I think the main problem with the italian restaurant analogy, is that at that italian restaurant the owners don't invite mob bosses to do their business there, and if they try to brush them off, all hell breaks loose.
In TPB case, not only do you find that they do have a choice as to knowingly aid people in sharing and obtaining legal or "illegal" material, but also (read the message that was posted yesterday on the page) are inciting people to seed.
Even if they didn't know that people are using their service to share "illegal" material, they should've known after the trial and therefore not tell people to share.
Hump - 15 years ago
Dev: That is the classic BULL. 99.9% of the torrents in PB are for illegal content. But the other 0.1% is for legal so that makes it ok?
drg40 - 15 years ago
When Disney thinks they can charge $50 for a film in Spain - and the usual Disney crud at that - I hope they and their whole Company go to financial ruin in the same way that EuroDisney and Porta Ventura have gone.
It seems to me that when an "actress" can earn more for one film than the US President does in a lifetime of service then there need to be some changes made.
Dev - 15 years ago
No Biff... Your wrong.
TPB has a legit purpose, there are legit torrents out there. Say, free software that developers cant afford to host. Stuff like that.
Biff - 15 years ago
No Scott... your analogy is wrong. A restaurant has a legitimate purpose -- to feed customers. The Pirate Bay has a single purpose -- link up two parties for an illegal activity. No, the analogy should be of a pimp. That's the role they perform and they make money doing it.
Honestly, In the end, it probably doesn't matter. The companies suing are wasting more and more money where it could be better used.
Additionaly, paying consumer costs rise due to their wasteful legal battles when "In the end, it probably doesn't matter", others will rise and continue.
The only (stupid) way to "kind of" stop the sharing, is to take away any and all forms/types/methods of copy/deuplication/reproduction functionality ever created, making it 100% illegal, with death as a punishment for copying. At least if the suing companies or persons have the legal right to kill anyone copying there will be less of it... not stopped entirely, but less.
Scott - 15 years ago
Convicting the Pirate Bay is like convicting the owners of the awesome Italian restaurant where the mob bosses hang out. Sure illegal things can be facilitated inside by a minority of the customers, but that isn't the fault of the restaurateur.
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I think the main problem with the italian restaurant analogy, is that at that italian restaurant the owners don't invite mob bosses to do their business there, and if they try to brush them off, all hell breaks loose.
In TPB case, not only do you find that they do have a choice as to knowingly aid people in sharing and obtaining legal or "illegal" material, but also (read the message that was posted yesterday on the page) are inciting people to seed.
Even if they didn't know that people are using their service to share "illegal" material, they should've known after the trial and therefore not tell people to share.
Dev: That is the classic BULL. 99.9% of the torrents in PB are for illegal content. But the other 0.1% is for legal so that makes it ok?
When Disney thinks they can charge $50 for a film in Spain - and the usual Disney crud at that - I hope they and their whole Company go to financial ruin in the same way that EuroDisney and Porta Ventura have gone.
It seems to me that when an "actress" can earn more for one film than the US President does in a lifetime of service then there need to be some changes made.
No Biff... Your wrong.
TPB has a legit purpose, there are legit torrents out there. Say, free software that developers cant afford to host. Stuff like that.
No Scott... your analogy is wrong. A restaurant has a legitimate purpose -- to feed customers. The Pirate Bay has a single purpose -- link up two parties for an illegal activity. No, the analogy should be of a pimp. That's the role they perform and they make money doing it.
Honestly, In the end, it probably doesn't matter. The companies suing are wasting more and more money where it could be better used.
Additionaly, paying consumer costs rise due to their wasteful legal battles when "In the end, it probably doesn't matter", others will rise and continue.
The only (stupid) way to "kind of" stop the sharing, is to take away any and all forms/types/methods of copy/deuplication/reproduction functionality ever created, making it 100% illegal, with death as a punishment for copying. At least if the suing companies or persons have the legal right to kill anyone copying there will be less of it... not stopped entirely, but less.
Convicting the Pirate Bay is like convicting the owners of the awesome Italian restaurant where the mob bosses hang out. Sure illegal things can be facilitated inside by a minority of the customers, but that isn't the fault of the restaurateur.