Are you following any of the Idols on Twitter? (Poll Closed)

Anoop was the main reason I signed up for it, to make sure every Trooper knew the correct phone number to vote. I promised myself to stop using it after he was voted off, but then he joined twitter...and I became his 24th follower. ;)

I only use twitter to follow celebrities. It's a better source than the tabloids.

Hell NO!

I do whatever TS tells me to do.

you both still suck

Option 4: No I am not following any of the idols, but I love Twitter.

I don't do twitter, partly because I'm not sure how to :P

I don't twitter either - cause I don't know how.... JC: What does :P mean?

I didn't post that earlier message "I do whatever TS tells me to do". If this keeps up, I will happily begin to post under everyone's name on this board as well and confuse the hell out of all of you! How's that?

Wasn't "ck" a/k/a Adam Hater suppose to be leaving? What's the hold up? Does she still have some "Anti-Adam Venom" she needs to spread?

Don't read CK posts. She sucks so bad, man!

ck hates Adam so much and pretends to be indifferent opr "appreciate his talent". Such BS from the former Grimoire.

Adam is hot, profoundly talented and incredibly sexy. Danny has no integrity and maintains his fan base on sympathy. Kris is boring and has no real talent. He is a notch below Taylor Hicks.

So happy to get all of this off my chest!

TALENT RULES- Myself, ck and Grimorie had that same problem where people used our names pretending to be us. So we decided to get a Gravatar and it seems to work since nobody has posted anything using our names. Make sure you pick a Gravatar that no one else can find. And I have a feeling that TS is the one who did that cause she seems very vicious in every post. Good Luck!

talent rules/ts - that's not my post you a-holes. take your crap somewhere else. you are the alias causing trouble everywhere you go. it's not the first time you've posted under other people's names. btw i like allison, not adam, not kris.

neil-Is Talent rules another one like TS? Well sorry to hear that but why don't you just get yourself a Gravatar like I just posted up there. It does work.

Who posted under my id, TS?

TLC: Hi girlfriend! QuietStorm is on the only poll. Most people don't want to come here cause of TS and all the garbage. Funny, Grimoire hasn't been around for the last two polls - hope she's okay. What's funnier is that TS and Talent Rules know everything about Grimoire, you and myself. I believe it's Luke/TS/roar!/(.), K, N - all the same person. I'd guess they also posted under tantra flower's id also. I think they're still under the conspiracy theory spell.

i twitter the jonas brothers.

Some people like to stir the pot to see what drama they can stir up, but honestly this is so grade school! The games people play! I think some people need to tuck away their little horns and tails, and drop that pitch fork! Let's move on to something more mature and positive!

QS- I believe that we are dealing with grade school kids in here. They enjoy in what they do and get a high out of it. Hi ck- Yes I've noticed the trolls coming in here and I also stayed out until today. I hope that Grim is fine too... She's probably the smart one here and not coming in. Good thing you and I have a Gravatar set up or who knows what they would be saying with our id's.

HI TLC! You may be right. It got awfully quiet on this site after my comment. There are just better ways to get a laugh without it having to hurt someone, or to tear someone down. NIE just posted on the summer tour site. We will probably stay on that site awhile longer, I'm not sure. I'm going back and forth between these two.

QS- I don't know that other site except for this one and the Grab the american idol tickets. Maybe you shouldn't say anything over here where you go or they will get you there too.

TLC....I'm talking about Rickey's poll site on whether we plan to go see the idols on tour. I'm sure this site is no secret, that's why I mention it. The cat was already out of the bag! LOL

TLC: http://answers.polldaddy.com/poll/1705350/ - that's the link to the other site - please come over. Nie, QS are there.

I twitter "girls next door" and Hugh Hefner. I also twitter Charles Manson when I'm not busy twittering the Jonas Brothers.

Somebody stole my Avatar green music note insignia, so please ignore all future messages that contain this as they are not from me. It is an imposter. From now on, I will NOT be using an avatar insignia music note.

Lia,

ck is the one who posts under other people's IDs. E-mail Rickey. He will tell you. She is also Grimoire 13 too. Sick, sick lady.

Yes, anonymous/TS/Luke/roar1/(.)/K/N/Tyran/Notsayin - go ask Rickey, please. And we'll just see who it is - You're a dumb "twit"! LOL

QS- Oh okay. And thank you ck for the address to the site. Ck you need to get a Gravatar from a picture that you have in your computer so this way they can't find one just like it.

There's another Lia here? I usually only post once, usually the first one. :/

TS/Talent Rules/anonymous: Go "twit" yourself!!!! LOL

PPL but I'm going to repeat myself again by telling you to get a Gravatar. You are just making it easy for them to pretend that it's you in here when it's not. . No one has used my ID yet since I put a picture next to my name... :)

But one person can get many gravatars. So, for example, oner person could, by random example, be Grimoire 13, ck and TLC with different little pictures. Right?

"CK" is absolutely, positively the same person as Grimorie 13, among others. Don't let her BS you any more. Liar.

TS/Talent Rules/anonymous/Duh: Let's get over this silliness, ok? I'm going to extend an olive branch and ask that you join the discussion. So tell me, do you twitter your Idols? Only 2 people here seem to actually twitter. What other music do you like?

Duh!- I suppose you can do that but who would want to go through that all the time. Why don't you try it cause I know you are TALENT RULES, TS AND DUH!.

TS and others concerned, I have communicated a long time on these polls and I know for absolute certain CK has never impersonated Grimoire or anyone else. I am pretty adept at detecting subtle differences in writing patterns and speech, not to mention the details and subject matter spoken of. I hope you will choose to join us in our conversations, we would like to know your interests and opinions on different topics as well. It's time to quit beating a dead horse, and the wrong one at that! So please, join in should you care to!

TLC: Remember how funny it was when Grim was showing you how to use the Gravatar? That was a hoot!

Thanks, QS! Do you twitter? ..... Other than when you see Brandon? LOL! He IS good looking. Do you prefer his long hair or his short hair?

ck- Grim wasn't showing me how to use the Gravatar I told her about it. I think it was you she was trying to teach how to use it.... :)

TLC: Oh yeah, you're right!!!!

CK! Brandon makes me do more than just twitter! I'm getting a hot flash just thinking about him! I definitely prefer him with the longer hair. It's his eyes and his voice that turn me on! I've always been an eye girl! What is your favorite "part" on a man? LOL

QuietStorm: Oh yeah.... the eyes. I do like the tall, lean look - toned but not over-built - I like my men to be able to put their arms down by their sides - no hulk hogans types. At first I preferred his long hair, but after that 50 minutes of documentary - his short cut grew on me. Either way he's hot!

CK! I think you and I are turning into cougars!!!!

Honey, I've always liked them younger!!!! LOL!

I am following myself. Nobody else will follow me so I decided to follow me!! It is so fun.. You wouldn't believe what I did today!!!

Pinky: Sorry, I don't know what you did today. But I know what you'll do if you watch this video...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz1W_omigwg

Man O Man O Man! There seems to be a Debbie Downer on both sites again! Maybe we should all move to the Sanjaya Malakar poll site. They wouldn't dare follow us there! LOL

QS: Did you ever date a younger guy?

CK.... That was a good choice for Pinky! I'm still laughing!! I seldom found men my own age. They were either older by a few years, but mostly younger. Thankfully most people guess me to be 15 to 20 years younger than I am, and I have to say men my age look so old to me! Right now I find I am most attracted to men from about 25 years of age to in their thirties. Oh My God I am a cougar!

OMGoodness! I like younger guys too. Always have.... But I am past dating the 25 yrs. olds these days though I still find that age group attractive! There's just something about a younger guy - and they are soooo into older women - it's like they're greatful just to be around you! I know you know what I mean. Nie would think we're soooo bad (I think).

nice to make fun of me ck. thanks a lot :(

Sorry Pinky. That wasn't me.... someone stole my Gravatar, Duh???? Serisouly, do you twitter? Are you going on the Idol tour?

CK! Have you ever watched The Bachelorette? I get so hooked on that show. I play a secret game of trying to figure out which man would be right for me, and of course he's got to be HOT! It's on tonight. So far I think I am most attracted to a guy on there named Reid. Poor Jillian seems to be attracted to a guitar playin player. He's really there to further his career and the other guys know it. He is attractive with nice eyes but I've learned some hard lessons in life to steer clear of men like him.

ck, What are you talking about? You freak! Thanks for the warm welcome!

Pinky, Let me make it up to you. Terri from Rickey's other poll is throwing a party for us. How about you come too?

QuietStorm - I usually watch it, but haven't this season. Anybody cute?

What do you mean? What are you trying to say? Why are you so mean anyway? I never did anything to you. Why do you have to pick on me?

CK.... There are a few. None that make me twitter like Brandon though! You know another guy I felt extremely attracted to is Steve Kilbey, lead singer of The Church. Watch the video of him singing "Reptile" when he was young. He would now be in his late forties I think. He still looks very handsome, but my gosh when he was young......HOLY MOLY!!!!

She's a b**** Pinky. Everyone hates her. She is like that passenger sitting next to you on the plane who smells like cabbage and bad breath. She is a mean b****. That's all!

QuietStorm: Yes, Steve is very good looking. I watched the very end of the Bachelorette - all of the final guys kinda looked the same - they all have the same hair style. Reid is attractive. Is Jake the one that talks about all the guys on their dates? Looks like some real drama next week. So who do you think couldn't perform? LOL

CK.....The show is still on here. Please tell me she didn't send Reid home! Do you know who she let go? Tell me Tell me!

simple minded you are a f___ing jackass. get a life and take pinky the pig with you.

Neil.....Thank you for saying what we have all been thinking!!!

CK! Now I know what you were talking about when you asked me about who couldn't perform! I have a feeling it's Reid! He is turning out to be so neurotic! As much as I prefer his looks to the other choices, I am having second thoughts about him. Sweet guy, but oh my God!

QS: Even if I had read your post, I'm sure I would have told you - I couldn't spoil the surprise ending. You think it's Reid? That Wes (guitar man) looks like a jerk - does she like him? Jake is coming back - I don't know anything about him.... but could he be the one that goes down on his knee and proposes? Is Michael the 25yr old - the one that makes her laugh? I like guys that can make me laugh.

I did nothing! ck is the one picking on me for no good reason. Why do i get abused? I have been posting on Rickey's for over 2 years. Nobody has ever been this mean.

what a douche, pinky.

cut out with the sexist language, Neil. Completely inappropriate and unnecessary.

douche is not sexiest. either gender can be one, including you.

QuietStorm: There was some hottie on "Mental" - I don't know his name, but cute. Are you working late tonite?

QS: I do watch "Mental", but that's not my post above. I read your camping post - what a hoot! I guess I'll watch Bachelorette next week... it looks good.

CK! Next week looks really good on The Bachelorette. I hope you do watch. Jillian is a really sweet girl, and she reminds me of myself in that she is picking the wrong men. Coming from a small town I was quite naive and innocent. I thought whatever men presented themselves to be is what they were. BOY did I learn some big hurtful lessons! Not to mention I always seemed attracted to the good lookin bad boys. Players!

TLC....Are you still out there? Please join in...we don't mean to leave you out :)

Yeah, TLC - come back!!! Have you run into Grim anywhere??

QS: Yeah, good looking bad boys can be VERY attractive. A few polls back you mention your son. I left a comment about how nice it was that the two of you went to see VAST together. Is he married?

Unfortunately for me, I never have found "rich" guys very attractive!!!!!!

HI CK! My son will turn 25 in August, and no he isn't married,nor is he in a relationship right now. When I was only 19 yrs old I dated an extremely wealthy guy I met in Ft. Collins. We met on the CSU campus in the auditorium. He sat two rows ahead of me and kept looking back and staring at me. When the show was over he asked me out. He was a frat boy majoring in math and physics. When he picked me up he was driving a very fancy sports car. I asked him what it was and it was a Mercedes of some sort. I had no idea. He was an only child, and his own personal wealth at the age of 22 included 32 acres in downtown Honolulu, 840 acres in the mountains, money in 8 banks, and he owned a whole bunch of stocks. He would also inherit his mothers wealth on top of that, and she was in poor health with diabetes at that time. He treated me like gold. So you know what I did? I dropped him for a guy that I thought was cuter. Money didn't mean anything to me and I think that is why he really liked me. The guy I left him for would start abusing me 6 mos into the relationship! That's how stupid I was back then!

The term "douche " is degrading to women, you moron. Since you are such an obnoxious idiot, it doesn't surprise me that you are unable to comprehend this. Remember the stupid comment you made about "bio"curious on the other thread? Go get an education. Even an on-line degree program would be better than nothing at this point. LESSON #1: You do not go on line calling other posters "douche". No go look for that GED program. Maybe with a lot of extra work you can even apply to Community College one day, though I am dubious.

The above post was meant for "neil"

pogo- no one else finds that post offensive other than you and how do we know you are even a woman? you could be lying....

pogo ur a phoney. douche is sexist and degrading but calling someone b***** isn't.

Hi QS and ck and everyone- Sorry that I haven't been coming in here but I've been extremely busy right now. Since I'm moving in with my sister there's a lot of work that needs to be done inside the house and outside. When my sister's husband died she died with him so she just let things go for 21/2 yrs. Coming is Sept.28 it will be 3 yrs. since he's passed. The weather has been in the high 90's here and muggy so I have a great tan right now since I been working outside the house a lot. ck- I don't have no idea where Grim is right now and I miss her too. I have read some of your stories here and they are very interesting... LOL. Don't know when I'll be back but I'll try to pop in here and there. Have a great day!

Oh one question to ask you ladies.... I tried going into twitter and it seems that I have to sign up, right? It won't let me use my ID and everytime I pick another one someone else has it. I picked like 10 ID names and can't get one.

TLC: Good luck with your move-in and yard work. Be sure to drink plenty of fluids. I hope you will find the time to drop in now and then - so if you have a tan, I guess the SUN must be out where you live! LOL Still no sun here... :(

ck- Thank you and yes I'm drinking lots of fluids. We've been having a lot of rain here too but now for a few days it's been sunny and hot just the way I like it...LOL. That's awful that you aren't getting nice weather by you. I'd have little men in white coats come and get me because I would be going insane....LOL

TLC: I don't know how to twitter. Is it on the phone or computer? Pogo twitters, maybe she could help.

ck- I thought it was on the computer you twitter. I know there is on phone also but I've never done that. I noticed reading over here that QS said to you that she left a message in the twitter. Is it the twitter in the homepage?

QuietStorm: When I was 17, I got a job over the summer in a department store to earn some $$$$ for college in the fall. There were a lot of college guys working there also - future dentist, lawyers, doctors - they all came from money but back then you reached a certain age and went to work. Most of these guys were like 21 or 22 - and as far as I was concerned they might as well been 60! But I was soooo in love with my 16 year old high school sweetheart I never had any interest in anyone else. This one really good looking guy was always around me. He would be graduating law school the following year. All the girls were crazy about him... and the more I ignored him the more he talked to and buzzed around ME. Other girls would give me notes to pass to him during work, or give me messages about meeting for break or lunch. I'd be like... you know I'm not your personal secretary. He'd say things like "if you weren't jailbait, I'd ask you out" - I'd be "lucky for me that I am". Came fall and he left for school. When he said good-bye, he told me he'd be back when I turned 18. I remember saying something scacastic like "yeah, I'll be holding my breath till you get back." Don't you know he drove up from Tenessee the day after my birthday? My mom thought he was adorable and encouraged me to go out with him - and he was a lawyer. Well my boyfriend and I had broken up by then, so I did go out with him.....boooorrrring...... he soon became a high profile prosecutor, a congressman and now has a private practice. I spoke with him maybe ten years later on the phone for some legal advise and he told me he named his son after me.... I said "oh, Christopher - that's a nice name". He said "No, just "Chris" - after you." Boy was I dumb back then....

TLC: No, she meant this "Twitter" poll.

TLC: No matter how busy you get, please don't get too busy to drop in here once in awhile, ok???? I thought Grim said a few polls back that she only blogs on Rickey - so I hope everything is alright with her. She's been gone a long time now.....

JC,

How do YOU know nobody else finds it offensive? What a ridiculous statement! Pinkey posts something rather innocently and she is called a "douche"?? Yes, it is a demeaning term for women and I assume you are a man if you would support that crap. Man, are you guys for real? Rickey's site warns against the use of "foul and offensive language". THAT is both foul and offensive. Sorry you can't "get" that. Maybe this term is used commonly where you grew up.

I'm going to take your advice TLC and not make responses to this anymore.

Pogo: Do you know how to twitter? Some of us could use some help? Not that it matters are you a gal or a guy?

HI CK, I liked your story about that guy. If you could turn back time, [ like Cher says in that song LOL] do you now wish you would have ended up with him? You obviously made quite the impact on him!

QS: Yeah - it's always the ones we CAN'T have that we want... Did you sleep.

JC: I have to agree with you and neil. "Douche" is gender free. They use the word on TV and radio commercials everyday. I find it more offensive that someone I don't even know calls me a b*****. I seriously doubt that Pogo is the original blogger. By the way TS, Rickey uses the expression sucksohard - so I doubt he'd find douche offensive.

The term is very low class and crude too. Gender neutral term? How many men douche, ck? And even iof people are referred to by vulgar terms, if the origin of the term is one that is to demean women, then it matters not.

It seems any time someone other than 3 or 4 of you have a discussion, you either act like there is a conspiracy and only welcome those to whom you agree. Then when one person (Neil) refers to someone as a "douche" (And guess what it is OFFENSIVE!).--it's fine. What if someone called you a douche ck for sending an innocuous post? Very hypocritical; think about it.

I think douche or douche bag is funny...it makes me laugh. In my mind I just can't get that worked up over that. There's more serious stuff in the world to get upset over. Let it go POGO.....Breathe, just breathe! And have a nice day!

ARE YOU A MAN OR A WOMAN????? Actually, the proper terminology is "douche bag". A "bag" is gender free. And Neil's response was to someone calling me a b****. And yet the word b**** doesn't seem to offend you because it was aimed at ME. Do not be sooo pretentious, Pogo. What you find upsetting is that someone came to my defense. Nobody here agrees with you, YET I've invited you and "Pinky" to join the discussion. Do you choose to do that???? No, you continue this charade of being Pogo, Pinky and all the others.

QuietStorm: Yeah.... there are more serious issues at hand. I just saw on the news that North Korea is planning another missle launching - they plan on wiping the US off the face of the earth.

It is a very serious and scary situation with Korea and Iran. There is no doubt the fanatical terrorists would love any weapon, especially nuclear to drop on us. And Korea or Iran would be insane enough to let them have such a weapon to do their dirty work. Korea especially is testing us to see how far they can take it. We are spread thin right now with our involvement in two wars and they know it. I hate the war machine but I think we better keep building our military and prepare for yet another war, just in case!

ck,

You are seriously paranoid. I am parading as nobody. It's no wonder that everyone leaves who posts here.

Actually, isn't Danny Gokey the original douche bag? CK's latest entry "looks" very familiar. "sounds" a lot like Grimoire 13 , the lonely shut-in!

So I suppose I'm Pogo and Ts and Pinky too, lol!! Who else could I be? Jesus, Terri, and K too??????? CK, get a "real" life in addition to this make-believe one. Make some 3D friends, buy a vowel. You can be such a bitch (yes, a fat ass bitch!) to anyone who comes here, Grimoire 13. Oops! I mean CK. Stop acting like such a bully.

Rickey may or may not personally find "douche" offensive, but he would have a problem with one poster referring to another a a "douche", unprovoked, especially because it is considered to be an offensive term to most folks. Except, of course, for ck, the douche bag, who likes it. So, from now on, I'll refer to you, ck as "The douche bag". Fair enough?

Since you have no issue with this term being applied to you, I will refer to you regularly on this and other boards as "CK THE DOUCHE BAG". You may have to start posting again as Grimorie 13 to gain some credibility --what a sad thought! SO, am I "pogo, Pinky and all the others" too? IS everyone AGAINST you?? ALL the OTHERS??? LOL!

No... I don't remember you, sorry. Obviously, you must have been unimpressive.... LOL. By the way, I've got a cute little butt.

QuietStorm - I agree with you. I think we are in a very vunerable situation.

Pogo and Remember ME, You can't call CK paranoid when she is constantly being accused of being all these different characters. Accusing her makes you sound like the paranoid one! Sorry, but you know that's true. There is a bean bag running lose on these polls stirring up trouble and we keep extending an invitation to join our circle of friends to no avail. We offer fellowship, a listening ear, fun stories, laughs, and just a good time. We have different opinions and had different picks on idols, and that's okay, we all like each other anyway. We can still learn and have a good time together on the board. We invite anyone in the whole world to join in. People aren't staying away because of us, it's because of the trouble making bean bags that seem to have nothing better to do. So please, lighten up and stop attacking CK. And please, most people take douche bag for the light hearted joke that it is, get over it!

remember me - i'm the douche bag that called pinky a douche; not ck. so if you have a complaint then it's with me. just let it drop man.

Since when is "being called a douche bag" a light hearted joke? When Pinky was called a "douche" by ME it didn't seem "light hearted". But since you think this is so, I will continue to call ck a douche bag since you too think it is perfectly fine. It would not be insulting, right?

People have left because of ck. What about King and Ellery (the girl from China)? They are gone because of her and stated this on another post!! You didn't know that??????

ha ha! let's all do it! She seems to think the name is fine and not rude or insulting because it is mentioned on tv and the radio, lol!! CK IS A DOUCHE. Wow, this is fun!!

CK IS A DOUCHE CK IS A DOUCHE CK IS A DOUCHE CK IS A DOUCHE

TAKE A CHILL PILL AND TAKE OFF THOSE CRANKY PANTS! LIFE IS GOOD!!!!

AND NEIL IS A DUMB, "BIO"-CURIOUS DOUCHE BAG!! That was not as satisfying as I had hoped. It is true, just not satisfying. I'd rather say CK IS A DOUCHE BAG knowing that she has no problem with this term being thrown at her--she said so--see above. See, you knew when you called Pinky a douche that it was meant to demean and insult. But ck decided to tell us all that the term "douche" or "docuhe bag" is perfectly fine, so I feel okay saying this to her.

Hey ck,

Where's Wild Cat?

BOY! CK really got to you! What did she say that hurt you so bad that you feel you have to keep this going?

QuietStorm: Thanks girlfriend. Weird, cause I didn't call anybody any names. I just didn't think it was as offensive as some other things I've read. I don't swear or use potty mouth language on any posts. Do you know who Wild Cat is? I dunno.... This person is falling apart and I hope no one gets physically hurt.

neil - I don't think we've met before.... Are you the ultimate bad boy?

maybe....

CK....I vaguely remember that name Wild Cat appearing for a short while on one of the polls and she probably said something not so flattering about Adam I'm guessing. Whatever it was, it needs to be buried in the past and forgotten about. Past history! Lets all turn the page!

Oh no! I'm falling apart!!!!!!!!!!!!

My new name on Rickey's page comments section and in the polls is going to be: "CK is a DB".

ck, do you prefer we call you "douche bag" or just "douche". Or my fav, "douchy bitch"? Since you think the name is fine, I thought you might prefer to be called one over the other. LEt us know soon! Thanks :)

Knock it off with the douche bag-speak. Seriously, I happen to be offended. Whether or not ck and neil are being asses about this, I still don't feel like seeing "douche bag" everywhere on this site. It is vulgar. If it supposedly bothers you, then knock it off nutcase. I have a feeling that "ME" is posting all of this "douche" crap.

So neil.... who do you like to do? Please share. QS: Yeah it's time to get over this... and back to hot guys. 25-35yr olds? You must be in good shape girlfriend... Do you still get to party a lot these days?

My opinion about this is that CK is a douche bag! Anyone reading here do not take her seriously. She is on her 3rd or 4th identity and only the most empty headed of us can't see through her. Besides...SHE IS A FAT ASS DOUCH BAG!! Funny how she remembers the identities of posters who posted long before she came along--those who posted the same time as Grimoire. HEY, I KNOW!! Let's drag some of those posts over here as a link since they are still accessible via Rickey's site and we can compare and see if ck is also someone else! Won't that be fun?

That would be fun. Truth be told, I'd enjoy that! Drag 'em over!

Honestly now, what are you guys getting out of all of this? Is it building your own personal character and making you a better person? I think not. There seems to be a bruised ego here or something. CK knows better than to sweat the small stuff, and this is all very very very small stuff. Put this in perspective and you will see how unimportant and silly this all is.

ck and quietstorm - i'm 32, is that too old for you girls? i'm told i look like a young bob seger but taller with better teeth. i own a small computer company so i hope you don't hold it against me that i have a few bucks to spare. i put in a call and a few of my guys are tracing this loon right now - didn't one of you say you wanted a bean bag chair? i liked allison this season.

HI NEIL, Thank you for revealing yourself! Bob Seger is hot! Grrrrr! In case you don't know, CK and I are still posting under the poll Will You Watch The Idol Tour. We have been hesitant to come fully on to this poll considering what has been flying through the air! Geeez! What state do you live in if you don't mind revealing?

nyc

Ahhh! Then you share the same time zone as CK. You probably know I'm 2 hrs behind. Ever since the tragedy of 911, I gained the utmost respect for the people of NY. How are they doing at ground zero, are they making much progress with the new towers?

now they're battling over whose money to use on the 2nd tower. so it's just one more delay. it's after 2. gotta go, it's getting late. don't you ladies every sleep?

SWEET DREAMS! I probably won't stay on much longer either, unless CK gets me going on some hot topic. I have tomorrow off so I can sleep in, but I'm usually up around 7am anyway!

Oh my (blush) what a typo I made....."So neil.... who do you like to do?" I really meant WHAT do you like to do? LOL I think I got little flustered cause I'm not a fat butt. LOL

QuietStorm: Thanks for helping to weather the storm.... I read some of the stuff on the other poll. Oh my... I'm getting tired now. Tomorrow my friends. Luv ya.

I was wondering about that CK! What it was you meant! LOL

QuietStorm: Figures you'd notice that! LOLOLOL

good night.

quietstorm, did you find any princes among those frogs?

QS: Haven't heard anything from you. Did you fall in the lake????

HI NEIL & SUMMERS EVE ! CK you crack me up! LOL Your humor is so enjoyable and refreshing, and I laughed so hard you have no idea! And Neil I didn't make it to the lake due to storms moving into the area so no new frogs or princes! Instead I was running around town taking care of errands I needed to do, and hitting a few of my favorite shops just for the fun of it. How was your day?

QS: The sun came out today. Went to the shore for a few hours. TLC and JC were posting all day. We probably missed them since we were both out.

CK,,,,,It sounds like the storm hit on the other site. This one seems serene so far. I don't know if it is the death of Farrah Fawcett and Michael Jackson, but I feel kind of down today, I'm not really sure why. Do you ever get that way where you don't know why you feel the way you do, but you know you're not your usual self? I hate this feeling.

Weather is perfect here--no strorm, no rain. Thanks for asking!

CKTDB,,,,,How are you doing?

QS: Oh yeah.... that's a horrible feeling. Anything in the past (as insignficant as it might seem) happen around this month? I took me a long time to realize that I get that feeling the end of May. Then it occurred to me that my Dad's birthday was early June. And hard as I try, I still get that feeling. But it could very well be Farrah or Michael Jackson.... I figured out that we are about the exact same age - we grew up when both of them got their first breaks. Remember watching the Jackson Five for the first time on Ed Sullivan? Cheer up!

QS: I'm doing fine. Thanks! :)

I still can't completely pinpoint why I'm feeling this way. It clouded up and rained earlier, and it is still very cloudy outside. I get melancholy and reflective alot on these kind of days. Maybe that's it, the weather is getting to me. Sometimes it is sad to see that nothing ever stays the same. People change, hometowns change, and sometimes you just wish you could freeze time and places so it all stays familiar.

Well..... it appears that somethings don't change.... LOLOLOL. You could just be very tired. You've been staying up very late the last couple of nights posting when you shoulda been out partying!!!!

CKTDB,, Are you sure you wouldn't rather pick a name that is more personal and reflective as to who you are? I would genuinely like to know more about who you are, and what things interest you. This is for real!!

OKAY CK! You got me laughing again! Thank You! I'm going to pull myself out of this, I just need to think about funny stuff. Do you have any funny stuff?!

Did you know that CKTDB is TS also? She's using two different id's so why is she bitching for! And she didn't make me confess about my id's because I could of just kept it to myself but I like my new friends so thought I would let them know. You are making too much of this TS when you are doing the same thing and at least I came out and said about my two id's. And again the ip address is soooo not mine. And TLC is the only id I have.

QS,ck,JC- How sad is it that Michael Jackson passed away today? With Farrah F. too but that was expected to happen sooner or later. I heard that he had a heart attack but does anyone else know anymore about it of why it happened or what caused it? I loved his music and he was a wonderful performer. I would of loved to go see one of his concerts which now I will never be able to. It's really sad.

Liar TLC/Bazooka. You lied to everyone on this board in an attempt to discredit Adam Lambert, and now you are trying to deflect the blame. Go create a 4th ID and talk to yourself again. Stop lying about WHY you added another ID too. If someone supposedly "stole" your Bazooka ID, then why do you respond to them and have a civil conversation i.e.: "I agree Bazooka" "me too, TLC" . Such bull crap. YOU HAVE BEEN OUTED!!!!

QS: Why pick a real name when you can pretend to be me?????? And you guys are actually addressing this guy as CKTDB?????? :) I'm running out of funny, just like I'm running out of patience.... NOT!!!!!! LOLOLOLOL. It's after midnight here and this is the best that I can do right now. WARNING TO POGO - DO NOT, (I repeat) DO NOT WATCH THIS VIDEO..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_faInfFMtr4

TLC: Don't explain yourself to anyone. We love you. And you're right, it is TS. I only stayed on Grab Your AI tickets to play him as the fool he is. Looks like my gravatar is not working.... again. QS: That was me... Summer'sEve.

YES, PLEASE do address me as CKTDB. PLEASE! I want to make sure everyone knows how douchy CK is! As I do plan to continue to follow ck, the douche bag around this entire board to infinity as her douche bag shadow. Sort of like the ghost she saw in her kitchen WOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoO...........

TS/ctdb- Oh stop crying already and trying to make yourself look good in here because it's not working. You are looking worse each time you flap your tongue around thinking of things to say just to cover your ass with the two id's you are using. You aren't fooling anyone here either, moran. I might just create another ID for myself because it would be more interesting then replying back to you....LOL

OMGoodness.... This guy is clearly screaming out for attention. Obviously, he wasn't breast fed as a baby! LOL

Thanks Liar TLC/Bazooka! It looks like I am getting to you too! Yippy!!!!! You sound so annoyed AHAHAHAHHAHA! IT.IS.WORKING!!!!!Keep those fake IDs coming, TLC--we all know how good you are at doing that!

Ck- Thank you for believing me and again I'm sorry for not telling you sooner, I really wish I did. TS is just loving this so much right now by picking on you and me and I'm glad it's not you only now. Keep it coming TS, it's very entertaining.

TS- You really are getting to me because I'm laughing my ass off right now at you...LOL... Im so glad that you are having fun cause I'am too.

Oh yes Summer's Eve and CK. I wasn't breast fed. Will you breast feed me? It's never too late. Thanks so much for your concern, Douche bag CK!

Hey! That one WAS NOT ME (above)--but thanks! Good one!!

ck- are you summer'seve now or not?

Wow--that is so great that ck, another imposter cyber-bully liar believes you when you lie. One liar believes another. Oh, the laughter!!!!! Glad you are enjoying this TLC/Bazooka! Cuz I'm going to the end. Enjoy it Liar!!

TS- yeah sure it wasn't you... we so believe you....NOT!!!

"YES, PLEASE do address me as CKTDB. PLEASE!" I love it when they beg.....

TS- OH PLEASE DON'T END THIS.... I want to keep having some more fun with you.... pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee stay and keep me company... pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.... pretty pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....LOLLOLOLOLOLOLLOL

TLC: I'm still the same gravatar.... just depends on how "fresh" I want to be with TS. LOLOLOLOL

LOL!!!!

ck- I wasn't sure but that's a good one...LOL. QS- I'm having a blast with TS and since ck says it's a HE I think I'm starting to fall in love with him....LOL.

QS: Unfortunately.... this is as "reflective" as this guy gets. LOL

TLC: Well.... one thing's for sure.... no dating until he's weaned.... I don't breast feed in public! LOL

Summer'sEve- Okay but then it will be okay for me to date him....LOL... I know I have bad taste in men but he just got to me...LOL

ck, are your breasts as cute as your cute little butt?

LOL...neil you are cute!!!

Hmmmm.... neil, well right now they're still "perky", but only God knows what they'll be like after TS is finished! LOL I imagine these beauties be his first. LOLOLOLOL. TLC: You DO have lousy taste in men! LOL

Okay, QuietStorm... Do you feel better now? You gotta be laughing!!

tlc, ur cute too. but don't trust that jerk.

You definitely got me out of the blues with that one! LOLOLOL

neil- Thank you that was sweet and also thank you for the tip on the jerk...LOL ck-And yes I do have bad taste but I guess the way we dont trust one another brought something special between us....LOL

TLC: I'm gonna have to sleep on that one!!!!!! LOL

TLC: Nope.... a couple hours of sleep, and I STILL can't wrap my head around your last comment! LOL

Hi TLC--LIAR lame brain and ck the DOUCHE BAG/cyber-bully on "ameridol udpates" site. Did you miss me?

Hey CK--remember back when you used profanity on the Ameridol updates to "Just Another Glambert" who is a young teen,? That was so pathetic! And when you made all of the homophobic comments about Adam Lambert thinking none of your "fake cyber friends" on this board would find out? Soooo funny. You are still a DOUCHY loser. ANYBODY READING THIS: DO not trust or "speak" with ck/Summer's Eve (she is the one using the little green musical note to pretened she has a musical education background). IGNORE HER. SHE IS A TROLL. IGNORE THE MUTI-FACETED TLC AS WELL--SHE LOVES TO TALK TO HERSELF BY POSTING UNDER DIFFERENT NAMES.

"thinking none of your "fake cyber friends" on this board would find out?" - Hmmmm.... I don't get it..... according to YOU their fake - so wouldn't they already know? LOL

TS/ctdb- Hi baby, I missed you. Hope you had sweet dreams about me last night.

Yeah! Let's all follow CKTDB! Don't read ck! Go man!

Good morning TLC - How ya doing? Yep, he slept like a baby!!! LOL but I think he woke up a bit cranky this morning..... hehehehehe

neil - Reading over these posts, I noticed that CKTDB finds you less satisfying than me...... ouch!

ck- Good Morning to you sweetie.... Yes I noticed a bit of crankiness in him this morning...LOL... Maybe he was having sweet dreams of the both of us.

ck, figures.

CK - Why are you so mean? Why did you post that video for QuietStorm? Do you think she would appreciate that foul video?

POGO - DON'T FOLLOW CK. WE ONLY FOLLOW CKTDB FROM NOW ON.

Pogo - Don't get your panties in a knot, girlfriend.... Besides, since your so sensitive, I warned you not to watch it.

ck - she's a sensitive guy. see her 3rd post on the tour poll. tlc - good morning, sweetie. where is quietstorm?

quietstorm probably would appreciate the video. she has a sense of humor.

Oh.... yeah, she's a male. okay Pogo, don't get your tightie whities in a bind! LOL

neil- Good morning to you sweetie. Don't know where QS is. Maybe she's tired of reading these sick posts by the sicko's.

