Should casino nightclubs be monitored by casino surveillance? (Poll Closed)

Does the casino have a financial stake in the night club and/or liability factor involved in what happens inside the club? Can the bartenders and servers not ring in drinks just as they do in the casino? Can the security guards sell drugs as they sometimes do in clubs? Then yes they should be monitored.

As anyone knows that works in a real Casino Surveillance Room, we do not have time to monitor trivial places like a night club. I understand the thought process of the last comment of bartenders stealing and Security dealing drugs. But it should be monitored by a separate entity that Surveillance, possibly somewhere within Security. Surveillance has enough to watch!!!!

If there are cameras, they are (or should be) property of the Surveillance department. If there are cameras anywhere, they should be property of and instrumentally used by the Surveillance department.

Internal "auditing" of Surveillance by Surveillance is a need that goes hand in hand with the above concept. Everyone is so afraid that surveillance people might use cameras for perverted personal reasons (and rightfully so), but when controls and review of activities for purposes of quality control are implemented then i think everyone can breathe a little easier.

I was at an off-site training seminar and had the "Priveledge" (not really) of sitting in front of a couple casino accountants who were highly against surveillance workers having access to accounting records or other personal (public) info that would lend to better investigations because "Surveillance was not qualified to have access"... So what was their qualifications? I guess bean counters are just more trustworthy...

I personally can't stand the belief that "Surveillance would just screw it up" as much as i can't stand the Surveillance guy who made us all look like a bunch of perverts with no sense professionalism.

-Just my two cents...

Casino floor, cages, chip banks, back of house, hotel, kitchens, car parks, etc., etc., etc., ... Hell's teeth, stone the crows!!! even the loo if I thought I could get that extra piece to the puzzle for the investigation in hand.

Surveillance should have (covert) access to ALL cameras - if not over-riding control of all PTZ cameras. (Covert in the sense that non-surveillance camera users should not know when we are across their cameras or system)

One of my best 'kills' when I was starting out in the business as a junior Surveillance Operator was all tied together by following one of the suspects into an on site restaurant that we had no camera access to - the operation nearly failed when the waiting staff almost blew my cover, had we had access to the (Security) camera there this risk could not have occurred. A lot of other theft incidences, where cameras were present, but for which we had no access, took longer to detect as 'the bean counters' who did monitor them were either in on the scam or didn't recognize the 'tells' that Surveillance would have.

"...Surveillance has enough to watch???" To those running Surveillance operations that accept 'work for works sake' (pace reports and the like) or have their staff producing other stats 'to make it look good(productive)' you will be always too busy looking the wrong way and miss those vital clues that sometimes only come by observing those, seemingly, chance encounters of crooks to other crooks you didn't know were connected, or worse crooks with patrons/staff you thought were honest off the floor in car parks, night clubs etc.

I suggest any operation that is 'too busy' to want to have EVERY AVAILABLE source of information misses the concept that 'from little acorns do mighty Oak trees grow.' At least have it - ignore it at your peril. Hopefully, someday someone may join your team and show you how valuable it is (and not just access to ALL cameras - Master Gaming Reports, Soft Count Exception Reports, etc.).

The purpose of Surveillance is to safeguard the assets and liabilities of the casino company, and the two most important assets are its guests and its gaming license. As evidenced by recent publicity, the nightclubs as they having been run over the last couple years are a real problem both for the guests and the license.
If illegal activity, extortion, serious hustling, theft, and even in one case alleged identiy and credit card theft, are happening, then it is obvious that there has been nobody watching.
If surveillance doesn't have the tools to do it, then the management of the company should be responsible enough to contract it out. Sending a few PI operatives in, together with cooperation with law enforcement, should give sufficient evidence.
I've watched the nightclubs, both from the floor and from the camera. Gathering evidence for handling by camera alone is insufficient.
Gaming regs require that casino premises be free of activity that gives Nevada gaming a bad name. It is the job of management to ensure this happens. If Surveillance hasn't the resources in therms of manpower or technology, provide them You are talking about licenses here that are worth billions of dollar, and the safety and security of the hotel guests. Just do it.

Should casino nightclubs be monitored by casino surveillance? This must be a joke? Surveillance is about how much $ spent on equipment. Do you have a million $ reserved for a new digital equipment or the traditional clunker reserved for nightclubs? Most casinos protect their almighty $ and doesn't spend on equipment until it breaks. Who cares? Let there be cameras. So, I can see the world.