I'm keeping my epoxy-lined Sigg. I have no doubt that it remains absolutely SAFE and that it leaches nothing into my water. I'd thought about sending it in for a replacement, but I've been reading that the new liner can flake off.
I agree that the real issue here is transparency. While Sigg never explicitly claimed its bottles were BPA free (rather, it has always only claimed there was no BPA leaching), the company did nothing to correct the public's misperceptions. Now it's paying the price for its lack of forthrightness. Sad in a way, because it's not a bad company, and it does produce a quality product.
I still like my Siggs. They're gorgeous and durable bottles. I hope the company can survive.
George - 15 years ago
Ask yourself if you want to support a company that doesn't acknowledge any blame for deceiving consumers. They have yet to admit doing anything wrong. Clearly people can see that SIGG used deception in their marketing right? Please carefully read the wording in the CEO response on their website. There is no mention of "sorry" or "we apologize". It's disgraceful. How can consumers trust a company going forward that won't acknowledge they made a mistake? Just look at what they are doing now, still hiding behind their escuse about their proprietary BPA free lining and not disclosing what's in it. I'm replacing my SIGG bottle with a stainless steel bottle because everytime I take a drink from the SIGG bottle I think about how I've been deceived. It spoils the taste of the drink no matter how fresh the water really tastes.
Marco - 15 years ago
If the bottle has been proven to not leach chemicals, than I have no problem continuing to use my sigg.
Buzz - 15 years ago
Amy,
Regarding SIGG, you mention that "The minute they found out, they moved to fix the problem.". While they may have moved to fix the problem, they neglected to inform consumers of this change for ONE WHOLE YEAR. This is not 'aggressive' behavior, this is sloth-like. Moreover, the timing of SIGG's admittance is suspiciously close to an industry report release which would have confirmed the presence of BPA in SIGG's pre-August 2008 liners.
In addition, the SIGG fiasco is not an issue of ideological purity, this is an issue of treating your customers with respect.
Jon - 15 years ago
These bottles have been thoroughly tested and showed 0% leaching of BPA.
How eco would it be to throw it way if it is not causing me any harm?
I will continue to use!
Jeanmarie Todd - 15 years ago
I don't know whether I have a SIGG bottle, I have a few generic bottles or with store brands, etc., on them. How to tell a SIGG bottle or other harmful one? Maybe I'll just send them all to the landfill. Sigh.
Lucy - 15 years ago
These plastic liners are a shell game, I am not waiting another handful of years to find out what crap they are using that researchers have not caught up with yet. The real issue is making food/drink containers out of aluminum, which is itself not safe, thus the need for a lining.
Amy, the A+ for customer service/spin is more than offset by the low marks for everything else. The reason it is standard operating procedure is because people like you will be so happy you'll overlook what was done. You should write back and ask them what IS in the new lining (not what isn't). Also realize that whatever fancy term they use for the lining is actually always a synonym for "plastic".
I never fell for the SIGG claim that their undisclosed "polymer" was safe. It sounded like B.S. to me and I loooooove that I was right! Klean Kanteen all the way.
Douglas - 15 years ago
I found Siggs to be far over priced to be an alternately used fuel bottle. And one couldn't attach a water filtration to their mouths, so I found a much less expensive and functional stainless alternative.
I still think any kind of commute through traffic is far more risky and worse for your health than whatever BPA was in the Siggs (or Nalgenes for that matter).
Melanie Freisinger - 15 years ago
I use glass mostly, but have purchased a Kleen Kanteen for myself and my son.
Sherri - 15 years ago
I replaced mine with stainless steel last year - just didn't trust it
w - 15 years ago
i use kleen kanteen and avoid that whole plastic nonsense altogether
bill - 15 years ago
I didn't trust any of the aluminum bottles with liners regardless of their claims and chose to purchase a stainless steel Kleen Kanteen instead ... three of them in fact.
JIm - 15 years ago
Glass baby. A mason jar and lid. Drinkin' it old school.
Amy - 15 years ago
I wrote SIGG an e-mail thanking them for being so aggressive in coming up with a new formula for their product. Then I respectfully asked them for replacements (we have three in our family). Within a mere 12 hours, they responded with a return label which will be used to return the bottles and they will all be replaced free of charge.
I am a HUGE fan of SIGG now, given their incredible customer service. Progressives seriously need to be just a wee bit more forgiving and understanding about....well pretty much everyone (I mean, how can you seriously be angry about anything that Obama has done? Jesus Christ, look at what he's been given and how many months has he been in office? The man is just extraordinary). It's not like SIGG was out there creating some liner that they KNEW had harmful chemicals in it. The minute they found out, they moved to fix the problem. Progressives should be THANKING them, and using them as examples for what other companies should be doing.
Ideological purity never gets anyone anywhere.
