweden, France, Germany, pick another major world power and our US health care system ranks below.
Our average life expectancy is lower. Our infant morality rate is higher.
Why? Because we allow our medical system to be driven by the dollar and not driven by the exact Hippocratic doctors are sworn by. To keep the patient from harm and injustice.
For those who are concerned with an alternative system, don't opt for it. Pay for your existing coverage via your employer. Enjoy the benefits of the new system, as your current insurer will now be forced to compete with other options. The current insurers will not be able to remove people arbitrarily from their programs and will not be able to push ridiculous financial burdens onto the backs of the hard working men and women in the US.
And most importantly, those who are unable to be insured for existing conditions, self employment or unemployment will not go without the basic medical conditions life requires.
Choose life, not greed.
foxnews, why do pages with pictures on them and pages like this consantly try to fucking reload itself even after the stop button has been hit on the browser. fix your shit.
What a loaded question! "New polls show...." I am glad there is a disclaimer at the bottom that "poll is not scientific". Do you people still think that disagreeing with the President is Unpatriotic. I am glad you have a voice, although, I strongly disagree. Please check your facts, public option would save tax payer money, since that seems to be the most important factor for many of you. Never mind lives, or integrity or the american way.
HE SPOKE I HEARD OBAMA STILL SUCKS
Watch the back door of the White House the rats are sneaking in.
The government health plan is going provide with "another option." Compare it to the school system. Public schools are another option. Are they really bad, do they represent a waste of tax money? People who wants to go to a public school can do it and people who can afford to go to private schools are free to do so. Same here people who can't get private insurance will have "another option" and people who decides to keep their current insurance coverage and doctors are free to do so? What is wrong with that? I do not understand. What part of "you can keep your current doctor and your current insurance" people do not understand? The same people who opposed medicare and medicaid back in the days are the ones happy using it now in their elderly, just think about it.
Obama is at least trying to help the people who need healthcare and are struggling. If you are trying to get by and pay your bills and don't find you have lots of extra income to pay for health care-Get on board, stand up for yourself and your family and support Obama who is trying to help the middle class and the poor. If you want to continue to pay high insurance premiums for the rest of your life then do nothing and support the Republicans.
I see they really need to reform healthcare so some of you can get the sorely needed brain operations you seem to desperately need. Although, who knows, maybe semi-literate drivel is normal in the circles many of you apparently surround yourselves in. After the last eight years, maybe "stupid" is the new "smart". You folks need to read a book perhaps, and discover what communism actually is. Although , I suspect, you'll not be finding any books inside Rupert Murdoch's rump, where many seem to have their craniums firmly lodged.
One thing about tonight, Sarah's book just went up when the Pres had to
go after her directly, GO SARAH
I would like our representatives (?) to deal with the many segments of the problem , one at a time -
Interstate Insurance competition-
Pre existing conditions-
Illegal aliens-
un insured-
These are just a starter sample-
Please do not have a socialistic horizon in our future !
chacote
Any formally educated person with a heartbeat would agree with his passion to make sure that EVERY AMERICAN has affordable health care. Health care should be a right, not a luxury. I also think that if we can spend billions of dollars in a country half way across the world then we should be able to spend it here in our great nation... well, once great nation. Greed has over taken the people that we call "our fellow americans". Wise up people, open your eyes and see that these insurance companies (and lobbyist--we all know who the are) are killing people left and right by denying them the healthcare that could potentially save their lives.
Socialistic? Are you kidding me? Are we a socialized society because the government runs the Postal Service or other important services that we are lucky to have? Are we a socialist country because we have free education for our children, here in America? Uh huh, nope, we are not!
P.S. Watch out! President Obama might be knocking at your front door next week in order for you to hand over your guns. LOL! And I thought that little rabbit was silly!
----->WISE UP AMERICA or we will fall like every other great empire in all of history.