TLC: Well..... I certainly laughed myself SICK last night!!!! LOL In fact, I laughed soooo hard and soooo loud, my kid kept coming over to the PC to see what was sooooo funny!!! HOHOHOHO!!!! Can you just imagine this guy sitting there typing this stuff??? What do you think he looks like? HOT or NOT???

TLC/Bazooka etal: be easy on yourself. Yes, since you talk to yourself and post to yourself on a public board pretending to be 2 different people--that could be considered "sicko", but I like to say it's just pathetic, not really sick. For anyone who is still curious, check out the past polls on Rickey.org ("Who is your top 3 favorite") where "Bazooka" and "TLC" agreed with one another---only they ae the SAME person!! Weird, huh? There ar more too--jsut look for the trail of osts by Bazooka and TLC!

neil: QuietStorm is at work (I think). No princes (or frogs) today!!!!

Glad I can keep you entertained and provide a respite for your loneliness! I'll keep trying, you little Douche ck, to make you giggle your girdle off! Glad to add a spot of sunshine to your depressing, drab emptiness.

OMGoodness.... now this guy wants us to "research" in garbage??? LOL

HI EVERYONE! Today I'm taking off for Lake Cochiti to find my pollywogs! Hoping to find some great fishing lures along the shoreline as well. That is like a fun treasure hunt! About one week ago, they found a car submerged at the end of one of the boat ramps. It contained the skeletal remains of a man and his 3 kids who had disappeared back in 2001. There was a custody fight going on, so they think this was deliberate. So sad the innocent kids paid the ultimate price for the selfish act of one spiteful adult. The kids were 12 yrs, 7 yrs, and 2 yrs old. So tragic! Anyway, I'll be back with you sometime this evening. Hugs and kisses to all!

I thought this guy didn't want anyone to follow me, read or "speak" to me. Sounds a little hypocritical, don't cha think? LOLOLOL

Yeah, I thought we were only going to follow the douche guy (cktdb).

QS: That's so tragic..... Have a good day.

cktdb is definitely not hot.

TS/cktdb- You are saying that I talk to myself where up a few lines yesterday you did that. It's about the breast feeding one and you answered yourself back that it wasn't you who said that. How can you accuse when you just did it? Ck- I was laughing my ass off to last night. I couldn't get enough of it...LOL. The guy must not be HOT because he's always in here commenting on the both us so to me it seems like he can't get a lady. Oh yeah now he is starting to reply back to himself too... how funny is that LOL

neil- I'm with you on that one.

Hi QS- That is horrible when people do that to their own kids or anyone. But I hope you will have a real good day.

OH NO! TLC the insecure, emotionally fragile and labile liar thinks that I'm not HOT!! OH NO SAY IT ISN"T SO! Somebody I never met who is almost as dumb as NEil thinks that I am not hot and can't get a lady!!!! Do ya really think that I am that stupid that a comment like that will bother me? Besides, I like dudes. Now go move aliong and create some more imaginary friends to talk to. LOOOSSSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The way you hang on my every word, I bet you'd like to snap my griddle off!!! Not that you'd even know what to do!!!! LOL Seriously.... this is all very flattering.... I don't think I've had this much attention since..... since.... since Charlie Manson. LOL

TLC: Sorry... looks like your love connection with CKTDB isn't going to workout afterall. LOL How about neil??? Did you read his description above? He sounds HOT!

Hmmmm.... CKTDB, you do sound slightly bothered - just not "HOT" and bothered!!!!! LOL

ck- Boo Hoo... and here I thought something positive was going to happen between me and what....LOL TS/cktdb- Yes I really think that you are stupid since you keep coming in here bothering us and also replying back to yourself... duh.

TLC LIES!!! DON"T TRUST HER OR DB CK/SUMMER"S EVE: You just answered for cktdb. Are you one and the same person?

ck- I love that one....hahahahahaha... Oh and yes neil sounds very sizzling HOT. Hey neil can you put a picture up of yourself in here?

TS/cktdb/BOUDICA- How many of your are there already??? Is there another ID coming up?

yes, bou.

tlc: my company is too high profile for a pix on this bs site. maybe we'll meet someday, ok girls?

I resent all these posts on multiple personalities.

ME TOO!

neil- Yeah I can understand that and with TS/cktdb/BOUDICA knowing now that he likes guys he might just come after you...LOL

I sound slightly bothered ck? OOOooohh....truth is, you have that douchy affect on me, what can I say?

Sharing time: Why do you post 3 or 4 messages in a row? Are you so impulsive that you can't confine your thoughts to one longer message? Just curious, you don't seem impulsive, a little obsessive maybe. And while your posts are exceedingly annoying, they are not "stream of consciousness" in manner. Perhaps...could it be...that I'm developing a crush???? Dare I say?

Oh yeah.... I think you want me in a b-a-a-a-d way, but my heart belongs to Charlie. LOL By the way, is YOUR "stream of consciousness" anwhere near the lake that QS is at today?????? And just why the heck are you "speaking" to me.... I thought you gave that up? LOL

See????? That's why I don't write long posts anymore.... I've got 3 good zingers in there, but since you can only read a few short words at a time, I had to dummy-down. hehehehe

ck, let's face it--ain't no brainiacs on this message board. I feel like Einstein here. While you are a douche bag majora, you are not particularly stupid. Cannot say that for most of the folks who post here. And though I am a lot of things--dumb is not one of them. In fact, I can write many words in a single sitting! AND you would not believe me if I told you that I published two books , would you? Not NYT bestsellers mind you, but publishable nonetheless.

Einstein???? Didn't you get the memo telling you NOT to drink the red Kool Aid???

Never got the memo. It must be a conspiracy! The people! The people!!

Anyway, While I consider myself intelligent, compared to the general population--probabaley not an "official" genius. BUT, on this board? I am beyond mensa!

hmmm.... "you are not particularly stupid." - Oh please.... stop trying to sweet talk me! LOL

CKTDB,,,,Will wonders never cease! You've taken a liking to CK! I'm happy about that. I do take issue however with your saying there are no brainiacs on this board except you! A truly intelligent person would never make an assessment like that before knowing the backgrounds and more in depth knowledge of every person who has posted here. I myself was a member of the National Honor Society and scored in the upper 3% of the nation on my ACT and SAT tests. How about you? I am well read and have a wide interest in a variety of topics from astronomy to quantum physics. How about you? There are publishing companies that are willing to publish anything, you simply pay them to do it! So your 2 books may not be impressive at all. What are the names of your 2 books? Can I run down to Barnes & Noble and find them on the shelf? If so, prove it by telling us the names of your books! Now I mean no disrepect to you, but you really look like an ignoramus calling other people stupid and branding yourself an Einstein! I have never seen you using big words and you misspell constantly. I highly doubt your qualifications to judge other people!!!!

"How To Use A Douche Bag For Dummies" and "How To Use A Douche Bag For Dummies the Sequel" LOL QS: You go girl! Hey... neil wants to meet us someday.

QS: I wouldn't consider "you are not particularly stupid" as taking a liking to! LOLOLO - Besides TLC has first dibs on this guy if he ever becomes bio-curious. (sorry neil) Catch any frogs?? Did you get any vibes from that lake?

HI CK! No pollywogs and no lake! The weather changed so fast I had to turn back and come home. But I did stop at one of my favorite restaurants and had a nice lunch. It is suppose to be stormy tomorrow but that's okay because I work tomorrow. We are in the monsoon season now and that is something I look forward to every year. They cool the day, and I love watching the thunderheads build over the mountain. From my backyard, I can sit outside and watch the lightning strikes on top of Sandia Crest in the distance. It is so beautiful!

Ok, Quiet Storm, fair enough, I was not referring to you in my sweeping generalization regrading the average intellect of posters on Rickey's site. Your posts do not seem particularly idiotic, I do admit. I was not bragging about the 2 books I penned--far from it! I was making the point regarding my attention span and stressing that I do possess the ability to focus on an entire literary piece as my crush...errrrr...ck, the db was inferring otherwise. My books would not be available on B&N--I WISH.... haha far from it. They are both text books--technical, boring to most folks--not to me. I wrote them as a compilation and am a credited author--but proceeds in total for each are less than $200K--which is not uncommon for this type of text. No royalties in text book publishing--even if there was--I couldn't retire on these books--far from it.

what a load of crap!

CKSASD,,,, I appreciate your becoming a little more humble! Welcome to the human race! So what subject are your books about? PS....you misspelled reguarding [regrading] LOL

Your posts do not seem particularly idiotic???? That's no way to make up CKTDB! I should know... since I'm not particularly stupid!

OOPS! I should have proof read! I misspelled the word too.... "regarding" is the right way. By the way CK, I about died laughing when you said he wants to snap your "griddle'' instead of "girdle" HAHAHAHAHA

QuietStorm: I love the way the sky looks just before a storm... the smell in the air..... we don't get monsoons. Aren't they dangerous?

"griddle" LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Ohmygod.... too funny.

CK as I heard the explanation once on the local weather channel, at this time of the year we get our storms coming in mostly from moisture building from the Pacific and coming in from the Baja and the southerly winds and that is why it is a common term here to refer to it as the monsoon season. It's not as much rain as a jungle gets. And tornadoes are rare in Albuquerque, they usually form on the east side of the mountain once they hit the plains.

Did everyone go to bed? Anyone out there?

quietstorm, i just got home in loveladies; late meeting, bad weather and long drive.

i'm beat, tough day. goodnight.

HI NEIL! I'm glad you arrived safely! Is there alot of traffic along that route to deal with? Are you just there for the weekend? I would also love to know what your interests are besides computers. Any hobbies?

NEIL,,,OKAY! Maybe we can talk tomorrow. Sweet dreams!

Good morning everyone! There was a bad thunder storm here last night. We lost the power for hours! I could have used one of the torches Nie uses at night! However, it was kinda fun.... the sun is out and soooo beautiful and bright this morning.... but it is suppose to rain again tonight. neil must have hit the same storm on his way home. i hate that long ride to to lbi area. QS: I love the mountains - especially with a setting sun as a drop back.

Good Morning CK! Are you feeling rested and ready for this brand new day? I got to bed around 2am or so, and woke up at 6:30 this morning. My mind feels wide awake, but my body is saying "Why are you doing this to me?" I will be working today from 10am to 4pm. It will be a non stress day so I don't mind. Still my body is telling me to go back to bed! What do you have planned for the day?

neil: I use to go to Mass in loveladies - but I can't remember the name of the church. So are you in one of those big houses ON beach? You don't live in that big pyramid house, do you?

QuietStorm: I've got a lot of running around this morning. But I do hope to find some quality time for enjoying the outdoors. Maybe later tonight I can find someone to "snap my griddle". LOL My son is planning on going to a local carnival tonight, so I hope it doesn't pour again since tonight is the last night. I use to work a lot of OT on Saturdays, but we're not as busy anymore.... The extra $$$$ in nice. So what type of work do you do now? Still in the sound business at all? Have a good day!

HI CK! So you're hoping for some action tonight! LOL I am currently the property of a temp agency, and they got me a job helping out the FCC with this digital conversion thing. I really like it and the pay isn't bad. I'm looking for full time work though, and hoping this will lead to something good in that direction. If not, I've worked for doctors before so I can go back to the medical field, but I would prefer something new and different. Well it's time to get ready so I'll talk to you later. Have a great day!

ck - st. claires is the church. the pryamid house was gone long before i moved here. there's a big resort now. i don't live on the beach; i'm on the peninsula. you should come down for mass one weekend. quietstorm - work keeps me busy but when i can i go boating or sailing, deep sea fishing or take a run along the beach. it's quiet here most of the time so i can relax. unfortunately, i host several parties for my clients during this season so it can get hectic at my hideaway with sleepover guests. it's more like work but it goes with the territory of owning a company. have a good day.

HI NEIL!...I hope this is a weekend you don't have to host one of those parties, so you can relax and release any stress you may be feeling. I know owning and running a business is constant brain overload. It can take a toll on you in all kinds of different ways. Do you hear that Christopher Cross song playing in your head when you're sailing? I bet you do, it is such a perfect song for that feeling! One more question.....have you ever hooked a marlin? I hear that is such a rush!

no sailing today. no relaxing either. my children arrived mid-afternoon. they're down for the night. how was work? no tlc or ck?

Neil.... What ages are you dealing with? I hope there isn't a terrible two year old among them. We know their favorite word is "NO". I'm on easy street. My one and only child is 24, and we get along well. He has always been a joy to have. Do I take it right that you're divorced? If so, I hope the two of you are still friends...that makes it so much easier. I was lucky enough to have that.

Where are you TLC? Ck...Did you go to the carnival with your son? Find anyone to snap your griddle?! LOL

quietstorm, no easy street. two and five. divorced but mostly friendly. she was pissed i worked last night and couldn't pick the kids earlier. she had made plans with friends. this morning she called and said it would be ok to send the car for them. it could be worse. i hear little feet. later.

Enjoy them.....they grow way too fast!

thanks. are you married?

I haven't been married since 1989. I love the concept of marriage, but I'm scared to death to try it again because I learned a big lesson...people change!

Do you think you will give marriage another try someday?

yeah. or even worse they don't change and become stagnant.

i'd get married again for the right reasons.

After my divorce, I went 4 years without dating or going out, I just wanted to stay home after work and be a good mom. Finally my gal friends at work more or less dragged me to a local pub on a friday for happy hour. I met a guy I fell deeply in love with and he loved me and started talking about marriage. I wanted to marry him but never pushed, I wanted him to lead the way. His ex-girlfriend he had dated for 10 years prior found out about us and suddenly decided she wanted him back. He was torn. He decided to give her one more chance. He broke up with me for 3 weeks, but then started calling me and told me they were fighting again as they always did. So we started to see each other again even though he had moved in with her. One night they got in a horrible fight. He threatened to kill himself and she told him "Well why don't you be a man and do it" So he did, he put a Russian assault rifle in his mouth and killed himself. I had only known him just short of a year. I would have married him in a heartbeat. Since then, I haven't found anyone that feels right.

My dearest QuietStorm: Sorry that I wasn't here last night to be of some moral support after opening your heart to us. It's 5:30 am and I am utterly lost for words regarding your last post. What a devastating and inconsolable tragedy to have lived through! Any loss is not easy, but this? You are an incredibly strong, bright and positive person with such a brilliant aura that even shines through your comments here. Love will come again when you least expect it.

Good Morning CK! Thank you so much for your kind and understanding words. It has been a long and painful road to get to where I am, as I felt guilt for not finding magic words or a way to have saved him from that. After all, I was one of the last major people in his life and I always believe God provides a way, and I didn't find it. It has now been 15 years and alot of healing has occurred. I know he is responsible for his actions. I'm kind of regretting bringing this up, I don't like bringing other people down with my sad stories. Sorry! I don't go looking for men, I put my future and fate in God's hands. So how was your day? Did you go to the carnival?

Hi QS ck neil and everyone else- Sorry for not being here yesterday but a busy day at my sister's house again. Plus I developed a sore throat so it's dragging me down right now. QS- I'm so sorry about your loss and please don't ever regret opening up to someone. I've lost a lot of loved one's but not exactly the same way as you did but the feelings are mutual. But you are such a sweet wonderful person and there is a man out there that is looking for someone just like you. I know he's going to find you one of these days. ck- I hope the weather by you held up and your son got to enjoy himself at the carnival. I'm still a kid at heart when it comes to carnivals. neil- You sound like you are a very very busy man. Need to try to slow down and take a breathe or two. Hope you all have a great day!!!

Sorry I told you that story Neil, I should have kept that to myself. I hope it didn't ruin your evening with your kids.

Thank you TLC! I appreciate your kind words. We all miss you when you're not around, especially your light hearted humor. I miss your little bunny picture. How are they doing?

QS- First of all you have to stop opolozing for sharing your feelings with us as we don't mind you doing it. We all have to let loose sometimes. My bunnies are doing fine. One of my bunnies named Princess is a little slob...lol... she poops all over herself somehow so last night I had to give her a bath even though I wasn't feeling well. My husband felt sorry for her as I did too so I showed him how to give her a bath next time she needed it again. But she is still precious to me and she's always licking my face or hand.

quietstorm - i didn't bail on you last night. there was an emergency at work. you didn't ruin anything. sorry for your loss.

Neil....thank you. Is everything okay? Are your kids still with you? How are you doing?

TLC.... I had a pet rabbit I adopted from the animal shelter where I worked in Denver. He was black and white, big and beautiful! I named him Jack! He would get so happy when I let him out of his cage to run around my apartment. He would jump and even do back flips! I only got to have him for 2 years. He got sick so I took him to the vet and after a week of trying to save him, the vet called with the bad news...he died. Some kind of rabbit virus. I wrapped him in a towel and took him up to the mountains. I found a mountain side where I spotted another rabbit running around, and that was an obvious sign to me of where I should bury him. I believe very much that animals have a spirit like we do. I wouldn't want to go to a heaven where there are no animals. John Edwards the psychic is always describing pets that have passed over to the other side.

QS- Awwwww... that put some tears in my eye's. What a awesome place to bury your little friend. When I was still married to my ex we had a floppy eared rabbit named thumper and bought him when he was 6 wks. old... very adorable! After I moved out of the house several months later he died so my ex buried him in the backyard. When I heard about his passing I started to cry. You do get attached to those little furry creatures, don't you. I love watching John Edwards but most of the time I can't remember what channel or day he is on. He is so good in what he does. I always wanted to be in his show so he can do a reading on me. I'm curious to find out how my older sister died.

Bunny stories???? We had this big white bunny for years named Dandy! He spent most of the summer outdoors, but come winter he had the run of the basement. Would you believe he was paper trained???? So.... did you think I ran off with the carnival? Nope, I didn't go. My kid would be motified to go to a "LOCAL" carnival with me. HOHOHO I'm not feeling that good today or yesterday. I'm kinda resting. Catch you all later!

TLC...Is John still on the air? I haven't seen any listings for him. His readings were always astounding to the people he read. Even describing things and layouts in their home that he couldn't have known about. I would love a reading by him or James Praugh [not sure if I spelled his last name right ]. What happened to your sister?

HI CK! I hope you get to feeling better. Take good care of yourself! Talk to us when you feel up to it. Also, I left a message for NIE and JC to come over to this site from the other one. I think it's time we can leave the other site behind.

ck- Did you catch my sore throat since you aren't feeling that good either. Hope you get better soon! QS- I don't know if John is on air still. You know when summer comes all the good shows are off the air until the cold months come. But I don't mind because I'm always outside in the summer time, HATE the cold. I'm not sure if I know a James Praugh that does readings also. I'll have to catch that one if I ever see his name. My older sister died in 1998. To make a long story short she needed a heart transplant because she use to take so many drugs in the past plus taking her high blood pressure pills while she was drunk was a big no no. It started off with both her feet being swelled up and my other sister convinced her to go to the doctor for a check up. She did and ended up in the hospital the same day because they said that she has had a few heart attacks and also needed a 3 by pass surgery which she did have a week later. After surgery she went home and had a nurse coming in to check on her and ended up in the hospital again because her high blood pressure went up and they discovered that she needed a heart transplant. So from then on she was just laying around in the hospital waiting for a transplant and on a Friday died. We called the hospital asking what happened and they said that she had a few heart attacks that killed. My sister and I were in shock and disbelief of what happened. It was a very sad and difficult time for us. When Fridays came I couldn't bare being at home because my older sister called me on the phone in the evenings for years. It was so hard being at home and not getting a phone call from her anymore. I hated life so much back then and I still do sometimes.

QS- Got my little bunnies back for you....

It sounds like she was just a very sick and unwell person. It's so hard to see someone you love declining in health day by day. Whatever happened,she suffers no more. And I bet John Edwards would tell you she is around you all the time, but especially on Friday evenings when you miss her most.

QS- I have a feeling that he would told me the same thing but it would of been nice to hear it from him, know what I mean? My other sister and I are just wondering if they did more to my older sister then they should of and maybe caused her early death. But I know I'll see her again and she will tell me all about it. Do you have any brother's or sister's?

QS- I'll be leaving to go to my sister's house now. Have a wonderful day and talk to you later. I hope I didn't bring you down with my sad stories!!!!!!!!!! Hi neil.

TLC... Go to Google and type in James Van Praagh, it will tell you all about him. I bet you will recognize him, he has been on numerous talk shows. I'm going to look up John Edwards on the web too and see what it says. In answer to your question, I have a sister 10yrs older than me who is now retired from teaching art and language living in Colorado. An older brother by 7 yrs. living in Alaska, he is a Viet Nam vet. And a younger brother by 4 years living here in Alb. NM. They are all still living. I feel closest with my sister.

Hi QS and TLC: I'm really not feeling much better but I just wanted to check in with you. TLC: My brother used drugs for over 25 years. He died 7 yrs. ago - not from an overdose but kidney and liver failure. Since he was in Maine, we attempted to make it there, but arrived about 2 hrs. after he already passed. We flew up rather than drove. It probably would have taken us about 8 hrs. to drive and up, and we would have been there before he passed. But my other brother said that he didn't think any of us would be in the condition to drive back home knowing that he was not expected to make it. Well... the night before, I had to pack for 3 people (mom, son and myself), sat and paid some bills because I wasn't sure when we actually would return home, made flight and hotel reservations, and arranged transportation. We finally get on the plane and it's delayed so there we sat on the runway - it was around 9:30am and I become very anxious and began to dig in my bag for a set of rosary beads I had thrown in there. Something in my head said "pray the rosary, pray the rosary." I starting to cry uncontrollably and convinced myself it was just a meltdown from the stress. When we finally arrived in Maine, my brother's girlfriend met us at the airport. Steve had died that morning at 9:30am. The grief of losing a sibling is so overwhelming. I have felt so disconnected ever since.

Someone I worked lost her mother and a couple of weeks later ended up getting tickets to John Edwards' show. She did not want to talk about it, but did say that he did not tell them anything that they were hoping for - I don't think he mentioned her mother at all. I never saw the televised episode either. I bet neil is sitting in bumper to bumper traffic if he's headed back to the NYC. Today was beautiful and I felt yuck! Oh well.... catch you later!

HI CK! I'm sorry to hear you still don't feel well. I hope you aren't battling something serious like cancer. Please tell us that isn't so. I finally watched that documented story of Farrah's battle with cancer and that was truly a brave battle she fought with that disease. I'm going to say a prayer for you and send you a positive vibe! So get ready to feel better! Take Care!

Have a safe trip home Neil if you're on the road headed back. We are all thinking of you and hoping everything is going well for you.

TLC...Thanks for putting up the bunnies, they are just so darn cute! I hope your day went the way you wanted it to. It was cloudy all day with a gentle rain coming down this morning. It felt very peaceful and quiet. I stayed home and caught up on some reading and watched a little TV. Right now I'm watching Ghost Adventures, these are new shows I haven't seen and they're catching some pretty creepy stuff on audio and visual. I have to give that Zac guy credit for being brave. He always insists on being locked in any haunted place they investigate. That thought alone would have me mortified.

QS-Yes my day went great at my sisters house thank you and the weather was beautiful and sunny but very windy. Even though your weather wasn't the best I hope you enjoyed your day as well reading and watching tv. Sometimes that's fun to do too. I googled James Van Praagh and I just don't recognize him. Is he better then John Edwards in your opinion? That's great that you and your sister are close having a relationship. I've learned that life is too short. I do also watch Ghost Adventure's and yes Zac has some guts most of the time. Once in awhile I noticed that if something happens he does freak out but he stays there without running. I like watching them better then I do Ghost Hunters, they are starting to bore me. CK- What is going on with you that you aren't feeling well still? I hope it's nothing serious. Thank you for opening up about your brother's death and I'm sorry that it ended that way. It is very hard to lose a loved one especially when you spend most of your life with them and then one day there aren't there anymore. I'm feeling tired today so guess I will hit the sack. Have a great night and will talk with you all later. Good Night.

My kid still watches those ghost shows! And I get their show names mixed up all the time - but I do know who Zac is. I kinda like the show that has the psychic, but doubt that the catholic church would allow them to have a priest at their disposal to perform "cleansings" on tv. Is the pet psychic still on? I only watched her a few times. Last summer, about 1 month after my mom died, I drove to town to pick up a movie rental and some Italian food. My son and I ate, and were getting ready to watch a movie when I had a stroke. Craig got me to the hospital (you have only 3 hours to get medicine) and we found out I have a large abnormal brain aneurysm behind my right eye with a blood clot. At first they wanted to operate and fix it. The surgeon said there was a 90% chance of success for a partial repair. Trying to be positive, I said to him that 90% sounded pretty good - but then he told me he doesn't really like to operate with a 10% risk factor and that I should prepare my son for the worse. I would probably hemorage to death in surgery. Because my son is still young, I decided not to have the surgery. I had another stroke and didn't even know it, found out through another MRI. I am very fortunate.... if you look at me you would never know and it has never affected my speech. But my left side is still weak and sometimes I suffer from physical fatique if I over do things. I can't lift things (like the laundry basket) or drive my "stick" shift car anymore or throwing change at the toll booth. Quick movement of my head makes me dizzy and wobbly. But I've been very lucky in so many ways and have been so blessed with so many helpful and good people. My parish made and brought dinner for my son and me 3x's a week for two months. We are lucky. I've had therapy and 2nd opinions from Columbia Presbyterian. I try not to think about this thing bursting in my head and try to keep positive. I don't want to talk about this anymore, ok??? Please...

neil: I can't believe that the pryamid house is no longer there! Nixon use to vacation there. It was this humongous black or dark brown pryamid on the beach with no windows - only a few sky lights on the sides and top. I guess the round house next to it must be gone. I use to take rides along that strip of beach just to see these houses!!

Yesterday, my son asked me...."So Mom, how do you feel about all these icons from your youth dying? Does it make you question your own immortality?"
Actually when someone dies very young and unecessarily like River Phoenix or Heath Ledger breaks my heart..... but Ed McMahon, Farrah, Michael Jackson and now Billy Mays the Oxi-man in like 1 week???

When I was in 4th or 5th grade we went to the NBC building and Ed McMahon was the tour guide! The best part of the tour was the old sound effects room. He showed us how they made horse's hoof sounds using coconuts!!
HOHOHO

ck- If I knew all this I would of never asked you what was going on with you since you aren't feeling well. I hope you will make a fast recovery and start to live a normal life. I couldn't believe about the oxy man dying, that was sad. So many people are dying this week and I start to wonder who is next now. Life is strange!

Good Morning CK! Hope you're feeling better! Sorry to hear what you're dealing with. Didn't mean to pry but I was concerned and wanted to understand what you're going through. Your son sounds very loving and outstanding. It seems like any channel I turn to is reviewing the life of Michael Jackson or Farrah. It will be better for everyone when this is over. That day I felt strange was the day they both died and looking back I feel sure that started my slide into feeling a little depressed. These people like Farrah and Michael are a part of our lives even if in just the most subtle of ways, and hearing of their loss is like a wake up call that we better not be taking our own lives for granted. Life can change or be taken away in a second. All life is so very fragile, so we better take every moment we are given to notice all the wonders and miracles and blessings that surround us, and to leave beauty and love behind us wherever we pass. That is how our own lives will truly mean something.

Good Morning TLC! How are you feeling this morning?

Good Morning Neil! Hope you're doing okay! We miss you!

NIE and JC! Where are you? It is peaceful over here now, so please join in! We miss you!

HELLO EVERYONE! QS - Thanks for directing me here! CK - Are you feeling better now?

Good Morning everyone! QS- No I still have the darn sore throat and starting to cough a lot now. What happened to neil since I don't see him that much here either lately?

Hi everyone! I feel a lot better today! Sometimes my pressure drops too low, but everything is good today. Thanks for asking and I don't think anyone is prying. I just try to keep postive and deal with it. TLC: Old home remedies are the best.... did you gargle with warm, SALT water???? QS: My son is pretty good - he has his moments. He is very smart but doesn't like to do his homework.... he was (and sometimes still is) very angry that I got sick and that I can't do everything I use to. In the beginning, I thought his anger was directed at me... but I think he became scared of the situation - it's just the two of us now. Nie: Are you up early today???? I know that JC is still out there. Later!!

ck- Thanx for the presciption but I tend to swallow things that I try to gargle...lol. I've been sucking on some lozenges and helps a little. Glad to hear that you are doing much better today. I do understand what your son is going through because when my mom was sick I was mad at the whole world not her.

TLC: Girl.... you are too much!!! But salt water does help. Try some tea and lots of Vitamin C!! Later!

ck- I'm still a kid at heart and don't like taking medicines or gargling....LOLolol.... The tea and lots of vitamin C sounds easier to me...Thank you.

My Little Margie (Gale Storm) died on Sunday. You can't get any news other than all of these deaths. I wonder what the government is up to? TLC: Did you re-marry?

With all this stuff on tv about Michael Jackson, I saw a clip of him announcing that his London would be the last there. I couldn't help but think that it wasn't him.... it didn't sound like his voice. Found the clip on youtube, and a couple of others commented that they didn't think it sounded like him either. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rddG5q46KJA

Nie: Your mother must have some home remedies for TLC..... Did you find a job yet?

HI CK! It seems like this day went fast. Don't forget The Bachelorette is on tonight. We get to find out who couldn't perform! I bet it's Reid LOL Talking about Michael Jackson, I bet he died of a drug overdose. There is alot of talk now about all the narcotics and drugs he was on. What a shame! I will be working Tues. and Wed. from Noon to 8pm just to let you know. So tonight I just plan to relax and watch some TV.

QS: I did forget about The Bachelorette, but I've programed it for taping to the DVR. Idol is repeating the Michael Jackson Week episode. Gotta go pick up my son at a friend's house. Have a good night - maybe later!

ck- That's so funny you asking Nie if her mother has any home remedies for me....LOL Now how sweet of you to worry about me! And yes I did re-marry to someone else. July 12 will be our 6 yrs. anniversary. I heard that Michael Jackson during the autopsy that they didn't find any food in his stomach but just pills. He was always skinny to me but this time he looked like he lost a lot more weight. I felt so sorry for him.

TLC: That's really nice that you found someone. Michael Jackson has not looked well for a long time. It's so sad.... QS: My dvr didn't tape the first two dates, Reid and Michael (I think). I'm sooo bummed. Maybe I can find it online - it's not posted as of yet. She must of really liked Edward a lot to keep him - I assume he left on his own???? I felt bad for the two that didn't get the rose...

Oh My God CK! I can't believe how stupid and naive Jillian is being concerning Wes. He is playing her like a fiddle! That pilot comes back and puts it right in her face that Wes has a girlfriend and she decides to ignore that! I wish the host would take her in a room and show her the footage of tape where Wes confesses to all the guys that he is there to further his career and isn't there for the girl. I wish I could reach inside my TV set and cuff her up side her head and tell her "WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!" Her time with Reid went really well with his family, and she seems to be growing closer to him. Edward willingly left the show because he was told by his boss he would be fired if he didn't come back to work. I think he would be good for her if she doesn't pick Reid.

CK - Haven't got any luck with getting a summer job yet. But I'm enjoying my summer and have started the summer reading! Am reading The 39 Steps by John Buchan at the moment. Lol I guess I don't really care for a job now. How does your plan go with "The Historian"? TLC - AHAHAHA having a daughter like me certainly helps! Just kidding... Do you have any kids?

Nie: I think that you should enjoy the summer with your family since you will be leaving soon. Do you have any more little trips planned with them? I haven't even made it to the library yet to pick up "The Historian". LOL But soon..... Right now I'm trying to figure out whether or not to continue to send my son to private school. He really wants to go back but it cost a lot of money. The public school is down the street from my house and I think he would have a better social life with kids from our town and more of an opportunity to play sports. The money I save from tuition could go for tutoring in math - cause he does need help in that subject. However, private school is more disciplined and I am more in touch with the teachers. Any thoughts?

I caught a clip of Jillian's visit with Reid. I'm confused since I thought he said he was nervous cause he hadn't been home for ages, yet he said his family is close and they have a family business???? Even if Wes were telling the truth about not using the show to promote his CD or that he doesn't have a girlfriend, Jillian should realize he's not right for her... did he say that his music was "everything" to him? I thought she wanted to settle down and have a family. I picture him out on the road and her sitting back home. I guess the romantic night with tears is another episode. I'm kinda sorry I didn't follow the show this year. Just how old is Jillian????? She looks like forty to me!

TLC: Feel any better today?

Good Morning everyone- I'm doing lousy today. I was up all night puking my head off and have a high fever of 102.1. Going back to bed right now and thanx for asking. Nie- you sound awesome and I wouldn't mind having another daughter. Yes I have a daughter who is in college going for her Ph'd in Biomedical Engineer... Soooooooo very proud of her!!! Later.

CK - I think the same :D But no more little trips... Schools are out early this year because of the swine flu which means the peak season for tourism has started already. No more cheap air tickets... Ummm I don't really know about the private schools and public schools in the US. For me, going to another school means new environment to get used to and new friends to make - not exactly what I enjoy doing. (Not that I don't like meeting new friends but I'd miss my old buddies so badly.) But the oppotunity to play sports sounds great. Lol I needed Maths tutoring too when I had my public exams... Maths isn't so friendly a subject... Lol I probably haven't given much help but perhaps it's more important to see what your son wants. Gonna finish Act 2 of Chess in Concert now :)

TLC - Lol you sound like an awesome Mom too! Wowww I'm sure you must be very proud of your daughter! I'm in college as well but only for MA. I wish to do a PhD too but four years seem such a long time. Mom said I should but I'm not so sure yet...

TLC: You can't be old enough to have a daughter in college!! I am shocked that both you and QuietStorm have grown children.... Ph'd in Biomedical Engineer? Very impressive! What are her future plans? Maybe she she can explain what neil meant by "bio-curious"? LOL (sorry neil, I know it was just a typo) I had my son really late in life... he could be my grandson! LOL Nie: He already knows most of the kids at the public school. But besides that, he's never been afraid of going some place new with people he doesn't know - like summer camps, other schools, etc. He's really good like that. I've only seen bits and pieces of Chess....

Nie: I couldn't wait to get out of school until my junior and senior year. Then I fell in love with college!!! One of my supervisors (from a part-time job I had) told me that her husband was a "professional student" - his company paid him a salary to go to school on a full-time basis. His job was basically to learn and bring the information to his company if and when they asked for it. I always thought that would be cool....

TLC: Have you been to the doctor????? Throwing up and fever is a symptom of swine flu! PLEASE, PLEASE make an appointment immediately!!!!

tlc, go to the doctor asap.

Hello everyone. Inluding CKTDB becuase you seem more controled :)

I think that we are all on very different schedules today....

CK- ya I've noticed that.....

Neil! Happy to hear from you! At least we all know now you are still alive and kickin! Is everything going okay for you? We haven't heard anything lately from your nemesis, was that worm thing for real or a fake out?

JC! Great to hear from you! Watcha been doin? Can you believe all these people dying on us. Can you have a little chat with the Holy One and ask him to cut it out for awhile!

TLC....I am worried about you too so get it checked out. Hey CK, I can't remember how old Jillian is, I'm thinking in her thirties. I think the remaining shows are going to be really good and full of surprises. As for the private school thing, I would say take a hard look at your finances and decide if you can still pay for private or not. Start there, Then weigh the pros and cons...write it down on paper, there is something about seeing it in front of you that might help bring clarity of mind on what to do. Then it's time for the heart to heart talk with your son for the final decision. I hope that helps. By then the decision should be evident.