Heidi - 15 years ago
I want to replace mine because it makes me mad and I like to put my money to use with companies that are honest and concerned with the people they serve and not just their money. However, I don't know what other company to buy from since the article suggested most aluminum water bottles did use lining with BPA. It makes you feel like you can't trust anyone.
I'm keeping my epoxy-lined Sigg. I have no doubt that it remains absolutely SAFE and that it leaches nothing into my water. I'd thought about sending it in for a replacement, but I've been reading that the new liner can flake off.
I agree that the real issue here is transparency. While Sigg never explicitly claimed its bottles were BPA free (rather, it has always only claimed there was no BPA leaching), the company did nothing to correct the public's misperceptions. Now it's paying the price for its lack of forthrightness. Sad in a way, because it's not a bad company, and it does produce a quality product.
I still like my Siggs. They're gorgeous and durable bottles. I hope the company can survive.
Ask yourself if you want to support a company that doesn't acknowledge any blame for deceiving consumers. They have yet to admit doing anything wrong. Clearly people can see that SIGG used deception in their marketing right? Please carefully read the wording in the CEO response on their website. There is no mention of "sorry" or "we apologize". It's disgraceful. How can consumers trust a company going forward that won't acknowledge they made a mistake? Just look at what they are doing now, still hiding behind their escuse about their proprietary BPA free lining and not disclosing what's in it. I'm replacing my SIGG bottle with a stainless steel bottle because everytime I take a drink from the SIGG bottle I think about how I've been deceived. It spoils the taste of the drink no matter how fresh the water really tastes.
If the bottle has been proven to not leach chemicals, than I have no problem continuing to use my sigg.
Amy,
Regarding SIGG, you mention that "The minute they found out, they moved to fix the problem.". While they may have moved to fix the problem, they neglected to inform consumers of this change for ONE WHOLE YEAR. This is not 'aggressive' behavior, this is sloth-like. Moreover, the timing of SIGG's admittance is suspiciously close to an industry report release which would have confirmed the presence of BPA in SIGG's pre-August 2008 liners.
In addition, the SIGG fiasco is not an issue of ideological purity, this is an issue of treating your customers with respect.
These bottles have been thoroughly tested and showed 0% leaching of BPA.
How eco would it be to throw it way if it is not causing me any harm?
I will continue to use!
I don't know whether I have a SIGG bottle, I have a few generic bottles or with store brands, etc., on them. How to tell a SIGG bottle or other harmful one? Maybe I'll just send them all to the landfill. Sigh.
These plastic liners are a shell game, I am not waiting another handful of years to find out what crap they are using that researchers have not caught up with yet. The real issue is making food/drink containers out of aluminum, which is itself not safe, thus the need for a lining.
Amy, the A+ for customer service/spin is more than offset by the low marks for everything else. The reason it is standard operating procedure is because people like you will be so happy you'll overlook what was done. You should write back and ask them what IS in the new lining (not what isn't). Also realize that whatever fancy term they use for the lining is actually always a synonym for "plastic".
I never fell for the SIGG claim that their undisclosed "polymer" was safe. It sounded like B.S. to me and I loooooove that I was right! Klean Kanteen all the way.
I found Siggs to be far over priced to be an alternately used fuel bottle. And one couldn't attach a water filtration to their mouths, so I found a much less expensive and functional stainless alternative.
I still think any kind of commute through traffic is far more risky and worse for your health than whatever BPA was in the Siggs (or Nalgenes for that matter).
I use glass mostly, but have purchased a Kleen Kanteen for myself and my son.
I replaced mine with stainless steel last year - just didn't trust it
i use kleen kanteen and avoid that whole plastic nonsense altogether
I didn't trust any of the aluminum bottles with liners regardless of their claims and chose to purchase a stainless steel Kleen Kanteen instead ... three of them in fact.
Glass baby. A mason jar and lid. Drinkin' it old school.
I wrote SIGG an e-mail thanking them for being so aggressive in coming up with a new formula for their product. Then I respectfully asked them for replacements (we have three in our family). Within a mere 12 hours, they responded with a return label which will be used to return the bottles and they will all be replaced free of charge.
I am a HUGE fan of SIGG now, given their incredible customer service. Progressives seriously need to be just a wee bit more forgiving and understanding about....well pretty much everyone (I mean, how can you seriously be angry about anything that Obama has done? Jesus Christ, look at what he's been given and how many months has he been in office? The man is just extraordinary). It's not like SIGG was out there creating some liner that they KNEW had harmful chemicals in it. The minute they found out, they moved to fix the problem. Progressives should be THANKING them, and using them as examples for what other companies should be doing.
Ideological purity never gets anyone anywhere.
I want to replace mine because it makes me mad and I like to put my money to use with companies that are honest and concerned with the people they serve and not just their money. However, I don't know what other company to buy from since the article suggested most aluminum water bottles did use lining with BPA. It makes you feel like you can't trust anyone.