Most of these bone head republicon artist on this blog use or work for government run programs such as there educations payed by the state and federal gov. there parents use medicare or medicade, social security the court system,police, firefighters, and road system the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children,The CDC,OSHA,NASA,the Military, There fear is there own racist inner stupidity, Alabama ,one of the most racist states has only one insurance to chose from with alias subsidiaries, I wonder why, there stupidy against the government run programs is the reason. 375 million has been spent by lobyist for big insurance co. against the Presidents health care proposal to date, Now these bone head republicon idiots that will never benifit from any republicon law ,tax break or proposal can leave this country.get out now>>>>
I just want to wake up and this nightmare called Obama will be gone.. I can't stand the man, and I will never feel that he represents all of AMERICA.. he doesn't have a clue what he is doing. does he even have any true thoughts of his own? or are they prince harry's or the devil queens, Nancy.. I don't want this man making decisions for me.. I did not ask him to..and, I never will.. Obama is creepy and totally someone that I could never trust.. people can say what they may about President Bush, but, when he spoke to our school kids, I didn't worry about the topic, or that he would be trying to brainwash our kids..
a word to Obama, TRY LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE, REALLY LISTEN!!
quite frankly, I would love to hear him (via his teleprompter, of course) give the american people what they want............ his RESIGNATION!!!!!!!!!
I cannot believe how ignorant some of these comments are. Obviously a lot of you did not watch Obama tonight. He clearly explained the proposed healthcare reform plan and stated right up front that nothing changes for people who currently have coverage. He addressed all of the allegations made that are spinning this plan into something horrible for the country. The purpose of the plan is to make sure everyone has health insurance and he presented all of the reasons why this is good for the country. Fox TV and the rest of you who are probably Republicans opposed to the healthcare reform cannot stand the thought that a Democratic president could make a change that is so positive for the country. None of the Republicans ever proposed healthcare reform. The best we got was George Bush implementing an RX drug program for the elderly that has cost the country billions and he never had a plan in place to pay for. This is the type of person the Republicans want in office. I've always considered myself an independent but will probably never vote Republican again after listening to the politicans on that side of the fence spinning lies about the plan in an attempt to thwart any effort to pass healthcare reform. If Obama wasn't pushing so hard for this the Republicans would just as soon let it die as there is little, if any, interest on their part to do anything for the country. It's true, the Republicans are all about greed, money and how every law they pass benefits them and their party. Oh, they throw something in now and then for the country like Bush passing a bill to provide better drug coverage for seniors. Guess what, he never made any plan or thought through how the country would pay for this and left billions of dollars in debt over this program to Obama - now that's great leadership! Obama has thought through everything very carefully and has presented an excellent argument and I hope the bill passes. I'm not saying there may not be wrinkles but he's done a hell of a better job than George Bush did with the RX plan. Anyone who's going to challenge what Obama said tonight on TV should come out and speak to each specific aspect of the plan and state where Obama is allegedly lying. From what I see, HE did his homework on the issue and has addressed all of the rumors and lies conjured up by the alleged intelligent and honest Republicans who want nothing more than to assure no healthcare reform bill gets passed. Obama is honest, has integry, morals, says what he believes and thinks about what is best for the country - not what is best for Barak Obama, his family and the people he knows personally. Can't say that about a majority of the politicans and I'm throwing almost all of the Republicans into that camp. If healthcare reform doesn't happen - it won't be his fault. It will be the fault of the Congress who has an agenda that is not in the best interest of the country and all the ignorant citizens who cannot see that this country is lacking in the healthcare provided to its citizens.
Rascist people like Hollie do not belong in this country, you didnt have a problem when other presidents spoke to school kids even a democratic president like Bill clinton as he bop interns , did you speak up then , I dont think so, People like you don't belong in this country, I think if Sara Palin and Dick cheney were your next republicon nominees , you would vote for them, Bush is the worst president in the history of the United States he is a criminal and should be jailed and not pardoned like scooter libby was, The fact that this president wants to get things done is why they havent been tried yet,Hollie your a rascist whether you like it or not , we need to round all of you up were hoods and burn you up.Ha Ha
This poll is so fixed and statistically inacurrate it's downright funny! I'd like to see ALL the unique ip addresses and packets from isp hosts to back it up. Talk about a scam. LOL!
WHO THE HELL DOES OBAMA THINK HE IS
SPEND ALL THIS MONEY ON HEALTH CARE
WE SHOULD DECLARING WAR ON COUNTRIES LEFT AND RIGHT
ATTACK HUSSIENS ETHIOPIAN HOMELAND FIRST
IT IS CHILDISH AND COMMUNISTIC TO FOLLOW OBAMA
I am for some reform, but not Socialism !
Laws/legislation is a far better option:
* Enable to cross state borders for health ins (competition).
* Prevent ins companies from increasing or droping your health ins, because of illness.
* Tort reform.
* Some type of constraint on pharmaceutical companies
(example, $4000 for monthly supply cancer medication, is a scam!).
I am very opposed to:
1). The government to get bigger and bigger !
2). The government spending money they do not have !