Comedian and impersonator Fred Travalena also died. You know, they didn't have any big coverage of Farrah's funeral - just a small clip on the evening news. There is just constant coverage of Michael Jackson and some of it is turning ugly. QS: Thanks for the advice. Jillian looked very old to me on the last show. Most of the guys look younger - are they all younger than her? There are a couple of new shows I've taped but haven't watched yet - "Nurse Jackie" and "Hung" - I save stuff for rainy afternoons on the weekend. I heard Incubus yesterday on the new station I found. Our government is not only trying to eliminate talk radio, they're going to try and get rid of "free music" radio - so we can all pay taxes on it! You're working late again tonight, right. I'll try to get back when I thinks you'll be around.

TLC: I think we are all very concerned and you need to have this checked out. Let us know how you are. JC: Are you still in school and/or working? Any more camping trips planned for the summer?

I am back. I know you were all concerned. Don't worry--I will post more later later. I was busy traveling for work, besides they monitor our internet use. Wouldn't want "Rickey.Org" rumors to get around the office.ck, my favorite douche, you are still in my forethoughts and afterthoughts.....dare I say...could it be???

Good Morning CK! I meant to tell you I bought the new Incubus cd "Monuments and Melodies". It is a 2 disc set. The 1rst disc has all 3 of my favorites "Black Heart Inertia", "Drive", and "Love Hurts". Needless to say I've been playing it over and over. Yesterday I finally took it out and put the other disc in so I could hear it on my way home. I have only heard a couple of songs on the 2nd disc so I don't know yet if I like the 2nd one, but I sure like the 1rst one. And yes I work again today. I should be home by 10:30 pm your time. I always look forward to turning on my laptop to check everyone's latest posts.

I was beginning to think the worm gotcha! What state do you live in?

QS- well actually my father took a two day vacation, and the "not-so-holy-one" managed to take over his replacements and went on a rampage and the constant rain and storms and over hotness in multiple places has been a result of my father's anger at the "less-holy-one" CK- I am working right now, but I am going to go back to school and yes, I am going up to Ontario and Quebec so I am excited for that.

CK- if you are going to ask me what I do for a living, I am working part-time as a social worker

Good Morning JC! I have always wanted to visit Canada, it looks so beautiful. How long do you get to visit there?

JC: That must be fulfilling and yet heartbreaking at times. It doesn't seem like the type of job that you can turn off at the end of the day. But from your posts, you seem to be well-balanced and suited for this profession. Who do you think should get Michael Jackson's kids? I guess you'll be hanging with your cousins in Canada. Did you see the show on Discovery where these scientists were injecting chicken eggs with a protein to produce a recessive gene (scales) from their dinosaur ancestors?

JC: I loved the changing of the Guard in Ottawa. Do they still have that? The day I went it had to be 90 degrees. The guards were dropping like flies from the heat on the lawn! NIE: So after all of your travels, where do you think you'll end up living?? Norway?

HI CK....Interesting question about the Jackson kids. I heard the Jacksons asked for control of the kids inheritance, and that just raises a red flag in my mind. I like Mrs.Jackson but I sure don't trust or like Joe. I think greed is going to set in real quick. Not all of the Jackson siblings are rich or even close to it. They had a report on The Today show and at least several of Michael's siblings have very ordinary and not so great paying jobs. Debbie Rowe seems very stable, logical, and sane, yet I don't pick up a mother vibe about her what so ever. For that reason I have to hope those kids will be surrounded with lots of love by the Jackson clan. I understand Michaels will has money in trust for them. I just hope that is iron clad so no one else can get their hands on it. Well time for work, gotta go! Talk to you later!

QS: There is so much discussion about him not being the biological father - which I seriously doubt he is. And if he never legally adopted them, then what? There's talk that Debbie isn't even the biological mother - so how could she legally sign custody over to someone else? And if the children aren't in anyway legally his, could his bill collectors contest the will?? It's all so complicated... I feel so sorry for those kids. Have a good day at work. Catch you later!

Hi Everyone- I'm still alive and kicking but I felt like I was going to die yesterday. The fever just really drained me out and I stayed in bed all day long and didn't get up until today. My temp. is normal again (99.0) and my throat feels alot better too. I'm just a little weak from not eating much or moving around. ck- Sooooooo glad I didn't have the swine flu even though I haven't gone to the doctor for a checkup. That is one nasty virus to get and scary too. But thank you all for your concern on my health and now I have to take care of another sick puppy and that's my sister. She pulled a muscle on her back and can barely walk or move around. She just got herself a free puppy and can't take care of it right now so I'm going to help her as much as I can since I'm still a little weak. Have a great day and will talk to you later.

CK- yeah I'm going there for three weeks and I've actually never been to Ottawa so I don't know. No I didn't see that thing on discovery. I don't really know that much about Michael Jackson's kids, so I don't really have an opinion about that, I'm not much into reading tabloids and gossip magasines so I don't know much about star life but I liked his music. I have strange mixed emotions regarding his death becuase he was such a freak but at the same time, a brilliant artist. Have fun at work!

HELLO EVERYONE. Is the swine flu really so nasty over there? Here they don't even hospitalize you anymore if you get it because it's a mild virus. They just require you to stay at home. It's just like any other flu. But that's probably because there are too many confirmed cases now and they don't have so much space in the hospitals. TLC - I'm glad you're fine now! Have a big meal. CK - I'd love to be a "professional student" too!! Being a books critic isn't too bad either!

CKBLOADB- just wondering since you have come to be a somewhat regular here and not a nuissance anymore if you would change your name becuase it seems a bit strange to be refering to someone as "ck becoming less of a douche bag".... just a request from God

tlc - glad you are better. qs - been busy but then you know what that's about. ck - so did anyone snap your griddle this weekend?

Oh I forgot 1 thing! Welcome neil.... I don't think we've met :)

Only thing snapping my "griddle" this weekend were HOTcakes!!! LOL

hi jc. male or female?

Nie: Yes.... I could see you writing reviews. That would be the best of both worlds for you.... reading and a good critique! TLC: Your loverboy, ACE, got engaged. Did you see that on Rickey's home page? So sorry....

neil- turns out that jesus is a girl!

Another short post, folks! I only had time to stop in for a sec. I would change my name, but I'm afraid that ck would not like it. So, while you are the son of God, I think I will have to defer to "Quiet Storm", who seems reasonable and all-knowing. She is the only one who told me off in a very proper, honest, brutally frank, yet kind manner. So, QS, whatever you decide, I will do. I warn you that I will remain here, but if you find my usage "Docuhe bag" in my name to be, in any way, inflammatory, derisive, objectionable, odious, impertinent, insolent, repugnant, or highly offensive I shall from here on strike it from my pseudonym. Please kindly advise.

person with something in their name involving douche- I didn't mean to say that "douche" was the problem with your name, it's just that all your names seem to be very indirect and it doesn't felling like refering to a specific person and you wouldn't listen to your sweetie ck? Only to quietstorm? ck is going to be jealous.... And for refusing to listen to the son (daughter) of God, you will be eternallyy damned (jkjk).

JC: I don't do jealous or hate. It's not worth all the negative energy.

well, go strike "it" already, dude.

jc - girl is good, but no beard i hope.

Now Karl Malden died. What's going on here?

Karl Malden was exceedingly old. Farrah Fawcett was "older", but not elderly by any barometer. Jackson, relatively young....and McMann old. I think Karll Malden was "Willard Scott" type of old, I'm thinking he must have been in his late 90's.

And I miss Summer's Eve. Where oh where did she go?

JC, Shall I just rename myself "Douche"? And what would ck think? I feel she will be hurt. I like posting several messages in a row. It's fun.

i doubt it douche.

neil, oh retarded one, I was not speaking to you :)

I think you should name yourself douche. Pogo may be offended, but I think it is suiting. The oh holy one approves :)

You hit an all time low with your insensitive reference toward the differently-abled. Go take a time out and think about it..... it's wrong on soooo many different levels.

jc - a rose is a rose by any other name.

Hi Friends! I hope your day went as well as mine. This is my Friday night as I have the next 2 days off. In my opinion Douche, it would be nice if you chose a name that reflected who you are instead of who you perceived someone else to be. Also, something short like "BOB" or 2 initials would be appreciated by all of us I'm sure. Well, enough said about that. So, is anybody around to talk right now?

Oh no...not that person back again!!! It was so nice and quiet and here we go again. Hey why don't you try Bazooka, I won't mind...LOL And leave neil and ck alone cause they are our friends, HI neil. ck- yes I read about Ace being engaged and that's okay with me. For someone who is as nice as he is should have a happy life with someone that he loves and is loved back.

Hi TLC.....Are you feeling better as you go along now? What kind of puppy are you caring for?

Hi QS- I'm feeling sooooooooo much pappier( is that a word) lol... feeling much much better thank you. My sister got a pekignese scottich terrier and she is only 10 wks. old. What a little terror she's become since we have to train her to do her business else where. But she is adorable. Nice to hear that today is your Friday.

TLC she must be really cute! What's her name? Be sure to hide any shoes that you don't want chewed up!

QS- My sister named her Samantha and with the shoes it's too late... lol... she got to that already and everything else. And you can't mop the floors with her trying to grab it away from you...lol. It was fun for awhile but she tires you out fast.

ck- You asked what bio-curious was and I googled it and this is what it said- Biocurious is a weblog about biology (and physics, grad school, and miscellenaeous other things!) through the eyes of physicists. :)

At least you are just dealing with one puppy! My three house dogs like to fill their mouth with kibbles and then walk off with the food, dropping it all over the place. Sometimes I think that when I get to the gates of heaven and get asked the question "What did you do with your life?'' I will have to say " I picked up kibbles".

That was so funny...lol... With just that little one around the house it seems like we have 3 dogs. She really is a handful. Need to ask you question about Michael Jackson- What did they mean about taking cement to Neverland? And also I read that some people think that he faked his death like Elvis Presley did ( which I didn't believe) just to hide from the public.

I have no idea what that means. What I did hear is that fans would like him buried at his ranch "Neverland", and have it turned into a tourist destination like Elvis Presley's "Graceland". The news reported that it would be against the law and ordinances for him to be buried there. However,if they cremated him first, then he could be buried or entombed there.

Hi TLC: Oh the joys of housetraining...... Is your yard fenced in for that pup? Glad you're feeling better. We missed you. QS: How was work? Do you work from the office or are you in the field? I heard Michael Jackson might have wanted to reduce the number of tour dates (think it was only suppose to have been about 10 shows), so he wanted to be rushed to the emergency room in order to get out of so many shows. There are going to be a lot of stories. People have claimed to see his image in clouds.

I don't see why he can't be buried there since Elvis was at his home. I guess maybe because he ran out of money to pay the bills for the property. They said that on Michaels will that he wanted to be cremated and have his ashes spread in the moon but they said that they couldn't fullfill his wish becuase he didn't have the money to pay for that. The cement part I read in Rickey's homepage but it's not there anymore, it was just a headline there.

Good Lord! The next thing you know, people will be seeing the image of Michael Jackson on potato chips and flour tortillas!

Remember all the Elvis sightings???? They'll be next. The zoning laws won't allow him to be buried at Neverland unless he's cremated. Besides, didn't he say he never wanted to go back there. I would have liked to see some of Farrah's funeral.

TLC: Go to the bottom of the home page and click on NEXT page until your story comes up. It should be on the following page. Well.... I am actually getting tired now.... so good-nite.

I don't think Michael would want to be buried there. When the police invaded his home and went through everything he owned, it was the ultimate violation, just like a rape. From what I understand and have heard, I don't think his family wants him there either. However, it would certainly be a money maker and if Joe thinks about it,he would probably want it to happen. He is greedy. It will be interesting to see where they put him.

tlc glad you're better. quietstorm how was work? too bad you missed the excitement here. i think nie is gone.

i'm headed back down to loveladies tomorrow afternoon. so i probably won't talk to you until i return to nyc. have a good 4th.

Have a safe trip Neil! Hope your weekend is all that you want it to be. If you have a chance to say "Hi", we are here for you. Take Care and We'll Miss You!

it won't be, but thanks. you too.

ck--"retarded" is a medical term. "retard" would have been offensive. I would never use that term. People have shed the term "retarded" from their personal lexicon for "mentally handicapped" or "developmentally delayed". But the word retarded is not negative unless you truly are poking fun at someone who is mentally retarded. The societal evolution of the term does not necessarily conflate with it's origin. I am sure you will disagree with me anyway, ck, and stick up for obnoxious, ignorant neil because you seem to view everything in terms of how it affects you and you cannot handle when people disagree with you. Funny, ck, how "douche bag" is not offensive to women but "retarded" is offensive to retarded people???? QS--I will take your advice and seek a more meaningful name. JC--thanks for your name input--but I think "douche" is no longer truly defining me!

Oh, TLC, I see you are back too. Are your returning as TLC or Bazooka or both? Will you continue to have conversations with yourself to bolster your own argument and then be untruthful to others on this board by pretending that you had to change names to protect yourself....... and then when people look back they will realize that, clearly, that is not the case? Just curious. And anyone who is reading this...don't give me a hard time. As you can see from up above, TLC addressed me and insulted me without provocation.

QS: I agree with you. Michael's father is greedy and I would not doubt if he want sot create a "Neverland" ala' "Graceland". I findit sad that this sensitive, pathetic, tortured soul had to endure this upbringing with is relentless stage father. It is no wonder that he suffered from body and facial dismorphia, as well as many other maladies. While it may seem cruel to say, I don't see his father as mourning--the comments he made to the media are indeed troubling, to say the least. It is sad that this talented being had to suffer so much in his relatively short life.

I'M OUT OF HERE... SO MANY OTHER FORUMS TO GO TO AND TS/TBD, but not "douche" HAS TO PICK THIS ONE TO COME TO. IT WAS NICE TALKING TO ALL OF YOU AND HAVE A GREAT LIFE.

Why does everyone call me TS? I have no idea who the heel TS is. I assure you, I am not TS and the accusation of such makes you look paranoid. Please feel free to do the following: re-post (cut/paste) all messages by TS here and see if there ae any similarites. Check our ip addresses and see if they match. I have granted you permission. While this may sound immature of me to say, TLC..."you started it". I vowed not to write anything about you upon my return. You posted something unkind and insulting about me in an inflammatory manner. This tactic of yours to get everyone angry at me may work (I find it to be emotionally manipulative)--they will tell me off and beg you to come back, yadda yadda yadda. I expect you to reemerge as someone else--that is the course of these boards. Goodbye....... I shall remain here whether or not the bullies (or the manipulators) try to scare me away.

TBD: This is still clearly all about Adam, isn't it? Throughout all of Rickey's polls you have continually attacked anyone who disagreed with YOU (especially Danny fans). You have been particularly rude to TLC, Grimoire13 and myself, and now neil - why???? - because you've made it your personal goal to make anyone who's opinion differs from yours leave this blog.... we're the only ones who didn't leave. You could have joined us, but you chose to continue with your cruel remarks and personal attacks. Do you think QuietStorm and JC will eventually turn on us over your false flattery? Do you know how transparent your "butt kissing" is - see the other poll, obviously JC wasn't buying it when you posted as Jan. TLC wouldn't hurt a fly. neil is just Grrrrr (as QS says). Get over it - we have.

ck, the one who is transparent is you, my dear. Butt kissing? QS and JC are very normal and inclusive and have no agendas. Whether or not they approve of me or like me is irrelevent to me. Butt kissing? seriously? A little projection, ck? This is all about Adam?? Why? When? Where? I never posted anything to Grimoire 13 (you) EVER. I never had a conversation on this site with that particular pseudonym. I have been lurking on this board for a while. Just lurking. I am not stupid, please do not treat me as if I am. Regarding Adam Lambert: Yes, I am a fan. But you claim I attack Danny Fans? NO. I am a huge Danny fan! I was hoping for a Danny/Adam finale. That would have been grand. You see, Grim reaper, I do not support a contestant based on religious views, personality, looks, sexual preference, or any other criteria other than singing ability. I do not hate Adam or Danny like many others do. ck, I believe it to be apparent and widely accepted that you are the one who cannot handle differing opinions--you did not like that I pointed this out in my previous post to TLC.. Be more open minded please. neil was very insulting and offensive toward me and has earned my disrespect. ck and Grimoire 13 have been the queens of personal attacks. Check out this board, my dear. You have attacked many newcomers here. Yes, you have your adherents, but you also have your detractors. King H left because he felt attacked by you, if I remember correctly. As Michael Jackson would say, ck: "Start with the man in the mirror...."

"throughout all of Rickey's polls..." WTF? I posted on 2 polls, ck.... this one and the Idol tour one. I will engage you no more, lady. But, don't worry...I'm staying here.

TLC: For the first time TBD is correct.... I WILL BEG YOU TO STAY TLC - please don't let this jerk make you leave - that's what he wants you to do. We would miss you and it wouldn't be the same if anyone left. Afterall you are the "young, playful heart" of this group, JC the "soul and conscience", QS the "intelligent, sexy chick", neil the "brainy hunk", Nie is "a worldy wise muse" and I'm "not particularly stupid" LOL.

ck, and I suck up? LOL! You will stop at nothing. I hope she does stay.

Hmmmm.... "Busy travelling for work"??? I assume you meant the men in white coats were transporting you to Bellevue Psychiatric Hospital? LOL!!!!!

Don't "address: me or "undress" me in your wacko little mind. LOL

no you don't "suck up", you just suck.

You excite me TBD. Tell me more about yourself.

So, it appears that the ignorant neil is in Middle school. Oooooooohhh...neil "sticks and stones..." Ouch--wow--that hurt! Get an education please before you try to converse with me or I will have to request subtitles in order to decipher your text.

ck, hmmmm.. wouldn't you think someone who posts under different names---say "Grimoire"--as you do and who runs over to "ameridol updates" and posts horrific hate-bashing and bigoted comments must be in need of mental health attention? Does everyone here know about the awful, personal and hateful attacks you posted about Adam Lambert on that site? Did you post them there so Adam fans, such as QS, would not know the true you? Check it our everyone--they are still there to be read. At least I can hold a job down, unlike you. Have you had that medical clearance yet? Phony baloney. You can keep shoveling it, I ain't buying it. Try a different tact. Maybe sympathy??

Don't undress neil either! LOL

I was gone for a few days and then returned. I came in peace. I posted about my work trip. Then posted about Michael Jackson and few other innocuous blurbs. I was attacked by TLC, then Neil, then ck. Obviously, everyone here wants the drama and the anger. I am staying and I tried to change my tact, yet I was met with obstruction. ck does not want me here because she knows I am on to her. She knows I can discredit her. I was going to stop until she became her spiteful self. However, I will, in the spirit of Jesus, make another attempt at civility. ck, truce?

IS THIS YOUR DEFINITION OF PEACE AND CIVILITY?????..... I am back. I know you were all concerned. Don't worry--I will post more later later. I was busy traveling for work, besides they monitor our internet use. Wouldn't want "Rickey.Org" rumors to get around the office.ck, my favorite douche, you are still in my forethoughts and afterthoughts.....dare I say...could it be???..........Another short post, folks! I only had time to stop in for a sec. I would change my name, but I'm afraid that ck would not like it. So, while you are the son of God, I think I will have to defer to "Quiet Storm", who seems reasonable and all-knowing. She is the only one who told me off in a very proper, honest, brutally frank, yet kind manner. So, QS, whatever you decide, I will do. I warn you that I will remain here, but if you find my usage "Docuhe bag" in my name to be, in any way, inflammatory, derisive, objectionable, odious, impertinent, insolent, repugnant, or highly offensive I shall from here on strike it from my pseudonym. Please kindly advise...... JC, Shall I just rename myself "Douche"? And what would ck think? I feel she will be hurt. I like posting several messages in a row. It's fun..... SINCE YOUR RETURN, I CHOSE TO IGNORE ALL OF YOUR REFERENCES TO ME, AND ONLY RESPONDED TO YOU WHEN YOU MADE A SLUR AGAINST THE DIFFERENTLY-ABLED. EVEN THEN, ALL I TOLD YOU WAS TO THINK ABOUT HOW WRONG IT WAS. THEN YOU ATTACKED TLC AND NEIL. The only person you discredit, is yourself.

You are becoming angry CK, just like Grim. I'm baaaaaaaaaaccck.

Love, anger, hate and jealousy are such strong emotions to waste on someone I could care less about..... don't flatter yourself, TBD. LOL Besides, INDIFFERENCE is my weapon of choice, which is what's really bugging you. hehehehehehehehehehehehe

QuietStorm: Does that mean you have to work on Saturday? That stinks. We're off on Friday so it's a long weekend. My son love the Ramones and he's been bugging me to take him to Joey's grave! LOL The cemetary isn't too far from here, just hard to find once you get inside the grounds. Saturday we're going upstate NY to my family in Carmel. It'll be nice since I haven't seen them in awhile. There should be a big crowd - it's my cousin's birthday. However, I do wish it were another weekend... We usually go to a Fourth of July Celebration in Hackensack. They have a couple of famous "oldie bands", fireworks and street fair. While "doo wop" is not my thing, it's a lot of fun! and FREE.

Nie: Do you have your own celebration of independence in HK?

ck - that sounds like fun. i'm stuck in traffic right now. we should have left earlier.

tlc - i still think ur just too cute.

HI CK! I have to say it took a little while to catch up on the latest posts from where I left off last night. It seems like two steps forward, one step back! I have to give TBD a little credit here. I believe him when he says he intended to join in and stop the attacks. Left over hurt from TLC surfaced in some comments from her that have made TBD react in a defensive way, which in turn means his usual ways. Sorry TLC, I understand how you felt and you have every right to say it, but it did fan the flames again. Somebody here needs to be the hero and take the high road! TBD, I"m calling on you to be that person. Turn the other cheek and show us your opinions and thoughts on the kinder side of you! I hope the rest of us are also big enough to give this another chance! And TLC...don't leave...you are loved and valued and would be missed more than you would ever know....you are part of this circle of friends!

HI NEIL! You mentioned "we". Are you taking some friends with you?

CK...How long of a drive do you have ahead of you? I have to work on Saturday from 10am to 4pm so that isn't too bad. They set off major fireworks about a mile away from my house. I usually sit in a lawn chair and watch them from my front yard. I don't mind small crowds of people, but I'm not fond of huge gatherings, so I usually just stay home. The mountains and lakes will be full of people as well. I prefer to go on weekdays when I can find the peace and solitude I enjoy most. While I enjoy my friends and being around people, there is another side of me that requires alone time. That is when I find peace and a connection to nature, which is my God. I do believe in a higher intelligence and a connection to all living things that is miraculous and divine and beyond mere coincidence. I feel certain that the more we open ourselves to possibilities...the more the veil is lifted and we are shown what we cannot see through our ordinary thoughts and lives.

I may have believed his sincerity had he not mentioned me by name and the word douche in his great "come back post" and all the others to follow. I did my best to ignore all of these comments and taunts, and only commented on his undeserving comment on the differently-abled. But it is still a free country, and he can post wherever he wants. Sorry you have to work Saturday. But I'm sure you'll enjoy the fireworks and the beautiful view. I'm not one to usually go off to big crowded events either. I still do certain activities because of my kid - you know making special memories and sharing experiences while he still wants to - those days will all too soon be lost forever... some of them already are. Our trip upstate is about 1 1/2 to 2 hrs without traffic. yuk! Just curious - Since you like Ghost Hunters, do you also like shows like Storm Chaser????

quietstorm; not all necessarily friends though some are my closest. i'm hosting a weekend for my top executives and their families this weekend. a few people are riding down with me. food, music, fireworks, games and events for the kids. but not my kids since their mother decided to take them to disney. it's called punishment for being late last week. enjoy yourself.

tbd 冲洗袋

CKTDB - WHY YOU IGNORE ME? I THINK YOU SMART. I FOLLOW YOU. WHY YOU MEAN TO ME?

CK... I know you are doing your best and it's hard not to jab back when someone does it to you. I just try to keep my thoughts on the bigger and more important picture which is holding us together as friends and keeping the doors of communication open so others can join should they want to.This can also be a big learning lesson on how to be diplomatic and get along with others. I'm always open to learning. Change of topic...I grew up in tornado country, in northeast Colorado, out on the plains. Our house sat on a little hill on an otherwise flat landscape around us. Guess whose house got hit constantly with lightning! One time it came through the walls and outlets shooting sparks across the living room and catching the kitchen wall phone on fire. Thank God we were home or our house would have burned down. Another time hail the size of golf balls and a little bigger and driven with at least a 25mph wind were breaking out all our windows and thundering so loud on the roof that I thought we were all going to die. I remember screaming and crawling into the little crawl space behind the washer and dryer. I saw at least 3 tornadoes and lots of funnel clouds threatening to become one. One of my dad's friends, who lived 3 miles from us was killed by a tornado. He was just turning into his driveway when it picked up his truck. We went over there and I remember seeing them pick him up in the field maybe 100 yards away from me, and I remember someone saying he was just like jelly, every bone in his body was broken. I do watch Storm Chasers every now and then. I love looking at clouds and am very thankful I now live in an area where they are rare.

Neil....return punishment with kindness and understanding. You don't want the kids caught in the middle. Sooner or later, she will respond to that tactic with more understanding and kindness coming back to you. I feel for you though, try to make the most of the situation, and above all, try to find a few minutes for yourself. :)

ck, you are indifferent toward me? HA! You cannot stand it! Try being indifferent, please. These posts to me on this poll are not yours and Grimorie 13's angriest posts. Not by a long shot--you can get really angry and really mean. You have been much angrier with others in your diatribes on other AI message boards as well. As far as using "douche" sine the term now offends you, well....you claimed it was not insulting and not offensive or degrading to women--so why would it bother you now? Would you like to retract those statements? .You are not so innocent as you come off. While I know your virtual "friends" will support you here, if anyone reads through my first return posts of today/yesterday on this poll, and then reads yours, TLC's and neil's responses--all of you are the ones picking on me. Before this started, neil was the first to call another innocent poster a "douche" and you defended his action, which was clearly uncalled for.

TBD....let it go...turn the other cheek and just let it go. You have a choice here, keep the pettiness going, or be a wiser and bigger person and just ...let it go.

Okay QS. I will extend the olive branch to everyone here--especially ck. I did try civility and I was met with hostility. Then I asked ck for a truce, and she responded angrily. But, this is the last negative post that I will compose unless otherwise provoked. This is my vow. If I disagree with a statement made by another here, I reserve the right to respectfully, but wholeheartedly disagree. If another throws inflammatory insults my way or insults another in an inappropriate way, I reserve the right to defend myself or that person as I see fit. I will not instigate, I will not provoke, I will not flame. Is this agreeable?

CKTDB - I FOLLOW YOU. WHY YOU NO LIKE ME? I LIKE ROUGH BOYS? YOU ROUGH BOY?

THANK YOU TBD! That is more than fair! I hope everyone will get on board! Now let us all get along and talk about funny stories and important topics, we'll all be happier and better people for it!

And can someone please explain to ck that the term "retarded" is not menat as an insult to the so-called "differently-abled". I have never heard of the term differently-abled. Did you mean "mentally handicapped" or developmentally delayed" or "cognitively impaired" ? My brother has Asperger's Syndrome which is similar to high functioning autism. All through school he was called "retard" by cruel children. While he is not mentally retarded, he has some developmental impairments in certain areas (very, very smart with non-verbal, average to slightly below average with verbal and severely delayed with social skills). He was, thanks to God, able to make it through college with my help and the help of a wonderful, patient, tutor. His superior math skills have made it possible for him to have a career as an engineer--a perfect fit for his quirky, but endearing personality. While "mentally retarded" is an actual medical term and it is okay to refer to a person as mentally retarded or mentally handicapped---I would never think of using the slang "retard" to define one's impairment. I love my brother dearly and take offense that I am being judged as someone who is insensitive to developmental impairments. For the record, I really do not think that neil is mentally retarded. I guess if I called him "slow" or "mentally ahndicapped" that would not have been making fun of the "differently-abled" ??? I am not trying to open any arguments here--I am sick of defending myself for this when I feel like it has been nothing more than a campaign to discredit me.

I was thinking about Michael Jackson again. I wonder if his children should be in the custody of his mother since his father was an abuser. Is there even an easy answer? It seems that Michael must have trusted his mother, but then gave custody to Diana Ross, not his father, should his mother be incapable. I can only speculate, but believe that those kids must have had a very strange and uncertain life so far.

QuietStorm: What a horrible experience! Can't even imagine what goes through your mind at the time. Did you actually see your neighbor's body being moved? We usally don't have tornadoes here, but lately there are more and more warnings. About 16 yrs. ago, one hit a school upstate and killed 7 children. When my kid isn't chasing ghosts, he's chasing tornadoes. It just fasinates him! I just ordered some steaks from QVC for a reasonable $$$$. The beef around here lately has been so disgusting, I don't even buy it anymore. I can't wait to throw one on the grill with an ear of corn! Yummy. But I purposely try not to watch QVC anymore - a few years back I was ordering all the time! My mom (who accepted my packages) wanted to fix me up with this "very nice" UPS delivery guy named Harry! LOL Gotta go to Kohl's for a birthday present for my cousin! Later! neil - I'm sure you're a great Dad! Kids are a lot smarter than we adults give them credit for and I'm sure they know they are loved.

TBD...you are sounding more and more human all the time now. I think that is what we were all waiting for. I'm glad you are beginning to open up and show a side to you we haven't seen till now. I imagine your brother must know all about mandelbrot fractals. My son is into fractals, and quantum physics.

Fractals are cool. The local HS in my area has a "fractal fair" each year that is sponsored by the Senior Calculus students. I bring my brother every year and he helps out. It is so amazing to see how kind and patient the HS students are with him. When you meet him, his disability is obvious: limited or no eye contact, awkward stance, repetitive movements, monotone speech, flat affect. He is really the fractal expert in my family. If your son is already studying Quantum Mechanics, he must be college-aged or very smart. What interests him in QM? Superposition, wave function collapse,Schrodinger's equation? What a fascinating subject to study! Remember what Niels Bohr said: " Those who are not shocked when they first come across quantum theory cannot possibly have understood it". Tough but interesting topic for sure! Best of luck to him!

There are many terms used to describe others that are "differently-challenged" or people with "special needs" - though kinder than calling them "retarded", they still have a somewhat negative cognitation. We have a "differently-abled" ministry at our church that offers the opportunity for families to attend a special Mass that they can feel a part of and comfortable. I think "differently-abled" acknowledges the abilities instead of the inabiltities. For in some ways aren't we all differently-abled? Don't we each have our own special talents? My son has been part of this ministry since he was twelve helping autistic adults and teens altar serve during the Mass, so we have become very close with many of the families. There isn't very much info on Asperger's Syndrome - and you should be commended for helping your brother. Most are highly intelligent as obviously your brother is.

Obviously, I am differently-abled when it comes to fractals and quantum physics. And sadly you won't find my kid at any fractal fairs either. I've got to get him back to the tutor this summer! She's also an engineer and a brilliant tutor. But $75/hour - ouch!!! No overtime at work these days.

HI CK and TBD....I'm hearing more now concerning Michael Jackson. We all know he left Debbie Rowe out of his will and even made double mention that was deliberate. Now she has decided she wants her kids back! And of course little Blanket isn't one of them, so the kids would be split up if she was to win. I have to wonder if it isn't spite driving her now. I watched Matt Lauer interview Jermaine Jackson and give a tour of Neverland. I was really touched by Jermaine and wonder if the kids wouldn't be better off with his own kids and family. I am also going to change my mind and decide that Michael probably would want to be laid to rest there at Neverland. Even on TV you can feel his presence all around the place, and Jermaine thinks that is where he should rest.

I asked my son which area of Quantum interested him most and he said "All of it". He is studying it at his own leisure. He works as a film technician in the movie business, and has been hired as an extra in several movies. You may already know that New Mexico is the new movie mecca. Lions Gate and some other studios from Hollywood were going to move here before the recession, now everything is in a holding pattern. My son was an extra in the movie "Gamer" which is scheduled for release this Labor Day weekend. It is suppose to be a time in the future where violence is so rampant that people don't even react to it anymore. My son will be in a dance scene where a girl gets shot in the head and he was instructed not to react to it..just keep dancing. It has something to do with a virtual reality game as part of the plot. He will be wearing a microphone necklace as his 'bling".

QS: I am very impressed. He is working full time PLUS interested in Quantum Mechanics?? Wow--usually QM is something that engineering, some math/physics majors and CS majors must study--a necessary evil--but to study this field in your leisure time speaks volumes. I enjoyed QM, but found it very challenging (umm..too challenging). New Mexico? Cool! I spent a month in Taos in 1993. Absolutely breathtaking. I've also been to Los Alamos to visit the National Lab with some engineering buddies a few years back. If your son lives anywhere near Los Alamos, then he is in luck!

If you were in Taos, you should have taken the circular drive through Angel Fire, Eagle's Nest, and Red River. It is an absolutely beautiful mountain drive. My sister and brother -in -law were teachers at Los Alamos for many years. Did you take time to see the ancient indian ruins a few miles outside of Los Alamos? That is a wonderful way to spend the day.

ck, My brother is smart with non-verbal abilities. With verbal abilities, he scored somewhat below average --but with constant tutoring and help with his dyslexia and dysgraphia (not always hand-in-hand with Asperger's but not uncommon with non-verbal LDs)--he was able to maintain average grades in verbal areas. Thanks to the many advocacy groups, including the ADA, he was able to utilize listening devices to compensate for his reading deficit and was able to use a portable key board for writing. Without these accomodations, plus a full time peer tutor (24/7), he never would have made it through college--or HS. Social disabilities can be worse than cognitive disabilities. When a person is cognitively impaired to a disabled degree, people are sympathetic. When someone is disabled socially, many are under the incorrect assumption that it is willful. It is very sad to witness. While he holds a job with an organization that values his strengths, he rarely interacts with the staff and keeps to himself most of the time.

TBD...Would you mind telling us now what state you live in? I just like imagining the surroundings where someone is. And am I right that you are male? It helps us know what time zone you are in as well.

TLC....You can come back now. There is a truce...no more fighting. The past is finally in the past where it belongs!

Yeah, I read a business article recently stating that while academic acheivments are important to any sucessful career, personality and social skills are still the most critical assets considered for promotion in executive positions. I don't think today's kids have the same opportunities to socialize and interact with each other. They're not out there playing and socializing. They're either in organized activities, taking advance academic courses or playing video games. We learned how to get along with each other out in the streets either in a game of kick the can or stick ball. You fought one day and made up the next. You learned to pick your battles and when to concede. Today, they interact with electronics not humans. That's why I think we have more violence in schools and in the streets among the young. One day, they just snap and are not prepared to handle a situation.

Is it me - or do I need a course in quantum physics in order to read this timeline? So, QS - was your son a media major? It must be fascinating to be in the film industry. It only became a major during my senior year - I enjoyed the few classes I took as electives.

HI CK... I was beginning to feel alone. I think TBD has left us for the evening. I don't know exactly what to think of todays kids. I do think alot of them have become way too spoiled and lazy, and they are going to have a rude awakening when they have to get out and work. The one thing that worries me about my son is that he is addicted to WarCraft. He is on the highest level they have, I think he said level 80. He will play all day or night long if he has the time. He has friends that he communicates with over head phones that plot and play around the world. I guess that is what he likes about the game. Luckily he also plays his guitar still, and still reads alot. I'm hoping he will tire of the game so he won't stay up all night

CK...Do you think Neil made it to his destination by now? How far is it between Loveladies [what a crazy name] and NYC?

