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What's Boeing's future in Washington state? (Poll Closed)

Boeing has no intention of leaving Washington state and merely is engaging in scare tactics. 16% (48 votes)

The company will keep 787 production (both lines) here only if lawmakers make major changes. 19% (58 votes)

The company begins moving out of Washington by putting a second 787 line elsewhere. 39% (119 votes)

Boeing will be out of Washington entirely by 2020. 26% (81 votes)

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Robert Crosby
2009-04-23 08:48:34 ET

In 1995, in an Economics class at T.E.S.C in Olympia, a group in class was looking at the impact of out sourcing jobs and parts by the Boeing Co. They came to the conclusion the within 10 – 15 years the Boeing Co. would no longer be producing aircraft in the State of Washington. Is it that no one else in Olympia or Snohomish county was willing to look at the data in the same way until today or were they just luck?
We currently have a budget crisis in Washington, yet the Boeing Co. was given a 3 billion tax break to stay here. We should have charged them the taxes the stock holders of Boeing rightly deserved and used the money to build an sustainable economic base that wouldn’t just “fly” away when the profit margin wasn’t as great as it could be.

Robert Crosby
2009-04-23 08:51:44 ET

In 1995, in an Economics class at T.E.S.C in Olympia, a group in class was looking at the impact of out sourcing jobs and parts by the Boeing Co. They came to the conclusion that within 10 – 15 years the Boeing Co. would no longer be producing aircraft in the State of Washington. Is it that no one else in Olympia or Snohomish county was willing to look at the data in the same way until today or were they just lucky?
We currently have a budget crisis in Washington, yet the Boeing Co. was given a 3 billion tax break to stay here. We should have charged them the taxes the stock holders of Boeing rightly deserved and used the money to build an sustainable economic base that wouldn’t just “fly” away when the profit margin wasn’t as great as it could be.

Rod R Mourant
2009-04-23 15:05:31 ET

Only reducing Boeing's cost of doing business in Washington State by reforming U.I. and Workers Comp AND making Washington a Right-To-Work state will keep Boeing here. Otherwise, they're gone by 2020, and justifiably so.

Michael A Burnett
2009-04-23 16:44:40 ET

In 1995 there was a meeting involving every Booeing employee. The head office was moved to Chicago. In 1997 assigned work was being removed from our hands (A) in how the drawings were written. In 2000 (B) subcontacting was getting placed into action.
A) Instead of testing EVERY lot received, reveiw the suppliers test report.
B) Due to the work slow down, every engineering employee had to train an individual in India inorder to be eligble for 6 months of pay after layoff.
Due to my engineering & Q/A assingnments with the 3 aircraft sold to forgien governments (Saudi Arabia, United Arab Immerents, & Japan) I could see that subcontracting was becoming a huge factor in the future. Another factor was the comparison of what aircraft business in the south were paying as compared to +$20/hr paid machinists in less than 10 years.
There was unbeilvible reaction when Boeing made first statements concerning where the 787 was being made, how the final production was completed, & what it was made of. If the military ever discovers that aircraft are going from commercial, engineering "modification" of records, to military interior installed all........will break out.

Sherie S
2009-04-23 20:16:42 ET

When are the Boeing machinists ever going to figure this out? Take a look at their Detroit brethern! Get rid of the union! A job is better than no job!

Phillip
2009-04-23 23:49:07 ET

Was told by a Boeing suit that they already process a Eviromental Impact Statement to expand Everett Plant. As this is a 5-15 years process they are likely to set up a second line in Everett. Or when Obama sells the tanker replacement overseas boeing will have room shortly after for the second line.

Gretchen Bonadore
2009-04-24 05:08:47 ET

Boeing is holding this state as hostage and quite frankly I'm tired of it. They pulled this same thing when Gary Locke was Govenor and he sold the state down the drain. The people of eastern Washington could care less about Boeing getting improved roads around the Everett plant or a dock being built for the "outsource'" parts that are received and the list goes on and on. Boeing says jump and the govenor and legislature says "how high"!! I've worked at Boeing before but it certainly wasn't the political game that it is now. Their problem with the 787 being so far behind is their choice of outsorcing the majority of the work. It's not the workers at the Everett plant or the machinist. Boeing was two years behind long before the strike occurred last fall. I'm not a big fan of unions, but they are so very wrong in blaming the machinists and they know it!! It's been their poor choices that have created this mess, and now they think they can solve the problem by rolling over on Washington State. They are beginning to remind me of a spoiled child......."if you won't play the game like I want to play, then I'm going to play with someone else". Do people realize how much the CEO and others really make in a year?? Do your homework and then throw stones at the workers.......I dare you. It's not the workers that are making all the money, that's for sure.

Jim DeBlasio
2009-04-24 22:33:27 ET

Boeing should get no more free givaways from the state, they've already conned and bullied us out of Billions. Why not eliminate all exemptions and differential rates from the B&O tax? This would raise far more money that is needed to balance the budget, money that could be used to put the tax cuts where they would do the most good, homeowner's property and the regressive sales tax. Let Boeing howl, when and if they leave, we will regret all the generosity we have shown them. The same goes for the rest of the big money out of state special interests.


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