Jeannie, Well, I guess you are then one of the mindless Americans who Obama can obviously brainwash with his unrealistic and lofty goals of more affordable insurance with coverage to everyone that will be paid for by the Medicare savings and will not add one penny to the deficit. He wants to take away the Medicare advantage program for seniors. This program is actually saving the government money and putting the risk on the so called nasty insurance companies who actually have the nerve to want to make a profit (god forbid that we have capitalism in this country). Health insurance does need reform. Insurance companies do need to remove preexisting condition exclusions; however, this will come at a price to the premiums. Since the health insurance risk pools will significantly increase and cost insurance companies more money, which equates to premium increases since the costs are passed to the consumer. We do need tort reform; however, Obama and Congress representatives are getting too much lobbying money/perks from the lawyer lobbyists to even consider the idea of tort reform.
Regarding the public option, this will be another huge tax burden to tax payers. The public option will wind up having huge deficits, and the govt will have to step in and bail it out, thereby causing our taxes to go up or our deficit to go up. Nothing is free. Looking how well the USPS is doing - they have huge deficits. If the taxes do not eventually go up, then rationing of health care will have to occur to cut costs. Rationing of health care does eventually lead to the govt not paying for services that they consider not to be prudent. For example, when your elderly parent needs a liver transplant, however, based on statistics the Government run health board determines that the parent would regardless probably only have 1 or 2 years left before he or she dies. Thus it would not be cost effective to pay for the transplant. So, in Obama's own words, it may be best to give the parent pain pills until they die.
Obama needs to hire accountants who can actually show him a realistic picture- not just what he wants to hear or believe. He is obviously not listening to the CBO auditors (who know what they are talking about).
Regarding his putting down of the Republican (and independents') opinions, I guess it is okay for him to discount their opinions and we should consider his opinion to be gospel since his way is the only way. Obama will be definitely a one term President!!!!! And, as for Pelosi, I hope the voters in her district see what an idiot she is, and vote her out at the next elections.
So, Jeannie, do not complain when your insurance premiums go up or health care will be rationed. Look at Canada's health care system where their citizens are coming to our country for health care since they have to wait months to see a doctor (by the way, Canada is the country to the north of the United States). Per Obama's own words, he wants universal care for everyone and he hates insurance companies (those nasty companies who actually want to make a profit). Maybe you will one of the lucky ones where the Obama government health board determines a critical life saving procedure is unnecessary. Hope you will not get too sick from taking all those pain pills.
Fox News spins again... Headline: "Rep. Joe Wilson apologizes after shouting at Obama as he talked about insuring illegals." Wha??? Obama was talking about NOT insuring illegals. Anyone who did not hear the "You Lie" exchange for themselves will read this headline and believe the exact opposite of Obama's intention. Fox is lying to the American people again. One of many examples. I think most of you Fox Republicans are perfectly fine with Fox lying to you. Pathetic!
Pathetic poll. Any professional would have thrown those three (3) questions and the way they were asked immediately. Faux News should be asshamed of themselves. Fair and Balanced???????????????????????????????? Are you freaking kidding? OK...try this on for starters. What does "significant amount of voters" mean? Does it mean 10%? 20% What? Every single poll shows a majority of the people in this country want healthcare reform. Not 5 years from now..not 3, but NOW. Now Faux news may "SPIN' this anyway they want, but this time they lose! NOT this time and not this year.
Why start over? The GOP hasn't even started yet. The "draft" proposal held up last night during the President's speech may have been the first public appearance of that mysterious document.
Joe Wilson and extreme Right radicals showed shock-jock sensibility in their boorish behavior on the national stage in Congress last night. Would his children in the military ever behave so disrespectfully? I do not think that they would ever dream of yelling insults at their Commander-In-Chief. Patriotic Americans do not tolerate such outrageous behavior from public servants, who should be modeling the highest courtesy and respect for authority. What is behind Wilson’s irrational destructiveness? Could it be that Southern bigots are now venting their frustrations via Wilson now that Jim Crow is dead? If South Carolina citizens are true patriots, they will push for Wilson’s resignation. Otherwise this begins an ugly new legacy of intolerance and disrespect. Isn’t it time for Joe to go?