QS: Sorry I pooped out on you last night. Your son is still addicted to games? Then there's little hope for mine.....My kid will play 24hrs. a day! His eyes get blood shot. It's summer and does he go out? No - he'll play video games. He went to the carnival and text me they were leaving to go to another friend's house - to go play video games!! I told him the carnival only comes once a year and it's a good time to just hang and have fun. Luckily, the fireworks started so they decided to stay. At least you son still has other interests - music and reading. Mine seems to have lost his passion for history and everything else! He never was that passionate about sports, but it was a "social" thing for him and he was pretty good. That is the main reason I am thinking "public" over private school - more of a social life, more physical activity. They don't even "talk" to each other anymore... I was always on the phone with friends and stayed up late at night talking to my boyfriends... just to hear them breathe! Remember those days? "You hang up". "No you hang up first". LOL It was soooo romantic being 16 and hearing a whispered "I love you" on the phone.... However, video games can be good in someways. Your son probably finds it very stimulating to calculate and plot his next move with peers on his own level. It's probably more of a challenge and good "exercise" for his brain! Like when you and TBD discovered your common passion in fractals.... it was almost like foreplay!!!! I am just kidding!

QS: Loveladies IS a strange name, isn't it? I'm not sure where the name came from and know very little about that town except for some of the beautiful homes that were along the beach. It does have a light tower. It's a little bit "north" of LBI (Long Beach Island), which is considered an upscale beach area that has become the beach of prestige over the last 30 yrs. However, I don't find LBI to be anything special - no broadwalk, no night life, not even a good seafood restaurant. I don't even like the beach itself. You have to go over a bridge and enter the beginning LBI in order to get to Loveladies. From my house it's about a 2 hr. drive without any traffic and flying down the parkway. On a holiday weekend.... impossible - traffic is backed up in either direction for miles and miles. I've never travelled from NYC - so I don't know if it's a shorter ride or just more congestion. I'm guessing it could have easily taken him 3-4 hrs. to get there. Gotta go get all of my "Saturday" errands done today! Later... enjoy your day off.

I only have a minute to respond, QS. I am taking off for the holiday weekend. I am located in New York City too (maybe neil and I can get together at Dean and Deluca for coffee???) as well as Massachusetts... both Eastern standard Time. I have an office in Cambridge Ma so I travel between both locations. Last year of college buddies and I rented a place in Taos for a month long ski vacation. Embarrassed that I cannot remember most of it (hey....it was college). We rarely left the general ski area....as far as I can remember. More later on Los Alomos. Oh, and I'm a dude.

Good Morning To Everyone! I woke up to a cloudy day with a gentle rain coming down. Very happy to see that since yesterday was the hottest day so far this summer. It is nice and cool out and the moisture is always welcomed here. I think it is a wonderful thought that you [TBD] would like to meet Neil over coffee.

QS: Felt bad I couldn't get back to you earlier - on the run for most of the day and doing laundry into the evening. It feels like a Saturday for me. I wanted to post earlier, but I got really caught up in the Palin resignation and Michael Jackson media coverage. I really dislike getting caught up in the frenzy - but it is addicting once you start - like Princess Di, Elvis, JFK, Little JFK. Did you do anything special today, or just relax... which in itself can be very special. EVERYONE: Have a wonderful weekend. Possibly catch up with you all on Sunday.

HAPPY 4th of JULY to CK, TLC, JC, NIE, NEIL, and TBD! I had to work today but now I'm home and I will have Sun. and Mon. off. It was a good day and I am now looking forward to a stay at home relaxing evening. It is windy out right now and hopefully it will die down by the time 9:30 pm arrives as that is when they plan to set off the big fireworks I can watch from my front yard. I hope everyone is enjoying their day! Don't blow off any fingers or toes!! Happy 4th!

Wow it took me like half an hour to read all of the posts I missed. Thank you QS I have enjoyed my 4th. I hope you have good fireworks!

TBD- here are some ideas i had for your name : your initials, your first name, your favorite flavor of pie, your favorite cartoon character, your favorite biblical character, your name that you wish you had, your favorite color, your favorite brand of water, your great grand father's second name.....

JC!.... I'm laughing...but hey!....those are some terrific choices and ideas for TBD!

I aim to please :)

SUNDAY MORNING! HI EVERYONE! How was your 4th? A storm rushed in with the wind and we got a good soaking and some thunder boomers. Like most storms here it was all over in about 40 minutes time. It created a beautiful rainbow over the valley and set the scene for a calm, cool, and perfect evening for the fireworks. I'm hoping to hear from everyone! Anybody out there?

Hey QS glad to hear you enjoyed your 4th haha and my name suggestions. I'm here!

HI JC! How was your 4th? Did you do anything special?

Hi my fourth was good it was my sister's birthday so we went out for dinner and then watched fireworks.

TO ALL: There was something astounding, shocking, and mysterious that happened to my ex back in 1979 [if my memory is correct] that I witnessed and it has alot to do with my belief system to this day. I swear on my own life this really happened. Let me start by reminding you that Einstein had a theory that all time exists at once. The only way I can wrap my mind around that thought is to imagine a vinyl record on a record player. Now picture your consciousness as the needle in the arm being picked up and moved to the different grooves on the record. Get the idea? Keep that in mind as I tell you what happened. First, a quick background on my ex. He worked at the Pentagon for Army Intelligence with very high clearance. I know what he did, but I feel it best and wise not to go into that. He was also once a systems analyst for IBM. He got bored with that and bought a sound company, which was around the time I met him. I knew him to be highly intelligent, honest, with good intuition, but not psychic in the common use of that word. Now to the story. One night we were sleeping when he suddenly sat straight up in bed, breathing hard with sweat pouring off of him. I asked him what was wrong. He told me he had just had a nightmare that was so real he couldn't believe it. He told me that in this dream a passenger plane had just left the airport when it started to flip to a vertical sideways position. In the dream, he heard a horrendous noise and opened the door of a white cinder block building, and when he looked up this plane was in the process of flipping on its back and coming towards him. It crashed across the road from him and wiped out some mobile homes. He described the smell of fuel, flames and wreckage everywhere, and pieces of flesh almost everywhere he looked. He had this same dream at least 6 times in a 3 week period. One of those nights after he had the dream he told me he now knew what kind of plane it was. It was an American Airlines DC-10. How did he know? In this particular dream he saw a glimpse of the wallpaper inside the plane. He flew constantly with his job and knew that was the only type plane that had that particular wallpaper! I don't remember how many days since the last nightmare, maybe 3 to 7 days , we found ourselves in Telluride, CO. One of our accounts was providing sound for their annual bluegass and jazz festivals. We were taking a break to eat some lunch at one of the little restaurants. Before we walked in, he noticed a newspaper stand. On the front page of the newspaper was a plane caught in a photograph in a sideways vertical position just before it crashed after take off from the Chicago O'Hare Airport. When my ex saw that he got tears in his eyes and told me "That's what I've been seeing, only I was over here in this photo. He pointed to the direction where the plane was headed, where it would crash in a field wiping out some mobile homes. Do you think that's strange? Well, a few months later he found himself at Chicago O'Hare waiting for a connecting plane. He decided to rent a car and drive around the airport area. He found the crash site. Across the road sat a white cinder block building! It was a truck repair shop!! I wouldn't have believed all this if I hadn't experienced it for myself. To my knowledge, he has never had anything like this happen since.

Wow. Strange coincidence.... creepy. Although, that was a really random and irrelevant...

JC... Not so irrelevant and coincidental when you consider it was an American Airlines DC-10 that crashed. #2 It did crash shortly after take off because an engine fell off. #3 It happened within a very short time of the dreams happening. #4 The white cinder block building in the dream exists. #5 I saw his reactions, it shook him to the core. I know you don't believe in anything, and I won't waste time trying to convince you otherwise, but this really happened, and to me it speaks of a miraculous and mysterious world with a whole lot more going on than what we can even perceive with our little human minds. Scientists and physicists are only beginning to comprehend and scratch the surface of the existence of the various dimensions that exist. But they are beginning to believe, and know they exist.

QS- yeah don't waste your time on me, I don't believe in the supernatural and won't until there is hard proof. I won't discourage you from your beliefs or judge you, becuase it's what you believe in and i respect that since you don't mind me. I think thats a cool story though. No i didn't mean that it was irrelevant like that, i mean that we hadn't been talking about stuff like that in a while..

JC...there already is hard proof out there in the form of very credible witnesses of high rank and education, video clips, audio clips, and even scientific proof. But for people such as yourself, if it hasn't happened to you personally, you won't even consider it. That's okay and understandable. I gained my beliefs also from mostly first hand experiences. And from that, I developed an insatiable desire to learn all I can about the unexplained happenings I have experienced first hand. Your life isn't over yet, somewhere along the line you might just be surprised at what life will show you!

I prefer when people don;t preach to me so maybe change the subject before i start to debate ok? I like to be nice :) maybe i should change my name...

JC...not preaching! Just stating my beliefs. Sorry you feel threatened! And yes, this is definitely not a conversation you and I should continue with each other considering how you're feeling. So, if you would like, pick another topic.

Yes this is definitely not a conversation i would like to continue. Do you think i should get a new name???

How are you feeling about it?

Well i feel this name is no longer suiting to me

Any ideas? Maybe a Greek God or Godddess ! How about Aphrodite! Goddess of love! LOL

I am the one formerly known as Jesus Christ, now please refer to me as Athena, the wisest of the greek gods, and the god of wisdom and strategy. Thank you for the wonderful idea QS :)

GOOD CHOICE ATHENA! Glad I could help! Do you feel any different now that you have a new name?

I feel smarter and less intrusive. Now, anything interesting happen lately?

Athena...are you following any of the Jackson news? They said 1.6 million people have applied for the 5000 seats being made available to the public for his memorial service in that auditorium. I wish I was that popular and well liked!

i haven't really been following any of the Jacksopn news, and in fact i'm tired of the fact that michael jackson seems to be the only thing that the peopl ein the news want to talk about htese days. I was watching my favorite show on cnn yesterday (campbell brown, i really liked her coverage of the election) and they were doing a profile of michael jeckson and i was just tired of it. I mean, there can't be that much more news about him. And yes, I would love to be that popular..... i would feel so loved

You mentioned that you do social work. How many cases are you carrying? If you don't want to talk about it...let me know.

It changes all the time. I am actually legally not allowed to talk about my clients or any of that information for their personal protection.

What do you do for a living?

Understood. I am currently working for the FCC helping with the digital conversion process. I am however working for a temp agency till I find a full time permanent position. I would love to stay on permanent with this, but the jury is still out on whether that will happen, so mean time, I wait and see what the future holds.

Oh well. I hope you can find a steady job. I think I might go back to school and become a teacher because I really wanted to become a teacher and then I got into social work but it's a hard field to be in.

I'm sure it's hard on you or anyone doing that job. My sister was a teacher for many years, now she's retired. Even teaching is a very hard field now. So much has changed from what it use to be. Kids are tougher and often give no respect to their teachers, and you can't discipline them like in the old days. They're having sex in the bathrooms and all over the place! So many kids don't speak good English and that slows down the class and the smart students get bored. They don't get paid enough for what they do. Are you sure you want to be a teacher?

Well I really enjoy kids and I love what teachers get to teach and my neices and nephews are always complaining that school is boring and I think that school should be a fun place. I just want people to apreciate school more than they seem to now. More than 1000 kids drop out of highschool everyday in the united states and they don't know how privelaged they are to even get to go to school let alone the fact that they cna have free education that children in less fortunate countries could never dream of even being able to pay for. I think I would be good at teaching, and maybe not highschool...........

I love kids too. Especially the youngest ones. Their little faces are so bright and full of hope. If I was a teacher I would pick the early grades.

I think would like to teach around 5th grade because the material isn't at such a low level and I can actually teach instead of it being completely elementary, but also it isn't highschool so they aren't all into partying and that stuff yet ( I would hope)

I think that is a very detrimental stage in a kids life, when a good teacher can make all the difference. Kids are maturing at a faster rate than ever thanks to the growth hormones fed to poultry and beef. They are already exploring sex by that age now. That is so sick! Do you believe in sex education being taught in the schools?

I think that it makes it a lot less awkward for parents, and becuase kids are maturing faster and television is teaching them about sex at such a young age, that it is a necessary thing. It also prevents things to a certain point. I'm not against it, lets say. I mean there are some downsides, but it's not all bad. I would say that my fifth grade teacher was not the best, and i survived, but many people around me started hating school after that.

I had a sex education course that was given I believe when I was in 6th grade. I thank God for it, and believe it should be taught in all schools. There is too much misinformation out there in the kid world and they need to know about their developing bodies and have it treated like the normal process it is. I wish they had gone into further depth about the emotional impact early sex or dating can have on your life, the consequences. They kept it as more a biological happening.

I think that now it is even more about emotional impact of sex and the reason for having sex or not having it. Also contraception. Ok enough of that. Anything else?

I wonder were everyone else is, I hope htey are having a good day. I wish that TLC would come back, it's peaceful now.

Yes, enough said on that topic. I wish I could talk longer, but need to take a break and get a few things done. Perhaps later this evening I might be able to check back with you....till then..

Have fun :)

Athena: You are very loved and quite the celebrity here on Rickey's polls. Many people followed your posts and you were always remembered.... your previous name WAS an attention getter. LOL It will take some time for me to get use to calling you Athena... why the name change? If you truly care about your students, there isn't that much difference between being social worker and teacher. It's not one of those jobs you can go home, turn off and go to sleep at night. But from some of your posts, you'd probably make a very good, open minded teacher. Good luck with whatever you decide.

QS: Your post on the airplane dream was very interesting. While most dreams are just the mind unwinding at the end of the day, there does seem to be more to this particular reccurring dream that actually came true in detail. The mind is quite capable of many things that we cannot explain.... Ten months after my grandmother died, I woke up and found my mother in a extremely anxious state. Asking her what was wrong, she told me she had dreamed about searching from something - but she didn't know what she was looking for in her dream - she said in her dream it was important to find whatever it was... After our conversation, she went down to the basement - I assumed to make a wash. After a long period of time, she came back up with her hand in her pocket and a very confused look on her face. As she pulled her hand out of her pocket, she said to me "Look at what I found...." It was a box with a brooch and matching earrings that had belonged to my grandmother. Asking her where she found it, she replied up in the wooded beams of the basement ceiling (we have an unfinished basement). She had felt compelled to search - but who searches the eaves of the ceiling?? She said she found it above where our washing machine had been located years before - we had since moved it when we had gotten new sewers. The best we could figure was that my grandmother was doing wash, and found her jewerly in her dress pocket and placed it up on the wooden beam until she finished her wash - forgetting to bring it back upstairs with her. Not giving it much more thought, I was just happy that my mom seemed more relaxed about her "searching" dream until.... I realized that it was Nov. 2nd - the Feast of All Souls Day. I don't consider this dream a coincidence or a dream of the subconscious. Had she not had the dream, we never would have found the jewelry....

Hmm ck i think you are right that my previous name was an attention getter but my reason for having that as my name was actually becuase my nick name is jesus. I decided to change my name because i realised that it really didn't suit me and so i decided to change it to athena partly becuase of QS, and partly becuase i think it suits me alot more. It's going to take me a while to get used to athena too. I won't go back to school now because of the crisis of the economy and the fact that my job is steady and pays relatively well so i have a while to decide. Hmm another interesting story but i won't get into that. I wish you all a good day. Come back TLC!

Fascinating story CK! Many people believe our dream world can be a connection to the other side. I remember a story on Unsolved Mysteries of a guy who lived and worked in Evergreen, CO. It is tucked inside the mountains with just a hop and skip to Denver. I used to go up there with friends on weekends to a little cute bar-restaurant called The Hungry Bear. Anyway there was a detective who lived in some other city and state as I remember who fell asleep. He was startled when he heard a loud voice in his head say " My name is .....[whatever it was, can't remember his name] and I was murdered. Look at the newspaper tomorrow on the 2nd page." Sure enough this name he had never heard of before was mentioned in an article and someone or something had killed him. This dead guy kept communicating in his dreams and told him a friend of his killed him for the money he had on him. The detective went to Evergreen and met the widowed wife and told her the entire story. Everything matched, but unfortunately as far as I know to this day they were never able to bring this man to justice for lack of evidence. Maybe you can find this story on the web.

More and more interesting stories. How was your day QS?

QS: I'm going to try and find that story.... it sounds like it would make a good movie. Since they never convicted the killer, I wonder if the detective still has dreams. Do you watch Medium??? I do like that show - but it does scare me sometimes. When I was little, my grandmother always told me that if you dream about someone who is dead and they ask you to go somewhere with them, you must always say "NO! I know you are dead." Shortly after my father died, I had a dream about him. I was at a business meeting and he comes barging into the meeting dressed in the suit we buried him in and opens up the blue-print design for his headstone and says to me "Christine... these plans is all wrong." He was quite upset that they were wrong. And in my dream, I'm thinking to myself... oh please don't ask me to go anywhere - when he does ask me to go for a ride with him and I remembered what my grandmother had told me to say "no".... I woke up and figured it was all from the stress of ordering a headstone - because I had designed one myself with my family and we were concerned about it. However, I brought in the blueprints to my job, had it proof-read, had the art designers go everything in detail to make sure the measurements were accurate. Double checked it over and over again. Everything appeared to be okay. We ran up to see it when it was finally delivered and it was obviously crooked.... they swear nothing is wrong with it, but nobody can get the thing to look straight - no matter which way they move it. My brother used a leveler, the company has been there several times - nothing wrong - but there it stands - crooked, crooked, crooked. Looks like Dad was right.....

CK...I wonder what would have happened if you had gone for a ride with him! He loved you and wouldn't have harmed you in anyway. Too bad you were scared because of what you were told. Now if in a dream a stranger would ask you to go somewhere, you would likely have a gut feeling even in a dream whether you should go. Dreams can be so amazing. I like the dreams where I'm getting kissed by a celebrity. I've been kissed by Bono and by Patrick Swayze in my dreams and BOY did I wake up with a big smile on my face!

Athena! Have you ever been kissed by a celebrity in your dreams?

CK..I meant to tell you that the detective ends up dying of a heart attack near the end of that story, Luckily, he typed or put on audio tape every detail told to him by this murdered guy. I believe his widow was given the tape. They were told by her husband where he put the knife and bloody clothing. It was all thrown into a dammed up pond. They searched but didn't find the murder weapon.

QS: No celebrity kisses here. But more than a couple of sexual dreams about male co-workers.... which usually makes me feel wierd and creepy when I see them. LOL

That is so funny CK! One time a guy I worked with told me he had a dream about me the night before. I asked him what he dreamed and he just said with a smile he couldn't really remember. Now that was a little creepy!

QS: Oh yeah... I'm sure he remembered it!!!! LOL It will take me forever to find that story about the detective.... there are pages of mysteries and murders on Google for Evergreen, Co. - not to mention hauting stories and haunted places to visit - Colorado must be a hot bed for murder and hauntings!!!!! No wonder your childhood was scrary with weird happenings.

NEIL! I heard about the accident at DisneyWorld. I immediately thought about your kids and ex. Please tell me they weren't involved. How are you doing?

Lots of Indian and pioneer battles and lots of history in general. Lots of old mining towns with fascinating stories. My dad loved history and knew Colorado history extremely well. He would take us to history sites where we could find arrowheads and pottery shards. You have no idea yet some of the strange things that have happened to me. Some of it is just too unbelievable so I doubt I can tell you everything. It's too bad I can't show you certain things I have, because I have clippings, books, scrapbooks and some things that would back up these stories so you would know I'm not telling a whopper. Since I can't, it's just better I don't tell you everything.

Athena: Did you get to see any fireworks?? We didn't :( Don't wait too long to get back to school. It gets harder and harder..... that steady paycheck is harder to give up with each passing day - how about partime work - partime school? QS: Save the clippings for when I visit NM... LOL - Someday my friend. Nie: Come on back - I know you're out there! I miss you and TLC.

CK... I FINALLY FOUND IT! The Unsolved Mysteries episode featuring the Evergreen murder. I found it on TV. Com. It was on Season 9, Episode 5 but listed as #393. Phil Harris was the name of the private detective and the dead man was David Chase. They thought at first he drowned as he was found in the creek. He died from a blow to the back of the head, but a knife was used to cut off his clothing, leaving nicks on his legs.

Thanks, QuietStorm. I can't watch it until later after work. Athena: Unless your buddy, KH, reads through all of this stuff, he won't know your Athena on the next Rickey poll.....

It was exhausting reading through the volume of messages left here during my weekend "sabatical". You will all be happy to know that I am back. I cannot remember where I left off and don't have the mental stamina now to scroll through and read my last, and all of your latest, messages again. Where to begin???? Athena, I like "Jesus Christ" as your name and am sad that you have henceforth abandoned that identity. So, I need to ease myself into the change--I will call you Jesthena for now. Is this okay? Humor me? QS: am feeling a tiny tinge of guilt for having broken my vow--when I asked neil for coffee I was being facetious. NYC is a large city and meeting up for coffee involves careful planning. I really was not interested in meeting him for cafe ole'. I am never in any one place for very long. I travel between two offices and travel quite often. With regard to all of the supernatural stuff--I have to agree with Jesthena, though I try to be open minded. I am a very scientific minded person and I always require proof of the existence or proof of "absence of the existence" of something in order to accept it. This is how I am wired. I think there are far too many plausible explanations, coincidences and alternative explanations for many of these phenomena that people experience. I once had a psych professor in college who had a PhD in physics as well. She was probably the most brilliant person I had ever met. One day we were discussing the supernatural. She made the point of telling me that highly intelligent people often seek meaning and explanation--even where there is none. She went on to explain that some people decide to become physicists (highest "IQ" PhD pursued) and some she had known had gone on to pursue meta physics after as they require deeper explanations about the world and why things occur, happen --seeking meaning beyond the scientific explanations. And then they accept that it is not all coincidence and chance. Something to ponder....

Gender? QS had inquired about my gender. I am male. I have made some gender assumptions about others and wanted to confirm. My felling is that Jesthena, QS and ck (ESPECIALLY ck) are of the female persuasion and that neil (based only on his chosen name, and maybe his free use of the term "not to be mentioned here again") is a dude. TLC (the one who who hates my guts more than ck, if that be possible...) is female. Correct a mundo?

I already told you, I don't do hate. Besides why are you going back there again? I thought we were all past that point now..... How was Massachusetts?

QS: I went to the tv.com and read the description of the show.... but couldn't find the episode to watch. Now having the victim's name, i googled and found quite a lengthy description of the story..... here's the link...... http://poundpuplegacy.org/node/31407

Jesthena IS cute....

TBD- thank you I love this name!!! hahaha I am keeping it. Now just to find a name for you.....

mea culpa, ck.

ck, Did I mention that I was joining my family on Cape Cod, Massachusetts for the 4th? Are you psychic? Seriously, I do not recall mentioning here that I was escaping to the Bay State for the holiday. It's official: I'm spooked! Beautiful weather Saturday and Sunday, but I am happy to be back in NY where it is actually warmer. Usually we go to the Hamptons for family gatherings, but my dear aunt bought a lot on the Cape so it appears we will be having our family gatherings there from here on. Not so shabby...i

TBD- what???

Jesthena:

What about "what"? I am not sure what you are asking. Thanks.

TBD- nevermind... so what are you contemplating changig yur name to? And yes you were right about the genders

No need to be spooked... you mentioned that you go back and forth between NYC and Mass - so I assumed you were leaving NYC for Massachusetts for the holiday...... but then how did I know that you were in NYC and not already in Mass leaving for NYC? Maybe I am psychic! LOL

Jesthena: When are you going to Canada? And does that mean we won't be hearing from you for 3 weeks??????

CK- I'm going at the begining of august, and I might update you then!

Jesthena: Are you planning to spend the entire time with your family or are you sight seeing and exploring? Perhaps a camping trip? I know that fishing is a big thing in Canada, isn't it? I never would have guessed that you were the "outdoors", camping type. Cool.....

HI TBD, CK, and JESTHENA! I like Jesthena...completely original. I enjoyed your thoughts about the paranormal TBD. I too feel I have a very scientific mind and I don't want to believe in anything that isn't real. I wish it was possible to do that Vulcan mind melt thing where you could experience first hand what I have experienced with this phenomena. I can't turn my back on it because it has hit me smack in the face in numerous ways. It seems abnormal to me that "unusual" things haven't happened to everyone. But evidently it hasn't, and in a way I find that almost sad for those who haven't had their minds opened to the possibilities. I have seen and read and talked to hundreds of witnesses of events and stories of nothing short of astounding miracles happening around us. There certainly is garbage out there that are lies, pranks, jokes, and trickery. But all it takes is one authentic clip, witness, photo, what have you, to make something real and a possibility. If you don't seek, you aren't likely to find! I have sought, and I have found a wealth of knowledge I wouldn't trade for anything. I can only wish for everyone to find their own "enlightened" truth. I am well on my way to finding mine.

Qs I'm glad that you like this name too! Thanks again to TBA. CK- Well I'm spending most of the trip with my family but we are going to do some things together like go to niagra falls. I hope everyone else is enjoyng the summer!

CK...How is your day going so far? Do you get to work from home, if not, how far do you have to travel to get to work?

So are we staying on this poll for good?

Jesthena.....HI! I think the latest polls Rickey has been coming up with are rather lame and not too interesting. Also, we now have this site all to ourselves it would seem, and it's peaceful, so my vote would go to staying here for the time being.

Ok sounds good to me. Since this poll is closed, no one really comes to it. They all go to the new polls which i agree are lame. Showmance? Wow. I think he's running out of ideas.

QS: Hi! My commute is 30-45 minutes without traffic. Since the route heads toward NYC it can sometimes become crippled with traffic. But summer is usually breeze. We are very slow as most companies are right now, otherwise I would not be able to pop in and out. I hope things pick up soon.... it's so boring at times. No to mention, many people have been layed off - it's like a "ghost town" around here. Jes: Yeah.... what's with the "who's taller poll"?????

CK- I don't know, alot of the rickey polls have become completely pointless. I don't vote on the anymore...

WHOA! Of the people who have, as of late, actively posted on this board--3 of us are in the greater NYC area? Now that is semi-amazing. ck, are you close to the city? Please note: this IS NOT a pick-up line.

I live in NJ very close to the Upstate NY border. My job is closer to NYC, with all the major highways heading east - thus all the traffic and congestion. And no, I don't have Jersey Big Hair. Nor do any of us know or associate with anyone remotely like the Housewives of New Jersey - which are really imposters - since they really are "first generation recently relocated" from Brooklyn. (No offense to anyone from Brooklyn - but these ladies are not Jersey Girls.) I have been to the Brownstone several times for different occassions. It's a decent place but located in a slum area that you wouldn't want to get lost in.

Grimoire13 is from PA - which is also very close to our area.

As a child, we lived in Cherry Hill, NJ (some consider it Philly, not Jersey) for a few years before my father's job relocated us to the UK for three eyars.

Cherry Hill is quite a trip from my place.... so is the UK. Nie studies in the UK and parties in the rest of Europe. What a life! Are you there Nie?

well, how about this then..My former room mate attended Rutgers and was from Hunterdon County. My former employer had a regional office in Mt. Laurel (I traveled here quite often between 1999-2003). Other than my partial upbringing in Cherry Hill--I've pretty much exhausted my Jersey connections. Love the shore, though! I haven't visited there in years.

Nie seems to have a happy existence! I have very unhappy memories of my UK years as a teen. My parents split up then and my brother, sister and I had to come home after three years while my father remained in the UK.

Where were you BEFORE Cherry Hill?

Greater Baltimore area. Parents were both on staff at JHU at the time. Then from there we moved to Bethesda before settling in Cherry Hill. As an infant and toddler (veeeeerrry cute toddler) we lived in Walnut Creek, CA (San Francisco area). I also lived in San Paolo, Brazil for one year as a grammer school student--don't remember much of that year.

San Paulo (sp)

Wow you moved around a lot.

QuietStorm: I just got finished watching the Bachelorette.... it seemed sooo long. Did I miss the scene where one of the guys disappointed her in the bedroom - was that LAST week? Cause it wasn't this week either. And don't they go to her hometown to meet her parents? They didn't talk about that in coming previews. WES IS THE BIGGEST JERK EVER! Don't ask, cause I don't want to spoil the show for you. Later. Jesthena: It's too bad you didn't keep up with "Mental" - some of the shows have been really very good. Try to catch them in repeats if you can. Tomorrow - good night everyone.

CK....It is 2:45am here and I am so going to regret staying up this late since I have to work tomorrow and Wed., but I started reading on that web site you gave me about the murder of David Chase as told by his wife Judy Chase. I read the entire thing and it took all day but was well worth it. My God it was a shocking, very shocking story that goes way beyond what Unsolved Mysteries talked about. What that poor woman has been through you wouldn't believe! This story goes way beyond murder and I'm not even talking about the paranormal because that is barely even mentioned. You have got to read the story, it will blow your mind! Even Dog The Bounty Hunter gets involved with this story and what he uncovers is shocking. Thank you so much for turning me onto this!

A few quick words about The Bachelorette and then I"ve got to get to bed. I watched it tonight while also reading that story. Thank God she finally saw Wes for the jerk off he was. I hope his band and cd go down in flames, and I think it probably will since he just showed the whole world what an insincere and selfish idiot he is. She didn't try to sleep with any of them yet. It must happen when she's down to the final two, and that is when they also meet her parents. I think it will be between Reid and Ed.

QS: I read that article before posting it. It was LONGER than I thought, but very detailed about the event. There was very little about the paranormal so I am going to google Phil Harris and see what I can find on him. A sight I found said that David Chase was deaf and had regained his hearing - and that was murdered before he could testify about something he saw.... but when I opened the sight is was all about Judi's career and causes. Hope you don't have to get up for the 8-4 shift.... Can you believe the dumb things Wes said at the rose ceremony to the guys??? Not to mention that he admitted having a girlfriend in the car? I wonder what his girl thinks of him - if she knew about this "act", she's just as low as he is. This could not possibly help his career. The finale - who do you think rejects her and makes her cry? Was that Eddie's voice.... Have a good day!

did someone mention foreplay, ck? my kids are here at loveladies with me for the rest of the summer, so i'm running things from home. did everyone have a nice 4th?

Hi neil! What great weather you had for your party!

too bad you didn't come down this way.

Just a thought, but maybe Nie and TLC don;t know which poll we are on and think that we are just gone...

you are probably right.

What a gorgeous day it was here! I taped the MJ memorial, but haven't decided if I'm going to watch it or not yet. I think Nie would figure out we're still here if she didn't find us on the most current poll.

QuietStorm - I guessed you worked the 8-4 shift today - or maybe caught some zzzzzzzz!

it's very quiet here today. quietstorm are you working?

Hi CK and Niel... Finally home from work! It was a good day but a long day. Ever notice that when you're tired, the day seems twice itself in length? That was my day, and I am so glad to be home now. How was your 4th Neil? It was a good thing I stayed home that day because a bad lightning storm moved in and caught the fireworks crowd by surprise and the news reported it was near mass hysteria as people tried to find cover. Lightning killed a guy and injured his wife out there. I am pretty terrified of lightning.

CK....If you watch the Jackson memorial grab the Kleenex box. I caught the beginning before I left for work and saw the last half at work. I was never a huge Jackson fan but it took everything I had to try to hold it together. Even then a tear rolled down my face. It was very well done and worth watching. Still hard to believe he's gone. Those kids belong with the Jackson clan, I feel sure of that now.

Hi Everyone! QS: Yes, parts of the memorial service were very touching and sad. Brooke Shields was genuinely upset and her eulogy was personal and heartfelt. I didn't get Al Sharpton and other commentators on the news about MJ being the first to get air-play on FM radio... There were a lot of black artists played on local FM stations in this area if their music fit the musical program - Hendrix, Otis, Bill Withers, Dobie Grey, Sly Stone, Ritchie Havens - to name a few were always played on rock stations. But Jackson's stuff was more of the "pop" category, so they didn't play it on Rock FM.... they also didn't play Madonna or BeeGees Disco either. I don't remember MTV's format - it could have been more hard rock when they first started. I never new that Marlin had a twin brother that died at birth... And the last I heard, they hadn't buried him but moved his body to an undisclosed location. He will need his own little island like Princess Di. I saw an interview with his friend and pastor who said he wouldn't be suprised if this is what Michael wanted - he knew that he would never be physically able to complete 50 shows. It's all soooo sad. I'm not a big MJ fan, but he is a part of my history from childhood and he was very talented. Are you working today? I'm in for a few hours this morning, and I'm leaving early to check out the public school. We're slow at work, so they don't care if I skip out at lunch. See ya!

neil: So what are your plans for the summer, now that you have the kids?

Good Morning CK....yes, I go to work at noon today, same as yesterday. This time I got more sleep! I think what the Jackson clan are doing is holding onto his body in hopes they can work out a deal to hold onto the now in foreclosure Neverland property and bury him out there, hence a second Graceland that will be an absolute gold mine. Jermaine said that's where he belongs and I take that to be the Jackson wish. I don't blame them. It is a beautiful property and it reflects and feels like Michael's spirit is still there. If a deal can't be reached, I would guess either an above ground mausoleum at Forest Lawn, or even more likely another private Jackson property where again they can set up a Graceland thing.

QuietStorm: I do agree with you. Michael really needs to be buried in a private place like a Graceland, less his final resting place be trashed like Jim Morrison's. I've seen pictures, and it's really sad. Perhaps they will wait awhile so they can bury him intact, since they are still performing some autopsy. If it were my family member, I would wait.... Nie: Are you getting MJ coverage in HK?

Hey CK... are you worried at all about getting laid off? It's pretty frightening that there is no such thing as job security or even company loyalty any more. I hope the company you work for survives through these hard times. I just talked to my temp agency and they said they have another job lined up for me should this one not last much longer. It would be work on the CNM campus as a test proctor. I've already done this and don't mind it, but it will be further away [ 9 miles one way] and the pay isn't as good as this job. But at least I can keep money coming in.

Well, it is time for me to eat something for breakfast and to get ready. I'll check back in this evening. Have a fabulous day everyone!

QS: Things are very bad here in Jersey. My sister is laid off. My brother has to take 2 weeks off to save his job. My company is on a shoe-string - so it's day by day.... This economy is the pits and only getting worse by the minute. I will admit that I originally came to this site as a distraction from politics and the economy, and stayed because of our little group. But I still stay very informed and I fear that all the media coverage of MJ has diverted our attention from some serious bills being passed and/or in the making. Religion and politics are two issues we should probably stay away from..... but I will say that I do believe in less government. The government should work for us, the people. We should not work for the government - and unfortunately, I believe that is the way we are headed. And it scares me - for our children and grandchildren.

HI CK.....It looks like you and I are the only ones who felt like talking today! It is 11pm now, and this is my first chance this evening to relax and see what's new on here. I have the next 2 days off, although that can change on a dime. They know they can count on me if they need me. I think President Obama is honest and doing his best to help us. It is still too early to know if his plan is going to work. I just heard today that only 56 billion has made it into the work force so far. There are checks and balances in place to monitor this money, and I believe it will be released in increments. Some of this money has a plan to be recouped later on as our country gets back on its feet. Less government always sounds like the best bet, but look what happened when Bush deregulated the bank system. Greed set in and the banks went wild giving out risky loans and mortgages, and that is the biggest reason we got in this stinking mess. Who ever is in power,we need watch dog groups to keep a close eye on things, there is good and there is always the chance for corruption on both sides of the aisle.

QS: Thank goodness you're off tomorrow. It's hard waiting up for you with these late hours you have. Yeah... where is everyone else? Jesthena hasn't been around and it's been ages we've heard from Nie. It's really late here, and I'm not too tired yet, but I probably should try and catch some sleep. neil: did you have a good day?