I have a family member living in Canada and keeps insurance in this country after almost dieing a childbirth because there was no surgeon present she had to wait until one showed up and almost did not make it. She remembers lying there being told to hold on a little longer. She now keeps insurance for her and her children in this country due to many problems in Canada. We think because this is the US things like this will not happen here. Or the family who waited for cataract surgery for their mother. She was placed on a waiting list. She just recently got a call for the surgery. Unfortunately, she will not get the procedure. She died around a year ago. Or the person who left Australia because of the lack of work and medical care. She agrees things need to be done only moving down this area becomes a slippery slope. I have not been happy with the other side either. They have had chance to make changes only it did not happen. Yet, the opposing side has had a plan for months only its ideas never seem to reach the main stream press. I know the states were there are more choices in health care the costs go down and the service come up. With the increase of spending already being done why are we adding more deficit right now? Why does this need to be done so quickly? If the plan has so much merit than why worry about debate. If there are the votes why worry about what Fox or anyone else thinks? If you have it all together why worry about the opinions of others at all. If people want to push a bill through it makes me think what is there they may not want us to know. I would ask these questions no matter who is in congress. Funny after moving around other stations web sites there is few areas to allow people to put in their own comments. So if this News media is so off why are the rating so high on Fox and if you got everything hands down why bother with this site? Sadly, those of us in the middle trying to make educated decisions can not even ask questions or put out concerns looking for input without being slammed. I heard how one side is using it voice to scare people in the last few opinions I see some very negative personal attacks from the other side. How is that OK? I lived with a child having a major disease and high medical bills and am still paying them off. Over many years I have kept in touch with parents in other countries and hear the heart felt sorrow of lack of medical attention for a child needing it. Inability to contact a doctor or specialist for help when medications need changing or adjusting. Medications that need constant monitoring of blood levels on a monthly basis or severe consequences can occur when you are not able to see a doctor for months. Since they need a specialist it can be 3 or more months until that can happen. Parents at wits end watching their child suffer and not having the ability to get help or even go to the emergency room since those doctors are not specialist and will refer them back to the specialist. Necessary tests needed to confirm medical attention on a waiting lists. This is something that I have personally seen for years. It hurts when my child is suffering and recovering from the effects of medications when I had options and other did not. I can imagine the frustration of a parent that does not have many choices. Yes, there needs to be change only I would like more options out there for all to see and more working together and less bickering between sides. If either group believes in their proposal they should not be afraid of? I am not writing this to scare anyone only to inform that these are true experiences and things that happen and parents are in debt like us only they have few choices due to the overworked system. This happens to young and old alike. We take for granted even if you do not have insurance there are some options out there. Choices that some in other countries do not have where the gov. runs insurance.
I don't see why the government just doesn't raise the salary requirements for Medicaid so that the working poor will qualify for that government ran program. Raise it by 20,000 per year and see how many qualify. This program is already in force. There should be some oversight on the insurance companies as well. We need to work with what we already have in place. Working middle class families can not afford all of the Obama taxes that are coming down the pike. Health care, energy, etc. Middle class America lives paycheck to paycheck. How does Obama think all of these plans and the taxes that come with them will help us.
We live in a very bad time, when the president of the US can force an issue such as Health Care down the throath of hard working Americans. He has proven over and over that he wants complete control of this nation. His pastor prayed, I heard him, for God to Damn this nation and that took place in November 2008 with the 66M ignorant people that voted for this man and his party. I pray that GOD Bless America, let her people stand strong against evil and prevail, let this man and his party fall to their knees as Saul did when YOU shown that bright light in his eyes. LORD forgive them, they know not what they do. YOU gave our forefathers the knowledge to build this nation on YOUR principles and we do not want that to dissipate. LORD touch these leaders and place CHANGE in their hearts the most important CHANGE and only CHANGE that is relavant, that YOU are our leader and only way this nation will continue to be the greatest in history.
As usual, last nights speech was long on rhetoric and short on substance. If 5% of the population signs on for the public option which is what he said last night, and it will be sustainable by the premiums that they pay since they won't have overhead, adminstrative costs, etc, then the president needs to go back to school and take some math classes. He said the bill won't pay for illegals, but again, that doesn't make sense, since they will still be able to go to any emergency room in the country, so how exactly does health reform fix that? He said no federal dollars for abortion, but when you read the bill again, (I think it's page 433), there it is, abortion. He said there are no death panels. Death panels is a bad phrase (totally misunderstood) but on page 1233, mandatory end of life counseling (and that's what people oppose). Maybe, he needs to read the bill before he makes statements to the American people.
Aside from all that, I'm just tired of the bickering and blame game. It needs to stop, and Mr. Obama is very guilty of that. If you don't like what someone says, just deal with it, stop with the little snide comments (and he's a master at that). Also, he needs to put a muzzle on Axlerod.
I also saw some comment about the czars. My feeling on that is that we (the taxpayer) are paying out at the very least $4 million in taxes for salaries for these guys. They need to be vetted or Mr. Obama can pay their salaries out of his own personal funds.
True enough, Obama could sell refrigerators to Eskimoes, his slick talking has gotten him to the position he is in. However, his actions speak much louder than his words. Trailing behind this "Health Care" fiasco - the buy-out of the banks, the auto industry, the 'stimulas bill,' Cash for Clunkers, etc. All were touted as major 'fixes' for our economy. Listening to him - most people initially believed it all. However, results have shown that what he says and what actually happens can be totally different. If you look forward to the obvious results, you see this will wreak havoc on our medical system.
Why can we not fix Medicare and Medicaid, allow those we hear so desperately need insurance to be added to Medicaid, and simply clean up all the fraud and abuse in those two programs. By the way, these programs would not be in such a state if the government had not 'borrowed' from them to pay for other pet projects. That should have never been allowed!
We should clean up what we have instead of manufacturing another mismanaged government program.
I would rather see current 'pay for uninsured' aspect continue as it is, rather than have the government in charge of America's healthcare!
Hastily putting the cart before the horse is never a good idea, ya know like with the cars for clunkers program.
“Slow down Obama and relax a bit, catch up on your smoking, you have 4 years to show everyone how wonderful you are, you will be worshipped by all soon enough”said satan.
I checked out the other news stations that were more likely to be visited by dem rights, guess what, they say their polls indicate 2/3 of the people agree with Obama's Health care plans. So if fox says that their polls which are more likely to be visited by Reps, Conservatives, and Independants say their polls indicate that Obamas Health plan approval has gone down. Why argue about it just go back to the news where your ideas seem justified. But keep your eye's on us RCI FOX lovers because if you weren't so busy defending your yes vote you would see that what is said on Glen Beck and other like programs are true.
There were so many misdirections and outright falacies last night that it's difficult to narrow it down. If bipartisan means that both parties are involved, why is legislation being advanced that is completely partisan? If Obama meant what he said, that legislation would already be scrapped.
When Obama said that the proposal would not apply to illegal immigrants, did he know that there is not requirement to confirm citizenship for eligibility? Excluding anyone and then not providing the means to do so is meaningless.
We live in a representative democracy, despite the claims of those who support Obama and dismiss the opinions of thier fellow citizens. Health care reform should be rewritten with bipartisan input, and then tabled for citizen reveiw for (6) months. All elected officials should be subject to it. Any legislation that is this important and complicated deserves a complete public review. The midterm elections would be a valuable confirmation that voters are being heard, if we are to live by our ideals. Do you think Democrats are willing to take that chance? I think not!
Sadly, Democrats are rushing to pass legislation before the midterms, before angry voters can stop them. Anytime an elected representative is unwilling or afraid to stand before his/her constituents, democratic ideals are being violated.
Why should we believe Republicans will do anything about health care? When we had a Republican Pres. and Congress nothing was done. They had their chance. Today the Tea Party Express was in Scranton and I saw a man actually strike a woman that was holding a sign for health care. Will Beck or Hannity show that. Fox taped it. They were there.
All I hear from these Demo-Crack heads is blah blah blah, blah blah, Obama is God and will save the world, blah blah blah, Conservatives are racist terrorist bastards, blah blah blah
You democraps are full of crap. Obama will not save the world, he is going to make it worse and worse.
Like I said before, hey to bust your bubbles, but there are Republicans who are of color who also disagree with Obama.
Also, I aint a racist terrorist bastard. I dont give a rats ass if Obama was Mexican, it aint his color, it is his character, and his character sucks. So, you need to watch yourself, but hey, if you wanna follow your Black Messiah, you can follow him to unemployment when he visits those he screwed in the butt for jacking up the prices of health care and other things that will cause unemployment to take place
Splain to me what all the CSARs are for, the only thing this reminds me of is COMMIE LAND. For all you 8th graders that means RUSSIA. Seig Heil my friends!!!!
Hell, no they shouldn't start over. That's just the delay the health insurance industry wants to buy enough time to stop reform altogether. The private sector has had decades to solve this problem and has spectacularly failed. Also, these FN polls are a distortion. If America were really a democracy we'd have had single-payer 20 years ago. But don't count on FN to tell you the truth about that, since they sell ads to health insurance companies. Murdoch's propaganda machine keeps right on spewing it. They distort, you comply.