I am still here. I didn't mean to give you all a fright. I travel quite a bit and spend a good deal of time away from my keyboard...First, the Jackson Memorial. Watched most of it at work--yes, sad.I was a fan...not because I liked his style of music, but as Kara would quip "he had artistry"! I hate Kara. Jackson was an unbelievable mega talent encapsulated by a tormented soul. I am not sure those children (Micheal's) need to stay with that highly dysfunctional neurotic family. By all accounts, Dad Joe was an abuser..psychologically, emotionally and physically . One does not need a PhD in child Psychology to figure that one out. The body and facial dysmorphia of not only Michael, but of LaToya, speaks volumes. I feel for what he endured. The economy: It's in the tank and sinking like the Titanic. ck is correct in stating that we have not heard much in the way of negative news, other than the DOW dipping more and more...I see no end near despite what the financial oracles are trying to sell us. All indicators say "brace yourself, this is only the beginning". We listen to "Squawk Box", "CNN Financial", and the like and we assume that they know what the prognosis is. They do not. They are speculating...and hoping you will continue to invest and FORCE the economy to reverse the current downward trend. My 401-k contributions are staying in cash reserves. I am worried about the direction of our Country--spending money we do not have, creating and increasing government controlled programs....I could go on. Yes, Obama seems nice and sincere and intelligent...but he was inexperienced and needed the backing of strong Dems--so of course we have Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi controlling our Country now. Hey, they seem nice--but we didn't elect them for President. My feeling is that Obama has very little decision making power when it comes down to it. I also STRONGLY believe in less government--although I almost always (but not always) vote Democratic. Sounds contradictory, but it is not. Since this is not a political board, I won't offer any more on this topic of Dems and less government. I am concerned that we may be creating a class (for lack of a better term) of people who are government dependent. The government's job is not to help us by bailing us out. That is the big misconception. Ask anyone form the UK. I expect to see more lay offs and astronomically higher unemployment rates by the years' close. My company is solvent--for many reasons--still, I lost two clerical workers in my department and we are seeing huge cutbacks in tech support. I am lucky that my position is almost always safe. Next topic: Weather....Sunny in NYC, Massachusetts is depressingly wet, cloudy and muddy.

I had a hard time dragging my sorry self out of bed today! "Cat People" was on at 2:40 am......... Okay, so has anyone in real life ever been stalked?

Yes, I was stalked twice, and by both genders--though, one incident may not qualify as actual criminal stalking. Let me know if you'd like details.

Of course details, please.....

I didn't see your other post on the economy. My 401k is a disaster! I have struggled to stay in Bergen County because of my mother - she had lived here most of her life and I didn't want to take her out of her home and comfort zone. But this is one of the top counties in the the country as far as high taxes go - and it's just not worth it anymore other than my brother will never leave and he's all the immediate family I've got now besides my son (I said sister up above - I meant my sister-in-law.) When I watch househunters and see the homes and the $$$$$, then look at what's here and the cost - ugh!. To sell now would be an utter loss. In addition, I will admit I am somewhat fearful of moving since all my doctors (top in their field of brain surgery) are located in NYC. What a mess if I move south and get really sick - then what will happen to my kid? We won't have the same support system we have here.... my immediate neighbors are the same as when I was a kid - so they're kinda like extended family.

The conventional wisdom is that local taxes will increase with a poor economy. Lucky for me my company rents an apartment for me in NYC (small, but nice area) and I receive a decent stipend for living expenses in MA. I owned a condo in Cambridge, MA a few years back. I sold it in 2003 and made some money back then. If you can hold on to that home for 3-4 more years, you will, most likely, be able to sell it then. What chronic neurological condition do you have? Epilepsy? I just am guessing here...

Stalking incidents: In college, I met a woman who approached me in the student union building. What I noticed immediately was that she was beautiful AND she was talking to me--rare combo back then. Turns out she was a Russian exchange student (or so she said...). She was definitely Russian. I think she was in this Country via a student visa--I never really was convinced that she was enrolled at my Uni. Back then you could come to the US on a student visa and enroll PT for a year before enrolling or applying as a FT student. We spent some time together and before long I noticed that she was fat in the abdominal region. I asked her if she was pregnant (disclaimer: I only knew her for a week or so at this point). She wept and told me this sob story about abuse and some boyfriend who was following her and that she needed an abortion but couldn't afford it and didn't know where to go....So, I asked her HOW pregnant she was. she told me 7 months. So, I informed her that I thought she was too far along for an abortion and that it made sense for her to carry the baby to term and place it in adoption. Apparently, this upset her. She then decided to engage the college campus NOW chapter for support. I was branded a chauvenist, anti-women, anti-choice...whatever. I didn't really care. I consider myself a "feminist"...just not by their definition....I think I told her that no Physician would abort at that stage unless the life of the mother was at risk or in the case of severe deformity, etc. , apparently, she thought because I was a geek who presumably received very little female attention...that I'd do this for her, pay for it and get sex later. Weeks past and she got fatter and it appeared that nobody was able to help her with her predicament. At that point, she tried again with me, pleading the stories became more detailed and elaborate. I told her to leave me alone, have the baby..then I'd do what I could to help her get back on her feet. She screamed, hit me and threw things at me. Didn't hear from her for a few days...then one day my dorm room was broken into...books stolen, clothes stolen, light fixtures broken, completely trashed. I don't now how she gained access but my idiot room mate was known for leaving the door unlocked. I had a car on campus--the windows were broken, the tires slashed. The cops never believed that it was a pregnant Russian exchange student. She was not registered at the school. So, I had no recourse. I met up with her one time on the main drag near my Uni. Still preggers. She told me that she was going to have someone "seriously hurt me". Then I never heard from her again. Male stalker: I met this guy at work--tall Woody Allen type.. but gay, smart. He seemed in desperate need of a friend. We had lunch a few times --BIG MISTAKE. The guy stalked me relentlessly for 4 months . I had to take out a restraining order. The cops are not sympathetic with regard to gay stalkers. He was not violent--but very obsessive. He sent me gifts. Weird gifts....obscure books, music CDs (by artists I have never heard of...). He called me constantly and would hang up when I answered. Visited me at work (he was a consultant there untill he was fired abruptly...another long story). It all ended when I informed him about the restraining order. He was never angry--just odd, unpredictable..which made it more ominous. The pregnant women was actually less scary.

HI CK and TBD! It feels wonderful to have weekdays off! Less people around if I decide to go for a drive somewhere or even if I go shopping somewhere. TBD what kind of engineer are you, and are you happy with your choice? Also, I remember you commenting that you prefer "dudes". So are you gay? I don't mind if you are. I love gay men, they often have a sensitivity "chip" in them that many straight men seem to be lacking, not to mention a unique sense of humor and also can be so creative and just plain fun to be around.

Oh my.... both of your stories were quite scary. On two separate occasions, I had hitchhikers get in my car while stopped at a red light. One was hitching a ride in the opposite direction and jumped in the front seat. I was in Jersey City and I jumped out of my car and screamed at him. All the cars behind me honked and hollered at the guy until he got out. The second time 3 guys got into my back seat in my hometown wanting a ride uptown. I almost died... until one asked me if Steve was my brother, cause he thought I looked a lot like him. I felt somewhat better, since nobody would mess with me knowing my brother (the one who died).... The doors on that car did not always properly lock.... At my last job, someone I didn't know stalked me for about 1 1/2 years. We had to street park in a residental area. In the morning we'd wait for the homeowners to leave their spot: in the evening they'd wait for us to leave work so they could park. I'm leaving one night and assume this white van is waiting for me to leave my spot. I noticed my car was completely covered in bird poop! And I start laughing... you know that uncontrollable laughter you can get when you're alone and think of something funny? When I got to my car, I was still smiling and laughing and this guy in the van smiles at me and waves. Did he think I was smiling at HIM? I get in my car, and after more than several squirts of window washer, I make a u-turn and proceed home. I've got a habit of checking out what's going on behind me in my rear view mirror, and notice that guy in the white van is now behind me. Wasn't his car pointed in the opposite direction when I left work? He begins to make every turn I make? And I say to myself it's just a coincedence don't panic. As I get closer to my mom's home, we reach a fork in the road and he turns off. See it was all in my mind? Until I notice that he must of taken some side roads and his now once again behind me minus the red flannel shirt he was wearing. Was this a disguise? I decide not to go to my mom's cause I don't trust this guy - so I head up to my condo. And he's still following me. I pull into the parking lot to get some lotto tickets and he cruises by. I slide down in my seat to find the lotto tickets and see someone walk by my car - yep it's him again - he hadn't seen me. He goes to the convenience store, opens the door, looks around then scans the parking lot for my car. I hightailed it outta there and make it home. I called the cops and the officer says to me that I should be flattered!!!! About 20 minutes later, the cop called back to see if I was alright since he must of realized he could be in a lot of trouble. My one brother said, he probably just wanted to meet me. I think he worked for the cable company which was nearby my office. Every lunch we'd go out and he would just circle the building a dozen times or so - people would point at him and shout out "Hey Chirs - there goes your boyfriend" Male friends walked me to and from my car. He started to follow me when we went out to lunch. He'd sit at the counter and just stare, announce that he was leaving and that he'd see me real soon. He never did anything, but it was creepy. And he was extremely good looking - had we met under different circumstances I may have been interested. Nothing as criminal as your story - just creepy.

Stalker Stories! I have a couple. When I was in junior high in my home town an older guy started following me on the weekend when I would walk to the bowling alley where I had joined a summer morning league. He had learned my schedule and always tried to meet me a block away from my house so he could walk with me. He had major creep factor! I started dreading the weekend when I knew I had to deal with this again. I started leaving my house earlier and earlier to avoid him. Also, he found out I volunteered my time at the nursing home and so he started working there. I soon quit. He finally got the hint and left me alone. A few years back I had a phone stalker for two miserable years. I had met the guy with a group of friends, and found him to be lively, fun and interesting, so I thought. He asked me for my phone number and suggested we should all get together again. I was thinking he might make a great new friend and wasn't looking at him in a romantic way. BIG MISTAKE! He started calling constantly so I can only say thank God for caller ID. I wouldn't answer and he would leave creepy messages telling me he wanted to suck on my toes and be my slave! " He would do anything I wanted." C-R-E-E-P-Y! He started calling all hours of the day and night. I told him off a couple of times and to leave me alone then would immediately hang up not waiting for his reply. He kept it up anyway. Finally he called one time when I had a guy friend over who happened to have a pretty deep voice. He got on the phone with him and told him he would hunt him down and kill him if he didn't leave me alone. It worked! Haven't heard from him since! Needless to say I'm very careful now who I give my phone number to.

my new assistant stalked me all last weekend. i think she wants a pomotion to wife #2.

No epilepsy, but an inoperable brain aneurysm. If it bursts or they come up with another solution, I will go to my doctors at Columbia Presbyterian.

QuietStorm: I guess you don't give out your phone number anymore.... neil: since you'll be working at home this summer, will she be staying at the house? That could be complicated..... if you're not interested.

QuietStorm: Older men bothering young girls is CREEPY and NASTY! When I was 17, I worked in a local supermarket and the head butcher attempted to lock me in the meat locker with him. Yuk!!!! You know what's creepy too - more young boys than girls are kidnapped each year by perverts.

Is the aneurysm saccular? My dad was a VS and while he was not a NS, he dealt with aneurysm patients as well...though most were aortic, in nature. Have you consulted with a VS tool? While I am fairly healthy, I like being close to Columbia Presbyterian as well as Mass General. I think they can measure the size of the aneurysm periodically and check for increases. I'd stay close to a level 1 trauma center if I were you. The fact that you know the symptoms (I assume) and can recognize the warning signs will be helpful if that little bastard tries to burst out. QS: My B.S. degree is in Materials Science and Engineering. I also have a M.S. in CS--which is what I do now, sort of. My brother is the (chemical) engineer--maybe that is why you assumed I "engineered" for a living as well. While my educational background includes engineering--I work in Bio Tech specializing in Computational Biology. I don't mind you asking me about my sexual orientation--I have been with both men and women. When I was younger, it was exclusively women. Then I had a year long relationship with a dude and spent a few years dating guys. My most recent relationship was with a women, 11 years my senior. We were together for 4 months only--exclusively and seemingly constantly. She was someone with whom I could see myself having a long term relationship. But she dumped me for her X who resided overseas. I don't necessarily label myself as "bi-sexual" while many would assume so. I have a arty-like belief that human sexuality is in degrees...I cannot tell you how many straight women who love sleeping with men have told me that they do at times feel attracted to to other women. I know this does not mean ALL women feel this way. I think most self-proclaimed bisexual men I've met are really just gay--I am not. I think I am unusual in this, and many other, ways. I am happy to discuss this "theory" further if it interests anyone. So yeah, I like dudes, but not only dudes.

Hi Everyone... Neil, are you enjoying this attention she is giving you? Blurring the line between business and personal usually gets "sticky" somewhere down the road. Be careful as I know you will. TBD...very brave of you to open up like that about your sexuality. I am aware of the Kinsey Scale and personally believe most people fall somewhere in the 2 to 5 area instead of completely a 1 [completely heterosexual without so much as a fantasy about the same sex] or a 6 [completely gay]. I remember finding a Playboy magazine under my brothers mattress. I looked through it and remember thinking how beautiful these women looked, but with my lack of exposure to anything beyond seeing "normal" relationships in my small town, it didn't even occur to me to fantasize about women. One time years ago, I went out dancing with a friend. I was sitting people watching when a girl tapped me on the shoulder and asked if I had the time. When I turned around and looked at her I was mesmerized! She looked just like Jessica Simpson and to this day I wonder if that wasn't her. She didn't hit on me, but if she had I may have responded. There was a strong reaction in me that was just immediately attracted to her, and that is very rare because I consider myself heterosexual. I have had women hit on me and I always treat them with kindness and consider that the ultimate compliment.

CK....How did you escape that situation in the meat locker? Reading the story about the twins that were taken from Judy Chase and the human trafficking of children sure makes one wonder about all these children that come up missing. The numbers every year of missing kids is astounding. We don't really think about that happening here, but it makes you wonder. I'm sure we would all be shocked if it was all exposed.

Never thought about women that way. I'm sorry to say, I do not even like most women and find that most of them backstab their own gender at the workplace and with men. I thank God every day that I did not grow up in this time.... there is so much emphasis on looks, implants and being the perfect playboy bunny type - women made soooo many strides during the 70's, 80's and 90's only to end up being more of a sexual object than ever before. Of course this a generalization - but high school students getting breast implants for graduation? Sorry, I just don't get it. I do admit, that most of my friends have always been guys.... in high school, college and throughout my adulthood. I love working with most men and enjoy stimulating conversations that don't involve "going shopping at the mall". But it has been difficult keeping these friendships as "friendships".... at one time or another, many of my guy pals wanted it to be more - but I'd tell them we'd probably date a couple of times and never talk to each other again - I'd rather keep them in my life forever. I love smart, well-rounded guys with a sense of humor. I love guys who also find me smart, well-rounded and funny.

Oh my.... I do hope that I have not offended my gal pals here - for I do enjoy our varied conversations and topics - which at my job most of the women don't discuss especially politics... for example I work with a young girl in her twenties. Her sister was stationed in Iraq and just recently came home from service. I asked her how her sister felt about coming home and now finding herself on the new military "high risk" terrorist list - she didn't know what I was talking about....

There are folks that never even think of the same gender EVER in a sexual way. But because someone may, this does not mean that they are 'bisexual'. The degree might be '80% straight equates to heterosexual'....etc. I have always felt like I fall in love with the person, and the gender is secondary. I have to get inside someone's head before exploring a physical relationship. The meat locker maniac sounds like he could have been a potentially dangerous pervert. My sister once told me that in High School (this was the early 90's) she was propositioned by her lecherous history teacher. She was too embarrassed to tel my parents. I never understood that.

Hey CK...I know what you're talking about regarding women. There are some that are just too flaky and they can get on my nerves. I enjoy lunch with my gal pals but not shopping with them. I am not a big clothes horse. As long as I have a few nice outfits I'm happy. You are much more likely to find me in an art gallery or a bookstore. I definitely like shopping alone so i can linger or go at the pace I want. I like having both gal and guy pals. I probably laugh more with the girls, and have more serious and intelligent talks with the guys. It strikes a nice balance.

TBD...I agree with you when you say it's the person you fall in love with, not the gender. I always admired Angelina Jolie for saying " I love who I love and it's as simple as that." Love is a force of nature with no boundaries.

Yes, getting into someone's head can be more of a turn on then the actual physical side of a relationship. I was in a relationship with this really great looking guy for a while.... but there was "nothing" upstairs. And after a passionate night, there wasn't anything to talk about in the morning over coffee. I do agree that we love who we love.... and who can or needs to explain love?

TBD: I think many young people are embarrassed when someone older hits on them. Whether male or female, I think that somehow the victim feels like maybe somehow it was their fault in some absurd way. I never told my mother about anything...

My turn on button IS in my head. All the foreplay in the world will do nothing for me if I'm not turned on to the person mentally and emotionally and spiritually.

Did anyone ever watch that show Swing Town? I loved that show. It was so refreshing and different than anything else on TV and they were developing the characters with each show beautifully to where you begin to care about them. Not to mention it was the free and easy 70's...I wish they had brought it back the next season.

ck- Enough talk about all these guys stalking you or chasing you. You act like you were or are a young Farrah Fawcett still. You aren't even close so please stop already.

TBD: Your story about the consultant must have been a very difficult situation since he came to your office. Did he get fired for harrassing you? I would feel sooo violated if someone every broke into my place, touched and destroyed my stuff like that lady did. Rent is so high in NYC, so you are lucky with your arrangement. What do you do when you're in Massachusetts? Use a company suite or something?

tantra flower: You are absolutely correct... I am NOT beautiful, gorgeous, pretty or cute - not now - not ever. But I guess I could be considered attractive to some.... I think it's my personality, self-confidence and attidude - you know the way a person carries themselves. Oh my... I would have loved to have Farrah's beautiful hair.... And alas... the same old story, the one guy that I wanted to chase me, just didn't..... :( So are you into the whole "tantra" experience? That's some type of religion based on "sex worship", isn't it?

The stalker dude was a consultant with an accounting firm. He was dismissed because he pissed off the higher ups with accusation (this was the rumor at the time). He was an independent auditor-- which is required periodically for public companies. According to the gossip at the time, he was accusing some of the management of accounting irregularities--which was not only inappropriate--but inaccurate. I was a little spooked that he might be disgruntled enough over the summary dismissal to take it out on me. I think he had some social interaction issues as well. When he began his 'stalking'...he was already gone from my company. We had lunch a couple of times when he was still there (not because I was interested in him AT ALL--he just seemed lonely). So, I never complained to the company. I did tell some of my work mates about it and my boss at the time. This guy was seen as a real creep, nothing more. The police were unsympathetic. While I am slim, I am very tall, so they didn't really think that this guy posed much of a threat to me. In college when my dorm room was ransacked---I was upset that my books were stolen because they are EXPENSIVE! And I hated to have to go back to my parents for more money. In retrospect, I think she was so desperate and she was depending on me to help her. She may have sold my books for money, who knows. My company rents suites and 'long terms' for some of their employees. I am required to travel to different sites long term and they do not pay me enough to afford two places. The place I rent in NYC (not a suite--a condo) is in a superb neighborhood, but it is very small--only 500 sq ft. In Mass they give me a stipend for living expenses as I negotiated this. I rent a place with a friend that is much larger than I could otherwise afford. He is there 100% of the year, so he pays 2/3 of the rent. My company will only furnish us with one reimbursed unit. The stipend, while generous, does not cover my portion of the rent. I had a place a few years ago which I sold when I took this job...I owned it with my X, so, from that aspect it was time to move on too.

Hi Farrah (LOL),

The weird thing is, even though he was dismissed--he still showed up outside my work waiting for me. It was pathetic. The cops told me that he had every right to stand on a public way and they could not arrest him for that.

Owning property with someone means that your relationship must have been very serious.... Smart, savvy guys are considered very "hot" these days so I'm sure you have no problem meeting people. Slim, tall - like a mysterious Bowie? I love Bowie!!!!! He is so sexless and sooo sexy at the same time..... Is that the same property you said you sold in a previous post? My brother sold his condo in 2004 and made a nice profit - then the housing industry dropped - You really think property values will increase again in 2-3 years???

TBD: Yeah, there is very little that police can do in some of those situations. It is sad, but legally their hands are tied. I re-read the stalking stories, and both you and QS each had TWO stalkers... I had ONE stalker. LOL QuietStorm: I remember "swingtown"... were the 70's really that cheesy???? Yeah, I guess so. LOL

ck i'd stalked you. jk

Good Morning CK,TBD, and Neil! TBD, I'm curious...are you a papa..any kids? How tall are you, and do you resemble any celebs that can give us a mental picture of what you look like...just curious! Neil, you seem to be a guy of few words. Are you kind of ..the quiet type? I would love to hear more of you! And Ck..are you working today? This was suppose to be a day off for me, but I've been asked to come in for 4 hours from 4pm to 8pm. Isn't it funny to look back at the 70's now! What comes to mind is the Viet Nam war which my brother was a part of, disco, the BeeGees, John Travolta, polyester leisure suits, lots of sex and drugs! Luckily for me, my mom had me so paranoid of drugs I steered clear of those. She told me constantly that marijuana would lead to heroin! Over all, the 70's were the best time of my life. I was fresh out of high school and moved to a college town [ Ft. Collins] where life held lots of new and happy experiences, lots of dating good looking guys, dancing, and absolutely every dream I had seemed possible and attainable. Sometimes I wish I could go back and live it again!

Neil...would you stalk me too? What is jk?

neil: Please don't creep me out.... besides you are waaaaaay too young for me. LOL QuietStorm: We are sooo slow here on Fridays it makes the day just drag on forever. I think TBD has break and lunch around the same time as I do - cause that's when I usually see his posts. We use to be so busy - start at 7 work till 8. Saturdays we'd often work 5am till 3pm. I didn't know if I was coming or going. I never made it to school functions for my kid - because we didn't have a choice whether to work the OT or not - it was mandatory - work it or lose your job. Could never call in sick either.... I was married by the early seventies and never had so much freedom in my life. My mom was strict and scared me to death when it came to drugs - so it was not my scene. I wasn't into disco, but I did manage to see the BeeGees before Saturday Day Night Live and all their disco music. Barry Gibb was the most sexy, beautiful guy alive. We'd all go to this small venue for concerts - it had been an old movie house. It was a dump, in a seedy town but the best place to see groups up close and personal. For a while, we were going just about every weekend. Those were some of the best times of my life and some great memories. Guess you have to take the hours when you need them. Most of us do.

just kidding. and yes, you sound like a beautiful person.

CK...now that I'm going down memory lane..I'm realizing that I'm mixing the 80's stuff into the 70's. BeeGees and leisure suits were all in the 80's. I remember now that Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young and The Moody Blues ruled the air waves in the 70's. Man that was good music back then and it so fit the times and happenings. I have that C,S,N, &Y song "Wooden Ships" playing in my head right now! Love that song! When disco hit, I was living in Denver and working at an animal shelter. I remember my girlfriend and I went shopping and fell in love with this gorgeous green dress. We both bought the same dress since they had it in her size and mine. We decided to dress alike and go disco dancing! We were having lots of fun until one particular guy started pestering us. She was a quick wit and decided to grab my hand and told the guy "Look, we're lesbians!" I said nothing. He looked at us and said, "Well I'll pay you if I can just watch!" Oh MY GOD! We knew then it was time to leave! So we did and we went to another disco and resumed our fun! Those were the days!

Saturday Day Night Live ???? Glad you knew what I meant. LOLOLOLOL Disco was mid to late 70's and spilled over to very early 80's. My friend's boyfriend was in a band and dragged me to hear them play "Rock The Boat" and other tunes like that - had to be 1974 or 1975. I swore I'd never wear plantform shoes - and hated to give them up. The use to have "BeeGee Free" Weekends on the radio. Yes, they were fun days! 80's were C&W (Urban Cowboy), Big Hair Bands, and lots of Glam!!! Big shoulder pads, tight, tight jeans or spandex, with 5 inches spikes! Yikes!!

Ck...thanks with the timeline help! You have a better memory than I do. It all just melted together in my head as one really good time to be alive!

Well...there are a few things I must do before I get ready for work so I need to sign off for now. I work tomorrow from 10am to 4pm as well so I'm not sure when I'll check in. If I'm not too tired this evening ...till then..

QS: The only reason I remember is that I couldn't find any real rock music anywhere.... it was basically all mellow America, Eagles, Dan Fogelberg, Dave Mason stuff. That's when I found Southern Rock - cause it had some "kick" to it. Bruce Springstein and John Fogerty were both under some contractual stuff and couldn't record for awhile. But then we did get MeatLoaf and Warren Zevon later in the decade. TBD: I know you said what you did at work - but I don't know what that involves.... Computational Biology??? I also didn't quite understand your reference about "most self-proclaimed bisexual men I've met are really just gay" but after some thought, I think I do get what you meant - and I would agree with you. Like Bowie could be "bi-sexual" and Sir Elton (even though he married for a short time to pro-create) is gay?

The condo I owned in Cambridge was purchased with my ex-bf. We did it solely as a financial deal considering tax benefits. We bought it, however, with a co habitation arrangement in mind. I never expected the relationship to last as long as it did. We lived there together for nearly a year and when we split, I stayed and he moved to another property he owned. I remained there for a couple of years and paid him rent for his portion. The purchase/deed was structured as a 'joint tenancy' as opposed to 'tenants by the entirety' as I never imagined that we would give each other full ownership should one of us die. It was not a 'marriage' or a relationship of a serious caliber. The business side of our relationship worked very well. QS: I am 6'1". Well, as far as my physical appearance...My mother is Taiwanese and my father was English and of German Decent. Some people find the Oriental/caucasian hybrid appealing, others do not. It depends on your taste. I can't say I look like any actors you may know unless you know any caucasian/oriental actors. My mother told me when I was younger that her friends thought I resembled a certain Filipino soap actor. Wish I could remember his name. Many do not guess my ethnicity when they first meet me. I have lighter hair for a 1/2 Asian (medium brown, as my father was blond), I am very tall for an oriental (thanks, Dad!) and my features are not necessarily Asian. My eyes are larger than the average full-bred Taiwanese, but are still more 'Oriental' than caucasian in shape. When I tell people that my mother is Taiwanese, they usually say "Oh, of course"! I am high energy so I work out a lot. I think this has helped me maintain a good physique for my age. I am slim which I appreciate now, but hated as a kid/teen. I had to drink these special high-caloric 'milk shakes' as a child to gain weight. Now, at 37, I am happy that I have the metabolism that I do. I have a web site with my photo..I just don't feel comfortable posting it here yet; besides, I don't want to make neil jealous, lol! or "jk" as the case may be. I have no children and do not plan to. I suppose if I met someone (male or female) who was important to me and they had to have children, I'd consider it. The last women I dated with whom I was very smitten, was past child bearing age so it would not have been an issue had our relationship endured. She also had no children from her prior marriage. She assumed that I would dump her for another women closer to my age--- We were VERY serious for a short time--but she was the one who did the dumping!

ck, I don't think property values will increase to their highs in 3-4 years, but I think that they will be past the bottom and probably rise from where they are right now. If you plan to recoup the "paper losses" from the high (your property's highest value), then it will be much longer than that. Selling now will ensure that you suffer a loss. In my occupation, I am working on Genome development, among other things.. I am not a Biologist, but a Computer Scientist. Computational Biology field is specialized and deals with statistics, math and CS. While I am not in academia now, my job is mostly research based. Most people in Computational Bio use computers and mathematical modeling to address Biological problems: Cancer, Genetic research, etc.

WOW TBD - I would feel extremely intimidated having coffee with you in the morning - I'd have to do research just to keep up with you - and I'm not just kissing butt - math and science is not my thing so I am impressed. Seriously, I just heard on the news today that they found they can produce sperm from stem cells. And while they cannot produce "eggs" for the infertile female, they found that somehow in the XX factor - they could also produce sperm in the female. But you probably already knew that. We have several Asian/Caucasian families in our town, and I must say their the children ARE beautiful. I always thought Cliff Richards (from England) was extremely handsome and that he might be of mixed heritage - not sure what though - perhaps Asian or East Indian? Do you or Nie know? Of course this is my own generalization, but I often find that two extremely, beautiful and/or cute caucasians do not have beautiful children - they sometimes look like "charactertures" of their parents..... too many "beautiful" genes at once - almost like beautiful inbreeding gone crazy - while average looking people have better looking children. "Cute" does not age well... take John Davidson for example.

Me? Intimidating? Naaahh...I only sound smart when discussing programming and tech garbage. I don't feel like a particularly intelligent person--perhaps because my parents were both physicians--mom a neonatologist and Dad was a Vascular Surgeon. My sister is the brains in our family and she studied Linguistics and is in the Anthropological Linguistics field. She is the smarter of my parent's progeny and did not pursue science or math or engineering. I do not know who John Davidson is. Is he before my time? I assumed from your writing style and recollection of past pop culture events that we were around the same age. But I do not know who John Davidson is---or Cliff Richards!

Oh to be around your age again... I do have considerable number of years on you - but like QS come from a good gene pool and look younger. Cliff Richards is this English icon (sorta like our Elvis) from the 60's who lost popularity when the Beatles came but is still considered an British treasure and may even perform today. John Davidson was that all American "cute" rahrah preppy "gosh darn" singer (a male version of the earlier Kathy Lee Gifford) - who later hosted a few game shows - I think he did Hollywood Squares at one time for a short while. Are you in Massachussetts for the weekend?

I stand corrected... it's Cliff Richard - no "s" and he is still touring after all these years at 68! And he is Anglo-Indian. I keep forgetting that all this info is available on internet...

QuietStorm: My son was watching Ghost Adventures - a new episode at the Eastern State Penitentiary - and I have such anxiety from watching it.

TBD...I thank you for all your personal information. BOY..did I have you pegged wrong! In the past when you were creating a bit of "chaos" on the board attacking CK and giving her heck, I thought for sure you were just some punk high school kid having your fun by stirring up trouble! You are so NOT that! You are so totally opposite that now! Why didn't you share yourself with us sooner instead of being so ornery? LOL You have done well for yourself and I would love to know more about you. What kind of hobbies or interests do you have outside of work? And why on earth would a woman dump you? What would you say your faults are? Be honest!

Hi CK...It is already 11pm here, so I don't know if you're still up or not. I need to do a few things and then get to bed pretty soon as I will need to leave my house at 9am tomorrow morning. I'll check back here in a few minutes to see if you're around. Anyone else still up?

I'm just checking in to see if you posted. I'm going to bed - have an early morning appt. with the math tutor. You and TBD coulda helped..... Are you working Sat.? What hours? I'm off so I'll check back around mid afternoon. They're running that Ghost Adventures all night in repeats. It spooked me.

Hi CK..just got my kitchen cleaned up, and got myself ready for bed. I'm glad you told me Ghost Adventures is still on. I just turned over and you're right. That Zac guy, I'm enjoying more and more. It's kind of like watching high school guys freaking out! If I was there I would have a death grip on Zac's very muscular arm. You would need a crow bar to pry my frightened little fingers off of him. And yes, I work tomorrow from 10am to 4pm. Should get home around 5pm. I am having to travel further now for the same job. Also scheduled now to work Sunday 11am to 5pm, and there is a possibility Monday will be added to my schedule if another guy can't make it. OOH! I'm watching that Eastern State Pen episode. Hearing the voices and noises is scary, but what would freak me the most is hearing foot steps coming toward me! That actually happened to me and a guy along a highway roadside one night about 5 miles outside of my home town. We were just driving around talking when we needed a pit stop, so we just pulled over to the shoulder so one of us could pee. We both got out and shut off the car. I remember us looking up at the night time sky to look at the stars when we started to hear footsteps coming towards us getting louder and louder, but we couldn't see anyone! It was a moonless night and very dark out but still....we should have been able to make out an outline or something! But nothing! We freaked and got the bajeebies out of there. I'm sure we left tire marks! I'm glad a guy was with me. If I had been alone, I probably would have fainted and "IT" would have gotten me! Well, I guess it's time to shut down my computer and get some rest. Sweet Dreams to everyone!

QS: Oh my, I suprised the car started - or that the keys didn't drop and you couldn't find them - like in a movie cause it sounds like a horror story!!!! I hope you checked the backseat of the car before getting in! I usually don't find Ghost Adventures scary, but that vocal recording of "I see God.... God" and "hungry" freaked me out! And I didn't know there was a difference between a residual ghost and intellegent ghost. TBD and neil are probably laughing at us right now.... Jesthena has been very quite, Nie and TLC have been gone too long.... maybe they are not coming back. Gotta get my kid up (this outta be fun) and get ready to head on outta here for math! By the time you get back 5pm - it's 7pm here. TBD is probably "out" for the weekend and neil with his kids. I'll catch up with you later sometime.

boo! i love the stories. keep them coming. the weather here has been beautiful. lots of swimming, miniature golf, walks on the beach with my kids - not my assistant. sent her back to nyc to tend to the office. i've decided to file for sole custody with visitation rights. this joint custody isn't working out. my kids are shuffled all over the place and their mother splits whenever a better offer comes around. like the 4th of july, in the end she chose bermuda with friends over disney with the kids. not to mention, she put my kids on a plane by themselves back to jersey. i hope she remarries soon before i'm broke.

ck - sorry, i didn't mean to creep you out. i thought you liked younger guys. anyway, you're still invited to come down here anytime you want and bring your son. i'm sure he'd have a great time out on the boat.

CK - Cliff Richard is my Mom's favorite singer. I went to his concerts twice and thought I was the youngest among the audience. HELLO EVERYONE. Just dropping by and got to run. Bed time... sweet dreams!

Nie: I can't believe I missed you! I also can't believe that you actually SAW Cliff Richard! He is old and I'm sure most of his fans are older than you! This is too funny! Did you see him in HK or England? I saw him on tv when I was very little - on the old Ed Sullivan shows. Once the Beatles came, he sorta died out - and he never had any big hits here until I think the eighties - "We Don't Talk Anymore" and one other song. But he was always in the teen mags like Tiger Beat because he was from England! We loved everything English back then..... On one website, I found a album listing and he co-wrote a song with Brian May - I'd like to hear it since Cliff is more of a "pop" artist and sang songs my mother would like... LOL. You better come back after your nap! I missed you!

neil: Your invite is rather sweet, but I will have to pass for the time being - I'm not into that long trip to LBI area and don't be offended.... I really don't know you. Did I mention that my son has a Black Belt in Karate? LOL Anyway, I'm sure you must have a pretty full schedule with your kids and work. Are your children little "swim" babies???

Hi Everybody..I'm Home! Welcome back NIE! You have been missed! What's new with you? Neil...Good Luck with the custody fight! I would never put a child as young as yours on a plane by themselves. Were they scared? I remember being scared when I was 5 years old that I would get on the wrong school bus and get taken somewhere strange and the fear I would either get in trouble for it, or that I might not ever see my parents again. CK...have you decided on public school then?

Neil...also meant to ask you if you're paying alimony on top of child support? If so, I fear she won't marry until that is suppose to end. She will just live with someone till it ends. Does she work or bring any money in on her own?