Jim, you might as well start practicing saying "Mein Kempf" and "Heil Obama" if something dont happen quick. You think we might end up in a Cold War?
I know my Pastor said we are to respect authority and pray for those who hold authoristic positions, but how can you do so for a man who is pretty much running the US to the ground, trying to control our lives like we are puppets on a string, and make people like my grandma possibly die from life-risking illnesses because she is 81 and diabetic because of death panels, but yet denies he has said or proposed?
Obama speaks on behalf of the Democrat Party. The person who committed the asault should be arrested. Fox should provide the tape as evidence against him. He does not speak for anyone else, any more than SEIU members with similar behavior.
This issue is too important to rush through, too critical for anything short of overwhelming public support, and its too complex to be unread by most members of Congress. There is too much at stake for this issue to be handled the way it is.
It's time for voters to start holding elected officials accountable. Members of Congress should be given the same choices that average citizens receive, without the special perks. Health care reform, when it is done, should apply to everyone without exception.
So because the guy called Obama a liar, it is an assault? Well, you are an idiot for thinking that, ooo, Im sorry, I didnt mean to "assault" you
Whatever
SJ Huisken;
You got it all wrong. Patriotic Americans do not tolerate the man who says this is not a christian nation anymore, who is trying to befriend us with communistic, terroristic, anti-usa nations, who has quadrupled our deficit, and has not proven anything or has fulfilled his so called promises. They also can not tolerate the man who considers us Racist, terroristic bastards.
Glenn Beck,
One thing about the health care debates that does not seem to be getting any attention is the idea that our private medical records will be shared with every medical person throughout the US.
I do not want my private medical records shared with every medical and pharmaceutical professional and trainee throughout the US, and I certainly do not want to share any of my personal data with the US Government and its agencies.
I think many people have not considered just what the computerrization of our medical records means.
We need to ask people if they want their their tax returns made available to every accounting assistant and accounting firm secretary throughout the Nation to help Americans to grasp just what the President is advocating with the computerization of our medical data.
Dick Lord
Joe Wilson spoke the truth.... It was all lies. Obama is just telling the American people what they wanted to here, just like when he was campaigning for presidency. Obama promised that he would not sign any bills with out reading them first. How many billions of dollars has he already spent of our tax money???
Oklahoma Citizen should read Carol's post. (Don't you know the difference between an insult and an assault?)
Wilson was telling the truth, whether the setting was appropriate or not. He was merely articulating what many were thinking. Obama was not being honest about the intent of the proposed legislation.
I think that they should scrap the whole bill and then go back to Congress and the Senators and scrap them also. What they have done to our beloved America is such a short time is unbelieveable. Get rid of them all especially the Czars, Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Frank,Shumer, Clinton and the whole bunch. Shame on them and shame on Obama for not doing anything about these people especially Rangle, Peloise, Frank and Dodd.
Sorry California Citizen, I misread your comment. I will agree with you though, Wilson was right, Obama is lying, AND, wouldnt you know it, the all powerful Democrap House is going to reprimand him for doing so
I want *real* health care reform -- not a bill that subsidizes the health care industry's continued screwing over of Americans. And worse, it forces those who don't currently buy health insurance into this extortion racket.
If this is the best Obama and the Democrats can do (kowtow to the Health Insurance Industry), we would be better off with no "reform" at all. I'm still waiting for the President and the Congress to "evolve" a spine.
The executive, legislative and judicial offices sworn to uphold the United States constitution and the will of the People of this Republic, have betrayed those they have given oath to. They took oath to defend, preserve and protect the Constitution of the United States. We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
They do not serve individuals for whom our country are made up of, they serve their own political careers and multi-national corporations' greed to entrain and debilitate our people with polluted waterways, land and by holding monopolies on the food industry whereby they have dumped toxins, poisons and other dangerous substances into that which we must eat. Pharmaceutical companies create substances that do nothing but mask ill health and add to the debilitated state of already compromised systems. Vaccines inject pollutants and toxins which damage and destroy immune systems. We are a nation that has no resemblance to the healthy, free and independent nation that once was America. We are being destroyed from within. All that we have built through our own hard work has been dismantled and sold to other parts of the world. What is left if we will not take a stand and say to this evil, YOU SHALL NOT PASS! Pray that God will give us the wisdom to do what is right and just. To love others as we love ourselves.
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