QS: Hi!!!!! How was work? Hoping to decide by Monday on a school - whatever the decision he'll still need a math tutor. But everything would out much better than I could ever have imagined. I used this tutor a couple of years ago and she is very kind. Her son (some math genius at Harvard) is home and will tutor for much less - so my son could attend for twice a week for approx. the same cost. I am very happy how things worked out - and very grateful. It was nice having Nie stop by - I had a feeling Nie would know Cliff Richard... I had the dates wrong - his US songs were 1979 and he didn't write with Brian May. May played at a birthday celebration with him at party for the queen. Weather was beautiful here today!!!!!! How by you?

Hi CK....it was HOT HOT HOT here! In the 90's somewhere. I was indoors all day except to walk to and from my car. I thought I got enough rest but felt tired all day so of course it seemed like the day drug on and on. Good day but long day! I laid down on my couch to relax and watch a little TV and ended up sleeping for 2 hours, I just woke up! Now I hope that won't interfere with a good night sleep tonight. I work tomorrow 11am to 5pm, haven't heard yet if they need me Monday, but I work Tues. noon to 8pm. I have a good lead on a company that services AT&T [ of all companies LOL, remember the Idol controversy] and it is very near my home being within 2 miles. They are hiring and the pay is decent with good benefits. It is a call center with incoming calls. I'm currently working with the brother of the manager of this place so he said he could put in a good word for me to his brother if I want to work there. I'm still deciding if I want to do that, somehow I'm not thrilled at the idea of a headphone fused to my head all day, but certainly like the idea that work is close to home. Right now, I like what I'm doing so until this comes to an end I'm going to see this through.

Did you hear that they have Michael Jackson stored in a family crypt that belongs to Barry Gordy, until they get the rest of his brain back and they can figure out where to put him. Joe Jackson said they will try for a permit to put him at Neverland, but I guess his wife Catherine is dead set against it believing Michael wouldn't want to be there since the invasion of all the police tainted the place. I still think he belongs there, and they might as well turn it into a Graceland to support their families including Michael's kids. It would just seem really odd to me to stick him in a cemetery. I would be worried about a body snatching! There are weirdos out there that would think of doing that. What do you think? And what is your favorite Jackson song? I absolutely love and my favorite by a long shot is "Human Nature".

Have you ever been driving alone late at night and you suddenly get this feeling that you are not alone! A feeling that someone or something is sitting in your backseat? That has happened at least 2 or 3 times to me. I know it is likely imagination running wild, but still... When I lived in Denver I went to a party on the other side of the city. I met a guy there that claimed to me that he was psychic and that he could also astral project [ in other words let his spirit travel at will]. He started telling me some things about myself that I have no idea how he could have known, personal things, and things that described me to a "T". I was trying to decide if I liked this guy or not, because the more he told me, the more I kind of started to fear him. It was almost like someone undressing you. I finally decided I was feeling uneasy with him and decided it was time to get up and mingle. The last thing he told me was, "I'll be with you on your trip home, look in your backseat!" At that moment I thought "Yeah, right", didn't really believe him and thought he was just trying to put that in my head. Well, I had at least a 45 minute drive ahead of me to get home. I'm driving along and suddenly that feeling comes over me, I'm not alone! I immediately look in my rear view mirror and I would swear I saw the outline of that guy sitting in the middle of the back seat! Swear to God! I tried to swing around to have a look while driving and of course was unable to see the entire seat so I look again in the mirror and he was gone, but not the feeling. It still felt like he was in there with me! My heart was pounding and I started talking to myself out loud "Calm down, Calm down, It Isn't Real! I was so glad when I got home, I turned on every light in my apartment.

QS: You certainly have met some strange characters! And yes, I would have been spooked in the car.... I always check the back seat before getting in - especially at night. I like the early Jacksons - probably "I Want You Back". Out of MJ's stuff maybe "Dirty Diana" (didn't get that much air-play) or "Man in the Mirror". AT&T sounds like a good opportunity - it's close (less time travelling and less $$$ for gas) and you might be able to move up in the company. You might even have more of "normal" work schedule. And benefits are very important. As a temp, you probably don't get benefits. Think about it - I'm sure you'll do what's right for you. Later.

ewww! tbd, douce bag guy, it is gross to say stuff here about your homo sex life. who wants to read that? I like you better when you were the douce guy. and you are bisexual in case you were confused. you must be an adam fan. lol

CK - Yes Cliff Richard is OLD and I can't believe he's still going to tour the UK this summer... The concerts I went to were held in HK. My Mom knows people from the fan club and got the best seats. But I was like "why would I want to see the lines on his forehead" and went for cheaper seats far back. I have a few songs of his on my ipod and my favorite is "I Will Not Be A Mistake." QS - Thanks for your warm welcome! We were having lots of sunshine so I went out a lot which left me with less time for internet. It's real hot over here as well. And with the humidity it's like walking in a sauna room every time I go out :S

NIE- hey!! Long time no post. How's life been treating you lately? Sorry for not posting for a while. I was having internet trouble.

Nie you are just too funny with the lines on his forehead!!!! Your mom must be cute (does she dance in her seat?) and she belongs to his fan club? This is all just too precious! I found a video with May and he's all serious guitar playing while Cliff is bee-bopping to a 1958 hit! LOL The camera never zoomed in close to his face so he looked pretty good to me for his age.... and he danced all over the place - up and down the stage - not bad for 66 or something like that.... You are very sweet to go with your mother. Sorry, I can't remember if you already talked about this... do you have any other siblings? I didn't know it was that humid in HK. Are you enjoying your time off?

Jesthena - I hope your computer didn't get all messed up! Was the trouble with your service? How have you been?

Ashley....What you posted was very uncool and small minded, not to mention mean spirited. Everybody here plays nice and we all get along. You are welcome here if you change your attitude, surely there is a nice side to you, and you should be smart enough and big enough not to judge someone on their sexuality when that is nothing more than a tiny fraction of the make up of a whole human being, so drop the homophobia and come out of the dark ages and into the Light. Be nice or pick another chat room!

hi quietstorm. how did your day go? beautiful day here. i am currently paying alimony and child support. but if i get full custody, she'll have to reduce the size of her living accommodations and pay for it out of the alimony. she'll also have to eliminate more than half of the household staff which i paid for to make sure my children are well taken care of while in her care. it's not all about money, but about my children's best interest. thanks for asking.

neil: I guess you were very lucky that she didn't take the children out of the country.... that would only complicate the situation even more. I'm sure this isn't easy for you, but I am happy that you are dedicated to doing the right thing for the children. You and I are okay with each other, right?

yeah, we're cool ck. but there are a lot of people here most of the time including my kids. it's not like coming here would be threatening in any way. maybe another time.

Hi Neil and CK! My day was good and with a little luck I will have tomorrow off. I always have to check my email where I will be informed in the morning if there are any changes in my schedule. If you don't mind me asking one more personal question Neil, how long do you have to pay her alimony? Surely not the rest of her life! Maybe your lawyer can get the time reduced. CK...how was your day? Did you see on the news that horrible fire that killed hundreds of thousands of chickens at that factory farm in Texas? Those poor birds! The panic and fright they suffered I can't even imagine. I haven't heard anything about what caused it, have you heard anything about the cause? I feel so sorry for any animals raised on factory farms, they suffer greatly and they pump them full of growth hormones that we in turn take into our own bodies when we eat them. Pretty sick and that is partially why kids are maturing faster.

QS: What's happening to our food supply is horrible! There are hormones in just about everything. That's one of the reason I tried the QVC steaks - and they are delicious and approved by the American Hear Assoc. The news can be very discouraging, can't it.... Look at what's going on at the cemetery in Chicago?? I feel so bad for those families. Seems like we can't get on the same schedule these days. Later....

CK...I worry about the explosion going on in the human population. There are pregnant women and 2 or 3 tiny kids in tow everywhere I look around here. We want to control the populations of every species on earth, knowing that is the best way to insure there won't be famine or disease outbreaks in their populations. Aren't we smart enough to realize a tipping point is fast approaching when the planet cannot keep up with how fast we are consuming its resources. The top scientists and think tanks are warning us that wars will soon be fought over dwindling fresh water supplies. On top of that, the more people we have on the planet.. the more aggression and wars will break out.. more disease and plagues..more famine...more natural disasters as we strip and rape mother earth of her delicate balance of resources such as the rain forests and water supplies needed for animal populations as well as human needs. Our oceans are badly polluted from years of toxic waste dumping and over fishing is stripping the ocean faster than it can replenish itself. Our world leaders don't even talk about this ticking time bomb because they're afraid of stepping on delicate religious toes which certainly are part of the problem. Nobody wants to be told how many kids they can have, but if we don't start thinking about a social responsibility to limit our family size, then I shutter to think what the consequences will be for all of life on this planet.

QS: Funny you should mention population control. Rather than go to Barnes and Noble or Borders, there was a little book store a town over from us. The gentleman who owned it was great for recommending reading material that my son would enjoy. He suggested the "Shadow Children" series which was about a world with population control limiting families to 2 children per household. The series is written from the 3rd "hidden" child's point of view. It was a very interesting concept with "shadow children" undercover all over the country and their dilemmas in struggling for survival. I have noticed many younger women with 2-3 kids myself lately - unlike my generation who waited, and waited and waited. I do feel very badly that my son has no brothers or sisters. My brothers were always my best friends and I cannot imagine my life without them. My son use to beg for a baby brother. He will be alone after I'm gone, without any immediate family until he marries. I had my mother most of my adult life..... aside from that, I use to feel pretty much the way you do until recently - I read an article about the 50 million abortions in our country since 1973 and the direct affect it is having on our current economy and work force - not to mention the brilliant minds that we have lost. Once a society ceases to grow and expand, they begin to crumble. However, I do think our government will take care of this over-population thing - I read that scientists have already mutated corn with a contraceptive. Once out in the public, who knows what will happen.... And when you were growing up, do you remember hearing about all of this infertility stuff? Almost everyone has an infertility problem these days.... all my mother's friends didn't have these problems.... makes you wonder...

I am feeling incredibly "blue" and sad today. It started last night.... I hate this feeling.

TBD: Growing up with incredibly brilliant parents, did you feel pressured to suceeed academically?

CK- no it wasn't a problem with my service, it was a problem with the router, it was broken and i needed it replaced and now my internet is fine :)

Jes: A month ago, I had trouble with the internet. I called Verizon and spent about 3 hours on the phone checking this, and checking that. Then the tech told me they were going to order me a new router and put me on hold. When she came back, she said her supervisor just told her all service was down in my area in NJ so it wasn't the router. What a waste of my time - they should have had that information on their system.

Glad I checked in this morning. I need to run back and read all of the posts from last Friday on to catch up. I only skimmed a little, but just enough to see ashley's comment addressed to me. ashley..I do not recall writing about any homo-erotic experiences on this board, but please alert me of my offenses s so we all have a better understanding. Was anyone else offended? Obviously QS was not. I was much more tame than usual with my responses to QS' inquiries so consider yourself lucky that you were not exposed to more salacious details. I honestly and candidly answered questions that were addressed to me and was fine with doing so. I won't pretend to care what your opinion is, because I do not...I won't defend my lifestyle and my orientation because I have no desire or reason to. If you feel very strongly about this, by all means...go light a candle for me. ck: I would be lying if I stated that I felt no pressure to achieve growing up. While I would not describe either of my parents as "incredibly brilliant", they were both successful in their careers. My dad was probably more aloof than mom, but as a child I knew I had to perform to expectation or my father would be displeased. My mother came from a culture that not only prioritized education, but demanded strong academic achievement. We were all forced to play either the violin, cello or piano from about age 4. I now hate the piano. We always resided in the 'wealthier' communites with highly lauded school districts. We led very regimented, organized lives, even though we had two working parents. This was probably good for my brother who has Aspergers', but my sister and I often felt stifled and burdened by high expectation. When I decided not to apply to Med School after college (I felt it was doubtful that I would have gained acceptance anyway...), my mother literally cried. It was unspoken, but understood and expected. My mother emigrated from Tawain as a very young woman and with her she brought her cultural experience expectations...which when compared to the American upbringing, were very high.

CK- wow that is really annoying. I would hate that. I had an experience kind of like that with my tv. I couldn't get certain channels, and i thought they accidentally cut my plan, so i called and they said they would che4ck into it, and i was on hold for almost 2 hours talking to a few operators in between and then it turned out that one of the satelites was broken or something like that i can't rememeber.
TBD- so what do you think you will change your name to? Since you have ignored any ideas or inquiries i have had.

Thanks for your insights TBD. I do understand the cultural expectations, since one can only look around the world and see how other countries hold education in the most highest regard - something until recently, I don't think Americans have placed such a great value on. I am still on the fence about the private school (all boys) vs. public school - my son is extremely bright (I wouldn't say brilliant) but lazy lately - private school IS more demanding and forces him to work, however I do want him to experience the whole "high school" package which is more accessable at public school. My kid didn't really know any special girls well enough to invite to the spring semi-formal dance.... I am really confused and appreciate that you shared your experiences. As a parent, I never know what is "too much", and what is "too little". I know I won't be here as a safety net for much longer, so he's got to be able to stand on his own and make it in this world. Would you have become as successful had your parents not expected you too? I wasn't offended by your lifestyle - ashley just wanted to start trouble. But we've got your back.

Hello Jesthena, nice seeing you again! What a lovely new name!! CK - I was too far away to see if my Mom danced or not... but I'd bet she did! No she doesn't belong to the fan club but she knows a few people there and it comes in handy when she needs good tickets. To be honest the concerts were enjoyable, so I didn't just go for my Mom. She went to Il Divo's concert and a few soccer matches with me too. We have similar interests and taste. No I have no siblings. When I was little Mom asked if I wanted one and I guess I said something like yes if I could have a bigger brother/sister no if I should have a younger one. And of course that meant no lol.

Good Morning Everyone! I got the call this morning they want me to come into work, noon to 8pm ! I wish I could have gotten that notice yesterday. I woke up excited that I had a day off, now I've got to get my mind in "work mode". I work tomorrow too, but should have Wed. off. CK....sorry you're feeling sad and not so good today. I hope it gets better for you! Are you working today? If so, go home if it gets worse for you. I certainly know that feeling you're talking about. Try to think of something you can do to make yourself feel better... maybe a warm bath or watching a good movie, something to lift your spirit! I hope everyone else is having a happy good day! I need to eat some breakfast and get ready for work, so gotta go for now...

Nie - are you really into soccer - or the "men" who play soccer???? LOL Hope you don't mind, but do you speak English at home or only in the UK? I was wondering that since you are in England a great deal of the time, do you sound like a Brit?? I love those little British accents... they can say anything and everything (like tell you where to go) and it still sounds so darn cute!!!!

QuietStorm - thanks for the pep talk! Sounds like a good idea, but I'll stick it out and make it through the day. I guess I'm just experiencing how you felt two weeks ago - MJ needs to buried somewhere very private, for sure. Have a good day at work.

Oh, where to begin?? I've been catching up on the weekend psosts. Let's see...Jesthena (LOVE the name!). Please remind me of your name suggestions for me--I'm a pretty fast reader, but sometimes I skim over posts so I may have missed your suggestions. QS: Allow me to respond to your queries the best I can. I love how you referred to me as "ornery". The first time someone called me that (And there have been many references, I am sorry to admit) was in 8th grade. Susan Shapiro informed me that I was "ornery"..I thought she said that I was "horny" and I couldn't believe it! I couldn't figure out how she knew that I was horny. I realized later that she meant the latter when she repeated her statement ..."you are so OR-NER-Y" . It all began to make sense. QS: you do realize that some of the posts under the former D.B. were not mine, correct? Okay, I admit that many were from me, but not all of them. Most markedly, the ones with very poor grammar belong to another D.B. poster...not sure who. I will admit to penning most of them. QS: you ask me what faults I have. I admit to having many deficits. Mainly, I am not good at making small talk. I refuse to make small talk and it has probably costs me a promotion or two. But, that's okay, because I think I woldl be an awful Department Head, boss. I am compulsively neat (my only stereotypical "gay" trait, even though I am not gay) to the point that my clothing is always perfectly pressed and I am teased about this at work. I have everything dry cleaned. I am organized to a fault; I detest disorder; I am picky and have very high standards and high expectations of others, sometimes unrealistic...or so I've been told. I can be brutally honest--which turns many people off. I am intolerant of people who are not as intelligent--not somebody who has a learning disability or a cognitive handicap--but some one who does not take their job seriously enough to be prepared for meetings, training sessions, etc. Someone who still does not "get it" despite their educational background. People do not warm up to me at first, but usually I end up being friends with most people to whom i spend a good deal of time. I am obsessed with personal grooming and hygiene (oops--another "gay" trait--ashley must be loving this). I understand that different cultures do not pay the same attention to grooming/hygiene and I accept this in others. I tend to be very sarcastic--though I have improved with age. I make a bad first impression and at work, this is a running joke with the staff. When we have a new hire --they always wait until the person's final day of training to introduce them to my department. I think they have a fear that I will scare them off. I cannot tell you how many people, months, years later tell me that they thought I was such a jerk until they got to know me. Many of them are my good friends now. I am not proud of this. So, I am not a perfect catch by any measure, but I do have my god points too--Oh..another thing...while I am a very loyal friend, I have serious commitment issues. SO, you are probably no longer confused as to why a woman would dump me. In the case of my recent gf, she never felt that comfortable with me. She felt that I would leave her for a woman (or a man) who was younger. I think it was her own insecurity. She had a long term, ex-bf living in Europe who desperately wanted to reunite. She was on the fence and then decided that it was more of a sure thing. While I wanted her to be happy and I cannot fault her for leaving, I do really miss her. In retrospect, I think she wanted me to talk her out of leaving, but I am not like that. So, I have been dumped several times, but have probably been the "dumper" just as, or more, often.

QS, Population explosion concerns me greatly as well. Unfortunately, populations have a way of controlling themselves through famine and disease. People freak out when you discuss limiting family size--like you have said something blasphemous. ck, your son sounds like a great kid. If he is smart, I would guess that a good private school environment might better suit him. I've been in both private and public schools as a child. The public schools are great for academically average kids who are athletic and popular. Not great for a kid like me. The parents at the private schools seemed to be more committed to education--which transfers to the child. I don't think I would have pursued the field that I did without strong parental encouragement--and I like what I do and am very happy. The strong emphasis on academics in my home allowed me to discover what I really loved. Above everything else, a child needs to know that they are loved and accepted by their parent (or parents, as the case may be). No matter how much my mother pushed me or how unrealistic her expectations may have, at times, been... I always knew that no matter what, she loved me unconditionally. This helped me though some very rough times as a teen and young adult.

Oh, and my mother always said that the best gift you can give your child is an education. This is so true.....nobody can take it away.

TBD - Thanks for your input. I did decide this morning on private over public - for a few reasons. I called the private school and told them I need an algebra book for summer tutoring and got a response within 1/2 hour with not one, but two books (one so the tutor can prepare lessons) from the school dean. Public school gave me a packet to review and no tour of the school. The earliest we can speak to a guidance couselor or see the school is during the last two weeks of August. Lastly, if something happens to me over the next 3 years (which IS possible with my condition), my son will live with my brother and will not be able to continue in public anyway. There is bus pick up all over the county for the private school and he could graduate with his class.

QS: My hobbies include music (classical, modern jazz, classical jazz, rock) . I studied classical piano for many years but don't play anymore--but I love to listen to the great masters live (well, they are all dead--but their music is performed live!). Reading, biking and sailing are among my other hobbies. I love to eat--which is a hobby if you enjoy experiencing different cultural cuisine. Now I think I have answered all of your queries. Whew! I better not take off for the weekend anymore.

You were horny because most eight graders ARE horny! LOL By the way, my kid doesn't leave the house unless there's the sharpest, straightest crease in his dress pants and a crisp shirt on his back (uniform). My mother always checked out the shine on a guy's shoes - she said you could tell a lot by the shine. But isn't that part of being "metro" and not just a gay thing? I am fiercely loyal and I'm have been disappointed at times when my "friends" were not as loyal or there for me when I needed them. My brothers have always been my best friends as well as siblings probably because our household was dysfunctional at times and we really teamed up for surrvival. I am very opinionated and can be extremely honest... I do not lie and always felt guilty "withholding" information from my mother when she asked. My brother (who died) would tell me something bad he did, knowing eventually I would tell my mother and he wouldn't have to deal with it by telling her himself. I am considered strong and independent, and as a result I probably attract weaker guys looking for someone to tell them what to do or can't find solutions for themselves. I hate when people tell me what they think I'd like to hear, rather than tell me their honest opinion. I do love a sarcastic sense of humor which attracted me to my son's father. However over the years, the sarcasm is more of a pessimistic negativity about his life in general - as if he didn't have any choices about whatever ails him - the rest of the world is to blame - and I don't buy into that. No I didn't marry him - I don't think I could take that woe is me attitude.

CK...please tell me that you saw The Bachelorette tonight! Since I had to work I missed a good half hour of it, and of course as my luck would have it, it was the date with Ed and therefore the infamous fantasy suite scene. What happened? I know it all went well with Reid, and I was in total shock when she sent him home. Also, how are you feeling? Did the day get better for you?

Hi TBD.....You are absolutely amazing! You are unique! You are so brutally honest about yourself that I am almost speechless! Not too many people would be willing to bare all like that and you know yourself so well and are not afraid to face your own faults. That takes courage as I believe most people are afraid to examine their own faults or to face them head on as you do. And not everything you described as a fault, is necessarily a fault. Being meticulous, prepared, clean and organized are certainly qualities I admire. I am by nature a perfectionist all the way back to my early memories. Always cleaning, always organizing, always taking meticulous care of my yard or garden, the list goes on and on. I always thought that was the only way to be, until I saw an investigative report a few years back about the lives of kids who are perfectionists. They found that often times we don't succeed in life or find happiness as much as kids who for example color outside the lines, or who aren't as picky as we are. And suicide is higher among perfectionist people. The reason..Fear! Fear that we won't do it perfect so why try. Fear of failure! Not living up to our own expectations, therefore not truly happy with ourselves....not happy with life because we can see the flaws and the sadness that exists around us and we can't always find a way to fix it. It hit home with me. I finally realized there were many opportunities that came my way and I didn't take those paths because I was afraid if I wasn't perfect I would be a failure so why do it if I wasn't sure I would be perfect at it.

I can feel myself fading fast....and since I have to work tomorrow, I best give this a rest...good night friends!

QuietStorm: Hi! I got out of bed around 3:30 am and answered my e-mails, then wrote out some bills. It's now 4 am and I'm on my second cup of coffee! I do love early mornings! Her date with Ed was towards the end of the show - and I didn't see the scene with her sitting there in her robe crying, like they showed in the previews. She said they both kind of fell asleep from their busy day of swimming and being out in the sun. She was sooo disappointed at the lack of chemistry and passion. But he flew his parents to Hawaii to meet Jillian which was sweet. I think in the end she picked Ed was because he said "I love you" on the tape - and Reid was indecisive about a proposal in the end. These situations are so unrealistic for finding true love. In the finale previews, something goes terribly wrong... Hey - I love coloring!!!

TBD - regarding a NEW name - does TBD stand for anything special? Like Nie, you have a varied interest in musical taste. I have never developed and "ear" for jazz though I have tried. And the most I do with my piano lately is to "dust" it! LOL

CK - Ah! Some misunderstanding here. I haven't spent a great deal of time in England yet. I've been there for four times for various reasons but I got my education in HK (up to now). Next year I'm flying over there for a Master degree. Hope this clears things up :) Regarding my accent, I've actually been told at the airport in Amsterdam that I have American accent. It surprised me at first but you know, Hollywood films dominate our lives and I must have listened to lots of Josh Groban interviews :S In fact sometimes I find the British accent weird, especially in the Northern part. My favorite soccer player comes from Yorkshire and it took me a long time to get used to his accent... Lol but there comes the interesting question regarding soccer. The matches and the men always come together. I love the game, but I'd be lying if I told you I don't take notice of their looks. But looks alone don't make me like a player. I like none of those players who are commonly regarded as handsome, e.g. David Beckham, Cristiano Ronaldo, Fernando Torres (he IS cute). I like players who give 120% in every game.

Nie - I did misunderstand - I thought you already had spent time in England studying. This morning on the news I saw a program regarding the economy and small business in HK. It was interesting to see all the shops and how the costs have affected everyone globally. American accent, huh??? Well there are hundreds of different accents - most recognizably NY, NJ, Boston and of course, Southern. Do you like the Hollywood Classics?

tbd i take back my other statement about you being bi. neat, loves to cook cultural cuisine, clean, well grommed, cranky and onery, organized. you sound more gay not bi. i think your girlfreind left because she thought you were only gay. no offense but you sound gay. and maybe not posting about your favorite positions and what you do to guys is good. you were better as the douce guy and more entertaning.

Hello ashley, I think you like the attention you are getting from me! Let's clarify a few salient points: The word is "douche", not "douce". "douce" as you spelled it, is defined as ..'sedate or quiet". So, referring to me as the 'douce guy' is highly inaccurate as I am neither sedate nor quiet. "douche" is the word you were searching for..which is French and translates to "shower". After you learn English, you may want to consider studying French. While you liked me better as the 'douche guy, I can assure you that both QS and ck did not. I do not like to cook cultural cuisine, I like to eat it. There is a difference. Do only gay men like to eat? And, if only gay men were well groomed, there would be a lot of straight men not getting laid. As far as being "cranky and ornery" I am usually better once I take a Midol....and I'm only like this for around 5 days a month. What do you suppose that is??? I do not have a favorite position, it depends who I am with and what feels right for my partner as well. I think as far as what I "do to guys" well, you can use your imagination...there are not that many options. Please let me know if there is anything else you'd like to know...I am an open book. ck, I use TBD as 'to be determined', the letters, the acronym, is not associative. QS: If I had an ego problem, you surely would alleviate any feelings of insecurity and self doubt. Not many people "get"me on line.

ashley, while you may not want to 'hear' this..many women like my ambiguous sexual orientation. I cannot say exactly why, but they do.

tbd- ewwwwwwwwwwww and boo hoo....

Oh, Tantra Deflower, HH the Dalai Lama surely would not approve!

What is a tantra flower?

http://www.luckymojo.com/tktantradefinition.html

ashley, tantra - you are both f___king douche bags. play nice or beat it.

Just when we think we have this site all to ourselves...we find out little mice have been listening in. Do we have any mouse traps?

Hi Neil, How was your day? Do you have boys or girls, and how are they doing? Is your sanity still intact?

Hi Ck and TDB, Are you doing anything exciting? Well why not?! LOL Hope you are both having a nice relaxing evening! I'm a little on the tuckered side right now. Kinda feeling like I need a little kitty nap to make it through the evening, and I thought I would have tomorrow off but the temp agency wants me to do a one day job at a downtown campus doing data entry. I turned it down since it is rather far from home,but they called me back and started begging cause they can't find anyone else. I gave in, darn it! I'm such a guppy for pleasing people! Now I'm going to have to leave my house at 6:30 in the morning, fight bad traffic, and fight for a parking spot. Good Grief Charlie Brown!

Hey - What's going on here? Let's just try to get along. No need for the bullying toward TBD.

QS: I kinda crashed and burned myself today with only 3 1/2 hours of sleep. So you're one of those people that can't say "no" also??? I've worked way too many extra hours myself when I didn't want to - but I'm sure the extra cash will be nice.... Any more thought about AT&T?? You could single handedly select the next AI winner for 2010!!!! LOL I'm not sure Jillian made the right choices at all..... TBD: I like those initials alone - with the understanding that life and the future should be new and fresh - unscripted and "to be determined" only as each new day unfolds....omg, I sound like an old hippy! LOL

Hey... can someone randomly send you an e-mail? Cause I got one today from someone called "Abigal" - who's name didn't ring a bell. After I read the message, I soon realized Abigal was actually signed and from "Abigirl". So I'm thinking.... do I know this person or was this some type of virus? Could someone hack me from this site.... we just were having conversations about this stuff... weird, huh? I ran a scan and no virus came up. My son told me a kid in his class is a major hacker.

Hey CK.. I feel so much better, just took an hour nap! Now I'm watching America's Got Talent. That is a great show, again giving people a chance at a dream and a million dollars. I just watched a 8 year old boy play the guitar like Eddie Van Halen. He wants to win so his mom can stop working and they can spend more time together. That had me crying like a baby! They put him through to the next round. That is a little scary about your email. What did she have to say? Might be wise not to open anything you don't recognize, or get a feeling about. I have never had that happen. I do regret entering Publishers Clearing House Sweepstakes. They spam me to death every day. I don't even open them, I just delete.

CK..Next week Jillian will finally get to see the clips of Wes and I can't wait to see her reaction when she hears the things that loser said. Kipton seems like a nice guy, and I kind of like Ed too. Some how I was hoping Reid would be in the top two even though he is wishy washy and even neurotic at times. Isn't that crazy..I can see that about him, but I still find myself liking him. That pilot guy is probably the one she should have picked, I think he cared the most for her.

QS: Yes, Jake (I think) seemed like he really cared about her. I'm turning in early tonight - I could used some zzzzz's. Have a good day tomorrow!

Thanks Ck. I'm really dreading tomorrow, don't want to do this and wish I had told them NO twice. I'm just glad this is a one time thing. I need to get to bed too but of course now I'm wide awake since I took that nap. I need to get up by 5:30. Well, sweet dreams gal pal!

CK - I don't know "which" American accent that guy was referring my accent to... probably just the kind he speaks... Didn't know which city he comes from and didn't care to investigate. Lol so you have a picture of how HK looks like?! I read a report on Yahoo maybe a week ago and it said HK is the forth most expensive city in the world! I was really surprised because I've always thought things are cheap in HK. It's probably the rent that results the high ranking... Btw, we seem to have lots of lurking "friends" on this poll :D

Nie: I know that HK rents are extremely high from watching Househunters International. You can get more for the $$$$ in Bealize. This lady once purchased a house on a slight hill with the beach as her front lawn, a rock garden with flowers and hot tub (she wanted a pool), 3 bedrooms with a 4th detached masterbedroom (that she ended up using as an office), completely furnished for $123,000!!!!!!!!!! I saw some of HK open markets on the BBC news - they focused on a bake shop and how high flour was last year (it dropped considerable this year). The shop owner said he had to increase this one type of bun from $.50 to $.65 - I assume he didn't drop his price after his own cost dropped. How is the night life in HK? I imagine it can be very exciting.

Nie: I know that HK rents and properties are extremely expensive from watching Houshunters International. Belize is the place you get more for the $$$. This lady purchased a house on a slight hillside with the beach as her front yard, 3 bedrooms with a 4th detached master that looked like a tower (she used it as her office), a rock garden with flowers and a hot tub (she wanted a pool but would compromise the tub), completely furnished for $123,000!!!!! I saw the open HK markets on the BBC News - they focused on a bake shop and the increased costs of ingredients last year... but the cost of flour has dropped considerable this year though I assume the baker didn't drop his cost to his customers. What's the night life like in HK? I imagine it to be exciting.

Sorry for the double post. It didn't register the first time (or so I thought) and re-typed it..... QuietStorm: Hope you have a good day. I caught the end of a show on the most haunted places but missed one of interest.... "The Myrtle House" - do you have any knowledge of this? The e-mail was a bit raunchy... but I still can't believe I read it as Abigal!!!! LOL

tbd i think the girls who like your ambiguous sexual preference are bi too. that could be why. i dont think i should be called a douche bag by neil just becaause i asked tbd to tone down the talk. i used to come to this board all of the time and maybe it would be nice if some people could be accepting too if others don't appreciate his comments. i bet i am not the only one. sorry if i insulted tbd but maybe you should think about it. i am not anti gay i just think that to brag about it and act all high and mighty and proud is not cool.

I don't find TBD offensive; however, I find you offensive ashley.

Ashley- I have the perfect solution for you! Since all of the previous messages that TBD has posted on this forum are permenant and so really all that he has said can never go away, and also since you can't really change what someone else is going to say, and since really, coming to this forum is YOUR CHOICE, you can just L-E-A-V-E. You know, I'm surprised people who come here and are offended by what we talk about NEVER seem to think about that but think that they must post insultuing comments trying to either stop what we are saying, or start a pointless fight with people they don't even really know. Ashley, if you do not appreciaate our conversations, please leave, otherwise you are free to join our conversation and respect the people involved in the like TBD did. Please do not post an angry comment back at me, I will not respond and as long as your comments are still angry or demeaning, I hope the other posters will also not respond.

wow i am pretty sure that is the LONGEST comment i have ever posted, which is pretty sad..

Whoa! Where to begin.....I am away for one day and all this has occured in my asense. I feel..I feel..I feel significant, thanks ashley! Jesthena: You go girl! (girl, right?). Hey, even I won't argue with neil's usage of "the db word(s)" this time. I think ck has warmed up to me, it's official, she has my back! QS: thanks for keeping those mouse traps handy. I think I am going to (try to) ignore Tantra and ashley. But one last comment, ashley: I had no issues with QS asking me about my sexuality. I had no issues answering the questions candidly. I did not go into detail or post anything erotic or provocative, never mind sexually explicit. I will continue to respond in the same manner, so if you don't like it--get the hell out of dodge. If your goal is for me to feel ashamed or embarrassed, I'm afraid it will be an exercise in futility.

Oh, and Mr. E (mystery??)......you go guy!

So I wasted about 4 hours today because my company decided they were going to lease me a car and discontinue my Zip Car service. this is not a good thing--Zip Car drops you up at your door, is fully gassed, and picks up at your door. I think the cost for someone who traveled as much as I do is too high for Zip Rentals. In the past Iwould fly between MA and NY, but it was not worth the airport hassle, trip planning,and taxi, limo shuttle from airport expense for such a relatively short drive.So, I came up with the Zip Car idea...now they're trying to make me have my own leased car. While they will reimburse me for fuel and tolls, etc...(and fully pay for the leased vehicle) it is still a hassle. I have to store it at work or rent a garage in the city (they will pay) which means I will have to take the subway, train, or taxi back to my place from where the car is parked since driving spots here at at a premium. It will be a colosol waste of time. So, this is the interesting part, QS: The women at the Infiniti lease desk asked me if I was "always this ornery" I began laughing and replied "yes". ck, I doubt you were hacked. Most amateur hackers will not waste the time to hack a system just to send e-mail with no purpose (it is time consuming to hack these days with all of the safeguards now installed in outside programs). What happens sometimes is e-mail addresses are 'lifted" from on-line purchase outlets and then you will begin receiving odd messages such as "I am a Nigerian Prince who needs to deposit a large sum of money....." or something to that affect. Definitely complain to your internet provider though...or your e-mail provider. While Rickey's site is not secure--i t is not one that most hackers would want to enter. What you should do is sign up for an e-mail through gmail, yahoo, hotmail, etc...which will be used only for internet blogs. When you have to enter your e-mail address for any reason--use it, but don't use it otherwise i.e.: to purchase online, pay bills or correspond with , etc. If it gets lifted, just open a new one. People can have an unlimited number of addresses these days. I am so pissed off about this lease that I am now steaming here at work and therefore, wasting time. The woman at the leasing office isn't calling me back either. I think she is probably waiting for a really ugly color to become available.

c-o-l-o-s-s-a-l. I knew that was the proper spelling....really, I did! ;)

Ughhhh! What a hassle with the car and commute.... I'd be steaming too, I don't have patience for stuff like that. She called you "ornery"???? HOHOHOHO Are you sure it wasn't Susan Shapiro all grown up????

QS: I just recently started taping America's Got Talent, but hadn't watched it when you posted about that 9yr. boy.... I was just watching it, and I got goose bumps! Rhythm and blues is my favorite and this kid just nailed it!!!! Not to mention, he's self taught???? OMGoodness, he IS amazing! He was stunned afterward.... and those tears of joy? What a sweet kid!

It was rather odd ..her choice of adjective given that QS had recently applied that term to me. It gave me a peculiar feeling....kind of "dejavuesque". Query: Are any of you (with the exception of ashley and Tantra) on Facebook? I keep in touch with many people with this tool. While I think it is too early to communicate via this mode, I have met several..around 40 or more--people on line in these forums and we have kept in touch via Facebook. It's safe so no need to worry about the unsavory characters popping in. Something to consider in the future. Right now, I would not feel comfortable posting my Facebook info here. I'm a computer dude, so it is easier for me to meet people via the internet --I spend so much time on my computer that it feels more natural. I must sound anti-social...but clearly if you met me, I am not. The Infiniti leasing agent phoned me back an hour ago and told me that she had my car in "white". I told her from the onset that I did not want a light color, such as white, that would require weekly car wash (since I am not able to go to the car wash every week--it was great having a clean zip car delivered!). She said "(sigh) I'll do my best". I think she hates me!

Love ya TBD, but you are high maintenance.

Hi TBD....Happy to here the "ornery' incident made you laugh. That's great. I'm trying to picture your smile in my mind. I was wondering...what time do you go to bed and what time do you have to be at work? You know me....just curious! God seems to have given me a big dose of curiosity in my nature. I bet I was one of "those" kids that was always asking 'Why this, why that". I have another very sensitive question I've been wanting to ask both you and Neil and I've been a little afraid to ask for fear it might be way too sensitive and even hurtful. If either one of you don"t want to talk about this please just say so and I'll understand. Well, here goes...Were you anywhere near ground zero on 911? Did you hear the explosions, and what was that day like for you? I am still somewhat in disbelief that this even happened. Watching it unfold on TV made it all seem very surreal.

Hi Ck...How was your day? My day went better than I thought it would,and the people I worked with were wonderful. If it was closer to me, I wouldn't mind working there and I like the college campus atmosphere, but it is nearly 20 miles from my home on the opposite side of the city. For that reason, I'm glad it's over and now I finally have some days off! Time to relax and to catch up on gardening and some things around the house.

Hi Jesthena and Nie! Haven't talked to you in awhile,, so I just wanted to say Hey, I hope things are going well for both of you, and I don't mean to leave you out of the conversation. And Jesthena, I think that was your longest post! But well said. It would be lovely if Ashley and Tantra Flower would come over to the "nice" side and join us. I would really enjoy finding out if they are in fact good people, just like we found out that underneath TBD"s "orneryness", there is a truly intelligent, unique, and likeable guy. So once again Ashley and Tantra Flower, give this some thought. No one over here hates you, we just don't want anyone bringing negativity over, not to mention personal attacks. Also want to say Hi Neil, come join us!

HELLO QS - I find the whole 911 incident very tragic too. Can you even imagine something like this happening in real life? I was very young at that time and was watching the HK version of Who Wants to be A Millionaire when the news broke out. I have no relative in the US but was still very disturbed just by the fact that it CAN happen, that human beings are capable of such extreme hatred and cruelty. CK - Night life IS exciting in HK :) I don't go to disco much and am not a big fan of alcohol but having drinks with friends and of course watching soccer games in bars are fun. People love going for karaoke at night too. They offer special price at night and you can stay overnight and sing, which, to me, is kind of weird. To be honest it's the friends that I care for, not the night life.

QS: I sleep very little and have always had this pattern: I go to bed between midnight and 1:00 am (occasionally slightly earlier)--and usually wake by 6:00 or 6:30. If I work out before the office, I wake at 5:30. While I do socialize, I do not drink very much at all so I never stay up much later than that on weekends (yeah--I'm a club soda guy). Being 'high energy', I don't require as much sleep as the average human. 9-11 I did not live in NYC--but did visit for work. I was residing in the Boston area back then living in Cambridge. I did go to NYC three weeks after 9-11 and you would have thought it just happened that day. It was a sobering experience visiiting the site at ground zero put everything into perspective. I also knew some people (not closely) who perished (three of the planes left from Boston) which is something I can really not discuss here now.

I do not have to be at work at any particular time, QS, unless I have a meeting in the morning. Generally it is expected that I show up by 9:00. But, I am always in by 8:00 or earlier. My company allows me a lot of flexibility.

Good Morning TBD! How are you feeling today? I stayed up till 12:30 last night and woke up at 6 am this morning. Reread my last 3 posts from last night and realized I should have used "hear' instead of "here" in my post to you. I must have been on auto-pilot mode. LOL You had mentioned Facebook, and that you had met several people on there. Did you mean in person, or just on the board? I haven't used Facebook yet, and don't know anything about it. How would we all get in touch on that? Also, I hope the car thing doesn't get you down. Are they thinking they are saving money this way? It doesn't sound to me like they are saving that much to put you through this.

TBD...I also wanted to ask you about the Genome thing you're working on. Does that have to do with DNA or the study of genes? Pardon my ignorance on the subject, but am I on the right track or is it something else? I would like to learn more about it.

My company is saving money with a lease V Zip. Zip is designed to be used as a "periodic rental". Since I travel constantly between two locations-- and it will be like this for the next two years--it makes more sense financially. I think they can more easily write off a leased vehicle too. If you are an urban dweller, you cannot beat the convenience of Zip. But my company has treated me well so I have to abide. I think when they realize that I will be spending more time commuting to parking garages, etc which means more time away from work--they may rethink their decision. They cannot allow only me the luxury of the Zip service or others will want the same. That is what it comes down to. I have no use for the car in the city--in Mass perhaps--but the Zip Rental worked well for me there too. I would guess that they will be saving around 40% overall. Since people are getting laid off--it is a small sacrifice for me to make. I know I must sound very jaded. The rental agent called this morning and was much more cheery and quasi-apologetic. I was responded in kind...so hopefully we both just had a bad day and she will find me a nice blue-toned vehicle today. 'Facebook' is similar to 'My Space'. You have to sign up on-line--it's free. It's much more personal than a message board. I usually know someone for about a year before I allow them access to my 'Facebook' (it contains loads of personal info). I am going to start a twitter account soon--so possibly anybody out there who is exceedingly bored can follow me. I don't expect it to be too exciting to follow a Computer Scientist--when one can just as easily follow a celebrity! Quite a few work colleagues have Twitters.

Speaking of celebrities TBD, Do you ever run into some of them on the streets or restaurants of NYC? Do you ever go to Central Park?

My company is on the other side of the river but very close - but we had no knowledge of what was actually happening other than two planes had crashed into the towers. The owner came in and said that our country was "under attack" and he was sending us home to be with our families. There were very details on the radio when it first happened and it was a scary ride back home with and suprisingly no cars on the road yet. I remember looking over toward the city as I drove expecting a bomber to head our way. My brother was already at my our house when I arrived home - his company had let him go early as well. Like hundreds of parents, I went to get my son from school. The principal came out and told us that the children were safe and that she had not informed them of the situation for fear of causing panic. She felt it was better to let them stay, finish the day and for the parents to explain the situation themselves later after school. There was only a few hours left so I followed her advice - most parents did too.

Good Morning CK! The sound of my living room tv woke me up that morning. I don't remember if I could make out what they were saying, but first thought in my head was, I need to get up and help my son get ready for school. I walk into my living room and find my son sitting on the floor in front of the tv. That was strange in itself, then I look up at the tv and the first tower had been hit and a helicopter was circling and showing that big gaping hole in the building. My son had awoke to his radio alarm and heard that a plane had just hit the tower. Only 4 months earlier he was standing on the deck of the one tower which you could walk out on to view all of NYC. He had gone on a trip with his dad. When I saw that first tower I thought the pilot must have had a heart attack or something. About 2 minutes after watching the first tower burning, we saw the 2nd plane aiming and coming in behind the 2nd tower, and when it hit, that is when true shock set in and it became obvious both hits were deliberate. It was when the 3rd plane hit the Pentagon that really true horror set in and I thought my God the whole country is under attack! My son caught the school bus and went off to school I believe before the 3rd plane hit, and I remember debating on whether I should go get him and bring him home. I was so glued to the tv all day trying to make sense of what was happening and trying to figure out if we were in danger here in Albuquerque. It was also so very strange not to see planes flying in the sky for those days afterward when all planes world wide were grounded. Does anyone remember how many days they were grounded. I know it was at least 3 days to a week.

QS: Good morning. My cousin worked on Wall Street directly across from the towers. They had no details and of course had to evacuate. He said he wrapped his shirt around his face and head, and began walking through all the dust and debris. Instead of following the crowd, he decided to walk along the river so he could jump in the water if there were any fires. His phone didn't work and he just walked and walked. He ended up spending the night in an apartment foyer with a bunch of other people. It was two days, before we knew if he was safe or not... He was traumatized by the lost of several childhood friends (they all started Wall Street as teens from the old neighborhood) and new friends he had made over the years - he lost about 25-30 personal friends - his best friend had tried to call him when the plane first hit his building (top floor Fitzgerald office), but the call never went through and they all died on that floor. A few years later, my cousin grew tired of the stress and quit. He moved to Florida and has a job as night security at a hotel beach resort. Pay stinks but he loves it and has great health care. I am so glad that he's happy - He's says - "I get paid to walk the beach in shorts and socialize with guests - what's not to like?"

CK..Did your cousin evacuate before the towers fell or afterwards? So sorry to hear he lost his best friend and others. I kind of went numb at first, then when they started showing family members showing up with pictures of their loved ones and desperately trying to find out if they survived, it hit me and I cried every day for awhile. I can't believe we are still looking for Osama Bin Laden. Did you know that the only people who were granted special permission to fly during those no flying days was the Bin Laden family that were personal friends of Bush. How ironic is that!

Pretty chilling account ck. I think being a mother during the 9-11 attacks made you, and all mothers, feel very vulnerable. My mother called me from the West Coast that morning when she awoke. I told her "Mom, I am in Boston, not New York...I am fine" and she broke down crying. She said something in Manderin which loosely translates to the equivalent of : "I can breath, I can live". I was 29 at the time so I can only imagine how the mother of a young child would felt. QS: I live very close to Central Park--very close--but do not spend nearly enough time there. It is vast and beautiful--in the middle of a major metropolis--amazing! I travel so much and spend only 1/2 the time in NYC between my Mass office and conferences, business trips. I have to leave the end of July--early August for a 8-10 day conference overseas. I am not looking forward to that! I am dealing with a very awkward work situation today wherein I am actively trying to avoid someone--so uncomfortable. I wish I could leave for that conference right now.

QS: Of course we see celebs in NYC, I am sure neil has spotted a few as well. A couple of weeks ago I strolled by Katie Couric. Yes, she walks the streets of NYC! I also stood next to (I think it was...but cannot remember his name...) Morley Safer (sp) of 60 Minutes--hope he is not the dead one--but he was/is the old, rumpled dude from 60 minutes. We were flagging a taxi at the same time near Lincoln Center. Not just news people here--I saw that Patriots Player (Brady?) and his model gf/wife not long ago. The famous, delicious Japanese restaurant "Nobu" used to be a celeb hangout. Each time I would dine there--I'd see someone new.

TBD...You aren't being stalked again by a co-worker are you? They just said on the news that today is the 10th anniversary of the death of JFK JR. Did you ever get to meet him? How tragic that he died so young in the prime of his life. What country will you get to visit overseas? Hope you get the chance to have some fun as well. I haven't made it to Europe yet, would love to visit Austria, Switzerland, Italy, Ireland, England, Germany, Norway, and Sweden. My paternal grandma was full Swede.,and paternal grandpa was full French. My mother was of English,German, and Shawnee Indian blood, so what a combo I am made of! I remember from the Daniel Boone tv show he used to kill my relatives...how funny is that!

Hi, guys! Didn't get much of a chance to stop by today.... work kept getting in the way HOHOHO We don't see celebrities here often, but over the years I've done many weddings, party invites and Christmas cards for some real big stars and sports figures. So I always knew months in advance of celebrity "secret" weddings and events. I guess I could have made some money selling the info to the Enquirer - but it wasn't worth losing my job for. Does anyone remember Billy Joel's "Uptown Girl" video - they shot that at my father's gas station in NYC - across the street from CBGB's - my Dad knew and saw a lot of celebrities over the years. Lauren Hutton was a regular customer. He would always tell me that if I wanted to meet Eric Clapton, I should head over to the Russian Tea Room.

QS: All of the countries that you have named are worth seeing, with two excpetions--personally, I am not a huge fan of Ireland..though it has its own natural beauty. Sweden, nah. It is not, in my opinion, a great country to visit for many reasons. I happen to be going to Stockholm--anyone who has been there will understand that it isn't the most pleasant place to visit (or to eat)--people are not very friendly . It is no wonder the suicide rate is so high there. I will be working non-stop anyway so I won't have to deal with a social scene. I lived in England as a teen for a stretch. London is a great city. I don't see France on your wish list...hmmmmm....Austria is beautiful, remarkable and Switzerland is probably my favorite foreign country...I could live there. My father, while a citizen of the UK, had German roots so we visited Germany quite often in my childhood. I am having an issue with this intern at work--no no no--not a stalker. I am trying to figure out to handle it--but I am not sure I want to consult with some of my female or male colleagues as I know how rumors spread. I also don't want to post something here that might upset the 'ashleys' of the world. I asked two female friends and my sister for advice on how to handle it--they were not helpful! Erghhhhh....

I would like to see England and visit my family there. I'd also love to have the time and money just to travel the good old USA. I don't wish to go abroad - besides we'll be Euro all too soon anyway.... Hey TBD - Did you hear that China is setting up missiles toward Taiwan? It was all over the news today and is looking very serious - do you have family there?

TBD - Since when do YOU care about what the ashley's of this world think????? Come on.... spill it!

Good point, ck! It's late and I'm still at work. ashley and Tantra --stop reading now! Here goes....periodically, we have grad students from two universities come in for internships. I dread it because it involves my having to train them for free and depending on their level of understanding--answering too many elementary and basic questions --it is interminable. They assigned a young women to me last week. She is smart, asks relevant questions and is probably one of the brighter interns that has come our way. She seemed very sweet and is from another Asian culture (I am intentionally being non-specific here). She is young, as I said--22 or 23 is my guess. I took her to lunch once last week and yesterday as well. I didn't think much of it. I felt somewhat badly that I had not been very welcoming in the beginning--assuming she would be another typical idiot intern wasting my time. This is the issue: She made a very blunt proposition to me which involved umm...dating minus the courting ritual..if you get my drift. She was specific and made her intentions clear, in no uncertain terms. For the record: this does not happen to me, ever. I think she felt comfortable with me because she assumed that we share a similar culture...both being of Asian decent. First of all, she is much too young for me. I have never dated anybody that young even when I was in my mid-late twenties! I am not interested in her. While she is not beautiful-- (not that this matters to me), she is pleasant looking-- I just don't see it happening. I shared these thoughts with her and she told me that she did not care and that it could be very superficial. I told her that I did not want to hurt her --nothing deterred her--she did not get the hint or did not care. She became more aggressive with her intentions...I am floored by the boldness!. So, I asked my sister if I should tell her that I am just not interested in her in any way (which is the truth). My sister told me "ha ha you're on your own". It is pretty embarrassing that, at 37, I am calling every female I know asking for advice --I was even rude to her at one point. I am not sure why she is intereted in me--I wasn't very nice to her--probably even condescending. She is here for four more weeks and I cannot avoid her forever. Luckily, I'll be away for 8 days end of the month. What strikes me as most odd is that she is so aggressive and so detailed in her proposal. She looks so unassuming --I never would have guessed. She wants me to "take her home in my new car" (picked up the blue one today) since, supposedly, she has no transportation. She is also still here at 9:15 pm..... I feel like a prisoner. Luckily, my department had a dinner meeting this evening and there are still others here. I am not leaving until she splits first. I feel like I'm in High School. God save me from the glandular intern!

TBD: It's time for the "I don't mix business with pleasure" line and that's it! Say that you make it a point of never getting involved like that with any co-workers because it puts you in a very compromising position in the office. Seriously.... it works without any hard feelings.... unless you decide to date someone else from the office next week. Anyway, I believe office romances can really ruin a career when it's over...... However, I have broken my own rule on occasion. LOL

My mother's extended family: cousins, a few elderly aunts and uncles, are all still in Taiwan. Her siblings and all of my first cousins are in the states--mainly California and Texas. My mother is going to Taiwan, as far as I know, next month for a visit. She may need to rethink that one. Pleasure trips are fun---traveling for work is not...it is boring and can be lonely--especially overseas. When I travel with a group of colleagues at least I have company. I dread my overseas work trips--though most of my business travel is national.

ck, I am glued to my computer so I do not have to leave here until she splits. I told her that I do not date from the workplace pool I...and it is true. I do not date colleagues, never mind someone under my tutelage. She does not care! I think I a going to have to be even more blunt--if that is possible.

Yes, your mother should consider postponing her trip under the circumstances I heard today. I always use to invite new office employees out for lunch when they first started and always found my self kinda "stuck" - they wanted to have lunch EVERYDAY together - like we were know a clique or best buddies. I like the freedom of sitting at lunch with whomever I feel like sitting with that day. I usually don't hang with the same person every day. It keeps things interesting.... I don't take newcomers out anymore....

Well wtf do YOU care whether or not SHE cares!!!!!! Sorry, but don't be intimidated by that chic! Thanks, but no thanks! Period!!! And DO NOT take her home - you are NOT going her way, but will be happy to call a cab for her!

Better yet - Give her the taxi phone number... and she can call herself!!!!!

Sorry to leave you, but I gotta go get my kid at a friend's house. Later and good luck. And if by chance you do cave, we will want details! LOL

It's not intimidation. It's difficult to explain-there is a connection one feels with those of similar cultures. While I was born and raised here--I was always referred to as the "Chinese kid"--even had a bus driver call me "chink" one time in elementary school...hey, and I'm only 1/2! Even though I have to work with her--I am considering telling her to f*** off--I know this seems harsh ....But then again, I think that given the circumstances, I am starting to bend a little. I'm still a guy. Okay......She just left so I'm splitsville! G'Night.

Oh yeah.... well I'm 3/4 Irish - does that mean I have to sleep with every Irishman I meet???

dude, do not get bent if ur planning on sleeping with her. jk however, this sounds like sexual harassment. hey, you owe me coffee.

ck - since i'm 100% irish, i would have to say 'yes, you do'

TBD...This girl is likely to keep plotting and dreaming up situations to put you in, just like tonight, to try to create the right environment to seduce you. Ask yourself first what her motives are. Is she needing American citizenship where she might want to trap you with a pregnancy and a forced marriage, or looking for a sugar daddy, or at least child support? I wouldn't trust her, and if it is just pure lust, is it worth the fallout that may unexpectedly comeback later to haunt you in some way you may not even foresee. Honesty is the best policy. I would suggest a confrontation that goes something like this: "Look, there is a situation developing here that I don't like, so this is the way it is going to be. I won't be taking you to lunch anymore and I won't be giving you rides anywhere. We work together and that is all. If you keep trying to take this further, I will be forced to submit a sexual harrassment complaint against you. Do you understand me?" If you want to get laid, pick someone outside of work. You don't want to risk your job do you? I hope this helps you TBD. Don"t let the idea of sex cloud your decision making. Never mix business with pleasure.

TBD: Oh no... do not tell her to f___ off! No need for that, but be firm using the wording along the lines of QS. Always keep the conversation professional and ignore her advances. I think it's fair that all 3 of us don't trust her and obviously you don't. Good luck. You know, if all else fails and you're still not interested, pass her along (introduce her) to another co-worker - like a "hook up". That's worked for me in the past - they actually got married and I went to the wedding!! QS: Hi! I'm ready to sleep. I've been watching news all evening and I find all of the changes and debt in this country extremely distrubing. TBD: What's your mother's opinion of the health care plan?

I escaped unscathed. ck, I wouldn't utter the words "f*** off". Somebody would really have to get under my skin for me to resort to that. I meant conveying the equivalent of "F*** Off" to her. I have never been with an Asian--male or female. To Stereotype: Asian females here are not outwardly sexually aggressive toward males whom they do not know well. It is cultural. Not only was I floored by the proposition--I think she felt more comfortable with me because of my ethnic background. I tried to pawn her of to this one dude who would be interested, I thought. He was not. She finally left last night but tonight will be another issue--it's Friday and our department is going out after work for dinner/drinks as the department head is leaving for another position. She is coming. I don't thinks he is looking for citizenship as she is a grad student--usually not the case. I am a tiny bit concerned that she could claiml "sexual harassment" given the fact that I am her superior and much older. I don't know how much longer I can hold out... I'm a guy. Off to a meeting. Later......

Hmmmm..... I don't think I've ever known any female who is that openly aggressive, and DOESN'T CARE if the relationship goes anywhere or not. I still think there is an underlying motive, and it sounds like QS and neil somewhat agree. In the end, it's your decision. But if you ARE beginning to like her - it doesn't have to be tonight, does it? I suggest waiting it out for awhile or play it cool. She doesn't sound like your type to me anyway.

Things are really bad around here at work and we'll be forced to take a day off without pay. There are rumors that they are thinking of cutting back hours even more - to about 28 per week. I can't live on that!

TBD...FOR GOD SAKES, KEEP THINKING WITH THE HEAD ON YOUR SHOULDERS AND NOT THE ONE IN YOUR PANTS! This girl spells "T-R-O-U-B-L-E". These blogs are dated and timed and these are now your proof of what is going down in case she retaliates with a big lie that you came onto her. And this very possibility is another reason you don't want to get involved with her. Have you ever seen the movie FATAL ATTRACTION? If not, rent it immediately! Even if you have a "one time only" with her, she could have you by the balls [excuse my language]. This girl could be really WACKO you just don't know what she could do with the fact that she now slept with you. I guarantee you that she is biting at the bit to get to you tonight, and all eyes of your co-workers will be there to see and observe the interactions between the two of you. If I was you, I would at least keep turning your back to her and shutting her out. OR CONFRONT HER TONIGHT IF THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF. This girl isn't acting "normal". That should be a big red flag waving in your mind. And like I said, if you want to get laid, go to a bar and pick up a stranger you can forget about afterwards, JUST REMEMBER TO PUT ON THAT RAIN COAT! LOL

Good Morning CK! Sorry to hear it's getting scary for you. Hope for the best, but plan for the worst, just in case. It might not hurt to start looking at job ads to see what is out there. I would feel alot better if I was in a secure good paying job "with benefits" which I am lacking right now, but at least I'm working and I know the best thing I can do for myself is to stay positive. I am a huge believer in the metaphysical law of attraction. We bring to us what we think about. If you dwell and believe bad things are coming your way, you won't be disappointed, it will. So stay positive girlfriend! Think good thoughts, nothing but good happenings ahead of you! Change is always a little scary, but I find in retrospect that it has always pushed me to a better place within myself.

QS: Thanks! I'm a planner and always have a backup plan for my backup plan. So I'm sure we'll be okay. Always think positive. What's getting me down is the way our country is heading politically - and I feel very little control - actually powerless - to make a difference. I'm not afraid of hard work, but I don't want to work to support this government. If this health care plan is passed, NY will be paying close to 58% of their salary in taxes if they make $1 million. That's outrageous!

Have you seen Michael Moore's movie "Sicko"? It is a fantastic movie about our existing health care system, and whether you are democrat or republican, all people should see this movie. We are in extremely bad shape right now because insurance companies are out to get rich off of people and to dump you when you get something catastrophic like cancer or need an organ transplant. The minute you become expensive they start looking for ways to not have to pay your bills. This is wrong! I don't know if Obama's plan is the answer and I doubt if it is perfect, but I do know something has got to change drastically with the current system. Costs keep going up anyway the way it is, and there is no guarantee they will cover you when you may need it most. Watch Sicko and you will know what I mean. It is full of testimonials from real people of what has happened to them. Anyway, what worries me right now is that TBD is going to start thinking with the wrong head! LOL

I think TBD should forget the after work party tonight and skip it if he can so that he's not put into a situation. Maybe claim to have a personal or family emergency if he's expected to go...

That would certainly pop her balloon of hope! At least half of me agrees with you. The other thought I'm having is that he shouldn't have to run from her, or have his chance of a nice time at the party ruined because of her. I guess we will have to wait and see how TBD decides to handle this.

QS: I'm not saying that we don't need some cost reform, but I'd like to read this 3,000 page document myself... this affects us all.... enough politics! TBD: I find most office parties boring anyway.... unless you're having an office affair.

i am currently investigating moving my business and employees out of the country. i don't mind paying my fair share of taxes, but i'm not busting my ass to carry the entire country. most of my staff is young and have kids. they need a decent salary and the best health care i can give them. ck want to come work for me?

TBD has been MIA all day.... hmmmmmm. neil: Thanks for the offer. However, if LBI is too far, I think leaving the country is outta the question. But you are rather sweet. I'm County Cork - where are your people from?

I had meetings all day as well as a Doctor's appointment. Since I officially have a hernia--I have a great excuse for my lack of prowess! Whoa!--QS you be bad! I also wear my raincoat--even when women tell me that they have their own method. It protects my aprteners as well as myself. I do not--and have never--had indiscriminate sex. I am not made that way. So, neil--help me out--when somebody (a female, in this case) basically confesses to a dude what they would like to do to you to them non-copulatory but sexually pleasing nonetheless (umm..if you get my drift--) , it is enticing. She looks, acts and is seemingly normal--but I think she is probably a little whacked--and very horny. I do not plan to have 'relations' of any sort or fashion with her, I am not interested in her, I am going to ask her to leave me alone or be reassigned to another department. She already cried once--sorry--I find that hard to handle. While she may have problems, she is very sweet--in a demented sort of way. I have to go to this "going away" partyy as it is for my dept head who has really been a great adviser to me. I woudl feel disloyal if I did not attend.He is cutting back to consultant level as he was recently diagnosed with a chronic, debilitating illness--I have to attend. Hey neil, dude: Coffee is great--let me know where and when. I am in the City around 3-4 days per week.

Just ignore the typos in my previous post--I am stressed and overworked. I have to work all weekend to prepare for this upcoming conference. I'm leaving now for the party....

maybe you should tell her you are gay or bi. that would scare her off. I am not trying to be insenstive or anything but maybe she would not want sex or not want to give you a bj if she thought you were gay or bi even if you are not really gay. but maybe you should just do it with her anyway as long as you use protection as quiet storm says. i am not being mean but i'd rather hear about reg sex than gay sex. i am not trying to be rude. I am sorry that I was not being serious or being mean spirited before.

there are a million easy girls out there, if that's what you want. you've got a good job with a future. don't screw up your career over a whack job. there's an old saying, sorry to be gross, but don't s____ where you eat. good luck dude.

i'm trying to talk about regular sex, but i'm just ignored or shot down.

Everybody, this is the real Tantra Flower. I did not post those ugly comments and would not have even known about it if I hadn't followed a friend's recommendation to Google my username.

I would never say such terrible things to anybody, ever. I don't know who was doing that, but it wasn't me. The only comment that was mine was the first one that said that I am not following any of the idols, but I love Twitter. That was all I said and have not been back here since.

You can visit my site to see that I am not the type of person who would say those things. You can email me via the link in my Blogger profile if you would like to verify my identity.

I responded to this poll via Rickey.org, a site that I have been visiting sporadically since season one of So You Think You Can Dance. If Rickey remembers who I am, he can vouch that I have never said anything out of line or been the least bit rude to anybody. I'm a very nice person.

This is infuriating. I've never been impersonate before and I don't know why those chose my name to do this with. :(

I am just speechless here.

Also, to the person who suggested that Tantra is a religion based on sex worship, that is inaccurate. I am Buddhist and I practice some aspects of Tantra such as mindful living. I do not worship sex. In fact, I have been celibate for more than four years now. TMI perhaps, but I wanted to clear that up.

TBD....Would a girl cry just because you won't give her the sex she wants? That is very telling....think about that! The truer motive is emerging now! She thinks that once she pleases you she will snag you! She wants to hook you into a relationship! And there may be another motive hooked into that, could be that she hopes you can help advance her career and promotions, could be she wants you to take care of her. The one thing that is crystal clear to me, that this "front" she is presenting to you that she just wants sex is bogus. There are strings attached! Don't let those crocodile tears sucker you! She is now using everything in her arsenal including her "sweetness" to get to you. On another note, I am very happy to hear you don't behave like an alley cat! Men that think about nothing but sex, and ways to score are definitely not my cup of tea.

ASHLEY and TANTRA FLOWER! I now want to extend a big WELCOME to both of you! Tantra Flower..don't sweat it..I believe you and I hope we hear more from you. I have the utmost respect for Buddhism, and the few people I have known who practice it have been very loving and peaceful people. Ashley, you now sound more human to me, and I appreciate the apology. I don't think you will be hearing much talk, and certainly not detailed talk about should I say, alternative sex. I would like you to think for a moment though: If an alien from outer space came down and watched the sex act between heteros, and between gay people, do you really think they could tell who the perverts are? And did you know a number of heteros also practice sodomy? Think about all of that, and maybe you will see the practice of lovemaking in a whole new light. We all need to be more tolerant of other people's lifestyles and life choices. I hope to hear more from you.

Somebody is blogging under another person's ID again???? Sorry, if I responded negatively Tantra. It was to the post, not you personally.

hi CK! What do you think of this girl "crying" to TBD? Doesn't that sound fishy to you? Perhaps other motives surfacing? And are you watching Ghost Adventures tonight. I think I might be developing a tiny tiny crush on Zac. LOL

CK..you have got to check out this brand new episode of Ghost Ad. ! They are in Savannah Georgia at the Moon River Brewing Co.. Ghost Hunters were there before and this place is extremely haunted! They caught on film a ghoulish looking shadow that ran from a post against the wall out about 8 feet and back again. It was in the pool table back room. Zac is already freaking out big time!

QS: My son told me it was a good show, but I didn't watch it. Sorry, I cannot staaaaannnd Zak - what's with his hair??? So who do you think if blogging fake posts?

Good Morning TBD! How did it go at the company party last night? Did you enjoy it?

Good Morning CK! Probably the same person that has been doing it all along, but with a little hope,maybe they're gone. Did you retire early last night?

Too bad Walter Cronkite died. I remember watching him the day we landed on the moon, or at least supposedly landed on the moon. Do you think we really did? There is the conspiracy theory that we faked it to show Russia we were far superior. They were an extreme scary aggressive threat back then, so I see that as a possibility. Those video clips on the moon do look like they easily could have been done on a movie set, and it was proven that some of the still photos that were labeled as different places on the moon were actually still taken in just one area. What do you think?

I usually do not post on blogs during the weekend, but I am working today and tomorrow preparing for my conference attendance. The dinner/party went well. It was bittersweet in that our department head is cutting back as a consultant (not within our company) --he was not leaving for a better opportunity but due to a serious illness. I wanted to and needed to be there. As expected, "you know who" came to the dinner--seated herself directly next to me. I had consulted with a close friend and colleague before hand--a 61 year old women who is a senior programmer--in an attempt to help thwart any stealth attempts that the intern may make to get me to be alone with her. She tired to convince me that I needed to go the the Human Resource Director. While I did not go that route, I did let the woman in question know that this will be my next move should she become more persistent. She told me that she felt I was "overreacting" and that "she only wanted to spend time with me"and that as far as she knew there was "no law against a woman asking a man out on a date". I agreed but then informed her that it was wholly inappropriate to offer (ASHLEY STOP READING NOW) sexual favors in oral from to a male colleague even if he is your superior. Yes, she wept and I told her that she might want to consider transferring to another scientist, preferably a female, to start fresh. She told me that she was ashamed and "misread my intentions" and said that she would behave professionally from here on. I think she is just horny, my friend, the female senior programmer, feels she has a motive--she thinks that this women is looking for a father figure and someone to take care of her and help her move ahead. If that is the case, she went about it the wrong way. I came close to caving--partially out of pity and well...you know the other reason....the biological one. ashley..if you are still reading...she does indeed know about my ambiguous sexual orientation and apparently it did not dissuade her. She even asked me if I preferred sex with men or women--I told her both--maybe that was a mistake!! Perhaps being urban dwellers makes these alternative sexual identities more acceptable--I don't know. So that is my update. tantra: I was surprised that someone who called themselves 'tantra flower' with the obvious connection to the Buddhist faith --ala HH the Dalai Lama--would respond to me that way ("ewwwww"). Sorry your identity was hijacked. It all makes sense.

If she were simply horny she would not offer to b*** you, she would try to seduce you into sleeping with her. She's looking for something bud!

This sexual escapade is a total fabrication! TBD you are a dick no matter what your identity you use. Liar!

I agree with you Truly.

Thanks Truly. This is not the first time I've been called a dick lol! Are you the same person who stole tantra's id and accused ck of being a Farrah-wanabee and fabricating her stalking stories? I don't care whether you find my comments or the "sexual escapade" credible.This is why I want to switch the conversations to Facebook--and I am willing to if others would like to. This way, you "know" to whom you are conversing. One of my many deficits is that I offer too much information to those on-line whom I do not know well. Once the clowns leave here--I'm happy to provide my Facebook to the regulars. So fess up? Who are you? ***hole.

Truly and L are the same trouble making douche bag. Ignore them.

OH NO! Truly, Tantra the 2nd and "L", please stop with the multiple personality syndrome!

THERE"S A NEW DOUCHE IN TOWN AND HER NAME IS TRULY.

I think it's ck posing as "Truly", et al.

Oh my.... here we go again! It was soooo gorgeous here today! TBD: Thank your lucky stars that this romance is over before it begins! She's CRAAAAAAAAZY!

neil: The weather must of been great at the shore today. What did you do? I certainly hope you found time to spend with the kids and it was not all work, work, work....

I agree that ck is alsoTBD and has been double posting all along. I think he (ck and TBD) is a guy and most likely really is an Asian computer nerd.

QuietStorm: When I saw the news clip, I thought - "Oh no.... they shot those out in the desert or mid-west somewhere." They look like bad sci-fi from early Twilight Zone or B rated horror flicks! And I'm still not convinced of the "one bullet" theory for the Kennedy Assination. Remember air raid drills in school during that time? Yeah, Walter Cronkite was the last of the true journalist who reported just the facts without bias. I would have loved to hear HIS thoughts on today's so-called media and anchors!!!!

Oh groan. I am leaving work now to meet some friends for dinner. This is a crock of s***. ck and I are the one person..... if you read ck's posts it is quite apparent that she is not male. But I am not going ot waster keystrokes trying to convince you dicks. I am ignoring the crap and posting per usual. I don't care who does or does not believe me to be credible. Regarding the intern: ck, I don't know that she is crazy--but I think she is socially challenged. She did not show up today since she is only required to be here M-F. I decided that beginning in in August to go on "Twitter" --I'd love to be tweeted, ...and while I cannot post about specific people--I'd love all of you to follow me --not the A** holes, only the folks with whom I correspond here. Anyone else on Facebook? I know QS is not--ck? neil?

I am a bored computer geek with no friends. I also fabricated the whole ordeal about the intern. I am also ck in disguise. I apologize for being such an imposter! I am such a lying dick.

I am also TBD. I am sorry to mislead everyone! TBD and I will leave now. Sorry for the lies.

Whoa! This board has more lurkers than I would have imagined. I'll be back on Monday with an update. ck, ignore the a** holes. I plan to continue posting with updates regarding my situation whether or not the little mice like it--QS: where are those mouse traps? I am meeting some friend for dinner at Olives at the W Union Sq 17th and Park So at 9:00. neil or anyone else in the city: feel free to meet us there! Look for the tall chinese dude!

Yes! CK has added and fabricated the identity of TBD and is posting as both. CK is fabricating desperate stalking stories and sexual harassment stories as TBD. Such made up bull. Get a life CK and TBD. You are crazy!

CK and TBD...what a crazy little dialogue in the last few hours! One little culprit posing as many! Whoever you are....TS? You really ought to take up a hobby. Perhaps stamp collecting. If you are going to post here, why not give us some real thoughts and join in a real way instead of taking potshots that are farfetched and ridiculous. What are you hoping to accomplish? If you want to be a jokester, tell us some "Why did the chicken cross the road?" jokes or something that really is laughable. Do you think we really landed on the moon? Tell us your thoughts on that. Join in, instead of slinging the crapola!

TBD...Have a lovely dinner! Too bad New Mexico is so far away or I would have joined you! I bet you have some wonderful friends and I have never experienced NYC. It sounds like you handled her pretty good. I would expect her now to back-peddle, just as she did claiming she misunderstood your intentions [what a crock!]. And she is now desperately trying to figure out a new angle to approach you from. Beware! I seriously doubt she has given up! She will now try to become what she thinks you want her to be. Since the slutty girl act didn't work, I would anticipate a more prim and proper demure coming at you, and I would still predict her trying to set up situations on you. She just doesn't sound like the type to give up easily!

Hey CK!..Are you doing anything exciting tonight? Me neither! LOL I'm cooking up my homemade spaghetti and looking forward to some good shows on tv. It was 99 degrees outside so I'm not doing any gardening until we get a cloudy cooler day, and there isn't any news of that coming any day soon. I typed in moon conspiracy on Google and got some interesting video showing a lighting truss dropping down as the astronaut stepped from the craft to say the "one small step" routine. Might be fake, but I don't know... A rocket scientist, I think the name was Robert Kaseling or something like that thinks it was all faked because Russia was ahead of us in the space race by putting the first satellite [ Sputnik ] in orbit. They tried putting the missiles in Cuba, and were being so aggressive that it makes sense we might have tried to spook them with this charade. And can you believe this? NASA oops "accidently" destroyed the original videotape! I would prefer to believe we landed on the moon, but the video just looks too fake to me. I'm afraid I have my doubts! And Kennedy, truly believe the mob took him out since he and Bobby were leaning heavily on them, there is some evidence Vice President Johnson was in on it, maybe even the CIA as Hoover hated Kennedy. I hope the truth surfaces. Three shots were definitely fired..we know that much.

ck - spent the last couple days just hanging with my kids splashing in the pool, going to the fudge store, fishing off the dock, etc. have to keep on my toes with the 2 year old. come down next weekend. we're going out on the catamaran with a calpyso band for a midnight ride. no little kids.

most chicks don't offer blow jobs without a motive, much less cry over not giving one. something's not right dude. quietstorm, did you work today? so you've never been to the big apple.

Hi Neil,.. Have never made it to the upper east coast. We did some shows with Doc Severinson in Cleveland. [ In case you don't remember him he was the band leader and trumpet player for Johnny Carson.] Also met Colonel Sanders the chicken king at the show. He was a tiny and frail little guy and very soft spoken. I've been to Indiana, Tennessee, Kentucky and that is the closest I've been to New York. We did have shows around there at times with clients such as the Boston Orchestra, but there were times I got so tired and burned out on traveling that I would often decide to stay home. I have a week off from work and am thoroughly enjoying the freedom. How about you?

very little freedom, but i'm enjoying the summer and having my children here. why did you give up your business?

We were becoming so well known and wanted, that we decided to expand to a 3rd complete sound system...cost about $150,000. We also decided to add stage lighting as well and incorporate. Everything was going great, fully booked all the time, bringing in an average of at least $40,000 to $60,000 a month. Life was good, and this was in the 70's and 80's when that kind of money went further. Then the recession hit. The entertainment industry was the first hit. Three months of being fully booked in advance dried up with major tours deciding to cancel for fear of poor ticket sells. Not knowing how long the recession would last, we decided to sell and get out while we could. It was an exciting life while it lasted. My ex was also the personal sound engineer for Andy Williams and he continued to work and travel with him for awhile.

TBD, I think that Truly is ck. Too bad you are being trashed and I agree that the chick has other motives besides being a nut job. Don't be such an moron!

what do we have here? tbd is an imposter , ck is tbd , ck is also truly, tantra #2 and L. ck lied about being stalked. anything else? Let's stop with the bullshit and return to our regularly scheduled programming. 1. ck, how are things in jersey? 2. tbd, how was dinner at olives? 3. Quiet storm, how is the temping going? 4. Jesus, where in Heaven's name have you been? 5. neil, how is the ocean today? GET BACK TO THE FUN FOLKS!

Wise Solomon!...Your name is well deserved! Jesus is now Jesthena and she checks in to say Hi every now and then. I am enjoying a few days off and life is good. How goes it for you?

Neil...I keep picturing in my mind a very grand old church with three sets of doors on the front and a tall beautiful spire tower, and there are steps leading up to the church, you are near it in some way. Does this sound familiar?

Where are you CK? Is everything okay?

quietstorm, no fancy churches with towers in loveladies. too bad about the business. you could start another with your son.

Hi QS! Everythin here is okay. The weather has been perfect! Just finished a feast of corn on the cob, fresh yams, broccoli and those petite steaks! Yummy! I sipping my coffee (my biggest passion is a good cup of coffee) and figured I'd check in. I saw on the news that your area is really being hit hard by the heat! Just got tickets to the Heroes of Woodstock Tour in Bethel, NY. We couldn't get arena tickets - all sold out - so my sister-in-law order the lawn section. My son is going (he likes Levon Helm a.k.a. The Band), but freaked when he heard we'd be in the direct sun all day! If you saw my kid, you'd understand why.... he's whiter than white.... the one poor kid who has to wear a T-shirt in the pool - and he loves the water. He's got these emerald green eyes that are sooo sensitive to light, he squints outside on a normal day! When he was real little at the start of each summer he'd ask "Do you think I'll get a tan this summer, Mommy?" Maybe for his birthday this year, I should get him a certificate for a "fake" spray tan? LOL Later, I'm going for a walk!

TRULY, YOU BE MY BITCH? I LIKE YOU TRULY. LET"S GET TOGETHER YOU SLEEZY WENCH.

You are nasty.

quietstorm, was i getting married in your vision?

QS: If you get a chance tonight, watch Huckabee on the new health plan. It is extremely informative about what is actually happening in other countries that have socialized medicine. This is scary stuff. So do you often have mental pictures or visions???? You think neil will be getting married since he's near a church? What astrological sign are you???? I'm a scorpio. Anybody else?

cancer.

Hi Ck and Neil, I am Aquarius, born January 24th. I must say that I really seem to fit that sign's traits to a "T". And don't let this scare you Neil, but all the deepest loves of my life have all been Cancers, including the guy that killed himself. Cancer men seem to be very passionate, caring, sensitive, and place high value on home life. Does that fit your traits Neil? The church vision is attached to you in some way but not marriage. Back in New York, do you live or work near a church that would fit this description? I don't know why exactly, but the church is like a landmark and I picture you near it quite frequently. Don't normally get pictures in my head but this one is persistent and seems to mean something, don't know what yet. Usually I just get intuitive feelings like everybody else, and every now and then that deja vu feeling. Do you ever get that? Some 5 or 6 years ago I was out at our state fair with a boyfriend. We were just walking around and spotted a new ride we had never seen before so we stopped in front of it to watch. They were like hang gliders where you lay on your stomach stretched straight out, and it goes around in a circle. After only about a minute of watching I started feeling a high sense of alarm and danger. I told my friend that if one of those rides falls off its coming right at us. Only 3 to 5 seconds after I told him that a ride fell off right in front of us and the 2 girls on board were badly hurt. Strange how people react at an accident scene. Without hesitation my boyfriend ran to them to help and I followed. I looked up at the crowd and everybody was frozen not doing anything to help. I knew where the police were so I snapped into action and started running for help. Meanwhile one girl couldn't breathe well so my friend was able to get her head in a position where she could breathe and supported her neck. Am I psychic? I don't like that word. I have normal intuitive feelings about people and situations like everyone else, and sometimes I'm right and sometimes I'm wrong, but more times than not I seem to be right.

QuietStorm: I'm not suprised that you are an Aquarius. Scary stuff about the ride! I seem to experience frequent deja vu - and about a year ago found either an article or saw a program with a "scientific" explanation of deja vu.... something about our brain processing what we are seeing so rapidly and with such great speed that our conscious mind interprets it has something we've experience before when in fact it really is just happening at that moment. I'm sure what I just said makes zero sense.... Lots of news coverage on the space walk hoax!!!! Original film footage lost or taped over. I was watching a clip on tv where the astronauts were walking on the moon's surface. If I remember correctly, the astronauts wore special "gravity" boots and stuff so they wouldn't "float" away... yet the in the clips I've seen, they walk through the surface which looks like beach or desert sand to me.... does the sand "float" away into the atmosphere??? No, it drops back down to the moon's surface. I'm sure that sand is much lighter than our astronauts in their big, clunky, gravity boots. Some recent polls show that a higher number of people doubt the moon walk today, than back in 1969. Especially the younger generation. I remember it rained "forever" after the moon landing... everyone here blamed it on landing on the moon. When did you start your "time" off?

Just thought I'd tell you all that I have invited Ellery (you may remember her from the other poll) to join our conversation here, she had posted a comment on the paula poll. And also, the person called "Jesus" was not me. And finally, to the one called "Wise Solomon" if you read the whole poll, I am the one formerly known as "Jesus Christ".

Also, I am Gemini

Hmmmm..... the sign of the twins? Do you follow astrology Jesthena? I do get along very well with Gemini men (though they are not my ideal mate sign). I don't know that many Gemini girls.

I knew the "Jesus" post WASN'T you....

Yes the sign of the twins. I don't really follow astrology, but alot of the people I know seem to be cancer.

I knew that you wouldn't think that that post was me, but you never know who else might.

Good Morning Everyone! Hope your day is off to a good start! I just got up 30 minutes ago with that slight panic of "Oh no, I forgot to put the trash out to the curb last night!" luckily I haven't missed them yet. It is cool and nice out at the moment, but we are in a heatwave so we are going into the high 90's later. My last day of work was on Wed., not scheduled back until the 27th. I will be surfing the web today looking for jobs and possibly submitting my resume.

TBD how was your evening with your friends? I just watched the footage of that captured soldier the taliban are holding. He must be scared to death and I feel so sorry for him and his family and friends. Hope to God we can find him and rescue him before it's too late. I'm still following the latest Jackson clan news. I am beginning to worry a little more about Michael's kids. Joe Jackson said Catherine beat the kids more than he did. At this point I think either Janet or Jermaine should raise them.

Hi Qs: I had a great dinner on Saturday evening but was incapacitated yesterday and this morning. I showed up at work at 10:30--which is highly unusual for me--I am an "8:00 on the dot" dude. I was diagnosed last week with an inguinal hernia. I figured that I'd have the eventual surgery, but I've been experiencing increased discomfort. I have to schedule a laparoscopic surgical procedure within the next month--only I am leaving in a week for my overseas trip so I am not sure how easy this will be. The recovery is a 2-3 days. The worst part is that I cannot work out or exercise which makes me more hyperactive and "ornery"...LOL! I am not sure what to make of the posts regarding ck and I are the same person. Are we ignoring them? I am not sure if the person responsible actually believes this or if they are trying to deflect the conversation elsewhere. Doesn't matter--I am not deterred and I will continue to post about my life--even the juicy parts--until such time one of the regulars informs me that I am pushing the envelope, so to speak. I am getting a twitter account in August some time so anyone who tweets can follow me. I cannot assure you that my life holds much interest! The intern is in another department doing research today. when I came in late, she was assigned another duty by our interim department head so hopefully I won't have to deal with her today. She did see me once and I quickly said "good morning" and stopped short of engaging her in conversation (not that I'm that good at engaging and sustaining conversation anyway). I made the mistake of confiding in one of my co-workers, a good friend, and she took it upon herself to alert the "higher ups" as well as other departmental personnel...so it's not much of a secret anymore. neil: In my attempt to be non-specific regarding what she offered me I may have inadvertently mislead you--she basically invited me over her place and when I said "no thanks" she began telling me that it could be one-sided if I was not interested in a physical reciprocal realtionship with her. Then she began to offer more detail. She never came up to me and said "I want to give you a bj" up front. I suppose the end result is the same. QS: My Chinese astrological sign is "year of the Rat" LOL! I really do not know my Western astrological sign by my Birthday is end of June.

Seriously folks, does anyone have any idea who is posting this garbage or are we ignoring it?

Hi TBD! You are also a Cancer! No wonder I like you and Neil so much! I'm always amazed the men I click with end up being Cancer. Don't let that scare you though...I am not the stalker type nor am I on the prowl. I am a horse in the Chinese zodiac. Glad the "problem" is busy doing research so she will hopefully be out of your hair for the day. It might be good that the higher ups know what is going on, that way she won't be believed if she starts to spread lies. I wouldn't worry about who is trying to start trouble, I will simply keep trying to convince them they would have more fun if they joined in, instead of pointless fabricating that is ridiculous and not believable. I have faith that sooner or later they will either join in or leave. I am going to ask my son about Facebook and see if he will help me get signed up, I'll let you know more as it happens. I hope you can get the operation before you go. It wouldn't be fun to feel bad the whole trip. Take good care of yourself and do what you need to do.

TBD I am still convinced that the person calling herself "Truly" and "L" is "ck". I do not think that you are ck.

"Cancer" is suppose to be a good love match for Scorpio, but I don't believe I every dated one.... I am unusally attracted to libra men, but that never works out... TBD: "Ouch" to the hernia! It really stinks to have the procedure just before your trip. As far as the fake posters.... it's just not worth the engery anymore - I know who I am and hopefully, my buds do too. "ck" ARE my real initials - and I know I've posted both my son's and my actual names... I'm assuming anon is short for anonymous - which reveals a lot without revealing anything at all. Hmmmm.... maybe my next beau should be a cancer. LOL

ck, thanks for your comments. I always posted by my first name and continue to do so on other sites. I admit that is is unlikely that I'll do that here, now. I have posted my work web page with my photo, stats, etc on other on-line communities for people who ere interested in knowing what I look like, what I do, what my work involves, etc. I don't think I'll be doing that here for a while. I will post my twitter once that is up and running--and I think that I can control who gains access. Well, I'm not actually certain about that--I'll have to research. My 'Facebook' and 'My Space' have too much personal info to post here--but I will try to find a way to get that contact info to any interested parties. As I have said--I am an open book; albeit a wildly odd one. I am not pro-national health plan the way it is being structured. The movie "Sicko" as mentioned by QS, fails to address the pitfalls and negative aspects (and there are many) of a nationalized or socialized system. All wealthy Canadians pay for their own health Insurance--and get the best care.....period. I am feeling uncharacteristically depressed today. I think it is a combination of being incapacitated with my hernia (not being able to work out) and having to work 70 hours this week before my trip...which I am dreading. I had caffeine too which was a big mistake. People keep coming by my work area and asking me if I'm "okay". The interim called me in his office to ask me about Anu. I told him what she had said and that I did not take her up on the offer. The weird thing is, I had the impression he didn't believe me. Very strange...I don't think it's my imagination. I am considering leaving early today to get some shut eye so I can handle 15 hour work days for the next four days.

Allow me to clarify my last comments: The interim believed that she had approached me with the proposition--that much I know...I just don't think he believed that I rejected it. His information was generated from rumor mill, I assume.

While I don't have Facebook, I've seen my son's. Yes - I peeked and got caught. LOL It's amazing what 15 yr. old boys say and call each other followed by JK. I ask my kid, how can you guys think it's okay to say those nasty things to each - like it's ok by adding "just kidding" after those horrible remarks. AND.... there is way, way, way too much personal information on there.... pictures, school, email address - what if your school sees the comments - you are advertising that you attend there - what if some pervert waits for you someday after school???? You just never know....

can i be ur first (cancer guy).

TBD: I think most Americans would like a cost reduction - not socialized or nationalized medince as the Obama Plan is offering. Many of the price increases can be directly linked back to the government impossing regulations thus increasing costs. If this bill passes, it will certainly mean inferior health care for everyone. Canadians are coming here to see doctors cause they can't see them in Canada. Brits as well. People are dying and losing limbs due to neglect. Most of the senators voting on the bill are not even planning on reading it - and it is currently not available to the general public. The only thing I've found out is that if you do not have your own private coverage at the time the bill is signed, you will be thrown into the gov. coverage and WILL NEVER EVER be able to purchase private coverage again. Also most companies will find it cheaper and easier to pay the tax rather than continue coverage for employees. So most employees will also lose coverage. Don't get down about the next 70 hours or the procedure - everything will work out for you... neil: No - you are too, too, too young. But thanks for asking... it's kinda of flattering.

i think truly and "L" are really TLC coming back for revenge! ck and tbd are definently two different people.

leave tlc alone. don't you have anything better to do?

QS: Any more visions??? I find this interesting.

Hi Everyone! This is Ellery, Long time. Thanks Jesthena for the link! Hi ck and Quiet Storm! There are so many new and strange people on this site. I don't have as much time for the boards these days because I started a new job, moved to another state, and returned recently from a Singapore vacation visiting my family. I was in Singapore for over a month and had very limited computer capabilities. Does anyone talk Idol here or does everyone chit chat about life? I am still recovering from Idol! I spent an hour almost to read this whole thread! I'm a little cloudy on what is going on. Why do you stay at this particular thread? I have twitter and currently twitter Danny, Adam, and my favorite actor, Orlando Bloom. I also twitter some friends who I met on blogs and friends from my old job. TBD when do you get your twitter account and what other sites did you blog on? I think I read you under your first name on EW because you sound very familiar. ck, I had no idea you had a teenager son. I thought you were in your late 20's! We have a lot in common TBD since I also worked for 3 months at a bio tech firm in a lab. I really hated it and am now working in budget and finance for a state department. .. I plan to go to grad school in the fall of 2010 so am saving money. I also lived in London for boarding school. Did you board in London too since you said you lived in UK for 3 years? I ask because I am also Asian and many Asians board in Europe! Jesthena! I really loved the name Jesus Christ, but Jesthena suits you! What state do you live in? Are you also USA? Quiet Storm I am a Pisces as my Birthday is in February 26. I am year of the OX in Chinese Astrology! Bye for now. I can only check in around every other day. My new job keeps me pretty busy, and I work 4 night a week at another job.

Hi Ellery! Nice to hear from you again! Are you happy with your new job? That can sometimes be stressfull..... QuietStorm: The Men Tell All is on. I do think you might be disappointed - Reid and Wes are not on. Gosh - most of the men are a few years younger than her. Not knowing all of the guys, it's difficult for me to understand why the guys didn't like Juan or Jake... Jake seemed really nice - and the audience loves him - they'd like to see him be the next Bachelor! Michael (the real young one) seems like a great guy also. Jason and Molly are on. Later.

ck, hi! I really like my new job because the pay is so much better and the stress much less. I am not employed in the field I studied, which is okay. I enjoy being involved in the business end. The new job has not stressed me at all. The physical move was tough because it meant meeting new people and getting to know a new area and entire state. I have met so many great friends from both of my jobs. I have a boyfriend now and he is great :) What is this show you and Quiet are talking about? Does anyone else join in or do most people here just post when they have a negative quip to make? Except for you, Quiet, Tbd, Jesthena and neil everyone else seems angry and bothered. They should all tweet to occupy their minds!

Ellery: There are about five of us regulars - YOU make it six - we just blog about whatever we feel like.... we'll get on a topic and go from there. I was talking about the Bachorlette tv show - QS has been following it all along - I just started. So tell us about the new boyfriend, where you met, what he looks like, does he know he's moving back to Singapore after you get married???? LOL - I am just playing with you - but if I remember that was part of your plan on the previous poll.... I'm not sure what the other bloggers' problem is - they are angry about something - what I don't know nor care. Oh well.... good to have you back - even if it's only part-time. Later. My eyes are starting to close. Good-night everyone!!!!

Hi Ellery and Ck! Welcome back Ellery! So good to hear from you again. What state did you move to and do you like it there so far? I am in New Mexico and I love it here. Ck and I are talking about The Bachelorette that airs on ABC at 7pm on Monday night. The final show is next week where she will decide between two men who she wants to pursue a relationship with. CK who do you think she will pick? I just can't tell, but if I'm forced to guess, she seems extra happy with Kipton. I have a feeling that Reid comes back,maybe to tell her he loves her. Next week should be very exciting. Too bad she didn't pick Jake the pilot. But I bet he will be the next Bachelor and he will make that a good show. I am always shocked at how devious and shameful the women behave on those shows. They usually don't show us women species in a good light. I'm watching the new Dating In The Dark and I am finding this show intriqueing. I like all 3 guys, but if I had my choice I find an extra attraction to Allister. I love the Brit accent and he has the Brit humor and I do find him handsome. Ck and Ellery, would you be gain to a first date in the dark? I think it is a good idea as it changes your sensory perceptions. I like this show. Did you notice a new show being advertised [unfortunately I didn't catch the name of the show] has picked up Mad World being sung by Adam Lambert!

Ellery do you remember Nie? She is Asian and she is currently living in Hong Kong. She is a really nice gal and she occasionally checks in with us. Where are you Nie? It's been awhile. TLC, you need to come back too. We miss you and I miss looking at your little bunny pictures. At least check in one more time and let us know you're okay!

Hi! I only caught the end of Dating in the Dark, but out of the 3 guys I also like Allister - yep those Brits - not always the most masculine men out there - but somehow they are really attractive! I was hoping he didn't bail on Melanie (?) after he saw her - she's really not bad looking - she needs slight makeover (hair) and someone to pick out her clothes. I felt bad for the guy (?) that Christina walked out on.... please... she wasn't all that - a bit chubby and wearing a "moo moo" type dress. Who wears a "moo moo" in 2009 to meet a guy? I'm not sure I'd watch this every week. Yeah - was that Reid in a upcoming clip holding a wedding band? I guess that is WHY he wasn't on last night's show. That'll be 3 guys that left and came back! Jake is cute. Gotta leave for work. Later.

Good Morning Everyone! Have a good day at work ck! TBD..how are you feeling today? I know you have been under stressful conditions and it may not get better for awhile, so get as much rest as you can. Did your interim give any advice or say what they would do about the situation? If this person didn't believe you then that says alot about what they would have done, as people usually believe everyone acts the way they do. You should feel proud you didn't take advantage of her and use her as many men would have. I respect you highly for that, plus your better judgement has probably saved you a nightmare not to mention a possible loss of your job.

i love the bachelorette but i havent watch it this season because i usually work on monday night now. i am going to tevo it from now on. i think i am looking pretty good now that all of these jerks are being cowards and writing rude stuff and accusing everyone of faking and all. i think they should get yelled at not me ck and quiet storm were so upset at me because i called tbd gay and bi because he admitted to sexing it up with guys and at least i didnt hide behind a fake name to make my point like tantra and truly and anon and "L". i think i am owed an apology since i apologized to tbd. i am even feeling bad that he is sick.i want to say too that it is mean to blame ck for saying things about tbd when she seems like me, she is not afraid to speak her mind under her own name. i dont think she would do it under a fake name. thats all i wanted to say and that i will start watching the bachelorette.

Good Morning Ashley...how are you? It's nice to hear from you and I'm glad you are looking at TBD through different eyes now. The more you get to know him the more you are going to realize he is a great guy and his sexuality is not what should define him. You did accuse him of bragging about it and seemed to suggest he should not talk about it. That is kind of like telling gay people they need to get back in the closet and hide. TBD doesn't brag about his sexuality but he doesn't hide or feel ashamed of it either and that is the way it should be. Everyday gay or bi people get beat up, ridiculed, or even killed for just trying to be true to who they know they are and many young promising lives have ended in suicide because of the torture they have endured from small minded ignorant cruel people. I pray you aren't one of those kinds of people that judges others on something that is so trivial compared to the value of the whole human being. I will always defend those who are attacked unfairly. I am confused on what you want me to apologize for so if you can elaborate a little more, I will certainly consider whether I have wronged you in some way. As of right now, I just don't see how I have. Please reply.

Ellery- glad you're back and we are on this particular poll because we were here, and never left becuase then new people don't come and ruin it here since this poll isn't open anymore. I live in north dakota.

ashley - I have never YELLED at you. I re-read all this dribble and the only time I mentioned you by name was when I told TBD I thought you were trying to start trouble by one of your comments. If you find THAT offense, then I think your feelings are destined to be hurt. You've got to be thick skinned to tough it out around here. Take it from me - I'm the all time punching bag here - I'm the douche bag, male Asian, computer nerd that fantasizes that I'm Farrah with multi-personalities.... hmmmm.... I don't recall anyone ever apologizing to me. Enough said about that.... Bachorlette is over next week. What other shows do you watch? I like So You Think You Can Dance. Got any ghost stories?????? Gotta a special guy?

QS- good morning, are you working today?

Nie: I miss you a lot. I watch Nightwish every other day or so, and think about you. Come on back!!!!

CK- I've only watched one episode of so you think you can dance this season and I think the guy I liked was Brandon or something like that. I can't quite remember.

This is weird - 3 of us being here at the same time. That hasn't happened in a while.

Yeah

So are you guys working today? Or doing something special?

Hi Jes!!! Yes, he IS very good. All of the top twenty are extremly good this year. It's a tough decision. This is my most favorite show of all - I am clueless as to whom will win. I like Evan's personality even though he might be the least versatile or stronger of the male dancers. Could he win? Well he's never been in the bottom 3 (I think the judges would have sent him home had he been there) - so I guess this is just another popularity contest. And even though he's my favorite, I don't think he should win. I guess you'll be packing for Canada soon.....

good morning everyone. like the rain ck?

CK- the plan is to leave on the 30th and I'm driving there so I'll get to my cousin's on the 1st. I don't like to drive at night so I'm stopping at hotels overnight on the way.

neil- good morning.

neil- good morning.

Oops sorry for the double comment, not sure how I did that.

Wow there are alot of people on at the same time right now, very unusual.

neil: Everyday in my office is like a rainy day!!! There are no windows and the walls are painted a grayish blue. YUK! How dismal is that? Gotta go - break's over. Later Jes, QS.

quietstorm, where are you? did you leave already

Have a great day everyone. Gotta go now :D

jes, have a good trip. no going over the falls in a barrel. i do suggest taking a boat ride on the misty maid.

jes - maid of the mist boat ride takes you up close to the falls. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuDaB-SqjOc

ashley, I believe your apology to be sincere and please consider it accepted. Another of my many deficits (yes, QS--there are more!) is that I do not self edit and I never seem to feel the need to do so. Has it cost me? Yes, of course. Do I care? no, I do not. Allow me to leave you with one of my favorite quotes: " Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"--Dr. Suess

ck, for the record, I apologize for my past transgressions in trying to make my point by calling you a douche bag. I despise the term. You're good people.

QS, My job is safe. The interim head could not fire me even if I had relations with her. She is an adult and is not a paid employee and while she is being mentored by me, I am not her direct superior. I think his concern is losing the Uni affiliation should this woman complain...though I am not sure what she would complain about. Additionally, I am responsible for her evaluation and he does not want me to downgrade her performance based on any "personal issues" (that was how he put it), again...he is concerned with maintaining the Uni connection only. I assured him that she was smart, capable and very inquisitive; however, I plan to give her a low grade on her eval for the category of "professional behavior". If he thinks that I received sexual favors from her, it is really none of his business...the fact that I feel he believes this is based on what he has heard in the way of unsubstantiated rumor. It has been a tough start to the week: our former Dept head's departure, the workload and extra hours required of me this week and the health issues. I had to leave early yesterday due mostly to physical exhaustion and fatigue...I called my doctor because the pain was worsening...he told me that abdominal hernias are generally not very painful, only in severe cases. He had me come in late afternoon and upon examination informed me that he felt another "mass" and that I needed an abdominal ultra sound TODAY. So, now I have to leave work again for a couple of hours which means that I'll be working tonight until midnight. I told him canceling this trip overseas was not an option. It is the single most important business conference I'll be doing for the company this year. My attendance is mandatory. I am not worried about the mass, I only desire to get back to working out so I can maintain my mental sanity. Right now I cannot drive or exercise.

tbd i hope everything is okay and that its not cancer or something worse. ck i thought that you were one of the people who were mad when i told tbd that he was maybe more gay than bi and it was only my opinion. he admited that he slept with guys so it is not like it came out of nowhere. besides he forgave me. i thought you were one of the angry ones that is why i accused you this morning. so i apologize to you to then.

Hi Everyone- Wow... a lot to read here but I just read a few lines up. I've noticed that I'm still being attacked ( somewhat ) but I want to thank neil for sticking up for me. I missed you neil and and you are still a cutie. QS- thanks for still thinking about me and asking me to come back. I guess we both had esp towards one another as I thought about coming in here today. I've been really busy STILL trying to move in with my sister. I'm tired of it and NOT enjoying the summer one bit. Now my husband has been having a problem having blood in his urine and it's scarying me to death thinking the worse. Right now I'm just under a lot stress and trying to keep my cool about the whole situation. Can't stay here long since there is so much to do but I also wanted to say that if there are anymore negative people in here that I'm just going to make them invisible in my eyes. TBD- Seems like you are a nice guy so I hope we can become friends too as you have done with everyone else in here. Have a great day everyone and I really MISSED you all.

Hi everyone... I had to make a quick trip into town to buy a few grocery items, but I should be home for the rest of the day. The heat wave has subsided and it's cooler today and breezy. We got some rain and lightning yesterday evening. So Neil, what do you like to do on rainy days? TBD...I am starting to worry about you! Don't ignore that mass! You won't be any good to anyone if you have something seriously wrong with you...at least find out what you're dealing with. OKAY? Do it cause you know I'm right!

TLC: Can't tell you how much I missed those cute little bunnies!!!!!! Sorry the move is still an ongoing project. Your husband has gone to the doctor, hasn't he????? All I can say it, anyone who's sick - go immediately for treatment before this health bill gets signed. Seriously! I need MRI's every 3-6 months now and will probably not be able to get them anymore if this goes through. ashley and TBD: I almost fell off my chair.... not one but TWO apologies back to back!! Hey, I like that Dr. Seuss quote.

TLC..I wish you could have seen the big smile on my face when I saw your bunny picture pop up! It feels so good to hear from you again! Just like it feels when you get an unexpected phone call from a long lost friend! I hope you're back for good. Sorry to hear about your husband. Let us know what you find out. Be good to yourself and take a moment whenever you can to do something for YOU, because I get the feeling you are always "doing" for someone else. You need to do that or you will get completely fatigued, depleted, and depressed. OKAY?! We are your friends, and we want nothing but the best for you! TAKE CARE!!

Some of you may have already seen this video of a kid all drugged up from a dentist visit, but if you haven't, you have got to check it out. It is hilarious! Just go to Google and type in: Drugged up kid in car

ck i do have a ghost story. when iw as around 12 and i would go over my grandmothers we always heard this weird noise in the basement like somone was moving stuff around or walking in heavy shoes, and my grandmother used to say that it was my grandfather who died like 4 years or more before. so it kept happening, then one day when we visited my mom and i heard whistling in the basement and my mom was going to call the police and my grandmother said no, that's just frank. and my mom started crying and later she told me that he used to whistle eerie canal and that is the song that she said was the whistle!she heard that day. i am getting goosebumps from my own story. !

Ash: That is a creepy ghost story. I wasn't familiar with that song, so I googled it. Thanks for sharing! QS: I saw that video on the news awhile back. I've got mixed feelings on whether or not his father should have posted it....

Okay.... I know this is mean, but has anybody heard Michael Jackson jokes since he's been dead? You know... they always have those stupid jokes after someone dies. I did hear one that was kinda, sorta funny.

Okay ck...share! I haven't heard any of the jokes yet.

QS & ck- Thank you for the big welcome back!!! It surely has put a big smile on my face as well and made me feel all tingly inside...LOL. ck- no my husband hasn't gone to the doctor yet but I did make a appt. on Aug.25. I hated the wait but our primary doctor will be on vacation until that time. They told me to take him to emergency but he refuses to go there. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed that everything will be okay until he goes on his scheduled day. QS- Yeah you are pretty much on the nose about me doing more for others then myself but that's just how I'am. Family and close friends always came first to me. But I agree with you that I need to take care of me too. I'm on antidepression pills for years now and don't know what I would do without them. ashley- That also gave me the goosebumps just thinking about something like that happening to me from one of my loved ones that has passed. I really don't know how I would react to it if I seen or heard one of them. As sensitive as I'am I would probably start crying because I miss them so much. Well I just finished washing my recliner and love seat so thought I would take a breathier for a bit. Can't wait to hear the jokes ck.

QS- Oh yeah- I googled the drugged up kid in car and seen the video and thought it was funny. But the screaming part was irriatating..lol.

TLC!! Welcome back!! Thats really too bad about your husband and he should go to the doctor. We all missed you :D thanks for the suggestion and advice neil, I will check that out :)

TLC..I just went to Google and typed in: Blood in urine. There is a wealth of information on it, there is a possibility it might not be serious so that's the good news, but of course he won't know till he gets it checked out. None the less, you should check out that site. It might help while you wait for the appointment.

If I post MJ jokes, I will get a lot of hate mail...... but here are a few links circulating around the office anyway...... http://www.celebjihad.com/celeb-jihad/dead-michael-jackson-jokes...... http://www.yankeesdaily.com/?p=7573....... http://www.funnyandjokes.com/top-michael-jackson-jokes.html..... Medical reports now say that Michael Jackson apparently died of food posioning after eating eight year old sausage.

QS- Thanks for the information as I already looked it up and it does say some good and bad in it. Hopefully it will all be okay. The good news is that he hasn't had the problem all weekend. Jethena- I had to look all the way up on this forum to see who you were and you are or were Jesus Christ, right? Why the name change? It's nice hearing from you again.

ck- I went and read some of the jokes of MJ and I couldn't believe what people said about him. I have always liked him and felt sorry for him so to me it wasn't funny but sad. I don't blame you for not posting it in here cause yes there would be a lot of hate mail as you mentioned.

TLC- yes I was formerly known as Jesus Christ and if you read up in the thread, I didn't feel the name suited me anymore, so I changed it to Athena, and then TBD said that he had prefered my name as Jesus, but he would meet me in the middle by calling me Jesthena and a loved th name, I thought it was so creative. Glad to hear from yu too. So what made you decide to come back?

Jesthena- It's a good name for you and I didn't mind Jesus Christ as so many other people thought that it wasn't fitting to use. I never really meant of staying out of here just thought I needed a break under the circumstances. Plus it's a busy summer for me right now with all the moving and I was hardly ever on my computer. I missed everyone so decided today that I would join in again. It feels good to be back. I haven't heard back from neil... I hope everything is alright with him.

tlc, no bikini today, it's raining. how are you cutie?

Ck..the one MJ joke you posted was definitely the best. I walked into my office where my son was on his computer and told him that joke with a very serious face and he busted up laughing, I thought it was funny too. The others get old real quick,and yes they are all sick. I hope the Jackson family never hears of any of those. It is very sick humor.

My buddy neil...How have you been sweetie??? No bikini today- cool and gloomy. If you read my posts from earlier today it's been a pretty crummy summer. Not much else going on.